Re: Topper you talked of sweating

[Guest guest]

I'm not familiar with Armour being measured in ml.. It's usually in grains... 60 mg tablet weight is 1 grain. The Generic that I take is 65 mg tablet weight to a grain. Both contain the same amount of T4 and T3...

You might want to consider options for the Prevacid. The thyroid being out of whack often throws off digestion. Using Prevacid to reduce acid production and take the control away from the body is going to be worse in the long run.... I had a bleeding ulcer.. gerd for years and even spent two years where all my food had to be run through a blender.. that was in the early 80's. I carried around liquid antacids, cause they worked faster. As the years passed I learned better ways of eating to be able to get away from the antacids and all the extra salt and aluminum in them. I took Prevacid for a while too... Helping your body to control acid production on it's own. Stopping and starting when it should is much better than just sucking up acid with an antacid, Prevacid isn't much better. With stomach acids at inadequate levels at meal time digestion is not complete, leading to poor absorption of both food/nutrients and medications....

The other stuff, I've never been on any of that... we do know that depression and allergies are also symptoms of thyroid levels being off.. both hyper and hypo.

Not sweating, but hot.... that can be a bunch of different things.... The thing to realize is sweating is our body's natural air conditioner, it's also a way for our bodies to cleanse themselves of toxins. The first, most simple things to look at are what types of things are in contact with your skin and fluid levels in your body. Along with fluid levels, the potassium and salt balance.

Things on your skin can be soaps, lotions, deodorants, perfumes, powders and the fabrics that your clothing are made from and what they are treated with, even the soaps and fabric softeners that you use. I had a very bad reaction to new work uniforms.. I later found out that they are treated with Formaldehyde (the stuff that they use to preserve dead things) and it was my body reacting to the chemical. I'd have to wash them a half dozen times before I could wear them.

Next time you have some quiet time.. ponder on what things in your routine might be cause and effect for some of the things that you are still dealing with. Share them here... let other eyes and minds ponder what you've come up with.. it's amazing what links you find when others look over the info as well.

No one is judging... so don't feel as though you're being called on to justify.. we are just sharing experiences and viewpoints to help each other to feel better.

Two of the most profound things that I ever did for myself were suggested by other folks that listened to my ponderings... multi-dosing my thyroid to include a dose as soon as I wake and one as I crawled into bed at night... and to dig further into lymphedema.... One was two years ago.. the other in the last month... we learn new things every day here by being brave enough to share...

On that note... you are showing a body temp that is a bit low... how is your pulse?

What was your TSH? The actual value and the lab's range and did they check the Frees?... (sorry if you've already posted them... I have trouble keeping everyone straight)

If you were just told the TSH was low, and not given a value.. it's possible that it was 'in normal range' and the doc determined it to be 'low' without really understanding how to read TSH values. The lab ranges are important to let us know how the lab is running the tests, their points of reference and if they are using current guidelines.

How long were you on the dose of Armour that made you 'hyper'?

Keep in mind that some of the symptoms of hyper are also on the list of symptoms for adrenal fatigue... so there is some figuring to do to determine just what is going on.

It take patience.. but the end result is so very worth it.

It would be so much easier if we were all alike and could just print of a 'recipe' list of things to put in our pill boxes, but it just doesn't work that way.... so we have to work together and combine all our powers of observation and 'in the trenches' experience to figure stuff out sometimes.

Topper ()

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:26:02 -0400 writes:

I have low temp ... 96-97 and I seem to overheat easily. I was going to a gym ... and I "overheated" I don't sweat ... my face gets red ... and I don't cool down well. I had blood work done andwas TSH low and I was showing hyper symptoms. So I cut my dosage to 150ml of Amour ... down from 165ml. Here is a list of my medications. I only take the Clonazepam once a day. Ihave been diagnosed with PSTD and DD and of course depression. I was on Prozac but got sick of living in a stupor ... so stopped. Also stopped taking Ibprophen when my liver enzymes were high. Went through all the tests for hepetitis and mono ... nothing there.

Armour

150ml

once morning

Clonazepam

0.5mg

as needed up to 4 times per day

Clonidine

0.1mg

once nightly

Wellbutrin

150mg

once daily

Zyrtec

10mg

Spring and Fall once per day

Ambien

10mg

up to two nightly (usually one)

Prevacid

30mg

once dailyI read everyone talking about taking a grain of Amour... what is the conversion table? Thank you ....

[Guest guest]

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water

giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating

smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it just

kept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of

course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all

the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.

I eat pretty healthy foods.

I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all

my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into

depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not

leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now

I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression

is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter

months.

As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use

Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear

wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are without

any perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it.

Pretty simple stuff.

I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on

potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that)

We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt.

That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : )

I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more

results on retests this week.

topper2@... wrote:

I'm not familiar with Armour being measured in ml.. It's

usually in grains... 60 mg tablet weight is 1 grain. The Generic that I

take is 65 mg tablet weight to a grain. Both contain the same amount of

T4 and T3...

You might want to consider options for the Prevacid. The thyroid

being out of whack often throws off digestion. Using Prevacid to reduce

acid production and take the control away from the body is going to be

worse in the long run.... I had a bleeding ulcer.. gerd for years and

even spent two years where all my food had to be run through a

blender.. that was in the early 80's. I carried around liquid antacids,

cause they worked faster. As the years passed I learned better ways of

eating to be able to get away from the antacids and all the extra salt

and aluminum in them. I took Prevacid for a while too... Helping your

body to control acid production on it's own. Stopping and starting when

it should is much better than just sucking up acid with an antacid,

Prevacid isn't much better. With stomach acids at inadequate levels at

meal time digestion is not complete, leading to poor absorption of both

food/nutrients and medications....

The other stuff, I've never been on any of that... we do know

that depression and allergies are also symptoms of thyroid levels being

off.. both hyper and hypo.

Not sweating, but hot.... that can be a bunch of different

things.... The thing to realize is sweating is our body's natural air

conditioner, it's also a way for our bodies to cleanse themselves of

toxins. The first, most simple things to look at are what types of

things are in contact with your skin and fluid levels in your body.

Along with fluid levels, the potassium and salt balance.

Things on your skin can be soaps, lotions, deodorants, perfumes,

powders and the fabrics that your clothing are made from and what they

are treated with, even the soaps and fabric softeners that you use. I

had a very bad reaction to new work uniforms.. I later found out that

they are treated with Formaldehyde (the stuff that they use to preserve

dead things) and it was my body reacting to the chemical. I'd have to

wash them a half dozen times before I could wear them.

