Re: humalog

February 5, 2002

> First of all, I want to thank Kathy for her Glucosecharts.xls

> spreadsheet. I started using it about a month ago and it works

> great! When I gave my doctor the charts, all he could say was that

> he wished he had more patients like myself - organized! All I can

> say is that the charts really provide a good picture of how good (or

> bad) I am doing. Thanks again Kathy!

Cool! Thanks, Bill, that was sweet!

> Have a normal day!!

Gotta say I love this!

Kathy

February 5, 2002

> First of all, I want to thank Kathy for her Glucosecharts.xls

> spreadsheet. I started using it about a month ago and it works

> great! When I gave my doctor the charts, all he could say was that

> he wished he had more patients like myself - organized! All I can

> say is that the charts really provide a good picture of how good (or

> bad) I am doing. Thanks again Kathy!

Cool! Thanks, Bill, that was sweet!

> Have a normal day!!

Gotta say I love this!

Kathy

February 5, 2002

Bill, I'd start with 1 unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carb to be

eaten, injected in the abdomen (works faster) about 15 minutes before your

meal. To do it accurately take a couple of meals on different days and test

every 30 minutes from the time you first start eating until you see your bg

start lowering again, if it goes up. The perfect dose will allow your bg to

remain the same before and after your dinner, but that doesn't happen very

often.

My Humalog dosing varies with different meals. I don't eat carbs for

breakfast, so I don't use any then, and I use 1 unit to 20 g. carb for my

midday meal, if I'm going to be very active in the afternoon. Dinner I

stick with the 1unit to 15g carb and eat low carb. You're right though,

it's very YMMV.

Barb

> The doctor has agreed to add the Humalog to my regime at meals. I

> know that many of you have posted this info in the past, but at that

> time I didn't pay attention to the amount/carb should be taken. I

> know that this is going to be a test, test, test and YMMV situation,

> but where do you guys and gals think a person should start at? Also,

> is there anything I should be aware of - unusual side effects, etc?

February 5, 2002

Bill, I'd start with 1 unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carb to be

eaten, injected in the abdomen (works faster) about 15 minutes before your

meal. To do it accurately take a couple of meals on different days and test

every 30 minutes from the time you first start eating until you see your bg

start lowering again, if it goes up. The perfect dose will allow your bg to

remain the same before and after your dinner, but that doesn't happen very

often.

My Humalog dosing varies with different meals. I don't eat carbs for

breakfast, so I don't use any then, and I use 1 unit to 20 g. carb for my

midday meal, if I'm going to be very active in the afternoon. Dinner I

stick with the 1unit to 15g carb and eat low carb. You're right though,

it's very YMMV.

Barb

> The doctor has agreed to add the Humalog to my regime at meals. I

> know that many of you have posted this info in the past, but at that

> time I didn't pay attention to the amount/carb should be taken. I

> know that this is going to be a test, test, test and YMMV situation,

> but where do you guys and gals think a person should start at? Also,

> is there anything I should be aware of - unusual side effects, etc?

February 5, 2002

Bill, I'd start with 1 unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carb to be

eaten, injected in the abdomen (works faster) about 15 minutes before your

meal. To do it accurately take a couple of meals on different days and test

every 30 minutes from the time you first start eating until you see your bg

start lowering again, if it goes up. The perfect dose will allow your bg to

remain the same before and after your dinner, but that doesn't happen very

often.

My Humalog dosing varies with different meals. I don't eat carbs for

breakfast, so I don't use any then, and I use 1 unit to 20 g. carb for my

midday meal, if I'm going to be very active in the afternoon. Dinner I

stick with the 1unit to 15g carb and eat low carb. You're right though,

it's very YMMV.

Barb

> The doctor has agreed to add the Humalog to my regime at meals. I

> know that many of you have posted this info in the past, but at that

> time I didn't pay attention to the amount/carb should be taken. I

> know that this is going to be a test, test, test and YMMV situation,

> but where do you guys and gals think a person should start at? Also,

> is there anything I should be aware of - unusual side effects, etc?

February 5, 2002

Thanks.

That was what I thought I remembered being posted earlier in the year, but

just wanted to make sure.

I start tonight.

Bill, I'd start with 1 unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carb to be

eaten, injected in the abdomen (works faster) about 15 minutes before your

meal. To do it accurately take a couple of meals on different days and test

every 30 minutes from the time you first start eating until you see your bg

start lowering again, if it goes up. The perfect dose will allow your bg to

remain the same before and after your dinner, but that doesn't happen very

often.

My Humalog dosing varies with different meals. I don't eat carbs for

breakfast, so I don't use any then, and I use 1 unit to 20 g. carb for my

midday meal, if I'm going to be very active in the afternoon. Dinner I

stick with the 1unit to 15g carb and eat low carb. You're right though,

it's very YMMV.

