Re: to all my friends.. from tonya

[Guest guest]

Im not real familiar, is that on the east or west side? I used to live on the

west side. on Washington st.

torran porter wrote:I live in Indianapolis in Pike township if you are

familiar with that side of town

--- jodi edwards wrote:

>

> Hi Torran, I was wondering what part of IN you are

> in? I just moved from sville, to Radcliff,

> Ky. Was just wondering..thanks, Jodi

> torran porter wrote:Hi my please let me add my

> 2cents and hope that this

> advice helps. I am going to school to be a paralegal

> so this is familiar to me. In the state of Ind the

> court will consider a childs wishes at the age of

> 14.

> You may want to check into what your states laws are

> concerning this. Your second option is to go to the

> court and ask for them to assign a child advocate.

> The

> advocate acts on the childs best interest only and

> will advise the court as to the best placement for

> the

> child or whatever the case may be. The only

> disadvantages to this are that it is time consuming

> while the advocate spends time with the child

> investigating and it can be a little more

> expenseive.

> I hope that this helps you. Love Torranp

> --- blondie_alyssa wrote:

> > Kar,

> > Here the age is 12 also, but most of the

> judges

> > around will

> > start taking the kids choices into consideration

> at

> > around 9 or 10.

> > I really think that the children should have a

> > choice on where they

> > want to live at any age. That is as long as

> neither

> > parent is

> > abusive. At that point, I think that the judge

> > should take it into

> > his/her hands.

> > I think that it's terrible how people use

> child

> > protective

> > services now. The people that they need to be

> > investigated never

> > are. The ones who try to be good parents and

> bring

> > their kid up

> > right are always the first ones that they bother.

>

> > I'm sorry. I know that this is extremely

> hard

> > on you. I would

> > die if I didn't have my kids. They literally

> drive

> > me insain at

> > times, but I love them. They are my life. I

> > wouldn't trade them in

> > for anything.

> > Hugs and Blessings,

> > H.

> >

> >

> > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > counting the

> > days.....The other

> > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found out

> > that their

> > babysitter.....a

> > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng them

> > in the face and

> > pulling the

> > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> our

> > local

> > police......and

> > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > there isn`t a thing

> > i can do

> > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> eardrum,

> > sad isn`t it?

> > But yet when

> > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > clothes { the in

> > style } not

> > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in that

> > and i got child

> > abuse called

> > > and they came to investigate, tell me how that

> > compares to

> > slapping and

> > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands are

> > tied, there isn`t

> > a thing i

> > > can do till they all reach 12......And it seems

> > like forever, plus

> > i lose all

> > > these years in beteen.

> > > Kar

> > >

> > > Thanks for listening

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Cool! Maybe we can get together sometime. my email

address is torranp@... I just moved from 46th

and Pendleton Pike about 6months ago.

--- gymnast862001 wrote:

> I livein Indianapolis, on the eastside, Warren

> Township, Small

> world! Tracie

>

>

>

>

> > > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > > counting the

> > > > days.....The other

> > > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> out

> > > > that their

> > > > babysitter.....a

> > > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> them

> > > > in the face and

> > > > pulling the

> > > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse

> and

> > > our

> > > > local

> > > > police......and

> > > > > because the father agrees ith the

> punishment,

> > > > there isn`t a thing

> > > > i can do

> > > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > > eardrum,

> > > > sad isn`t it?

> > > > But yet when

> > > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > > clothes { the in

> > > > style } not

> > > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> that

> > > > and i got child

> > > > abuse called

> > > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> that

> > > > compares to

> > > > slapping and

> > > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> are

> > > > tied, there isn`t

> > > > a thing i

> > > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> seems

> > > > like forever, plus

> > > > i lose all

> > > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > > Kar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Cool! Maybe we can get together sometime. my email

address is torranp@... I just moved from 46th

and Pendleton Pike about 6months ago.