Next time you have some quiet time.. ponder on what things in

your routine might be cause and effect for some of the things that you

are still dealing with. Share them here... let other eyes and minds

ponder what you've come up with.. it's amazing what links you find when

others look over the info as well.

No one is judging... so don't feel as though you're being called

on to justify.. we are just sharing experiences and viewpoints to help

each other to feel better.

Two of the most profound things that I ever did for myself were

suggested by other folks that listened to my ponderings... multi-dosing

my thyroid to include a dose as soon as I wake and one as I crawled

into bed at night... and to dig further into lymphedema.... One was two

years ago.. the other in the last month... we learn new things every

day here by being brave enough to share...

On that note... you are showing a body temp that is a bit low...

how is your pulse?

What was your TSH? The actual value and the lab's range and did

they check the Frees?... (sorry if you've already posted them... I have

trouble keeping everyone straight)

If you were just told the TSH was low, and not given a value..

it's possible that it was 'in normal range' and the doc determined it

to be 'low' without really understanding how to read TSH values. The

lab ranges are important to let us know how the lab is running the

tests, their points of reference and if they are using current

guidelines.

How long were you on the dose of Armour that made you 'hyper'?

Keep in mind that some of the symptoms of hyper are also on the

list of symptoms for adrenal fatigue... so there is some figuring to do

to determine just what is going on.

It take patience.. but the end result is so very worth it.

It would be so much easier if we were all alike and could just

print of a 'recipe' list of things to put in our pill boxes, but it

just doesn't work that way.... so we have to work together and combine

all our powers of observation and 'in the trenches' experience to

figure stuff out sometimes.

Topper ()

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:26:02 -0400

writes:

I have low temp ... 96-97 and I seem to overheat easily. I

was going to a gym ... and I "overheated" I don't sweat ... my face

gets red ... and I don't cool down well. I had blood work done and

was TSH low and I was showing hyper symptoms. So I cut my dosage to

150ml of Amour ... down from 165ml. Here is a list of my

medications. I only take the Clonazepam once a day. I

have been diagnosed with PSTD and DD and of course depression. I was on

Prozac but got sick of living in a stupor ... so stopped. Also stopped

taking Ibprophen when my liver enzymes were high.

Went through all the tests for hepetitis and mono ... nothing there.

Armour

150ml

once morning

Clonazepam

0.5mg

as needed up to 4 times per day

Clonidine

0.1mg

once nightly

Wellbutrin

150mg

once daily

Zyrtec

10mg

Spring and Fall once per day

Ambien

10mg

up to two nightly (usually one)

Prevacid

30mg

once daily

I read everyone talking about taking a grain of Amour... what is the

conversion table?

Thank you ....

--

If God is your Copilot

Our Web Pages

and 's Place

Using

Norton Internet Security & Norton Anti Virus 2004 to stay virus

free.

If God is your Copilot - swap seats!

[Guest guest]

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water

giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating

smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it just

kept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of

course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all

the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.

I eat pretty healthy foods.

I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all

my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into

depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not

leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now

I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression

is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter

months.

As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use

Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear

wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are without

any perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it.

Pretty simple stuff.

I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on

potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that)

We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt.

That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : )

I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more

results on retests this week.

topper2@... wrote:

I'm not familiar with Armour being measured in ml.. It's

usually in grains... 60 mg tablet weight is 1 grain. The Generic that I

take is 65 mg tablet weight to a grain. Both contain the same amount of

T4 and T3...

You might want to consider options for the Prevacid. The thyroid

being out of whack often throws off digestion. Using Prevacid to reduce

acid production and take the control away from the body is going to be

worse in the long run.... I had a bleeding ulcer.. gerd for years and

even spent two years where all my food had to be run through a

blender.. that was in the early 80's. I carried around liquid antacids,

cause they worked faster. As the years passed I learned better ways of

eating to be able to get away from the antacids and all the extra salt

and aluminum in them. I took Prevacid for a while too... Helping your

body to control acid production on it's own. Stopping and starting when

it should is much better than just sucking up acid with an antacid,

Prevacid isn't much better. With stomach acids at inadequate levels at

meal time digestion is not complete, leading to poor absorption of both

food/nutrients and medications....

The other stuff, I've never been on any of that... we do know

that depression and allergies are also symptoms of thyroid levels being

off.. both hyper and hypo.

Not sweating, but hot.... that can be a bunch of different

things.... The thing to realize is sweating is our body's natural air

conditioner, it's also a way for our bodies to cleanse themselves of

toxins. The first, most simple things to look at are what types of

things are in contact with your skin and fluid levels in your body.

Along with fluid levels, the potassium and salt balance.

Things on your skin can be soaps, lotions, deodorants, perfumes,

powders and the fabrics that your clothing are made from and what they

are treated with, even the soaps and fabric softeners that you use. I

had a very bad reaction to new work uniforms.. I later found out that

they are treated with Formaldehyde (the stuff that they use to preserve

dead things) and it was my body reacting to the chemical. I'd have to

wash them a half dozen times before I could wear them.

Next time you have some quiet time.. ponder on what things in

your routine might be cause and effect for some of the things that you

are still dealing with. Share them here... let other eyes and minds

ponder what you've come up with.. it's amazing what links you find when

others look over the info as well.

No one is judging... so don't feel as though you're being called

on to justify.. we are just sharing experiences and viewpoints to help

each other to feel better.

Two of the most profound things that I ever did for myself were

suggested by other folks that listened to my ponderings... multi-dosing

my thyroid to include a dose as soon as I wake and one as I crawled

into bed at night... and to dig further into lymphedema.... One was two

years ago.. the other in the last month... we learn new things every

day here by being brave enough to share...

On that note... you are showing a body temp that is a bit low...

how is your pulse?

What was your TSH? The actual value and the lab's range and did

they check the Frees?... (sorry if you've already posted them... I have

trouble keeping everyone straight)

If you were just told the TSH was low, and not given a value..

it's possible that it was 'in normal range' and the doc determined it

to be 'low' without really understanding how to read TSH values. The

lab ranges are important to let us know how the lab is running the

tests, their points of reference and if they are using current

guidelines.

How long were you on the dose of Armour that made you 'hyper'?

Keep in mind that some of the symptoms of hyper are also on the

list of symptoms for adrenal fatigue... so there is some figuring to do

to determine just what is going on.

