Re: Test Results - CONFUSED, PLEASE HELP!!!!

[Guest guest]

You bet ya, this type of stuff can happen especially around

pregnancy and just after. You have auto-immune thyroid disease and

autoantibodies are being produced that attack parts of the thyroid.

Some of these mimmick TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) from the

pituitary and they make the thyroid overfunction because TSH tells

the thyroid to make hormone. So, these antibodies are both damaging

the thyroid over time and over stimulating it. The reason for the up

and down has to do with the natural waxing and waning of autoimmune

function. Pregnancy plays hovac with it because of hormone

fluctuations. In pregnancy, thyroid demands really go up and in

normal people their thryoids would increase production. But, in a

person with autoimmune thyroid disease, this increase in function

also stimulates the increase in autoantibody production. Something

in the production chain in the thryoid for making hormone is the

trigger and the more activity in the thyroid the more it triggers

autoantibody production. Hormones also play a role in autoimmune

activity. if estorgen rises, then autoimmune antibody production

tends to increase. Both estrogen and progesterone rise significantly

in pregnancy and there are many hormone fluctuations after pregnancy

which can cause problems.

It is very common for women to develope thyroid disease in pregnancy

or just after. It is thought that the high hormone levels trigger

it. It also tends to have a genetic predisposition involved.

Your doctor might be right that things will settle down in a while.

He may also be wrong. There is no way to know. It might be a good

idea to just wait and see if you are not suffering too bad.

But, you should know that treating autoimmune thyroid disease can

actually greeatly reduce autoantibodies and destruction to the

thryoid. The treament has to contain doses of thryoid replacement

high enough to suppress your own thyroid function. Treatment at high

enough doses can actually cure thyroid disease in about 11% of

thyroid patients when donoe for about 6 to 8 years (from Werner and

Ingbar's " The Thyroid " ). This is because it lowers activity in the

thyroid and thus loweres the stimulation of antibody production.

Also, treatment calms the thyroid and is very likely to get rid of

the up and down thyroid activity that is such a stress on the body.

Over time the suppression of your thyroid can cause the autoantibody

production to cease and it is possible to be cured.

The healthy human thyroid makes about 4-1/2 to 5 grains of Armour

equivelent a day or about 333 to 370 mcg of Synthroid equivelent.

Any thyroid replacement that is done to reduce anuto-antibodies

should be up there approaching full replacement. If it is low, like

is so commonly done today, auto-antibodies will still be being made

because the thyroid will still be active making hormone to make up

the difference between what you are taking and what your body needs.

So, if you are really lucky and can find a doctor that is educated

about this and has actually read up on the thyroid, you can be put

on supressive levels thyroid hormone and it would probably help you

and level things out and make your life much better. It might also

cure you over time. You can try to find a doctor that specializes in

thryoid problems and pregnancy and hope that he has read the

literature and research done on this. Otherwise, you can expect that

eventually your thyroid will become too damaged and you will have to

go on replacement. It may take many years or go quickly. You may

also get lucky like your doctor hopes and get better.

My opinion is that you would fare much better on Armour than on

synthroid if you decide to try therapy. Many people with auto-immune

thyroid disease have problems converting the T4 only hormone in

Synthroid to the other thyroid hormones needed and produced by the

healthy thyroid.

To read about Armour and why it is better than Synthroid:

http://personal.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/

Tish

[Guest guest]

You bet ya, this type of stuff can happen especially around

pregnancy and just after. You have auto-immune thyroid disease and

autoantibodies are being produced that attack parts of the thyroid.

Some of these mimmick TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) from the

pituitary and they make the thyroid overfunction because TSH tells

the thyroid to make hormone. So, these antibodies are both damaging

the thyroid over time and over stimulating it. The reason for the up

and down has to do with the natural waxing and waning of autoimmune

function. Pregnancy plays hovac with it because of hormone

fluctuations. In pregnancy, thyroid demands really go up and in

normal people their thryoids would increase production. But, in a

person with autoimmune thyroid disease, this increase in function

also stimulates the increase in autoantibody production. Something

in the production chain in the thryoid for making hormone is the

trigger and the more activity in the thyroid the more it triggers

autoantibody production. Hormones also play a role in autoimmune

activity. if estorgen rises, then autoimmune antibody production

tends to increase. Both estrogen and progesterone rise significantly

in pregnancy and there are many hormone fluctuations after pregnancy

which can cause problems.

It is very common for women to develope thyroid disease in pregnancy

or just after. It is thought that the high hormone levels trigger

it. It also tends to have a genetic predisposition involved.

Your doctor might be right that things will settle down in a while.

He may also be wrong. There is no way to know. It might be a good

idea to just wait and see if you are not suffering too bad.

But, you should know that treating autoimmune thyroid disease can

actually greeatly reduce autoantibodies and destruction to the

thryoid. The treament has to contain doses of thryoid replacement

high enough to suppress your own thyroid function. Treatment at high

enough doses can actually cure thyroid disease in about 11% of

thyroid patients when donoe for about 6 to 8 years (from Werner and

Ingbar's " The Thyroid " ). This is because it lowers activity in the

thyroid and thus loweres the stimulation of antibody production.

Also, treatment calms the thyroid and is very likely to get rid of

the up and down thyroid activity that is such a stress on the body.

Over time the suppression of your thyroid can cause the autoantibody

production to cease and it is possible to be cured.

The healthy human thyroid makes about 4-1/2 to 5 grains of Armour

equivelent a day or about 333 to 370 mcg of Synthroid equivelent.

Any thyroid replacement that is done to reduce anuto-antibodies

should be up there approaching full replacement. If it is low, like

is so commonly done today, auto-antibodies will still be being made

because the thyroid will still be active making hormone to make up

the difference between what you are taking and what your body needs.