--- gymnast862001 wrote:

> I livein Indianapolis, on the eastside, Warren

> Township, Small

> world! Tracie

>

>

>

>

> > > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > > counting the

> > > > days.....The other

> > > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> out

> > > > that their

> > > > babysitter.....a

> > > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> them

> > > > in the face and

> > > > pulling the

> > > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse

> and

> > > our

> > > > local

> > > > police......and

> > > > > because the father agrees ith the

> punishment,

> > > > there isn`t a thing

> > > > i can do

> > > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > > eardrum,

> > > > sad isn`t it?

> > > > But yet when

> > > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > > clothes { the in

> > > > style } not

> > > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> that

> > > > and i got child

> > > > abuse called

> > > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> that

> > > > compares to

> > > > slapping and

> > > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> are

> > > > tied, there isn`t

> > > > a thing i

> > > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> seems

> > > > like forever, plus

> > > > i lose all

> > > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > > Kar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Its on the west side close to Lafayette Square Mall.

--- jodi edwards wrote:

>

> Im not real familiar, is that on the east or west

> side? I used to live on the west side. on

> Washington st.

> torran porter wrote:I live in Indianapolis in Pike

> township if you are

> familiar with that side of town

> --- jodi edwards

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Torran, I was wondering what part of IN you are

> > in? I just moved from sville, to Radcliff,

> > Ky. Was just wondering..thanks, Jodi

> > torran porter wrote:Hi my please let me add my

> > 2cents and hope that this

> > advice helps. I am going to school to be a

> paralegal

> > so this is familiar to me. In the state of Ind the

> > court will consider a childs wishes at the age of

> > 14.

> > You may want to check into what your states laws

> are

> > concerning this. Your second option is to go to

> the

> > court and ask for them to assign a child advocate.

> > The

> > advocate acts on the childs best interest only and

> > will advise the court as to the best placement for

> > the

> > child or whatever the case may be. The only

> > disadvantages to this are that it is time

> consuming

> > while the advocate spends time with the child

> > investigating and it can be a little more

> > expenseive.

> > I hope that this helps you. Love Torranp

> > --- blondie_alyssa

> wrote:

> > > Kar,

> > > Here the age is 12 also, but most of the

> > judges

> > > around will

> > > start taking the kids choices into consideration

> > at

> > > around 9 or 10.

> > > I really think that the children should have a

> > > choice on where they

> > > want to live at any age. That is as long as

> > neither

> > > parent is

> > > abusive. At that point, I think that the judge

> > > should take it into

> > > his/her hands.

> > > I think that it's terrible how people use

> > child

> > > protective

> > > services now. The people that they need to be

> > > investigated never

> > > are. The ones who try to be good parents and

> > bring

> > > their kid up

> > > right are always the first ones that they

> bother.

> >

> > > I'm sorry. I know that this is extremely

> > hard

> > > on you. I would

> > > die if I didn't have my kids. They literally

> > drive

> > > me insain at

> > > times, but I love them. They are my life. I

> > > wouldn't trade them in

> > > for anything.

> > > Hugs and Blessings,

> > > H.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > counting the

> > > days.....The other

> > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> out

> > > that their

> > > babysitter.....a

> > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> them

> > > in the face and

> > > pulling the

> > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > our

> > > local

> > > police......and

> > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > there isn`t a thing

> > > i can do

> > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > eardrum,

> > > sad isn`t it?

> > > But yet when

> > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > clothes { the in

> > > style } not

> > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> that

> > > and i got child

> > > abuse called

> > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> that

> > > compares to

> > > slapping and

> > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> are

> > > tied, there isn`t

> > > a thing i

> > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> seems

> > > like forever, plus

> > > i lose all

> > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > Kar

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for listening

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Its on the west side close to Lafayette Square Mall.

--- jodi edwards wrote:

>

> Im not real familiar, is that on the east or west

> side? I used to live on the west side. on

> Washington st.

> torran porter wrote:I live in Indianapolis in Pike

> township if you are

> familiar with that side of town

> --- jodi edwards

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Torran, I was wondering what part of IN you are

> > in? I just moved from sville, to Radcliff,

> > Ky. Was just wondering..thanks, Jodi

> > torran porter wrote:Hi my please let me add my

> > 2cents and hope that this

> > advice helps. I am going to school to be a

> paralegal

> > so this is familiar to me. In the state of Ind the

> > court will consider a childs wishes at the age of

> > 14.

