Re: Antidepressants can cause or make worse hypothyroidism!

[Guest guest]

About a year before I was diagnosed hypothyroid from hypopit my GP

gave celexa, then welbutrin, the tried prozac (last one and I quit

cold turkey after 3 weeks, could make myself take another). At that

point I decided I will never take anti-depressants again.

They all wrecked me. The doc swore that one of them had to work and

could not understand why these messed me up so bad. I was thinking

maybe my serotinin levels were already high enough, but maybe it WAS

making my thyroid go lower.

Chris

> Hi Everyone!

>

> If you are on an antidepressant (SSRI- Prozac, Effexor, Paxil, etc.)

> there are some things you be informed of:

>

> 1)Antidepressants can cause or make worse hypothyroidism.

>

> 2) Antidepressants lower your TSH level on the blood tests, so when

> a thyroid condition is suspected (symptom depression & fatigue) you

> will be undiagnosed because of a false " normal " TSH. Treating your

> thyroid condition - hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism can get rid

of

> your depression! T3 (cytomel or armour) works best.

>

> 3)Antidepressants lower the effects of your thyroid drug! You'll

> need more thyroid meds! Many people diagnosed are undertreated.

>

> 4) Antidepressants cause slower metabolism, cause weight gain.

>

> 5) Antidepressants are addictive! You will go thru about 2 wks to 2

> months of withdrawals before you can tell if you are still depressed

> off them! They will cause worse depression during withdrawal, so

> often a patient tells their dr and the dr says " yep, that means you

> need to go back on them since you are depressed. " NO, you don't.

> This is caused by the withdrawals and temporary! Doctors are not

> educated! Unless you can't get out of bed and suicidal, don't take

> these drugs! Take it from me who went thru 2 months of

> withdrawals. I was on these horrible drugs for 14 yrs because I

> didn't know this and so my MANY attempts at getting off the drugs

> failed. Having this info gives you the power to get thru the

> withdrawals and get off these drugs!

>

> 6)These drugs cause brain fog!

>

> 7)Antidepressants cause many horrible side effects including

> insomnia. Some doctors are actually prescribing it for insomnia!

>

> 8) Antidepressants have not been proven to be effective. Testing

> has shown sugar pills to be more effective!

>

> 9) There is no long term research on what these drugs do to your

> body. Many people have found that the side effects don't go away

> for months to years after they get off these drugs. These are

> not " natural " and certainly not safe.

>

> 10) Antidepressants can actually make your depression worse!

>

> If you don't believe me, do some research and you will find the

> truth just as I have. Spread the word! The drug companies are

> making billions off millions of patients because no one wants to

> talk about mental health! This gives them the power to keep this

> info from patients and doctors. Get the word out there! Doctors

> are pushing these drugs everytime they can't figure out what's wrong

> with you. Depression is a symptom, not a diagnosis! They give them

> out like candy! Just say NO!

>

> Wishing you happiness,

>

> http://peacemanor.50megs.com/depression.html

[Guest guest]

Very informative list, thanks !!!

Topper ()

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:42:16 -0000 FlyingDreams@... writes:

Hi Everyone!If you are on an antidepressant (SSRI- Prozac, Effexor, Paxil, etc.)there are some things you be informed of:

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[Guest guest]

Very informative list, thanks !!!

Topper ()

On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:42:16 -0000 FlyingDreams@... writes:

Hi Everyone!If you are on an antidepressant (SSRI- Prozac, Effexor, Paxil, etc.)there are some things you be informed of:

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[Guest guest]

Not to mention the weird prozac dreams.

Louise

> Very informative list, thanks !!!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:42:16 -0000 FlyingDreams@y... writes:

> Hi Everyone!

>

> If you are on an antidepressant (SSRI- Prozac, Effexor, Paxil, etc.)

> there are some things you be informed of:

>

> < snip >

[Guest guest]

Not to mention the weird prozac dreams.

Louise

> Very informative list, thanks !!!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:42:16 -0000 FlyingDreams@y... writes:

> Hi Everyone!

>

> If you are on an antidepressant (SSRI- Prozac, Effexor, Paxil, etc.)

> there are some things you be informed of:

>

> < snip >

[Guest guest]

Not to mention the weird prozac dreams.

Louise

> Very informative list, thanks !!!

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:42:16 -0000 FlyingDreams@y... writes:

> Hi Everyone!

>

> If you are on an antidepressant (SSRI- Prozac, Effexor, Paxil, etc.)

> there are some things you be informed of:

>

> < snip >

[Guest guest]

Exactly exactly right. The worst antidepressants for these causes are the

SSRIs. Some other types of antidepressants serve a very very short timed

purpose, but I, too, was on another type for 4 yrs, and I have no idea what

all it did to me long term. Imipramine is/was a very good TCA for pulling

one " out of a black hole " , but 4 yrs????? I took myself off of it very

gradually.

