Re: Brand new to all this!!

[Guest guest]

The Cafe is another group that and I set up.. just so we have a place to go gossip or to follow a thread that isnt' exactly thyroid related... oh, and share jokes.... The idea is to keep this group a bit more focused for those that have limited time or endurance and can't spend effort and time sorting through a lot of off topic posts.

Topper ()http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTSG_Cafe/

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:49:24 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Well I don't know where the cafe is but will find it if I decide to go off topic.

[Guest guest]

The Cafe is another group that and I set up.. just so we have a place to go gossip or to follow a thread that isnt' exactly thyroid related... oh, and share jokes.... The idea is to keep this group a bit more focused for those that have limited time or endurance and can't spend effort and time sorting through a lot of off topic posts.

Topper ()http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTSG_Cafe/

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:49:24 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Well I don't know where the cafe is but will find it if I decide to go off topic.

[Guest guest]

Hi Topper

Thanks for the info! My surgeon DID advise me to talk to my primary

care physician and I am thinking that just because someone does an

excellent job of chopping a big mass out of my neck <G> doesn't

necessarily mean he is such an expert at the other part. I *know*

what I felt!! I think I will ask my primary care doctor for a

referral -- but not sure just what kind of doctor to ask her for. I

guarantee you ONE thing... I will NOT sit around and put up with the

kind of symptoms I've had the past couple years without a fight.

I appreciate the input and " education. "

Sue

> Sue, About the TSH levels. What you have to keep in mind is that

the TSH

> level alone is a piss poor indicator of what your hormone levels

are. TSH

> is the Thyroid Stimulating hormone, released by the pituitary

gland its

> the instructions for your thyroid that it needs to increase or

decrease

> production. It is NOT an indicator of actual thyroid levels.

>

> See, I'm trying to keep my prejudice down, but..... the TSH tests

came to

> being as the 'quick and easy' test to use when the synthetics came

on to

> the market. Before that patients were treated with natural thyroid,

> according to symptoms. But the makers of the synthetics sold their

wares

> with this great new test to make it a 'no brainer' to determine

proper

> dosage.

>

> Problem is... TSH levels can vary from person to person for what

normal

> is. The 'normal' ranges were determined by testing levels of,

someone

> jump in here, I believe it was twenty or thirty men in a

Scandinavian

> country..... So, please, tell me what the blood levels of a

couple of

> dozen MEN in ONE geographic region has to do with a disorder that

affects

> mostly WOMEN in geographic regions that SPAN THE ENTIRE PLANET?

>

> A TSH level of Zero, theoretically would mean that the gland

needed to

> produce not at all.... from there, the larger the number the

louder the

> pituitary is hollering for more production. For some, that shout

is not

> loud.. but the thyroid hormone is still low. That is why it is

soooo

> necessary to test the Free T4 and the Free T3 in the blood to

determine

> how much thyroid hormone is actually available.

>

> Doctors that have been trained since the synthetics have come into

being

> are not learning that TSH is only a partial answer, they are not

learning

> that symptoms as important, if not, more important, than labs.

They are

> not learning exactly what TSH really means... The are taking

the 'easy

> way out' for a problem that they just never really received

adequate

> training for.

>

> I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad about their docs.. I just

hope to

> help more folks to understand that we have to be aware of how all

of this

> works, and should work, so that we can help our docs to help us.

We are

> the ones that this affects. It affects ALL parts of our lives.

>

> Just because we are kept alive does not mean that the quality of

life

> that we have been left with has much value.

>

> How many of us have been misdiagnosed, undertreated or diagnosed

and then

> not treated at all? How many of us have lead lives where the

simple tasks

> of day to day living becomes gargantuan effort to attempt?

>

> Crap... I'm ranting..... Boiled down, Sue.. you're not crazy. The

surgeon

> is not clear on what is all involved with determining proper

thyroid

> hormone levels.

>

> You have been feeling better since the surgery, that means that

you were

> right, the issue has to do with thyroid. Now it's up to you to be

sure

> that you are tested and monitored correctly to keep healthy and

have a

> FANTASTIC life and not just exist.

>

> I'll try to be good today.. but I think I woke up with an

attitude..

> sorry about that....

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:48:36 -0000 " Sue " <dance4joy7@h...> writes:

> Yes, I agree... I work for a wonderful company!!

>

> I am a bit discouraged at the moment. I just talked to my surgeon

> and good news is my TSH levels are normal... 2.85 so right in

range.