It take patience.. but the end result is so very worth it.

It would be so much easier if we were all alike and could just

print of a 'recipe' list of things to put in our pill boxes, but it

just doesn't work that way.... so we have to work together and combine

all our powers of observation and 'in the trenches' experience to

figure stuff out sometimes.

Topper ()

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:26:02 -0400

writes:

I have low temp ... 96-97 and I seem to overheat easily. I

was going to a gym ... and I "overheated" I don't sweat ... my face

gets red ... and I don't cool down well. I had blood work done and

was TSH low and I was showing hyper symptoms. So I cut my dosage to

150ml of Amour ... down from 165ml. Here is a list of my

medications. I only take the Clonazepam once a day. I

have been diagnosed with PSTD and DD and of course depression. I was on

Prozac but got sick of living in a stupor ... so stopped. Also stopped

taking Ibprophen when my liver enzymes were high.

Went through all the tests for hepetitis and mono ... nothing there.

Armour

150ml

once morning

Clonazepam

0.5mg

as needed up to 4 times per day

Clonidine

0.1mg

once nightly

Wellbutrin

150mg

once daily

Zyrtec

10mg

Spring and Fall once per day

Ambien

10mg

up to two nightly (usually one)

Prevacid

30mg

once daily

I read everyone talking about taking a grain of Amour... what is the

conversion table?

Thank you ....

--

If God is your Copilot

Our Web Pages

and 's Place

Using

Norton Internet Security & Norton Anti Virus 2004 to stay virus

free.

If God is your Copilot - swap seats!

[Guest guest]

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water

giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating

smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it just

kept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of

course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all

the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.

I eat pretty healthy foods.

I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all

my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into

depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not

leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now

I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression

is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter

months.

As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use

Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear

wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are without

any perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it.

Pretty simple stuff.

I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on

potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that)

We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt.

That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : )

I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more

results on retests this week.

topper2@... wrote:

I'm not familiar with Armour being measured in ml.. It's

usually in grains... 60 mg tablet weight is 1 grain. The Generic that I

take is 65 mg tablet weight to a grain. Both contain the same amount of

T4 and T3...

You might want to consider options for the Prevacid. The thyroid

being out of whack often throws off digestion. Using Prevacid to reduce

acid production and take the control away from the body is going to be

worse in the long run.... I had a bleeding ulcer.. gerd for years and

even spent two years where all my food had to be run through a

blender.. that was in the early 80's. I carried around liquid antacids,

cause they worked faster. As the years passed I learned better ways of

eating to be able to get away from the antacids and all the extra salt

and aluminum in them. I took Prevacid for a while too... Helping your

body to control acid production on it's own. Stopping and starting when

it should is much better than just sucking up acid with an antacid,

Prevacid isn't much better. With stomach acids at inadequate levels at

meal time digestion is not complete, leading to poor absorption of both

food/nutrients and medications....

The other stuff, I've never been on any of that... we do know

that depression and allergies are also symptoms of thyroid levels being

off.. both hyper and hypo.

Not sweating, but hot.... that can be a bunch of different

things.... The thing to realize is sweating is our body's natural air

conditioner, it's also a way for our bodies to cleanse themselves of

toxins. The first, most simple things to look at are what types of

things are in contact with your skin and fluid levels in your body.

Along with fluid levels, the potassium and salt balance.

Things on your skin can be soaps, lotions, deodorants, perfumes,

powders and the fabrics that your clothing are made from and what they

are treated with, even the soaps and fabric softeners that you use. I

had a very bad reaction to new work uniforms.. I later found out that

they are treated with Formaldehyde (the stuff that they use to preserve

dead things) and it was my body reacting to the chemical. I'd have to

wash them a half dozen times before I could wear them.

Next time you have some quiet time.. ponder on what things in

your routine might be cause and effect for some of the things that you

are still dealing with. Share them here... let other eyes and minds

ponder what you've come up with.. it's amazing what links you find when

others look over the info as well.

No one is judging... so don't feel as though you're being called

on to justify.. we are just sharing experiences and viewpoints to help

each other to feel better.

Two of the most profound things that I ever did for myself were

suggested by other folks that listened to my ponderings... multi-dosing

my thyroid to include a dose as soon as I wake and one as I crawled

into bed at night... and to dig further into lymphedema.... One was two

years ago.. the other in the last month... we learn new things every

day here by being brave enough to share...

On that note... you are showing a body temp that is a bit low...

how is your pulse?

What was your TSH? The actual value and the lab's range and did

they check the Frees?... (sorry if you've already posted them... I have

trouble keeping everyone straight)

If you were just told the TSH was low, and not given a value..

it's possible that it was 'in normal range' and the doc determined it

to be 'low' without really understanding how to read TSH values. The

lab ranges are important to let us know how the lab is running the

tests, their points of reference and if they are using current

guidelines.

How long were you on the dose of Armour that made you 'hyper'?

Keep in mind that some of the symptoms of hyper are also on the

list of symptoms for adrenal fatigue... so there is some figuring to do

to determine just what is going on.

It take patience.. but the end result is so very worth it.

It would be so much easier if we were all alike and could just

print of a 'recipe' list of things to put in our pill boxes, but it

just doesn't work that way.... so we have to work together and combine

all our powers of observation and 'in the trenches' experience to

figure stuff out sometimes.

Topper ()

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:26:02 -0400

writes:

I have low temp ... 96-97 and I seem to overheat easily. I

was going to a gym ... and I "overheated" I don't sweat ... my face

gets red ... and I don't cool down well. I had blood work done and

was TSH low and I was showing hyper symptoms. So I cut my dosage to

150ml of Amour ... down from 165ml. Here is a list of my

medications. I only take the Clonazepam once a day. I

have been diagnosed with PSTD and DD and of course depression. I was on

Prozac but got sick of living in a stupor ... so stopped. Also stopped

taking Ibprophen when my liver enzymes were high.

Went through all the tests for hepetitis and mono ... nothing there.

Armour

150ml

once morning

Clonazepam

0.5mg

as needed up to 4 times per day

Clonidine

0.1mg

once nightly

Wellbutrin

150mg

once daily

Zyrtec

10mg

Spring and Fall once per day

Ambien

10mg

up to two nightly (usually one)

Prevacid

30mg

once daily

I read everyone talking about taking a grain of Amour... what is the

conversion table?

Thank you ....