Antidepressants can cause or make worse

hypothyroidism!

[Guest guest]

She won't listen to me. God forbid I know more than she does. I've

been telling her to get her money out of our company's stock. That

was when it was $40. Now it's under $3.

The price on her condo was $30,000. Oh you need to pay that off

before you can even consider retiring. Falls on deaf ears.

She loves attention. My guess is that's why she had the colonoscopy.

And when she has a blood test she has to go the hospital and be lying

down. phooey.

Louise

PS Our great aunt and aunt both had/have thyroid problems too.

> She should ABSOLUTELY get her thyroid levels tested, especially

since you

> have thyroid issues.... it does have a tendency to run in

families....

>

> considering the invasiveness of a colonoscopy... why not get the

blood

> draw!!!!?????

>

> Some folks logic! hehehehehehe

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:47:37 -0000 LestatL382@y... writes:

> Ready for a DUH story?!?!?!??! My sis who is 14 years older than me

> is on anafranil which is an old tricyclic antidepressant. Well one

of

> the side effects is that it can increase your risk for having a

> seizure. Guess what - she has epilepsy!!!!! Im like sis how can

your

> Dr do that?!?!?!? You have to take dilantin to stop having seizures

> from your antidepressant when you have epilepsy.

> And I have been bugging her to get her thryoid tested - she won't

do

> that either. BUT she got a colonoscopy - ewwwww.

>

> Louise

[Guest guest]

She won't listen to me. God forbid I know more than she does. I've

been telling her to get her money out of our company's stock. That

was when it was $40. Now it's under $3.

The price on her condo was $30,000. Oh you need to pay that off

before you can even consider retiring. Falls on deaf ears.

She loves attention. My guess is that's why she had the colonoscopy.

And when she has a blood test she has to go the hospital and be lying

down. phooey.

Louise

PS Our great aunt and aunt both had/have thyroid problems too.

> She should ABSOLUTELY get her thyroid levels tested, especially

since you

> have thyroid issues.... it does have a tendency to run in

families....

>

> considering the invasiveness of a colonoscopy... why not get the

blood

> draw!!!!?????

>

> Some folks logic! hehehehehehe

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:47:37 -0000 LestatL382@y... writes:

> Ready for a DUH story?!?!?!??! My sis who is 14 years older than me

> is on anafranil which is an old tricyclic antidepressant. Well one

of

> the side effects is that it can increase your risk for having a

> seizure. Guess what - she has epilepsy!!!!! Im like sis how can

your

> Dr do that?!?!?!? You have to take dilantin to stop having seizures

> from your antidepressant when you have epilepsy.

> And I have been bugging her to get her thryoid tested - she won't

do

> that either. BUT she got a colonoscopy - ewwwww.

>

> Louise

[Guest guest]

She won't listen to me. God forbid I know more than she does. I've

been telling her to get her money out of our company's stock. That

was when it was $40. Now it's under $3.

The price on her condo was $30,000. Oh you need to pay that off

before you can even consider retiring. Falls on deaf ears.

She loves attention. My guess is that's why she had the colonoscopy.

And when she has a blood test she has to go the hospital and be lying

down. phooey.

Louise

PS Our great aunt and aunt both had/have thyroid problems too.

> She should ABSOLUTELY get her thyroid levels tested, especially

since you

> have thyroid issues.... it does have a tendency to run in

families....

>

> considering the invasiveness of a colonoscopy... why not get the

blood

> draw!!!!?????

>

> Some folks logic! hehehehehehe

>

> Topper ()

>

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:47:37 -0000 LestatL382@y... writes:

> Ready for a DUH story?!?!?!??! My sis who is 14 years older than me

> is on anafranil which is an old tricyclic antidepressant. Well one

of

> the side effects is that it can increase your risk for having a

> seizure. Guess what - she has epilepsy!!!!! Im like sis how can

your

> Dr do that?!?!?!? You have to take dilantin to stop having seizures

> from your antidepressant when you have epilepsy.

> And I have been bugging her to get her thryoid tested - she won't

do

> that either. BUT she got a colonoscopy - ewwwww.

>

> Louise

[Guest guest]

I know folks like that.. I live with two of them.... it bites....

You try to help.. offer things that you will know, facts, experiences.. but you don't know ANYTHING....