> > You may want to check into what your states laws

> are

> > concerning this. Your second option is to go to

> the

> > court and ask for them to assign a child advocate.

> > The

> > advocate acts on the childs best interest only and

> > will advise the court as to the best placement for

> > the

> > child or whatever the case may be. The only

> > disadvantages to this are that it is time

> consuming

> > while the advocate spends time with the child

> > investigating and it can be a little more

> > expenseive.

> > I hope that this helps you. Love Torranp

> > --- blondie_alyssa

> wrote:

> > > Kar,

> > > Here the age is 12 also, but most of the

> > judges

> > > around will

> > > start taking the kids choices into consideration

> > at

> > > around 9 or 10.

> > > I really think that the children should have a

> > > choice on where they

> > > want to live at any age. That is as long as

> > neither

> > > parent is

> > > abusive. At that point, I think that the judge

> > > should take it into

> > > his/her hands.

> > > I think that it's terrible how people use

> > child

> > > protective

> > > services now. The people that they need to be

> > > investigated never

> > > are. The ones who try to be good parents and

> > bring

> > > their kid up

> > > right are always the first ones that they

> bother.

> >

> > > I'm sorry. I know that this is extremely

> > hard

> > > on you. I would

> > > die if I didn't have my kids. They literally

> > drive

> > > me insain at

> > > times, but I love them. They are my life. I

> > > wouldn't trade them in

> > > for anything.

> > > Hugs and Blessings,

> > > H.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > counting the

> > > days.....The other

> > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> out

> > > that their

> > > babysitter.....a

> > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> them

> > > in the face and

> > > pulling the

> > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > our

> > > local

> > > police......and

> > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > there isn`t a thing

> > > i can do

> > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > eardrum,

> > > sad isn`t it?

> > > But yet when

> > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > clothes { the in

> > > style } not

> > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> that

> > > and i got child

> > > abuse called

> > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> that

> > > compares to

> > > slapping and

> > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> are

> > > tied, there isn`t

> > > a thing i

> > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> seems

> > > like forever, plus

> > > i lose all

> > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > Kar

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for listening

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Its on the west side close to Lafayette Square Mall.

--- jodi edwards wrote:

>

> Im not real familiar, is that on the east or west

> side? I used to live on the west side. on

> Washington st.

> torran porter wrote:I live in Indianapolis in Pike

> township if you are

> familiar with that side of town

> --- jodi edwards

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Torran, I was wondering what part of IN you are

> > in? I just moved from sville, to Radcliff,

> > Ky. Was just wondering..thanks, Jodi

> > torran porter wrote:Hi my please let me add my

> > 2cents and hope that this

> > advice helps. I am going to school to be a

> paralegal

> > so this is familiar to me. In the state of Ind the

> > court will consider a childs wishes at the age of

> > 14.

> > You may want to check into what your states laws

> are

> > concerning this. Your second option is to go to

> the

> > court and ask for them to assign a child advocate.

> > The

> > advocate acts on the childs best interest only and

> > will advise the court as to the best placement for

> > the

> > child or whatever the case may be. The only

> > disadvantages to this are that it is time

> consuming

> > while the advocate spends time with the child

> > investigating and it can be a little more

> > expenseive.

> > I hope that this helps you. Love Torranp

> > --- blondie_alyssa

> wrote:

> > > Kar,

> > > Here the age is 12 also, but most of the

> > judges

> > > around will

> > > start taking the kids choices into consideration

> > at

> > > around 9 or 10.

> > > I really think that the children should have a

> > > choice on where they

> > > want to live at any age. That is as long as

> > neither

> > > parent is

> > > abusive. At that point, I think that the judge

> > > should take it into

> > > his/her hands.

> > > I think that it's terrible how people use

> > child

> > > protective

> > > services now. The people that they need to be

> > > investigated never

> > > are. The ones who try to be good parents and

> > bring

> > > their kid up

> > > right are always the first ones that they

> bother.