--

If God is your Copilot

Our Web Pages

and 's Place

Using

Norton Internet Security & Norton Anti Virus 2004 to stay virus

free.

If God is your Copilot - swap seats!

[Guest guest]

I'd like to talk with you a bit about this... see if there is something that you can do to retrain your stomach for better acid control and to see if you can help the sphincter muscle to stop/reduce the reflux.

Some of the stuff I did was pretty weird.. but it got me through a LOT of years... now that my thyroid meds are better... I can eat a slice of pizza and then roll over and go to sleep.... It takes time, a lot of trial and error.... but it's sure an easier life when you don't have to think about how sick something is going to make you when you decide if you want to eat it or not...

We can take this off list... it may take a while.... I found a book in the early 80s that I used as my guide when I figured it out for me... I don't remember anymore what it was called... but I might be able to help you figure out something that might help.

Its a combination of several things:

foods

timing

and your thinking.

.... and no, I am not saying it's in your head. It sure wasn't in mine. I wish I could show you the mattress that I bled all over. I was vomiting blood from the ulcer and I miscarried at the same time... I woke in a pool of blood... crawled almost half way to the bathroom.. and passed out... I woke up two days later... no one could figure out why I lived.

Up until then I had no idea I had an ulcer or that I was pregnant. I was told you couldn't get pregnant from a rape... yeah... we know better now, don't we?

anyway... I'm game to volley, if you are... we might come up with something....

topper2@... is my direct email... so we don't bore the group... hehehhehehee

Topper ()

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:16:11 -0400 writes:

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it justkept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.I eat pretty healthy foods. I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter months. As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are withoutany perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it. Pretty simple stuff.I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that) We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt. That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : ) I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more results on retests this week.

[Guest guest]

I'd like to talk with you a bit about this... see if there is something that you can do to retrain your stomach for better acid control and to see if you can help the sphincter muscle to stop/reduce the reflux.

Some of the stuff I did was pretty weird.. but it got me through a LOT of years... now that my thyroid meds are better... I can eat a slice of pizza and then roll over and go to sleep.... It takes time, a lot of trial and error.... but it's sure an easier life when you don't have to think about how sick something is going to make you when you decide if you want to eat it or not...

We can take this off list... it may take a while.... I found a book in the early 80s that I used as my guide when I figured it out for me... I don't remember anymore what it was called... but I might be able to help you figure out something that might help.

Its a combination of several things:

foods

timing

and your thinking.

.... and no, I am not saying it's in your head. It sure wasn't in mine. I wish I could show you the mattress that I bled all over. I was vomiting blood from the ulcer and I miscarried at the same time... I woke in a pool of blood... crawled almost half way to the bathroom.. and passed out... I woke up two days later... no one could figure out why I lived.

Up until then I had no idea I had an ulcer or that I was pregnant. I was told you couldn't get pregnant from a rape... yeah... we know better now, don't we?

anyway... I'm game to volley, if you are... we might come up with something....

topper2@... is my direct email... so we don't bore the group... hehehhehehee

Topper ()

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:16:11 -0400 writes:

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it justkept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.I eat pretty healthy foods. I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter months. As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are withoutany perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it. Pretty simple stuff.I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that) We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt. That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : ) I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more results on retests this week.

[Guest guest]

I'd like to talk with you a bit about this... see if there is something that you can do to retrain your stomach for better acid control and to see if you can help the sphincter muscle to stop/reduce the reflux.

Some of the stuff I did was pretty weird.. but it got me through a LOT of years... now that my thyroid meds are better... I can eat a slice of pizza and then roll over and go to sleep.... It takes time, a lot of trial and error.... but it's sure an easier life when you don't have to think about how sick something is going to make you when you decide if you want to eat it or not...

We can take this off list... it may take a while.... I found a book in the early 80s that I used as my guide when I figured it out for me... I don't remember anymore what it was called... but I might be able to help you figure out something that might help.

Its a combination of several things:

foods

timing

and your thinking.

.... and no, I am not saying it's in your head. It sure wasn't in mine. I wish I could show you the mattress that I bled all over. I was vomiting blood from the ulcer and I miscarried at the same time... I woke in a pool of blood... crawled almost half way to the bathroom.. and passed out... I woke up two days later... no one could figure out why I lived.

Up until then I had no idea I had an ulcer or that I was pregnant. I was told you couldn't get pregnant from a rape... yeah... we know better now, don't we?

anyway... I'm game to volley, if you are... we might come up with something....

topper2@... is my direct email... so we don't bore the group... hehehhehehee

Topper ()

On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:16:11 -0400 writes:

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it justkept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.I eat pretty healthy foods. I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter months. As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are withoutany perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it. Pretty simple stuff.I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that) We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt. That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : ) I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more results on retests this week.

[Guest guest]

Yes.. overheating is common with hyper...

But I'd really need to STRONGLY suggest that you back off on the activity... the stress to your heart is too great... You could trigger a heart attack.. and if you are TOOO hyper, they're not gonna be able to help you.

What is your resting heart rate? I can't remember what you said.....

I do know that when you are hyper, as I was, you crave activity, it's hard to sit still... but you need to find stuff that isn't so stressful to your breathing and heart.... I got into body building... until my body couldnt' handle that anymore and stopped me with pain.....

Just a suggestion...

Topper ()

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Aarathy Acharya writes:

Hi,

Someone mentioned overheating when working out and here's what I find when I work out:

I recently started (restarted actually) playing squash after a long lay off ( About a year ago, I was diagnosed hyper and told to lay off any activity that raised my heart rate above 140 bpm). About 15 minutes into a game I tend to overheat. I get extremely red; I sweat excessively before that but stop after I get red and so on.... sometimes I see double . If I push past that, drink a lot of cold water, I can play fine and I slowly get back to normal (I dont know if it is advisable to push past the overheating part).

I think the reason is, IMHO, high heart rate. When I play squash, there are bursts of time when my heart rate gets pretty high (I know it goes as high as 180 bpm). I do not overheat as much now since I have been playing for about a couple of months now. I tend to make sure I drink a lot of water all day if I plan to play squash these days. I think that helps. I also wear breathable clothes when I play and that helps a lot. A regular t-shirt on which sweat accumulates seems to increase my discomfort a lot.

However, if I do my regular work out (about an hour of walking/running at 4.5 - 5mph) I do not overheat. When I run/walk, my heart rate never hits above 150 (I run on a treadmill now so I can check heart rate pretty accurately) and my body is used to that.