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:28:44 -0000 LestatL382@... writes:

She won't listen to me. God forbid I know more than she does. I've been telling her to get her money out of our company's stock. That was when it was $40. Now it's under $3. The price on her condo was $30,000. Oh you need to pay that off before you can even consider retiring. Falls on deaf ears. She loves attention. My guess is that's why she had the colonoscopy. And when she has a blood test she has to go the hospital and be lying down. phooey. LouisePS Our great aunt and aunt both had/have thyroid problems too.

[Guest guest]

I know folks like that.. I live with two of them.... it bites....

You try to help.. offer things that you will know, facts, experiences.. but you don't know ANYTHING....

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:28:44 -0000 LestatL382@... writes:

She won't listen to me. God forbid I know more than she does. I've been telling her to get her money out of our company's stock. That was when it was $40. Now it's under $3. The price on her condo was $30,000. Oh you need to pay that off before you can even consider retiring. Falls on deaf ears. She loves attention. My guess is that's why she had the colonoscopy. And when she has a blood test she has to go the hospital and be lying down. phooey. LouisePS Our great aunt and aunt both had/have thyroid problems too.

[Guest guest]

I know folks like that.. I live with two of them.... it bites....

You try to help.. offer things that you will know, facts, experiences.. but you don't know ANYTHING....

Topper ()

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:28:44 -0000 LestatL382@... writes:

She won't listen to me. God forbid I know more than she does. I've been telling her to get her money out of our company's stock. That was when it was $40. Now it's under $3. The price on her condo was $30,000. Oh you need to pay that off before you can even consider retiring. Falls on deaf ears. She loves attention. My guess is that's why she had the colonoscopy. And when she has a blood test she has to go the hospital and be lying down. phooey. LouisePS Our great aunt and aunt both had/have thyroid problems too.

[Guest guest]

Her comment on blood tests - ewwwwww. Dont know if she is that

squirmish or what.

> > > She should ABSOLUTELY get her thyroid levels tested, especially

> > since you

> > > have thyroid issues.... it does have a tendency to run in

> > families....

> > >

> > > considering the invasiveness of a colonoscopy... why not get

the

> > blood

> > > draw!!!!?????

> > >

> > > Some folks logic! hehehehehehe

> > >

> > > Topper ()

> > >

> > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:47:37 -0000 LestatL382@y... writes:

> > > Ready for a DUH story?!?!?!??! My sis who is 14 years older

than

> me

> > > is on anafranil which is an old tricyclic antidepressant. Well

> one

> > of

> > > the side effects is that it can increase your risk for having a

> > > seizure. Guess what - she has epilepsy!!!!! Im like sis how can

> > your

> > > Dr do that?!?!?!? You have to take dilantin to stop having

> seizures

> > > from your antidepressant when you have epilepsy.

> > > And I have been bugging her to get her thryoid tested - she

> won't

> > do

> > > that either. BUT she got a colonoscopy - ewwwww.

> > >

> > > Louise

[Guest guest]

Her comment on blood tests - ewwwwww. Dont know if she is that

squirmish or what.

> > > She should ABSOLUTELY get her thyroid levels tested, especially

> > since you

> > > have thyroid issues.... it does have a tendency to run in

> > families....

> > >

> > > considering the invasiveness of a colonoscopy... why not get

the

> > blood

> > > draw!!!!?????

> > >

> > > Some folks logic! hehehehehehe

> > >

> > > Topper ()

> > >

> > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:47:37 -0000 LestatL382@y... writes:

> > > Ready for a DUH story?!?!?!??! My sis who is 14 years older

than

> me

> > > is on anafranil which is an old tricyclic antidepressant. Well

> one

> > of

> > > the side effects is that it can increase your risk for having a

> > > seizure. Guess what - she has epilepsy!!!!! Im like sis how can

> > your

> > > Dr do that?!?!?!? You have to take dilantin to stop having

> seizures

> > > from your antidepressant when you have epilepsy.

> > > And I have been bugging her to get her thryoid tested - she

> won't

> > do

> > > that either. BUT she got a colonoscopy - ewwwww.

> > >

> > > Louise

[Guest guest]

LOL well it doesn't sound nearly as bad as a colonoscopy but I guess

to each her own. <G>

Sue

> > > > She should ABSOLUTELY get her thyroid levels tested,

especially

> > > since you

> > > > have thyroid issues.... it does have a tendency to run in

> > > families....

> > > >

> > > > considering the invasiveness of a colonoscopy... why not get

> the

> > > blood

> > > > draw!!!!?????

> > > >

> > > > Some folks logic! hehehehehehe

> > > >

> > > > Topper ()

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:47:37 -0000 LestatL382@y... writes:

> > > > Ready for a DUH story?!?!?!??! My sis who is 14 years older

> than

> > me

> > > > is on anafranil which is an old tricyclic antidepressant.