February 5, 2002

Thanks.

That was what I thought I remembered being posted earlier in the year, but

just wanted to make sure.

I start tonight.

Bill, I'd start with 1 unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carb to be

eaten, injected in the abdomen (works faster) about 15 minutes before your

meal. To do it accurately take a couple of meals on different days and test

every 30 minutes from the time you first start eating until you see your bg

start lowering again, if it goes up. The perfect dose will allow your bg to

remain the same before and after your dinner, but that doesn't happen very

often.

My Humalog dosing varies with different meals. I don't eat carbs for

breakfast, so I don't use any then, and I use 1 unit to 20 g. carb for my

midday meal, if I'm going to be very active in the afternoon. Dinner I

stick with the 1unit to 15g carb and eat low carb. You're right though,

it's very YMMV.

February 5, 2002

Thanks.

That was what I thought I remembered being posted earlier in the year, but

just wanted to make sure.

I start tonight.

Bill, I'd start with 1 unit of Humalog for each 15 grams of carb to be

eaten, injected in the abdomen (works faster) about 15 minutes before your

meal. To do it accurately take a couple of meals on different days and test

every 30 minutes from the time you first start eating until you see your bg

start lowering again, if it goes up. The perfect dose will allow your bg to

remain the same before and after your dinner, but that doesn't happen very

often.

My Humalog dosing varies with different meals. I don't eat carbs for

breakfast, so I don't use any then, and I use 1 unit to 20 g. carb for my

midday meal, if I'm going to be very active in the afternoon. Dinner I

stick with the 1unit to 15g carb and eat low carb. You're right though,

it's very YMMV.

February 5, 2002

-Hi, I started on Lantus about 6months ago. started at 7units at

bedtime I now take 70units at bedtime. I also take humalog 20units

at meals unless my bgs are low and I know Im not going to eat many

carbs. this seems to work for me real good my bgs are usually 96 to

130 so I think this is good. i also take glucophagexl 1500mgs at

night. i tried the actos but it wasn't good for me made me gain

weight. well anyway good luck.

February 6, 2002

That's a good plan, Bill. Let us know how it goes. Vicki

<< I may stay with 5 units for a few

days, eating basically the same meals, to see how the numbers work out and

then increase as needed. >>

February 6, 2002

That's a good plan, Bill. Let us know how it goes. Vicki

<< I may stay with 5 units for a few

days, eating basically the same meals, to see how the numbers work out and

then increase as needed. >>

February 6, 2002

You know, Marc, there are ways to satisfy your sweet tooth without eating

" sweets " -- by that I assume you meant candy, cookies or coffeecake or some

such " forbidden " food--

Something that always works for me is ricotta cheese with some flavor -- any

flavor -- DaVinci lowcarb syrup smushed together. . There are lots of lovely

flavors, all sweet...and won't raise your BG at all.

I'm sure you'd rather try " alternative sweets " then take insulin. A little

discipline is what's needed here, smile. Vicki

<< At 8pm I had some sweets, had a wild

craving and went downstairs to my neigbour to get it. An hour or so later I

was at 9. So that I was higher than six wasn't a big surprise, but normally

my fasting bg is closer to 5.5, been 5.1 a few times.

Would you say that Humalog would be something I should think about? I

don't

think so, plus I'd rather not be injecting myself if not needed. >>

February 6, 2002

You know, Marc, there are ways to satisfy your sweet tooth without eating

" sweets " -- by that I assume you meant candy, cookies or coffeecake or some

such " forbidden " food--

Something that always works for me is ricotta cheese with some flavor -- any

flavor -- DaVinci lowcarb syrup smushed together. . There are lots of lovely

flavors, all sweet...and won't raise your BG at all.

I'm sure you'd rather try " alternative sweets " then take insulin. A little

discipline is what's needed here, smile. Vicki

<< At 8pm I had some sweets, had a wild

craving and went downstairs to my neigbour to get it. An hour or so later I

was at 9. So that I was higher than six wasn't a big surprise, but normally

my fasting bg is closer to 5.5, been 5.1 a few times.

Would you say that Humalog would be something I should think about? I

don't

think so, plus I'd rather not be injecting myself if not needed. >>

February 6, 2002

You know, Marc, there are ways to satisfy your sweet tooth without eating

" sweets " -- by that I assume you meant candy, cookies or coffeecake or some

such " forbidden " food--

Something that always works for me is ricotta cheese with some flavor -- any

flavor -- DaVinci lowcarb syrup smushed together. . There are lots of lovely

flavors, all sweet...and won't raise your BG at all.