> BUT he said since they were also normal before the surgery I

should

> not have had any of the symptoms and that other things such as

> depression could also cause those symptoms! SHEESH! This is what I

> have heard from people for the past two years!!! I KNOW how I

> felt... also I asked why I feel so much better since the surgery

and

> he didn't have an explanation but said if I have more symptoms to

> talk to my primary care doctor and have her do additional tests.

>

> He is an awesome surgeon though!!! Just in effect being told

> again that I am crazy didn't set very well LOL

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Topper

I think it is probably because there are so many " jokes " out there

about weight being blamed on thyroid, etc. that lots of us have

learned not to take thyroid problems seriously. In fact when I was

diagnosed we were laughing at work about how we all say our weight

is because of our thyroid and that some people really DO have

problems. I am one of them and I can prove it. <GGGG>

I will try to use caution and not get on a soapbox to people... but

I WILL suggest they get checked if they have these problems!!

Sue

> It's almost kinda funny. Whenever I start talking about thyroid

stuff

> with folks that I don't know real well, they look me up and down

and you

> can just read the expression on their face 'so that's what your

problem

> is, sure glad that I don't have it!'

>

> I know a couple ladies that are presenting symptoms but they

happen to be

> slender, one is almost gaunt... so they are both sure that since

they are

> not big that the thyroid couldn't possibly be the cause of their

> problems...

>

> I know it gets old to have someone with a designated soap box

(who, me?)

> that runs around labeling everyone's problems the result of their

pet

> disease... I don't do that, I REALLY strive not to do that... but

> geeze... I run down the list of symptoms and are saying yes to

every one

> of them and then I say thyroid and they say NO WAY... I'm not fat!

>

> *sigh*

>

> I guess we can't do more than offer the suggestion that they be

> tested....

>

> *sigh*

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:56:13 -0000 " Sue " <dance4joy7@h...> writes:

> Hi and thanks for the encouragement. Yes, I do know they

need

> to test me for other hormone levels as well. And yes, Hashi's is

one

> of the things they want to keep an eye out for... as well as

calcium

> levels, hormones, etc. I don't have the lab results since the

> surgery yet... will probably get them tomorrow or so.

>

> Thanks for advice about the meals... fortunately I AM in the habit

> of eating breakfast. But yah now I am not going to have any

excuses

> for not losing weight huh? We were laughing at work that we

> always like to SAY we have a thyroid problem and that well... NOW

I

> really DO and I can prove it!!

>

> I return to work on Monday, and it will be easier to avoid the

> munchies than it has been slugging out around the house these past

> few weeks.

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Topper

I think it is probably because there are so many " jokes " out there

about weight being blamed on thyroid, etc. that lots of us have

learned not to take thyroid problems seriously. In fact when I was

diagnosed we were laughing at work about how we all say our weight

is because of our thyroid and that some people really DO have

problems. I am one of them and I can prove it. <GGGG>

I will try to use caution and not get on a soapbox to people... but

I WILL suggest they get checked if they have these problems!!

Sue

> It's almost kinda funny. Whenever I start talking about thyroid

stuff

> with folks that I don't know real well, they look me up and down

and you

> can just read the expression on their face 'so that's what your

problem

> is, sure glad that I don't have it!'

>

> I know a couple ladies that are presenting symptoms but they

happen to be

> slender, one is almost gaunt... so they are both sure that since

they are

> not big that the thyroid couldn't possibly be the cause of their

> problems...

>

> I know it gets old to have someone with a designated soap box

(who, me?)

> that runs around labeling everyone's problems the result of their

pet

> disease... I don't do that, I REALLY strive not to do that... but

> geeze... I run down the list of symptoms and are saying yes to

every one

> of them and then I say thyroid and they say NO WAY... I'm not fat!

>

> *sigh*

>

> I guess we can't do more than offer the suggestion that they be

> tested....

>

> *sigh*

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:56:13 -0000 " Sue " <dance4joy7@h...> writes:

> Hi and thanks for the encouragement. Yes, I do know they

need

> to test me for other hormone levels as well. And yes, Hashi's is

one

> of the things they want to keep an eye out for... as well as

calcium

> levels, hormones, etc. I don't have the lab results since the

> surgery yet... will probably get them tomorrow or so.