So, if you are really lucky and can find a doctor that is educated

about this and has actually read up on the thyroid, you can be put

on supressive levels thyroid hormone and it would probably help you

and level things out and make your life much better. It might also

cure you over time. You can try to find a doctor that specializes in

thryoid problems and pregnancy and hope that he has read the

literature and research done on this. Otherwise, you can expect that

eventually your thyroid will become too damaged and you will have to

go on replacement. It may take many years or go quickly. You may

also get lucky like your doctor hopes and get better.

My opinion is that you would fare much better on Armour than on

synthroid if you decide to try therapy. Many people with auto-immune

thyroid disease have problems converting the T4 only hormone in

Synthroid to the other thyroid hormones needed and produced by the

healthy thyroid.

To read about Armour and why it is better than Synthroid:

http://personal.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/

Tish

[Guest guest]

You bet ya, this type of stuff can happen especially around

pregnancy and just after. You have auto-immune thyroid disease and

autoantibodies are being produced that attack parts of the thyroid.

Some of these mimmick TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) from the

pituitary and they make the thyroid overfunction because TSH tells

the thyroid to make hormone. So, these antibodies are both damaging

the thyroid over time and over stimulating it. The reason for the up

and down has to do with the natural waxing and waning of autoimmune

function. Pregnancy plays hovac with it because of hormone

fluctuations. In pregnancy, thyroid demands really go up and in

normal people their thryoids would increase production. But, in a

person with autoimmune thyroid disease, this increase in function

also stimulates the increase in autoantibody production. Something

in the production chain in the thryoid for making hormone is the

trigger and the more activity in the thyroid the more it triggers

autoantibody production. Hormones also play a role in autoimmune

activity. if estorgen rises, then autoimmune antibody production

tends to increase. Both estrogen and progesterone rise significantly

in pregnancy and there are many hormone fluctuations after pregnancy

which can cause problems.

It is very common for women to develope thyroid disease in pregnancy

or just after. It is thought that the high hormone levels trigger

it. It also tends to have a genetic predisposition involved.

Your doctor might be right that things will settle down in a while.

He may also be wrong. There is no way to know. It might be a good

idea to just wait and see if you are not suffering too bad.

But, you should know that treating autoimmune thyroid disease can

actually greeatly reduce autoantibodies and destruction to the

thryoid. The treament has to contain doses of thryoid replacement

high enough to suppress your own thyroid function. Treatment at high

enough doses can actually cure thyroid disease in about 11% of

thyroid patients when donoe for about 6 to 8 years (from Werner and

Ingbar's " The Thyroid " ). This is because it lowers activity in the

thyroid and thus loweres the stimulation of antibody production.

Also, treatment calms the thyroid and is very likely to get rid of

the up and down thyroid activity that is such a stress on the body.

Over time the suppression of your thyroid can cause the autoantibody

production to cease and it is possible to be cured.

The healthy human thyroid makes about 4-1/2 to 5 grains of Armour

equivelent a day or about 333 to 370 mcg of Synthroid equivelent.

Any thyroid replacement that is done to reduce anuto-antibodies

should be up there approaching full replacement. If it is low, like

is so commonly done today, auto-antibodies will still be being made

because the thyroid will still be active making hormone to make up

the difference between what you are taking and what your body needs.

So, if you are really lucky and can find a doctor that is educated

about this and has actually read up on the thyroid, you can be put

on supressive levels thyroid hormone and it would probably help you

and level things out and make your life much better. It might also

cure you over time. You can try to find a doctor that specializes in

thryoid problems and pregnancy and hope that he has read the

literature and research done on this. Otherwise, you can expect that

eventually your thyroid will become too damaged and you will have to

go on replacement. It may take many years or go quickly. You may

also get lucky like your doctor hopes and get better.

My opinion is that you would fare much better on Armour than on

synthroid if you decide to try therapy. Many people with auto-immune

thyroid disease have problems converting the T4 only hormone in

Synthroid to the other thyroid hormones needed and produced by the

healthy thyroid.

To read about Armour and why it is better than Synthroid:

http://personal.bellsouth.net/w/u/wurmstei/

Tish

[Guest guest]

I'm having an extreme problem seeing why this doctor is not seeing

antithyroid antibodies of both types as a big problem. It is obvious from

the way everything has been bouncing around, on and off, and especially

during and after your pregnancies, that you have Hashimoto's Disease. Those

two listed there are thyroid antibodies! And they are starting to climb

right on up there. You're probably have hyper and hypo swings back and

forth. Get a doctor who knows more about all of this, or, if he's

trainable, present a lot of info to him. The one on August 9th shows that

you are in extreme trouble with your thyroid, as you are very very hypo.

The antibodies are working on your thyroid to destroy it, and you need

thyroid hormone now, to at least try to hold them back and to treat your

symptoms.

Test Results - CONFUSED, PLEASE

HELP!!!!

>

> Hi! I posted here before, but I didn't have a copy of my results.

> So now I finally got a copy of them and would like some input.

>

> June 25, 2004

>

> TSH 0.03

>

> July 6, 2004

>

> FT4 1.32

> Thy Micro AB 204

> (not sure what this stands for, but it's one of the anti-body tests)

>

> Thyroglobul AB 326

>

> August 9, 2004

>

> TSH 91.61

> FT4 0.38

>

> I just had a baby in April and my doctor seems to think this will

> just go away like it did before. I had twins in May of last year

> and I had hyper issues during the inital part of my pregnancy. The

> test results became " normal " after a few months so they didn't treat

> me. A few weeks after I delivered my son in April I noticed the

> same symptoms (only worse this time). Then my thryroid did a 180.

> Does anyone know how this could happen in six weeks? I'm confused.

>

> Thanks,

>

>