> >

> > > I'm sorry. I know that this is extremely

> > hard

> > > on you. I would

> > > die if I didn't have my kids. They literally

> > drive

> > > me insain at

> > > times, but I love them. They are my life. I

> > > wouldn't trade them in

> > > for anything.

> > > Hugs and Blessings,

> > > H.

> > >

> > >

> > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > counting the

> > > days.....The other

> > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> out

> > > that their

> > > babysitter.....a

> > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> them

> > > in the face and

> > > pulling the

> > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > our

> > > local

> > > police......and

> > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > there isn`t a thing

> > > i can do

> > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > eardrum,

> > > sad isn`t it?

> > > But yet when

> > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > clothes { the in

> > > style } not

> > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> that

> > > and i got child

> > > abuse called

> > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> that

> > > compares to

> > > slapping and

> > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> are

> > > tied, there isn`t

> > > a thing i

> > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> seems

> > > like forever, plus

> > > i lose all

> > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > Kar

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for listening

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

That would be cool, I only live a couple blocks away from Washington

Sq. Mall. I am hoping to get this get together thing (Indiana gals)

going once we can get a date every one can make. Tracie

> > > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > > counting the

> > > > days.....The other

> > > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> > out

> > > > that their

> > > > babysitter.....a

> > > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> > them

> > > > in the face and

> > > > pulling the

> > > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > > our

> > > > local

> > > > police......and

> > > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > > there isn`t a thing

> > > > i can do

> > > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > > eardrum,

> > > > sad isn`t it?

> > > > But yet when

> > > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > > clothes { the in

> > > > style } not

> > > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> > that

> > > > and i got child

> > > > abuse called

> > > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> > that

> > > > compares to

> > > > slapping and

> > > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> > are

> > > > tied, there isn`t

> > > > a thing i

> > > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> > seems

> > > > like forever, plus

> > > > i lose all

> > > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > > Kar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

That would be cool, I only live a couple blocks away from Washington

Sq. Mall. I am hoping to get this get together thing (Indiana gals)

going once we can get a date every one can make. Tracie

> > > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > > counting the

> > > > days.....The other

> > > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> > out

> > > > that their

> > > > babysitter.....a

> > > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> > them

> > > > in the face and

> > > > pulling the

> > > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > > our

> > > > local

> > > > police......and

> > > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > > there isn`t a thing

> > > > i can do

> > > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > > eardrum,

> > > > sad isn`t it?

> > > > But yet when

> > > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > > clothes { the in

> > > > style } not

> > > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> > that

> > > > and i got child

> > > > abuse called

> > > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> > that

> > > > compares to

> > > > slapping and

> > > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> > are

> > > > tied, there isn`t

> > > > a thing i

> > > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> > seems

> > > > like forever, plus

> > > > i lose all

> > > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > > Kar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Im originaly from Indiana, any chance I could go??? hehehe, Im only 2.5 hours

away..and I take the girls to meet their dad every other week..so let me know

the date as well...thanks.....Jodi..KY

gymnast862001 wrote:That would be cool, I only live a couple blocks away from

Washington

Sq. Mall. I am hoping to get this get together thing (Indiana gals)

going once we can get a date every one can make. Tracie

> > > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > > counting the

> > > > days.....The other

> > > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> > out

> > > > that their

> > > > babysitter.....a

> > > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> > them

> > > > in the face and

> > > > pulling the

> > > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > > our

> > > > local

> > > > police......and

> > > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > > there isn`t a thing

> > > > i can do

> > > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > > eardrum,

> > > > sad isn`t it?