>

> Thanks for advice about the meals... fortunately I AM in the habit

> of eating breakfast. But yah now I am not going to have any

excuses

> for not losing weight huh? We were laughing at work that we

> always like to SAY we have a thyroid problem and that well... NOW

I

> really DO and I can prove it!!

>

> I return to work on Monday, and it will be easier to avoid the

> munchies than it has been slugging out around the house these past

> few weeks.

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

Great idea! I went over and submitted a membership application to

see what all of you are up to over there

> The Cafe is another group that and I set up.. just so we

have a

> place to go gossip or to follow a thread that isnt' exactly thyroid

> related... oh, and share jokes.... The idea is to keep this group

a bit

> more focused for those that have limited time or endurance and

can't

> spend effort and time sorting through a lot of off topic posts.

>

> Topper ()

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTSG_Cafe/

>

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:49:24 -0000 " Sue " <dance4joy7@h...> writes:

> Well I don't know where the cafe is but will find it if I decide

to

> go off topic.

[Guest guest]

SSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! Stop Talking about Sue now!She is there now at The

Cafe!!!!

Feisty*kicking up a bit*

Re: Brand new to all this!!

> Great idea! I went over and submitted a membership application to

> see what all of you are up to over there

>

>

> > The Cafe is another group that and I set up.. just so we

> have a

> > place to go gossip or to follow a thread that isnt' exactly thyroid

> > related... oh, and share jokes.... The idea is to keep this group

> a bit

> > more focused for those that have limited time or endurance and

> can't

> > spend effort and time sorting through a lot of off topic posts.

> >

> > Topper ()

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTSG_Cafe/

> >

> > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:49:24 -0000 " Sue " <dance4joy7@h...> writes:

> > Well I don't know where the cafe is but will find it if I decide

> to

> > go off topic.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That's okay! Talk about me all you want... I am not paranoid any

more. <GGGGG> Well at least not SO far... we shall see how it

lasts. <G>

> > > The Cafe is another group that and I set up.. just so we

> > have a

> > > place to go gossip or to follow a thread that isnt' exactly

thyroid

> > > related... oh, and share jokes.... The idea is to keep this

group

> > a bit

> > > more focused for those that have limited time or endurance and

> > can't

> > > spend effort and time sorting through a lot of off topic posts.

> > >

> > > Topper ()

> > > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TTSG_Cafe/

> > >

> > > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:49:24 -0000 " Sue " <dance4joy7@h...>

writes:

> > > Well I don't know where the cafe is but will find it if I

decide

> > to

> > > go off topic.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Good for you, Sue!!!!

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:44:32 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Hi TopperThanks for the info! My surgeon DID advise me to talk to my primary care physician and I am thinking that just because someone does an excellent job of chopping a big mass out of my neck <G> doesn't necessarily mean he is such an expert at the other part. I *know* what I felt!! I think I will ask my primary care doctor for a referral -- but not sure just what kind of doctor to ask her for. I guarantee you ONE thing... I will NOT sit around and put up with the kind of symptoms I've had the past couple years without a fight. :)I appreciate the input and "education."Sue

[Guest guest]

Good for you, Sue!!!!

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:44:32 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Hi TopperThanks for the info! My surgeon DID advise me to talk to my primary care physician and I am thinking that just because someone does an excellent job of chopping a big mass out of my neck <G> doesn't necessarily mean he is such an expert at the other part. I *know* what I felt!! I think I will ask my primary care doctor for a referral -- but not sure just what kind of doctor to ask her for. I guarantee you ONE thing... I will NOT sit around and put up with the kind of symptoms I've had the past couple years without a fight. :)I appreciate the input and "education."Sue

[Guest guest]

I think we get a lot further by example then we do by lecture....

Although.. for me, when I was in storm and absolutely positive that I was going insane... having someone go nose to nose with me and telling me what was wrong might have helped. I'd just given up.. the first doc said that nothing was wrong. Made me feel like I was out trolling for sympathy and making it all up..... That was just not me... but part of the thyroid being messed up is such a severe level of self doubt... and that is what we need to find back....

For me.. the crap I get now is that I'm taking meds, my still being fat is because I'm just lazy... Gosh.. if they had any idea at all of what it's like deal with olympian events like getting out of a chair to go to the bathroom AND making it all the way there... or taking a shower.... Maybe then they would be more understanding of how we are protective of our limitations and it has nothing to do with laziness or irresponsibility....