What I am not sure of is if the overheating is related to being hyper. I went in to get my labs after I started overheating (about a month after) and it returned with the frees just below midrange. So I am a bit confused on how and if it relates to the thyroid.

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

Yes.. overheating is common with hyper...

But I'd really need to STRONGLY suggest that you back off on the activity... the stress to your heart is too great... You could trigger a heart attack.. and if you are TOOO hyper, they're not gonna be able to help you.

What is your resting heart rate? I can't remember what you said.....

I do know that when you are hyper, as I was, you crave activity, it's hard to sit still... but you need to find stuff that isn't so stressful to your breathing and heart.... I got into body building... until my body couldnt' handle that anymore and stopped me with pain.....

Just a suggestion...

Topper ()

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Aarathy Acharya writes:

Hi,

Someone mentioned overheating when working out and here's what I find when I work out:

I recently started (restarted actually) playing squash after a long lay off ( About a year ago, I was diagnosed hyper and told to lay off any activity that raised my heart rate above 140 bpm). About 15 minutes into a game I tend to overheat. I get extremely red; I sweat excessively before that but stop after I get red and so on.... sometimes I see double . If I push past that, drink a lot of cold water, I can play fine and I slowly get back to normal (I dont know if it is advisable to push past the overheating part).

I think the reason is, IMHO, high heart rate. When I play squash, there are bursts of time when my heart rate gets pretty high (I know it goes as high as 180 bpm). I do not overheat as much now since I have been playing for about a couple of months now. I tend to make sure I drink a lot of water all day if I plan to play squash these days. I think that helps. I also wear breathable clothes when I play and that helps a lot. A regular t-shirt on which sweat accumulates seems to increase my discomfort a lot.

However, if I do my regular work out (about an hour of walking/running at 4.5 - 5mph) I do not overheat. When I run/walk, my heart rate never hits above 150 (I run on a treadmill now so I can check heart rate pretty accurately) and my body is used to that.

What I am not sure of is if the overheating is related to being hyper. I went in to get my labs after I started overheating (about a month after) and it returned with the frees just below midrange. So I am a bit confused on how and if it relates to the thyroid.

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

Yes.. overheating is common with hyper...

But I'd really need to STRONGLY suggest that you back off on the activity... the stress to your heart is too great... You could trigger a heart attack.. and if you are TOOO hyper, they're not gonna be able to help you.

What is your resting heart rate? I can't remember what you said.....

I do know that when you are hyper, as I was, you crave activity, it's hard to sit still... but you need to find stuff that isn't so stressful to your breathing and heart.... I got into body building... until my body couldnt' handle that anymore and stopped me with pain.....

Just a suggestion...

Topper ()

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Aarathy Acharya writes:

Hi,

Someone mentioned overheating when working out and here's what I find when I work out:

I recently started (restarted actually) playing squash after a long lay off ( About a year ago, I was diagnosed hyper and told to lay off any activity that raised my heart rate above 140 bpm). About 15 minutes into a game I tend to overheat. I get extremely red; I sweat excessively before that but stop after I get red and so on.... sometimes I see double . If I push past that, drink a lot of cold water, I can play fine and I slowly get back to normal (I dont know if it is advisable to push past the overheating part).

I think the reason is, IMHO, high heart rate. When I play squash, there are bursts of time when my heart rate gets pretty high (I know it goes as high as 180 bpm). I do not overheat as much now since I have been playing for about a couple of months now. I tend to make sure I drink a lot of water all day if I plan to play squash these days. I think that helps. I also wear breathable clothes when I play and that helps a lot. A regular t-shirt on which sweat accumulates seems to increase my discomfort a lot.

However, if I do my regular work out (about an hour of walking/running at 4.5 - 5mph) I do not overheat. When I run/walk, my heart rate never hits above 150 (I run on a treadmill now so I can check heart rate pretty accurately) and my body is used to that.

What I am not sure of is if the overheating is related to being hyper. I went in to get my labs after I started overheating (about a month after) and it returned with the frees just below midrange. So I am a bit confused on how and if it relates to the thyroid.

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

Every last bit of it sounds like thyroid to me. The dosage is usually more successful splitting it (the thyroid med). You run out of T3 the rest of the day, taking only one dose in the morning, plus it's too heavy a concentration all at one time. T3 only lasts a short while. Our own healthy thyroids originally manufactured thyroid hormone day and night nonstop. I'm trying to mimmick this by taking mine in 7 split doses throughout the entire time I'm awake, with a last dose right as I lie down to go to sleep. I've also been known to get up and take a tiny 15 mg dose right in the middle of my sleep, if I can't sleep or start getting restless again. Guess what, I figured out that it works, though I don't take it in the middle of my sleep regularly, just sometimes.

Re: Topper you talked of sweating

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it justkept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.I eat pretty healthy foods. I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter months. As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are withoutany perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it. Pretty simple stuff.I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that) We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt. That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : ) I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more results on retests this week.

[Guest guest]

Every last bit of it sounds like thyroid to me. The dosage is usually more successful splitting it (the thyroid med). You run out of T3 the rest of the day, taking only one dose in the morning, plus it's too heavy a concentration all at one time. T3 only lasts a short while. Our own healthy thyroids originally manufactured thyroid hormone day and night nonstop. I'm trying to mimmick this by taking mine in 7 split doses throughout the entire time I'm awake, with a last dose right as I lie down to go to sleep. I've also been known to get up and take a tiny 15 mg dose right in the middle of my sleep, if I can't sleep or start getting restless again. Guess what, I figured out that it works, though I don't take it in the middle of my sleep regularly, just sometimes.

Re: Topper you talked of sweating

The Prevacid I couldn't live without ... I went for years with water giving me heartburn ... tried everything ... the baby food ... eating smaller meals more often ... blending ... no caffeine ... and it justkept getting worse ... started eating holes in my esophagus and of course I had ulcers too. I also have to sleep a bit elevated or all the acid comes up and I aspirate it in my sleep.I eat pretty healthy foods. I know depression is a symptom ... and I had weaned myself off of all my meds ... but then the panic attacks start ... I slip deeper into depression ... and I stop going anywhere ... the longest was not leaving the house for 2 years. And not seeing a doctor for 5. So now I see a therapist ... and take my medication as needed. My depression is also seasonal so I have a light that I use in the fall/winter months. As far as what touches my skin ... nothing has changed ... I use Tide/Downey for my laundry soap and fabric softener ... I always wear wash and wear clothes. And my shampoo and soap are withoutany perfumes. No powders ...of course a deodorant. But that's it. Pretty simple stuff.I keep hydrated especially at the gym ... and I can tell if I'm low on potassium if my legs start cramping at night ... (I haven't had that) We drink bottled water because our well water is high in salt. That's it ... lol ... my life in 4 paragraphs ... : ) I sent in a copy of my last blood work results ... should have more results on retests this week.