> > > > But yet when

> > > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > > clothes { the in

> > > > style } not

> > > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> > that

> > > > and i got child

> > > > abuse called

> > > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> > that

> > > > compares to

> > > > slapping and

> > > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> > are

> > > > tied, there isn`t

> > > > a thing i

> > > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> > seems

> > > > like forever, plus

> > > > i lose all

> > > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > > Kar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Im originaly from Indiana, any chance I could go??? hehehe, Im only 2.5 hours

away..and I take the girls to meet their dad every other week..so let me know

the date as well...thanks.....Jodi..KY

gymnast862001 wrote:That would be cool, I only live a couple blocks away from

Washington

Sq. Mall. I am hoping to get this get together thing (Indiana gals)

going once we can get a date every one can make. Tracie

> > > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > > counting the

> > > > days.....The other

> > > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> > out

> > > > that their

> > > > babysitter.....a

> > > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> > them

> > > > in the face and

> > > > pulling the

> > > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > > our

> > > > local

> > > > police......and

> > > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > > there isn`t a thing

> > > > i can do

> > > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > > eardrum,

> > > > sad isn`t it?

> > > > But yet when

> > > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > > clothes { the in

> > > > style } not

> > > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> > that

> > > > and i got child

> > > > abuse called

> > > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> > that

> > > > compares to

> > > > slapping and

> > > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> > are

> > > > tied, there isn`t

> > > > a thing i

> > > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> > seems

> > > > like forever, plus

> > > > i lose all

> > > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > > Kar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Im originaly from Indiana, any chance I could go??? hehehe, Im only 2.5 hours

away..and I take the girls to meet their dad every other week..so let me know

the date as well...thanks.....Jodi..KY

gymnast862001 wrote:That would be cool, I only live a couple blocks away from

Washington

Sq. Mall. I am hoping to get this get together thing (Indiana gals)

going once we can get a date every one can make. Tracie

> > > > > Here the age is 12, and trust me.....He is

> > > > counting the

> > > > days.....The other

> > > > > ones are way too young yet. I recently found

> > out

> > > > that their

> > > > babysitter.....a

> > > > > retired pre-school teacher has been slappng

> > them

> > > > in the face and

> > > > pulling the

> > > > > boys by their ears....I called child abuse and

> > > our

> > > > local

> > > > police......and

> > > > > because the father agrees ith the punishment,

> > > > there isn`t a thing

> > > > i can do

> > > > > until she leaves a mark or ruptures their

> > > eardrum,

> > > > sad isn`t it?

> > > > But yet when

> > > > > my 10 yr old was 6 i let him wear the baggy

> > > > clothes { the in

> > > > style } not

> > > > > hanging off his butt....i don`t believe in

> > that

> > > > and i got child

> > > > abuse called

> > > > > and they came to investigate, tell me how

> > that

> > > > compares to

> > > > slapping and

> > > > > pulling ears. I`m so at loss......My hands

> > are

> > > > tied, there isn`t

> > > > a thing i

> > > > > can do till they all reach 12......And it

> > seems

> > > > like forever, plus

> > > > i lose all

> > > > > these years in beteen.

> > > > > Kar

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

,

First of all you need to deal with the depression. I know you miss your

children however it seems at this point in time....that cant be changed the

way the order is. I would suggest to make the best of it for now.....get

yourself together........Keep having those visits with your children as often

as you can.....let the courts see you are a caring mother who cares about her

children. IN the meantime are you thinking about having a reversal? If so

start making your plans to do such. I am sure if your mate says its ok on not

having any children he means that...however I am sure you are right in that

he really wants one. I have a wonderful man in my life and I want more than

ever to give him a child however my biological clock is working against me as

I dont have 6500.00 laying around to grab so I have to save or borrow. I cant

seem to get my paperwork from the hospital where my DR done the

surgery...they say they cant find it...so far. Back to

you......Sorry.......Set your goals down on paper where you can see them and

work toward accomplishing those goals....At this point try to figure out what

is most important to you.....write it down.....set it as a goal...and do what

needs to be done to accomplish that goal. Let your kids know you love them

all the time....show the courts you do.....maybe a miracle will happen and

youll get your kids back. God works in mysterious ways. Buy the way, If you

can.....Get off those pills for depression......that stuff can only harm you

more. I was on meds like that with first marriage.....not a good thing! I

will be praying for you as I hope all the other ladies will be too. Have a

good day and dont hesitate to post.