*sigh*

I have to remind myself of how far I have come in just two years. I have come a LONG LONG LONG way. Not just in my body, but in my mind. How I look at myself and feel about myself... that is just as profound as walking through the grocery store for the first time in five years without having to hang on to the shopping cart to keep from falling down from exhaustion.

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:53:52 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Hi TopperI think it is probably because there are so many "jokes" out there about weight being blamed on thyroid, etc. that lots of us have learned not to take thyroid problems seriously. In fact when I was diagnosed we were laughing at work about how we all say our weight is because of our thyroid and that some people really DO have problems. I am one of them and I can prove it. <GGGG>I will try to use caution and not get on a soapbox to people... but I WILL suggest they get checked if they have these problems!!Sue

[Guest guest]

I think we get a lot further by example then we do by lecture....

Although.. for me, when I was in storm and absolutely positive that I was going insane... having someone go nose to nose with me and telling me what was wrong might have helped. I'd just given up.. the first doc said that nothing was wrong. Made me feel like I was out trolling for sympathy and making it all up..... That was just not me... but part of the thyroid being messed up is such a severe level of self doubt... and that is what we need to find back....

For me.. the crap I get now is that I'm taking meds, my still being fat is because I'm just lazy... Gosh.. if they had any idea at all of what it's like deal with olympian events like getting out of a chair to go to the bathroom AND making it all the way there... or taking a shower.... Maybe then they would be more understanding of how we are protective of our limitations and it has nothing to do with laziness or irresponsibility....

*sigh*

I have to remind myself of how far I have come in just two years. I have come a LONG LONG LONG way. Not just in my body, but in my mind. How I look at myself and feel about myself... that is just as profound as walking through the grocery store for the first time in five years without having to hang on to the shopping cart to keep from falling down from exhaustion.

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:53:52 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Hi TopperI think it is probably because there are so many "jokes" out there about weight being blamed on thyroid, etc. that lots of us have learned not to take thyroid problems seriously. In fact when I was diagnosed we were laughing at work about how we all say our weight is because of our thyroid and that some people really DO have problems. I am one of them and I can prove it. <GGGG>I will try to use caution and not get on a soapbox to people... but I WILL suggest they get checked if they have these problems!!Sue

[Guest guest]

I think we get a lot further by example then we do by lecture....

Although.. for me, when I was in storm and absolutely positive that I was going insane... having someone go nose to nose with me and telling me what was wrong might have helped. I'd just given up.. the first doc said that nothing was wrong. Made me feel like I was out trolling for sympathy and making it all up..... That was just not me... but part of the thyroid being messed up is such a severe level of self doubt... and that is what we need to find back....

For me.. the crap I get now is that I'm taking meds, my still being fat is because I'm just lazy... Gosh.. if they had any idea at all of what it's like deal with olympian events like getting out of a chair to go to the bathroom AND making it all the way there... or taking a shower.... Maybe then they would be more understanding of how we are protective of our limitations and it has nothing to do with laziness or irresponsibility....

*sigh*

I have to remind myself of how far I have come in just two years. I have come a LONG LONG LONG way. Not just in my body, but in my mind. How I look at myself and feel about myself... that is just as profound as walking through the grocery store for the first time in five years without having to hang on to the shopping cart to keep from falling down from exhaustion.

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:53:52 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Hi TopperI think it is probably because there are so many "jokes" out there about weight being blamed on thyroid, etc. that lots of us have learned not to take thyroid problems seriously. In fact when I was diagnosed we were laughing at work about how we all say our weight is because of our thyroid and that some people really DO have problems. I am one of them and I can prove it. <GGGG>I will try to use caution and not get on a soapbox to people... but I WILL suggest they get checked if they have these problems!!Sue

[Guest guest]

Oh oh... everyone at the cafe, hide the cookies, Sue is on her way!!!!

hehehehehe

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:01:29 -0000 "Sue" writes:

Great idea! I went over and submitted a membership application to see what all of you are up to over there

[Guest guest]

I know, though I haven't had it-----The rapid thinking, doing 50 things at once, literally. It was a speed trap, huh? During what I now know was a hyper phase of Hashi's, I could not sit down in my own house, I had to be constantly doing something, plus, at the same time, I had free floating anxiety. Oh, everything in the house was clean all right. I didn't know what it was like to sit on my own furniture, that is, until I crashed in a day, literally, a day. Yeh, the dry hair and skin and droopy eyes and puffy face were there, but they were THE only signs I had, until I crashed within a 24 hr period of time. Until then, I couldn't sit down and read or sit down and do anything. I also had constant "adventure" going ALLL the time.

