Re: PTLS-Moe

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I had a Dr mention it but won't put in on paper I am sure for liability sake. I

am really hoping that after the baby is born, things will settle back down to

the way they were before the Tl. I had many of the symptoms listed

in MI

DD 4/91

DD 6/94

TL 6/94

TR 4/02

EDD 3/03

Re: PTLS-Moe

>

> Moe, thanks for all the info, even though I didn't request it. I have 23

of the 45 symptoms. The symptoms are so different in origin I would have

never thought they could all result from one thing. I go the the gyn next

week, I am gonna point this out to her, wouldn't it be wonderful if

reconnecting my tubes would cure all my medical problems and make me fertile

to boot. Especially if the procedure was medically necessary and insurance

would actually pay for it, that would be a blessing from God!

> Chrissy

> moe wrote: Post tubal syndrome (PTS) is an an

iatrogenesis condition meaning doctor-caused or doctor produced. Many women

suffer PTS after having a tubal ligation.

>

> The following below is a list of symptoms that are associated with PTS.

>

> PTS is often the result of a rapid decline of estrogen/progesterone

hormone levels caused by the blood supply being damaged to the ovaries

during the TL surgery. Depending on the damage to the veins and

capillaries, blood volume to the ovaries may slightly decrease or can be

eliminated completely which is called isolated ovarian syndrome (common

with hysterectomy operations). Many of the symptoms of PTS are associated

with menopause, hormone shock, or of having an estrogen/progesterone

imbalance.

>

> Other symptoms, such has heavy painful periods may be caused by a hormonal

imbalance, could be caused by adenomyosis (bought on by uterus muscle and

tissue being damaged, effected by the TL surgery impairing the blood supply

to areas of that organ/muscle) or a combination of both. Pain also can be

caused by retro bleeding backing into the sealed fallopian tubes.

>

> Other theories of PTS and the hormonal imbalance that results after a TL

is that target or receptor cells that are important in the relay of hormonal

messages are damaged, destroyed, and or removed during the TL surgery.

These receptor cells act like a telephone, sending messages to the brain.

These target/receptor cells are located within the fallopian tube.

>

> With this in mind, it's possible for a woman to have both her ovaries

still functioning to some degree (if blood supply was not damaged), have no

major problems with her uterus (again if blood supply was not damaged to

that organ), and still be experiencing PTS in the from of a hormonal

imbalance caused by change in her hormonal message relay system due to

receptor cells being removed.

>

> The only way to find out for sure if you have a hormonal imbalance or are

menopausal is to be properly hormone tested.

>

> Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS) aka PTS is linked with:

>

> a.. Castrative Menopause

> b.. Severe Hormone Imbalance

> c.. Ovarian Isolation (Post Hysterectomy, Post Tubal Ligation)

> d.. Atrophic Ovaries

> e.. Hormone Shock

> f.. Increased Risk of Heart Disease

> g.. Bone Loss and Osteoporosis

> h.. Dysfunctional Uterine Bleeding (DUB)

> i.. PMS

> j.. Endometriosis

> k.. Adenomyosis

> l.. Severe Pelvic Adhesions

> m.. Misplacement of Female Organs

> n.. Decreased Lactating Ability

> SYMPTOMS OF POST TUBAL SYNDROME

>

> 1. Eptopic pregnancy or pregnancy (well known risk of tubals)

>

> 2. Hot flashes, flushes, night sweats and/or cold flashes,

> clammy feeling, chills

>

> 3. Bouts of rapid heart beat

>

> 4. Irritability

>

> 5. Mood swings, sudden tears

>

> 6. Trouble sleeping through the night (with or without night sweats)

>

> 7. Irregular periods; shorter, lighter periods; heavier periods, flooding;

> phantom periods, shorter cycles, longer cycles

>

> 8. Loss of libido (see note)

>

> 9. Dry vagina (see note)

>

> 10. Itchy vagina-at time raw like, can radiated from whole area, with

> absence of yeast infections. (see note)

>

> 11. Color change in vaginal area. (color gets darker -darker red to

purple)

>

> 12. Crashing fatigue - Chronic Fatigue

>

> 13. Anxiety, feeling ill at ease

>

> 14. Feelings of dread, apprehension, doom (see note)

>

> 15. Difficulty concentrating, disorientation, mental confusion

>

> 16. Disturbing memory lapses

>

> 17. Incontinence, especially upon sneezing, laughing; urge incontinence

> (see note)

>

> 18. Prolapse of uterus do to rapid decrease in estrogen levels.

>

> 19. Itchy, crawly skin (see note)

>

> 20. Aching, sore joints, muscles and tendons (see note)

>

> 21. Increased tension in muscles

>

> 22. Breast tenderness

>

> 23. Decrease in breast mass

>

> 24. Headache change: increase or decrease

>

> 25. Gastrointestinal distress, indigestion, flatulence, gas pain, nausea

> Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS)

>

> 26. Sudden bouts of bloat

>

> 27. Depression (see note)

>

> 28. Exacerbation of existing conditions

>

> 29. Allergies developing or increasing - (Chronic sinusitis).