Wanda

[Guest guest]

,

First of all you need to deal with the depression. I know you miss your

children however it seems at this point in time....that cant be changed the

way the order is. I would suggest to make the best of it for now.....get

yourself together........Keep having those visits with your children as often

as you can.....let the courts see you are a caring mother who cares about her

children. IN the meantime are you thinking about having a reversal? If so

start making your plans to do such. I am sure if your mate says its ok on not

having any children he means that...however I am sure you are right in that

he really wants one. I have a wonderful man in my life and I want more than

ever to give him a child however my biological clock is working against me as

I dont have 6500.00 laying around to grab so I have to save or borrow. I cant

seem to get my paperwork from the hospital where my DR done the

surgery...they say they cant find it...so far. Back to

you......Sorry.......Set your goals down on paper where you can see them and

work toward accomplishing those goals....At this point try to figure out what

is most important to you.....write it down.....set it as a goal...and do what

needs to be done to accomplish that goal. Let your kids know you love them

all the time....show the courts you do.....maybe a miracle will happen and

youll get your kids back. God works in mysterious ways. Buy the way, If you

can.....Get off those pills for depression......that stuff can only harm you

more. I was on meds like that with first marriage.....not a good thing! I

will be praying for you as I hope all the other ladies will be too. Have a

good day and dont hesitate to post.

Wanda

[Guest guest]

,

First of all you need to deal with the depression. I know you miss your

children however it seems at this point in time....that cant be changed the

way the order is. I would suggest to make the best of it for now.....get

yourself together........Keep having those visits with your children as often

as you can.....let the courts see you are a caring mother who cares about her

children. IN the meantime are you thinking about having a reversal? If so

start making your plans to do such. I am sure if your mate says its ok on not

having any children he means that...however I am sure you are right in that

he really wants one. I have a wonderful man in my life and I want more than

ever to give him a child however my biological clock is working against me as

I dont have 6500.00 laying around to grab so I have to save or borrow. I cant

seem to get my paperwork from the hospital where my DR done the

surgery...they say they cant find it...so far. Back to

you......Sorry.......Set your goals down on paper where you can see them and

work toward accomplishing those goals....At this point try to figure out what

is most important to you.....write it down.....set it as a goal...and do what

needs to be done to accomplish that goal. Let your kids know you love them

all the time....show the courts you do.....maybe a miracle will happen and

youll get your kids back. God works in mysterious ways. Buy the way, If you

can.....Get off those pills for depression......that stuff can only harm you

more. I was on meds like that with first marriage.....not a good thing! I

will be praying for you as I hope all the other ladies will be too. Have a

good day and dont hesitate to post.

Wanda

[Guest guest]

That is child abuse.....what state do you live in.......

If the father agrees to that he is as guilty of child abuse as the person

doing it...

Wanda

[Guest guest]

Your Childrens Guardian Ad litem is supposed to be for the children and what

is in their best interests.

Do you or did you have an attorney?

Make sure you keep involved with your children at this point!

What state are you from?

Wanda

[Guest guest]

Your Childrens Guardian Ad litem is supposed to be for the children and what

is in their best interests.

Do you or did you have an attorney?

Make sure you keep involved with your children at this point!

What state are you from?

Wanda

[Guest guest]

Your Childrens Guardian Ad litem is supposed to be for the children and what

is in their best interests.

Do you or did you have an attorney?

Make sure you keep involved with your children at this point!

What state are you from?

Wanda

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for listening, so far you have all been wonderful

friends......For those of you that are on aol.......Please email me your

screen names or even have aim......If you are on aol, i`m going to make up a

private chat just for us ladies.......I think we could learn alot more

through a chat then waiting for e-mails......I`ll let all you that have aol

what the name of the room is and send you the link.