Re: Re: Brand new to all this!!

It's also hyper storm... I could have you falling off your chair in a combination of amazement and hysterical laughter with some of the things that I did while I was in storm!!!

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

I know, though I haven't had it-----The rapid thinking, doing 50 things at once, literally. It was a speed trap, huh? During what I now know was a hyper phase of Hashi's, I could not sit down in my own house, I had to be constantly doing something, plus, at the same time, I had free floating anxiety. Oh, everything in the house was clean all right. I didn't know what it was like to sit on my own furniture, that is, until I crashed in a day, literally, a day. Yeh, the dry hair and skin and droopy eyes and puffy face were there, but they were THE only signs I had, until I crashed within a 24 hr period of time. Until then, I couldn't sit down and read or sit down and do anything. I also had constant "adventure" going ALLL the time.

Re: Re: Brand new to all this!!

It's also hyper storm... I could have you falling off your chair in a combination of amazement and hysterical laughter with some of the things that I did while I was in storm!!!

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

I know, though I haven't had it-----The rapid thinking, doing 50 things at once, literally. It was a speed trap, huh? During what I now know was a hyper phase of Hashi's, I could not sit down in my own house, I had to be constantly doing something, plus, at the same time, I had free floating anxiety. Oh, everything in the house was clean all right. I didn't know what it was like to sit on my own furniture, that is, until I crashed in a day, literally, a day. Yeh, the dry hair and skin and droopy eyes and puffy face were there, but they were THE only signs I had, until I crashed within a 24 hr period of time. Until then, I couldn't sit down and read or sit down and do anything. I also had constant "adventure" going ALLL the time.

Re: Re: Brand new to all this!!

It's also hyper storm... I could have you falling off your chair in a combination of amazement and hysterical laughter with some of the things that I did while I was in storm!!!

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

This is the other side of the coin, concerning us ranting and raving about

the bad stuff we've experienced. It confirms to all of us and newcomers

that we are not alone and actually are not " crazy " , and it isn't just

" emotions " , it is physical.

Re: Brand new to all this!!

> =====searching for the article====

>

> Hey that is a great website! I bookmarked it so I could study

> it. I am looking forward to reading your article.

>

> Again I am SO encouraged to hear others have these same reactions I

> have had... makes me feel there is hope I will overcome it!

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

This is the other side of the coin, concerning us ranting and raving about

the bad stuff we've experienced. It confirms to all of us and newcomers

that we are not alone and actually are not " crazy " , and it isn't just

" emotions " , it is physical.

Re: Brand new to all this!!

> =====searching for the article====

>

> Hey that is a great website! I bookmarked it so I could study

> it. I am looking forward to reading your article.

>

> Again I am SO encouraged to hear others have these same reactions I

> have had... makes me feel there is hope I will overcome it!

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

This is the other side of the coin, concerning us ranting and raving about

the bad stuff we've experienced. It confirms to all of us and newcomers

that we are not alone and actually are not " crazy " , and it isn't just

" emotions " , it is physical.

Re: Brand new to all this!!

> =====searching for the article====

>

> Hey that is a great website! I bookmarked it so I could study

> it. I am looking forward to reading your article.

>

> Again I am SO encouraged to hear others have these same reactions I

> have had... makes me feel there is hope I will overcome it!

>

> Sue

[Guest guest]

No... I was referred to the surgeon by my primary care physician so

I plan to make an appointment with her... ALL my test results and

records were faxed to her as well. But no I did not know that TSH

and actual thyroid hormones were not the same thing... good to

know... thanks!!

Sue

> Did you tell this surgeon that the TSH is not the thyroid hormone,

and that

> you would like to know what the readings were on your actual

thyroid

> hormone? You would probably blow his mind and have him studdering

or

> possibly angry, I don't know which. It is the T3 and T4 that

count the

> most.

>

>

>

> Re: Brand new to all this!!

>

>

> > Yes, I agree... I work for a wonderful company!!

> >

> > I am a bit discouraged at the moment. I just talked to my surgeon

> > and good news is my TSH levels are normal... 2.85 so right in

range.