[Guest guest]

Frees just over midrange? That's not hyper at all, and you must have a doctor who considers the TSH only? TSH does not make one hyper, unless the thyroid hormones are being overproduced, T3 and T4. TSH is a pituitary hormone.

Re: Topper you talked of sweating

Hi,

Someone mentioned overheating when working out and here's what I find when I work out:

I recently started (restarted actually) playing squash after a long lay off ( About a year ago, I was diagnosed hyper and told to lay off any activity that raised my heart rate above 140 bpm). About 15 minutes into a game I tend to overheat. I get extremely red; I sweat excessively before that but stop after I get red and so on.... sometimes I see double . If I push past that, drink a lot of cold water, I can play fine and I slowly get back to normal (I dont know if it is advisable to push past the overheating part).

I think the reason is, IMHO, high heart rate. When I play squash, there are bursts of time when my heart rate gets pretty high (I know it goes as high as 180 bpm). I do not overheat as much now since I have been playing for about a couple of months now. I tend to make sure I drink a lot of water all day if I plan to play squash these days. I think that helps. I also wear breathable clothes when I play and that helps a lot. A regular t-shirt on which sweat accumulates seems to increase my discomfort a lot.

However, if I do my regular work out (about an hour of walking/running at 4.5 - 5mph) I do not overheat. When I run/walk, my heart rate never hits above 150 (I run on a treadmill now so I can check heart rate pretty accurately) and my body is used to that.

What I am not sure of is if the overheating is related to being hyper. I went in to get my labs after I started overheating (about a month after) and it returned with the frees just below midrange. So I am a bit confused on how and if it relates to the thyroid.

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

Frees just over midrange? That's not hyper at all, and you must have a doctor who considers the TSH only? TSH does not make one hyper, unless the thyroid hormones are being overproduced, T3 and T4. TSH is a pituitary hormone.

Re: Topper you talked of sweating

Hi,

Someone mentioned overheating when working out and here's what I find when I work out:

I recently started (restarted actually) playing squash after a long lay off ( About a year ago, I was diagnosed hyper and told to lay off any activity that raised my heart rate above 140 bpm). About 15 minutes into a game I tend to overheat. I get extremely red; I sweat excessively before that but stop after I get red and so on.... sometimes I see double . If I push past that, drink a lot of cold water, I can play fine and I slowly get back to normal (I dont know if it is advisable to push past the overheating part).

I think the reason is, IMHO, high heart rate. When I play squash, there are bursts of time when my heart rate gets pretty high (I know it goes as high as 180 bpm). I do not overheat as much now since I have been playing for about a couple of months now. I tend to make sure I drink a lot of water all day if I plan to play squash these days. I think that helps. I also wear breathable clothes when I play and that helps a lot. A regular t-shirt on which sweat accumulates seems to increase my discomfort a lot.

However, if I do my regular work out (about an hour of walking/running at 4.5 - 5mph) I do not overheat. When I run/walk, my heart rate never hits above 150 (I run on a treadmill now so I can check heart rate pretty accurately) and my body is used to that.

What I am not sure of is if the overheating is related to being hyper. I went in to get my labs after I started overheating (about a month after) and it returned with the frees just below midrange. So I am a bit confused on how and if it relates to the thyroid.

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

Frees just over midrange? That's not hyper at all, and you must have a doctor who considers the TSH only? TSH does not make one hyper, unless the thyroid hormones are being overproduced, T3 and T4. TSH is a pituitary hormone.

Re: Topper you talked of sweating

Hi,

Someone mentioned overheating when working out and here's what I find when I work out:

I recently started (restarted actually) playing squash after a long lay off ( About a year ago, I was diagnosed hyper and told to lay off any activity that raised my heart rate above 140 bpm). About 15 minutes into a game I tend to overheat. I get extremely red; I sweat excessively before that but stop after I get red and so on.... sometimes I see double . If I push past that, drink a lot of cold water, I can play fine and I slowly get back to normal (I dont know if it is advisable to push past the overheating part).

I think the reason is, IMHO, high heart rate. When I play squash, there are bursts of time when my heart rate gets pretty high (I know it goes as high as 180 bpm). I do not overheat as much now since I have been playing for about a couple of months now. I tend to make sure I drink a lot of water all day if I plan to play squash these days. I think that helps. I also wear breathable clothes when I play and that helps a lot. A regular t-shirt on which sweat accumulates seems to increase my discomfort a lot.

However, if I do my regular work out (about an hour of walking/running at 4.5 - 5mph) I do not overheat. When I run/walk, my heart rate never hits above 150 (I run on a treadmill now so I can check heart rate pretty accurately) and my body is used to that.

What I am not sure of is if the overheating is related to being hyper. I went in to get my labs after I started overheating (about a month after) and it returned with the frees just below midrange. So I am a bit confused on how and if it relates to the thyroid.

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

Hi Topper,

---------------------------

> Yes.. overheating is common with hyper...

>

> But I'd really need to STRONGLY suggest that you back off on the

> activity... the stress to your heart is too great... You could

trigger a

> heart attack.. and if you are TOOO hyper, they're not gonna be

able to

> help you.

>

> What is your resting heart rate? I can't remember what you

said.....

--------------------------------------

My resting heart rate is between 68 and 72. I am actually not hyper

at this pt (test results show frees being just below mid range) and

was confused about why I was overheating without being hyper. Hence

the reason for looking for other causes.

No I am not an exercise fanatic (not yet ). I do stop if I am in

pain or feel exhausted. My heart rate goes high without me being out

of breath or anything but I still over heat (another thing that

confuses me). And these days I am more lethargic than not. All in

all I feel more hypo than hyper!

Yes I am a lot more careful with my activity levels these days (If I

dont feel like working out, I do not force myself to). I am a bit

frustrated that I need to curtail the activity levels though.

thanks for your reply (and concern) and your suggestion is taken

under consideration .

take care,

Aarathy.

[Guest guest]

Hi Topper,

---------------------------

> Yes.. overheating is common with hyper...