I`m still trying to figure out how to modify my e-mails to be able to go to

the boards, i have been going at it for the past hour, i`m getting stressed

lmao

Kar

[Guest guest]

Kar

Like you i too had the same problems. If i did not know any better i would say

we married the same man. i cry too. i have the money to have the surgery but my

dear husband is hurting because he still has to deal with the ex husband. no

matter what we do or try we can't get rid of the ex. i feel your pain and all i

can say is hang in there. once you are married your ex has less control over you

and there is little he can do to hurt you. you will be in my prayers. with love

i send.

Looper

Re: to all my friends.. from tonya

This is my first posting

I`m ......My first daughter passed away only a day after she was born in

1991, then i`ve had 3 boys ages 10, 8, 6 and a 4 yr odl daughter......The day

i had my daughter in July 1998 my then husband gave me a choice.....Tie my

tubes or he was leaving, i chose to have them tied.

Needless to say we seperated in 1999 and he told so many lies and had so many

friends testify that i was an unfit mother all over 1 cup of spilled milk out

back, said i wasn`t watching my children when in fact i came in for some

water.

He got the house, the cars and our children. I am now engaged to a wonderful

man and talk of having a child has come up, only that neither of our

insurances cover it.

I have been on depression meds sin August of 2001 because i can`t afford to

give him a child, he says he is fine with it....But i know deep down he wants

one of his own.

I cry at night from not being able to kiss my kids goodnight, say their

prayers and tuck them in....I see them every other Fri-Sat, and every Wed

from 4-8.....He is now trying to take overnights away saying that it`s

traumatizing the kids being away from him and their own beds. But when they

are here they don`t ask for him at all ad cry when they have to go home. He

has even made it so that my fiance cannot take them to the store or park

without me.......Said he abuses them and everything that he tried to pin on

my fiance has failed but the judge won`t change the court orders. I`m so torn

in 2.......I want my children and i want 1 more..........Does anyone have any

words of advice??????

Kar

[Guest guest]

Kar-

Welcome to our family. You asked for advice. Start new today. Start your

journey, See Dr Levins and Bd like crazy lol and remember we all care about you

and we are here for you.

-30

DH- Rick Sr.- 30

DS- Ricky- 11

DD- Brittany-10

DD- Clarissa-9

FD- le - 5

Re: to all my friends.. from tonya

This is my first posting

I`m ......My first daughter passed away only a day after she was born in

1991, then i`ve had 3 boys ages 10, 8, 6 and a 4 yr odl daughter......The day

i had my daughter in July 1998 my then husband gave me a choice.....Tie my

tubes or he was leaving, i chose to have them tied.

Needless to say we seperated in 1999 and he told so many lies and had so many

friends testify that i was an unfit mother all over 1 cup of spilled milk out

back, said i wasn`t watching my children when in fact i came in for some

water.

He got the house, the cars and our children. I am now engaged to a wonderful

man and talk of having a child has come up, only that neither of our

insurances cover it.

I have been on depression meds sin August of 2001 because i can`t afford to

give him a child, he says he is fine with it....But i know deep down he wants

one of his own.

I cry at night from not being able to kiss my kids goodnight, say their

prayers and tuck them in....I see them every other Fri-Sat, and every Wed

from 4-8.....He is now trying to take overnights away saying that it`s

traumatizing the kids being away from him and their own beds. But when they

are here they don`t ask for him at all ad cry when they have to go home. He

has even made it so that my fiance cannot take them to the store or park

without me.......Said he abuses them and everything that he tried to pin on

my fiance has failed but the judge won`t change the court orders. I`m so torn

in 2.......I want my children and i want 1 more..........Does anyone have any

words of advice??????

Kar

[Guest guest]

Kar-

Welcome to our family. You asked for advice. Start new today. Start your

journey, See Dr Levins and Bd like crazy lol and remember we all care about you

and we are here for you.

-30

DH- Rick Sr.- 30

DS- Ricky- 11

DD- Brittany-10

DD- Clarissa-9

FD- le - 5

Re: to all my friends.. from tonya

This is my first posting

I`m ......My first daughter passed away only a day after she was born in

1991, then i`ve had 3 boys ages 10, 8, 6 and a 4 yr odl daughter......The day

i had my daughter in July 1998 my then husband gave me a choice.....Tie my

tubes or he was leaving, i chose to have them tied.