I'm sure you'd rather try " alternative sweets " then take insulin. A little

discipline is what's needed here, smile. Vicki

<< At 8pm I had some sweets, had a wild

craving and went downstairs to my neigbour to get it. An hour or so later I

was at 9. So that I was higher than six wasn't a big surprise, but normally

my fasting bg is closer to 5.5, been 5.1 a few times.

Would you say that Humalog would be something I should think about? I

don't

think so, plus I'd rather not be injecting myself if not needed. >>

February 6, 2002

This is true...and probably the reason many people connect insulin use with

weight gain. Because, of course, if you eat as much of whatever it is you

want and cover with insulin, if you eat more calories than you burn, you'll

gain weight. Pure and simple. Vicki

<<

One of the great things about injecting insulin is that you could eat pretty

much anything you want, and just adjust your insulin to cover it. That is

not what I would recommend, but it could be done.

>>

February 6, 2002

This is true...and probably the reason many people connect insulin use with

weight gain. Because, of course, if you eat as much of whatever it is you

want and cover with insulin, if you eat more calories than you burn, you'll

gain weight. Pure and simple. Vicki

<<

One of the great things about injecting insulin is that you could eat pretty

much anything you want, and just adjust your insulin to cover it. That is

not what I would recommend, but it could be done.

>>

February 6, 2002

This is true...and probably the reason many people connect insulin use with

weight gain. Because, of course, if you eat as much of whatever it is you

want and cover with insulin, if you eat more calories than you burn, you'll

gain weight. Pure and simple. Vicki

<<

One of the great things about injecting insulin is that you could eat pretty

much anything you want, and just adjust your insulin to cover it. That is

not what I would recommend, but it could be done.

>>

February 6, 2002

> I had to laugh yesterday when I picked up the humalog at the pharmacy.

> There was a substitute pharmacist on duty. He saw that the prescription

was

> " use as directed " and was concerned about the dosage to be used. I

assured

> him that the doctor and I had discussed it and that I was fully aware of

how

> to use the stuff. I got the feeling that he was really uncomfortable

giving

> me the humalog and not being able to tell me exactly how much to take at

> each meal. Oh well, he'll get over it. :>)

***I'm sure it's because if you take too much and go way low, it potentially

can kill you. This is true with any insulin (and some meds as well).

Another reason for test, test, test and keep good notes.

Barb

February 6, 2002

> I had to laugh yesterday when I picked up the humalog at the pharmacy.

> There was a substitute pharmacist on duty. He saw that the prescription

was

> " use as directed " and was concerned about the dosage to be used. I

assured

> him that the doctor and I had discussed it and that I was fully aware of

how

> to use the stuff. I got the feeling that he was really uncomfortable

giving

> me the humalog and not being able to tell me exactly how much to take at

> each meal. Oh well, he'll get over it. :>)

***I'm sure it's because if you take too much and go way low, it potentially

can kill you. This is true with any insulin (and some meds as well).

Another reason for test, test, test and keep good notes.

Barb

February 6, 2002

> I had to laugh yesterday when I picked up the humalog at the pharmacy.

> There was a substitute pharmacist on duty. He saw that the prescription

was

> " use as directed " and was concerned about the dosage to be used. I

assured

> him that the doctor and I had discussed it and that I was fully aware of

how

> to use the stuff. I got the feeling that he was really uncomfortable

giving

> me the humalog and not being able to tell me exactly how much to take at

> each meal. Oh well, he'll get over it. :>)

***I'm sure it's because if you take too much and go way low, it potentially

can kill you. This is true with any insulin (and some meds as well).

Another reason for test, test, test and keep good notes.

Barb

February 6, 2002

Bill wrote:

> I started last night with 5 units of humalog. My BG's were down

> somewhat 2 hours after the meal (143 compared to 175 before), but not

> as far as I want. I may stay with 5 units for a few days, eating

> basically the same meals, to see how the numbers work out and then

> increase as needed.

Bill, that sounds like a good plan. When you do start increasing the

dosage, do increase it larger than two units at a time... In other

words, bump your 5 units to 7, 6 units to 8, 8 to 10, etc. You will

notice a change in your readings each time you make a change in the

units. You just want to make sure that you don't " overshoot " and wind up

seriously low.

Good luck with the Humalog. It has made a huge difference for me. I have

have several readings in the 90's recently and quite a few in the low

100 - 110 range. This is down from high 100's to mid 200's earlier this

year. I really like the convenience of it too. It has gone very well,

except last night. I was fixing dinner as my wife is still trying to get

over pneumonia. I was so busy getting everything ready and on the table

that I forgot to take my shot. I had just put one piece of baked ham in

my mouth when I remembered! Thankfully, with Humalog, I was able to run

and take a shot and come right back and eat. Try that with " Regular " !

Rick

February 6, 2002