>

> But I'd really need to STRONGLY suggest that you back off on the

> activity... the stress to your heart is too great... You could

trigger a

> heart attack.. and if you are TOOO hyper, they're not gonna be

able to

> help you.

>

> What is your resting heart rate? I can't remember what you

said.....

--------------------------------------

My resting heart rate is between 68 and 72. I am actually not hyper

at this pt (test results show frees being just below mid range) and

was confused about why I was overheating without being hyper. Hence

the reason for looking for other causes.

No I am not an exercise fanatic (not yet ). I do stop if I am in

pain or feel exhausted. My heart rate goes high without me being out

of breath or anything but I still over heat (another thing that

confuses me). And these days I am more lethargic than not. All in

all I feel more hypo than hyper!

Yes I am a lot more careful with my activity levels these days (If I

dont feel like working out, I do not force myself to). I am a bit

frustrated that I need to curtail the activity levels though.

thanks for your reply (and concern) and your suggestion is taken

under consideration .

take care,

Aarathy.

[Guest guest]

We have to start a club, ... I dose 6 times a day... 1/2 grain doses each time... Imagine, a half grain at bed time and I'm out like a light... I fall asleep with the sucker still under my tongue. I have no idea, but I think with my being asleep and not salivating and swallowing a lot that it takes longer for that one to dissolve... it's what makes my sleep sound and recuperative.....

I can even stretch with comfort and joy now.... for years I couldn't, it triggered all over body cramps... as in my whole body cramped and I was unable to move... happened just about every morning when I waking. If I tried not to stretch I was less likely for it to happen... when it did... it could last up to two hours... TWO HOURS of laying in so much pain I had tears streaming down the sides of my face and puddling in my ears... but I couldn't cry.. if I scrunched my face it would cramp too.. so I'd just lay as still as I could, not trying to move at all, waiting for everything to release.. and hoping that it wouldn't start again when I tried to stand up... and run to the bathroom. I cramped my bladder and sphincter too... trying not to wet in the bed during the cramp.

Now? I can stretch any ole time I want.. and stretching and range of motion work is part of my nightly Bedxercise routine... NO MORE CRAMPS!!!

*BIG HUGE TOOTHY GRIN*

Topper ()

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:01:36 -0500 " " writes:

Every last bit of it sounds like thyroid to me. The dosage is usually more successful splitting it (the thyroid med). You run out of T3 the rest of the day, taking only one dose in the morning, plus it's too heavy a concentration all at one time. T3 only lasts a short while. Our own healthy thyroids originally manufactured thyroid hormone day and night nonstop. I'm trying to mimmick this by taking mine in 7 split doses throughout the entire time I'm awake, with a last dose right as I lie down to go to sleep. I've also been known to get up and take a tiny 15 mg dose right in the middle of my sleep, if I can't sleep or start getting restless again. Guess what, I figured out that it works, though I don't take it in the middle of my sleep regularly, just sometimes.

[Guest guest]

We have to start a club, ... I dose 6 times a day... 1/2 grain doses each time... Imagine, a half grain at bed time and I'm out like a light... I fall asleep with the sucker still under my tongue. I have no idea, but I think with my being asleep and not salivating and swallowing a lot that it takes longer for that one to dissolve... it's what makes my sleep sound and recuperative.....

I can even stretch with comfort and joy now.... for years I couldn't, it triggered all over body cramps... as in my whole body cramped and I was unable to move... happened just about every morning when I waking. If I tried not to stretch I was less likely for it to happen... when it did... it could last up to two hours... TWO HOURS of laying in so much pain I had tears streaming down the sides of my face and puddling in my ears... but I couldn't cry.. if I scrunched my face it would cramp too.. so I'd just lay as still as I could, not trying to move at all, waiting for everything to release.. and hoping that it wouldn't start again when I tried to stand up... and run to the bathroom. I cramped my bladder and sphincter too... trying not to wet in the bed during the cramp.

Now? I can stretch any ole time I want.. and stretching and range of motion work is part of my nightly Bedxercise routine... NO MORE CRAMPS!!!

*BIG HUGE TOOTHY GRIN*

Topper ()

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:01:36 -0500 " " writes:

Every last bit of it sounds like thyroid to me. The dosage is usually more successful splitting it (the thyroid med). You run out of T3 the rest of the day, taking only one dose in the morning, plus it's too heavy a concentration all at one time. T3 only lasts a short while. Our own healthy thyroids originally manufactured thyroid hormone day and night nonstop. I'm trying to mimmick this by taking mine in 7 split doses throughout the entire time I'm awake, with a last dose right as I lie down to go to sleep. I've also been known to get up and take a tiny 15 mg dose right in the middle of my sleep, if I can't sleep or start getting restless again. Guess what, I figured out that it works, though I don't take it in the middle of my sleep regularly, just sometimes.

[Guest guest]

We have to start a club, ... I dose 6 times a day... 1/2 grain doses each time... Imagine, a half grain at bed time and I'm out like a light... I fall asleep with the sucker still under my tongue. I have no idea, but I think with my being asleep and not salivating and swallowing a lot that it takes longer for that one to dissolve... it's what makes my sleep sound and recuperative.....

I can even stretch with comfort and joy now.... for years I couldn't, it triggered all over body cramps... as in my whole body cramped and I was unable to move... happened just about every morning when I waking. If I tried not to stretch I was less likely for it to happen... when it did... it could last up to two hours... TWO HOURS of laying in so much pain I had tears streaming down the sides of my face and puddling in my ears... but I couldn't cry.. if I scrunched my face it would cramp too.. so I'd just lay as still as I could, not trying to move at all, waiting for everything to release.. and hoping that it wouldn't start again when I tried to stand up... and run to the bathroom. I cramped my bladder and sphincter too... trying not to wet in the bed during the cramp.

Now? I can stretch any ole time I want.. and stretching and range of motion work is part of my nightly Bedxercise routine... NO MORE CRAMPS!!!

*BIG HUGE TOOTHY GRIN*

Topper ()

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 16:01:36 -0500 " " writes:

Every last bit of it sounds like thyroid to me. The dosage is usually more successful splitting it (the thyroid med). You run out of T3 the rest of the day, taking only one dose in the morning, plus it's too heavy a concentration all at one time. T3 only lasts a short while. Our own healthy thyroids originally manufactured thyroid hormone day and night nonstop. I'm trying to mimmick this by taking mine in 7 split doses throughout the entire time I'm awake, with a last dose right as I lie down to go to sleep. I've also been known to get up and take a tiny 15 mg dose right in the middle of my sleep, if I can't sleep or start getting restless again. Guess what, I figured out that it works, though I don't take it in the middle of my sleep regularly, just sometimes.