Needless to say we seperated in 1999 and he told so many lies and had so many

friends testify that i was an unfit mother all over 1 cup of spilled milk out

back, said i wasn`t watching my children when in fact i came in for some

water.

He got the house, the cars and our children. I am now engaged to a wonderful

man and talk of having a child has come up, only that neither of our

insurances cover it.

I have been on depression meds sin August of 2001 because i can`t afford to

give him a child, he says he is fine with it....But i know deep down he wants

one of his own.

I cry at night from not being able to kiss my kids goodnight, say their

prayers and tuck them in....I see them every other Fri-Sat, and every Wed

from 4-8.....He is now trying to take overnights away saying that it`s

traumatizing the kids being away from him and their own beds. But when they

are here they don`t ask for him at all ad cry when they have to go home. He

has even made it so that my fiance cannot take them to the store or park

without me.......Said he abuses them and everything that he tried to pin on

my fiance has failed but the judge won`t change the court orders. I`m so torn

in 2.......I want my children and i want 1 more..........Does anyone have any

words of advice??????

Kar

[Guest guest]

Kar-

Welcome to our family. You asked for advice. Start new today. Start your

journey, See Dr Levins and Bd like crazy lol and remember we all care about you

and we are here for you.

-30

DH- Rick Sr.- 30

DS- Ricky- 11

DD- Brittany-10

DD- Clarissa-9

FD- le - 5

Re: to all my friends.. from tonya

This is my first posting

I`m ......My first daughter passed away only a day after she was born in

1991, then i`ve had 3 boys ages 10, 8, 6 and a 4 yr odl daughter......The day

i had my daughter in July 1998 my then husband gave me a choice.....Tie my

tubes or he was leaving, i chose to have them tied.

Needless to say we seperated in 1999 and he told so many lies and had so many

friends testify that i was an unfit mother all over 1 cup of spilled milk out

back, said i wasn`t watching my children when in fact i came in for some

water.

He got the house, the cars and our children. I am now engaged to a wonderful

man and talk of having a child has come up, only that neither of our

insurances cover it.

I have been on depression meds sin August of 2001 because i can`t afford to

give him a child, he says he is fine with it....But i know deep down he wants

one of his own.

I cry at night from not being able to kiss my kids goodnight, say their

prayers and tuck them in....I see them every other Fri-Sat, and every Wed

from 4-8.....He is now trying to take overnights away saying that it`s

traumatizing the kids being away from him and their own beds. But when they

are here they don`t ask for him at all ad cry when they have to go home. He

has even made it so that my fiance cannot take them to the store or park

without me.......Said he abuses them and everything that he tried to pin on

my fiance has failed but the judge won`t change the court orders. I`m so torn

in 2.......I want my children and i want 1 more..........Does anyone have any

words of advice??????

Kar

[Guest guest]

my aol email address is torranp@...

--- missprincess71@... wrote:

> Thank you all for listening, so far you have all

> been wonderful

> friends......For those of you that are on

> aol.......Please email me your

> screen names or even have aim......If you are on

> aol, i`m going to make up a

> private chat just for us ladies.......I think we

> could learn alot more

> through a chat then waiting for e-mails......I`ll

> let all you that have aol

> what the name of the room is and send you the link.

> I`m still trying to figure out how to modify my

> e-mails to be able to go to

> the boards, i have been going at it for the past

> hour, i`m getting stressed

> lmao

> Kar

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

my aol email address is torranp@...

--- missprincess71@... wrote:

> Thank you all for listening, so far you have all

> been wonderful

> friends......For those of you that are on

> aol.......Please email me your

> screen names or even have aim......If you are on

> aol, i`m going to make up a

> private chat just for us ladies.......I think we

> could learn alot more

> through a chat then waiting for e-mails......I`ll

> let all you that have aol

> what the name of the room is and send you the link.

> I`m still trying to figure out how to modify my

> e-mails to be able to go to

> the boards, i have been going at it for the past

> hour, i`m getting stressed

> lmao

> Kar

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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