> > BUT he said since they were also normal before the surgery I

should

> > not have had any of the symptoms and that other things such as

> > depression could also cause those symptoms! SHEESH! This is what

I

> > have heard from people for the past two years!!! I KNOW how

I

> > felt... also I asked why I feel so much better since the surgery

and

> > he didn't have an explanation but said if I have more symptoms to

> > talk to my primary care doctor and have her do additional tests.

> >

> > He is an awesome surgeon though!!! Just in effect being told

> > again that I am crazy didn't set very well LOL

> >

> > Sue

[Guest guest]

No... I was referred to the surgeon by my primary care physician so

I plan to make an appointment with her... ALL my test results and

records were faxed to her as well. But no I did not know that TSH

and actual thyroid hormones were not the same thing... good to

know... thanks!!

Sue

> Did you tell this surgeon that the TSH is not the thyroid hormone,

and that

> you would like to know what the readings were on your actual

thyroid

> hormone? You would probably blow his mind and have him studdering

or

> possibly angry, I don't know which. It is the T3 and T4 that

count the

> most.

>

>

>

> Re: Brand new to all this!!

>

>

> > Yes, I agree... I work for a wonderful company!!

> >

> > I am a bit discouraged at the moment. I just talked to my surgeon

> > and good news is my TSH levels are normal... 2.85 so right in

range.

> > BUT he said since they were also normal before the surgery I

should

> > not have had any of the symptoms and that other things such as

> > depression could also cause those symptoms! SHEESH! This is what

I

> > have heard from people for the past two years!!! I KNOW how

I

> > felt... also I asked why I feel so much better since the surgery

and

> > he didn't have an explanation but said if I have more symptoms to

> > talk to my primary care doctor and have her do additional tests.

> >

> > He is an awesome surgeon though!!! Just in effect being told

> > again that I am crazy didn't set very well LOL

> >

> > Sue

[Guest guest]

No... I was referred to the surgeon by my primary care physician so

I plan to make an appointment with her... ALL my test results and

records were faxed to her as well. But no I did not know that TSH

and actual thyroid hormones were not the same thing... good to

know... thanks!!

Sue

> Did you tell this surgeon that the TSH is not the thyroid hormone,

and that

> you would like to know what the readings were on your actual

thyroid

> hormone? You would probably blow his mind and have him studdering

or

> possibly angry, I don't know which. It is the T3 and T4 that

count the

> most.

>

>

>

> Re: Brand new to all this!!

>

>

> > Yes, I agree... I work for a wonderful company!!

> >

> > I am a bit discouraged at the moment. I just talked to my surgeon

> > and good news is my TSH levels are normal... 2.85 so right in

range.

> > BUT he said since they were also normal before the surgery I

should

> > not have had any of the symptoms and that other things such as

> > depression could also cause those symptoms! SHEESH! This is what

I

> > have heard from people for the past two years!!! I KNOW how

I

> > felt... also I asked why I feel so much better since the surgery

and

> > he didn't have an explanation but said if I have more symptoms to

> > talk to my primary care doctor and have her do additional tests.

> >

> > He is an awesome surgeon though!!! Just in effect being told

> > again that I am crazy didn't set very well LOL

> >

> > Sue

[Guest guest]

Oh definitely! It is SO NICE to find people who understand!!! <G>

> This is the other side of the coin, concerning us ranting and

raving about

> the bad stuff we've experienced. It confirms to all of us and

newcomers

> that we are not alone and actually are not " crazy " , and it isn't

just

> " emotions " , it is physical.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Brand new to all this!!

>

>

> > =====searching for the article====

> >

> > Hey that is a great website! I bookmarked it so I could

study

> > it. I am looking forward to reading your article.

> >

> > Again I am SO encouraged to hear others have these same

reactions I

> > have had... makes me feel there is hope I will overcome it!

> >

> > Sue

[Guest guest]

Oh definitely! It is SO NICE to find people who understand!!! <G>

> This is the other side of the coin, concerning us ranting and

raving about

> the bad stuff we've experienced. It confirms to all of us and

newcomers

> that we are not alone and actually are not " crazy " , and it isn't

just

> " emotions " , it is physical.

>

>

>

>

> Re: Brand new to all this!!

>

>

> > =====searching for the article====

> >

> > Hey that is a great website! I bookmarked it so I could

study

> > it. I am looking forward to reading your article.

> >

> > Again I am SO encouraged to hear others have these same

reactions I

> > have had... makes me feel there is hope I will overcome it!

> >

> > Sue