[Guest guest]

heheheheeh yep... you got us all excited!!!

with the numbers that you are showing.. you are a bit hypo, in my humble opinion... the hyper/jittery stuff may be excessive adrenals... trying to kick in and keep you going with all of your activity... \

When you're hypo your body has to work extra hard with everything you do.. hence the sweating...

But I'll stop at that...

*blush*

Topper ()

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Aarathy Acharya writes:

Ok, I think I successfully managed to confuse the heck out of everybody. Sorry about that.

I was hyper in Dec 2003, and then bounced around the hypo region for a while before I was ruled euthyroid in April 2004. I started having symptoms (being jittery/lost a little bit of weight/depression/muscle aches/bowel issues/appetite) again in August. The overheating was at around that time as well. So my doc checked my thyroid again and my frees were just below midrange

FT3 : 3.0 (2.3-4.2)

FT4 1.2 (0.8-1.8)

TSH : 1.73

She said I was euthyroid, but I still had symptoms (of hypo and the overheating bit). I was confused because, I was still overheating when obviously I was not hyper.

I decided I was overheating because I started playing squash after a long time and my body was not used to that kind of activity and maybe needed to be a bit more hydrated.

Some people on this board were of the opinion that the Frees being in the lower part of the range could be causing my symptoms and that I might do some more bouncing in the future . I am scheduled to get another opinion about all this in a few weeks.

thanks,

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

heheheheeh yep... you got us all excited!!!

with the numbers that you are showing.. you are a bit hypo, in my humble opinion... the hyper/jittery stuff may be excessive adrenals... trying to kick in and keep you going with all of your activity... \

When you're hypo your body has to work extra hard with everything you do.. hence the sweating...

But I'll stop at that...

*blush*

Topper ()

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Aarathy Acharya writes:

Ok, I think I successfully managed to confuse the heck out of everybody. Sorry about that.

I was hyper in Dec 2003, and then bounced around the hypo region for a while before I was ruled euthyroid in April 2004. I started having symptoms (being jittery/lost a little bit of weight/depression/muscle aches/bowel issues/appetite) again in August. The overheating was at around that time as well. So my doc checked my thyroid again and my frees were just below midrange

FT3 : 3.0 (2.3-4.2)

FT4 1.2 (0.8-1.8)

TSH : 1.73

She said I was euthyroid, but I still had symptoms (of hypo and the overheating bit). I was confused because, I was still overheating when obviously I was not hyper.

I decided I was overheating because I started playing squash after a long time and my body was not used to that kind of activity and maybe needed to be a bit more hydrated.

Some people on this board were of the opinion that the Frees being in the lower part of the range could be causing my symptoms and that I might do some more bouncing in the future . I am scheduled to get another opinion about all this in a few weeks.

thanks,

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

heheheheeh yep... you got us all excited!!!

with the numbers that you are showing.. you are a bit hypo, in my humble opinion... the hyper/jittery stuff may be excessive adrenals... trying to kick in and keep you going with all of your activity... \

When you're hypo your body has to work extra hard with everything you do.. hence the sweating...

But I'll stop at that...

*blush*

Topper ()

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Aarathy Acharya writes:

Ok, I think I successfully managed to confuse the heck out of everybody. Sorry about that.

I was hyper in Dec 2003, and then bounced around the hypo region for a while before I was ruled euthyroid in April 2004. I started having symptoms (being jittery/lost a little bit of weight/depression/muscle aches/bowel issues/appetite) again in August. The overheating was at around that time as well. So my doc checked my thyroid again and my frees were just below midrange

FT3 : 3.0 (2.3-4.2)

FT4 1.2 (0.8-1.8)

TSH : 1.73

She said I was euthyroid, but I still had symptoms (of hypo and the overheating bit). I was confused because, I was still overheating when obviously I was not hyper.

I decided I was overheating because I started playing squash after a long time and my body was not used to that kind of activity and maybe needed to be a bit more hydrated.

Some people on this board were of the opinion that the Frees being in the lower part of the range could be causing my symptoms and that I might do some more bouncing in the future . I am scheduled to get another opinion about all this in a few weeks.

thanks,

Arthy.

[Guest guest]

I admit that I get to be a mother hen at times... I dread anyone going through what I have in the past...

I'm a bit embarrassed that I misunderstood... and I'm glad that you understand that I mean well....

..... I think your Free's are still a bit low though... but well... I'm trying to be quiet....

..... foot in mouth disease and all....

*blush*

Topper ()

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:45:39 -0000 "a_val1974" writes:

My resting heart rate is between 68 and 72. I am actually not hyper at this pt (test results show frees being just below mid range) and was confused about why I was overheating without being hyper. Hence the reason for looking for other causes.No I am not an exercise fanatic (not yet ). I do stop if I am in pain or feel exhausted. My heart rate goes high without me being out of breath or anything but I still over heat (another thing that confuses me). And these days I am more lethargic than not. All in all I feel more hypo than hyper! Yes I am a lot more careful with my activity levels these days (If I dont feel like working out, I do not force myself to). I am a bit frustrated that I need to curtail the activity levels though. :)thanks for your reply (and concern) and your suggestion is taken under consideration .take care,Aarathy.

[Guest guest]

I admit that I get to be a mother hen at times... I dread anyone going through what I have in the past...

I'm a bit embarrassed that I misunderstood... and I'm glad that you understand that I mean well....

..... I think your Free's are still a bit low though... but well... I'm trying to be quiet....

..... foot in mouth disease and all....

*blush*

Topper ()

On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:45:39 -0000 "a_val1974" writes:

My resting heart rate is between 68 and 72. I am actually not hyper at this pt (test results show frees being just below mid range) and was confused about why I was overheating without being hyper. Hence the reason for looking for other causes.No I am not an exercise fanatic (not yet ). I do stop if I am in pain or feel exhausted. My heart rate goes high without me being out of breath or anything but I still over heat (another thing that confuses me). And these days I am more lethargic than not. All in all I feel more hypo than hyper! Yes I am a lot more careful with my activity levels these days (If I dont feel like working out, I do not force myself to). I am a bit frustrated that I need to curtail the activity levels though. :)thanks for your reply (and concern) and your suggestion is taken under consideration .take care,Aarathy.