>

> 30 Nasal infections-necessitating antibiotics

>

> 31. Weight gain (see note)

>

> 32. Hair loss or thinning, head, pubic, or whole body; increase in facial

hair

>

> 33. Dizziness, light-headedness, episodes of loss of balance

>

> 34. Changes in body odor

>

> 35. Electric shock or stabbing sensation under the skin. (see note)

>

> 36. Tingling in the extremities, (see note)

>

> 37. Gum problems, increased bleeding

>

> 38. Burning tongue, burning roof of mouth, bad taste in mouth, change in

> breath odor (see notes)

>

> 39. Osteoporosis (after several years )

>

> 40. Changes in fingernails: softer, crack or break easier

>

> 41. Stabbing pains in pelvic area at time of ovulation

>

> 42. Pelvic Pain

>

> 43. Development of Adenomyosis

>

> 44. Development of Ovarian/Tubal Cysts

>

> 45. Decreased Lactation Ability

>

> Zentralbl Gynakol 1989;111(16):1124-7 [Article in German]

>

> The effect of postpartum tubal sterilization

> on milk production

>

> Vytiska-Binstorfer E.

> I. Universitats-Frauenklinik, Wien.

>

> We investigated 64 women after the so called " post partum sterilization "

and recorded also retrospectively the milk production within the first seven

days. It was performed by at semilunar subumbilical incision and a bipolar

coagulation of the fallopian tubes. The total daily milk production, which

was compared with the quantity of milk after the previous pregnancy, was on

day six and seven significantly lower after tubal ligation than in the

normal puerperal phase before.

>

>

>

> The effects of blood supply being affected to the ovaries:

>

>

> The onset onset of PTS is not always obvious to the post tubal

woman. She may know that she is sick and that she has suffered a health

change but she may not always be properly diagnosed.

> The symptoms of the hormonal imbalances that are often seen in

post tubal women are often mis-diagnosed by the medical community as being

heart conditions, chronic fatigue, common depression, IBS, common

allegeries, and so on.

>

> The medical community avoids hormone testing post tubal women

under the age of 40. These women are told that they are too young to be

post menopausal when in fact more often then not they are suffering from a

hormonal imbalance or are post menopausal.

>

> Severe and prolonged hormonal imbalances of this nature can cause

bone loss, heart disease, and can cause psychological symptoms that mimic

mental illnesses and Alzheimer's.

>

>

> NOTES:

>

> Symptom 2 - (flashes) Hot flashes are due to the hypothalamic response

to declining ovarian estrogen production. The declining estrogen state

induces hypophysiotropic neurons in the arcuate nucleas of the hypothalamus

to release gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) in a pulsatile fashion,

which in turn stimulates release of luteinizing hormone (LH). Extremely high

pulses of LH occur during the period of declining estrogen production. The

LH has vasodilatory effects, which leads to flushing.

>

> Symptom 8 - (loss of libido) For some women the loss is so great that

they actually find sex repulsive, in much the same way as they felt before

puberty. What hormones give, loss of hormones can take away.

>

> Symptom 9 - (dry vagina) results in painful intercourse.

>

> Symptom 10 - (Itchy and or raw vaginal area) A normal vaginal pH level

is around 4.5. A vaginal pH of 6.0 to 7.5 -- in the absence of a vaginal

infection (yeast infection)-- indicates low blood estrogen levels and

signals that the woman is menopausal. " The vagina (and whole area) becomes

more acidic. "

>

> Symptom 14 - (doom thoughts) includes thoughts of death, picturing one's

own death. Feelings of complete despair.

>

> Symptom 17 - (incontinence) reflects a general loss of smooth muscle

tone.

>

> Symptom 19 - (itchy, crawly skin) feeling of ants crawling under the

skin, not just dry itchy skin.

>

> Symptom 20 - (aching sore joints) may include such problems as carpal

tunnel syndrome.

>

> Symptom 27 - (depression) different from other depression, the inability

to cope is overwhelming. There is a feeling of loss of self. Hormone therapy

ameliorates the depression dramatically.

>

> Symptom 31 - (weight gain) often around the waist and thighs, resulting

in 'the disappearing waistline'

>

> Symptom 35 - (shock sensation) This is often discribed as the feeling of

a rubber band snapping in the layer of tissue between skin and muscle. It

may be a precursor to a hot flash.

>

> Symptom 36 - (tingling in extremities) can also be a symptom of B-12

deficiency, diabetes, alterations in the flexibility of blood vessels, or a

depletion of potassium or calcium.

>

> Symptom 38 - (Burning mouth syndrome)

>

>

>

> Please note: Some of the symptoms above are also symptoms related to

hypothyroidism, diabetes, iron deficiency, and other conditions. If you

believe that you may be experiencing a hormonal imbalance or hormone shock,

please contact your health care provider to consult and have proper serum

testing done. Proper testing will check for ALL conditions. The findings

of hypothyroidism, diabetes, or anemia does not rule out that a hormone

imbalance is not also occurring. The findings of normal thyroid, insulin,

and iron levels does not rule out that a hormone imbalance is not occurring.

>

> Note: Diagnosis of health/medical conditions are not made at this web

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