Well

> > one

> > > of

> > > > the side effects is that it can increase your risk for

having a

> > > > seizure. Guess what - she has epilepsy!!!!! Im like sis how

can

> > > your

> > > > Dr do that?!?!?!? You have to take dilantin to stop having

> > seizures

> > > > from your antidepressant when you have epilepsy.

> > > > And I have been bugging her to get her thryoid tested - she

> > won't

> > > do

> > > > that either. BUT she got a colonoscopy - ewwwww.

> > > >

> > > > Louise

[Guest guest]

LOL well it doesn't sound nearly as bad as a colonoscopy but I guess

to each her own. <G>

Sue

> > > > She should ABSOLUTELY get her thyroid levels tested,

especially

> > > since you

> > > > have thyroid issues.... it does have a tendency to run in

> > > families....

> > > >

> > > > considering the invasiveness of a colonoscopy... why not get

> the

> > > blood

> > > > draw!!!!?????

> > > >

> > > > Some folks logic! hehehehehehe

> > > >

> > > > Topper ()

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 01:47:37 -0000 LestatL382@y... writes:

> > > > Ready for a DUH story?!?!?!??! My sis who is 14 years older

> than

> > me

> > > > is on anafranil which is an old tricyclic antidepressant.

Well

> > one

> > > of

> > > > the side effects is that it can increase your risk for

having a

> > > > seizure. Guess what - she has epilepsy!!!!! Im like sis how

can

> > > your

> > > > Dr do that?!?!?!? You have to take dilantin to stop having

> > seizures

> > > > from your antidepressant when you have epilepsy.

> > > > And I have been bugging her to get her thryoid tested - she

> > won't

> > > do

> > > > that either. BUT she got a colonoscopy - ewwwww.

> > > >

> > > > Louise

[Guest guest]

Now ya know I've already shared the experiences with all of my daughters, two of which are hypothyroid already. Both take the synthetic T4, both have moood swings, both have sleep problems ongoing, both have aches and pains they can't explain away, even though they are only 34 and 29, both are losing their hair, the oldest one having lost a ton of scalp hair for the last several yrs has a couple of bald spots even, had accelerated dental decay (even though she has faithfully taken care of her teeth all this time) and now already has dentures, and a whole host of other things going on with both of them. But, ya know what? I don't know what I'm talking about, do I think I'm a doctor, yada, yada, yada. You know the speil. Then there's my sister, who had a hysterectomy just a couple of yrs ago, who is taking the horse pee stuff, who has now, in the last few months, had a "nervous breakdown" of sorts, panic attacks, free floating anxiety, which has affected her job, etc......cries at the drop of a hat. I have apprised her of some of the main symptoms of thyroid problems, given her material to read on it, and told her that it IS a family trait. Advised her to get testing. Do you think that she has? No. I have brought this up to her on numerous occasions, over and over, but to no avail. She is seeing a psychiatrist because she is convinced that they are right, it is literally "all in her head", but I know better from everything she has described to me. Not one suggestion has been made by her psych to run thyroid tests either.

Re: Re: Antidepressants can cause or make worse hypothyroidism!

I know folks like that.. I live with two of them.... it bites....

You try to help.. offer things that you will know, facts, experiences.. but you don't know ANYTHING....

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

Now ya know I've already shared the experiences with all of my daughters, two of which are hypothyroid already. Both take the synthetic T4, both have moood swings, both have sleep problems ongoing, both have aches and pains they can't explain away, even though they are only 34 and 29, both are losing their hair, the oldest one having lost a ton of scalp hair for the last several yrs has a couple of bald spots even, had accelerated dental decay (even though she has faithfully taken care of her teeth all this time) and now already has dentures, and a whole host of other things going on with both of them. But, ya know what? I don't know what I'm talking about, do I think I'm a doctor, yada, yada, yada. You know the speil. Then there's my sister, who had a hysterectomy just a couple of yrs ago, who is taking the horse pee stuff, who has now, in the last few months, had a "nervous breakdown" of sorts, panic attacks, free floating anxiety, which has affected her job, etc......cries at the drop of a hat. I have apprised her of some of the main symptoms of thyroid problems, given her material to read on it, and told her that it IS a family trait. Advised her to get testing. Do you think that she has? No. I have brought this up to her on numerous occasions, over and over, but to no avail. She is seeing a psychiatrist because she is convinced that they are right, it is literally "all in her head", but I know better from everything she has described to me. Not one suggestion has been made by her psych to run thyroid tests either.

Re: Re: Antidepressants can cause or make worse hypothyroidism!

I know folks like that.. I live with two of them.... it bites....

You try to help.. offer things that you will know, facts, experiences.. but you don't know ANYTHING....

Topper ()

[Guest guest]

I get the same crap... I'm a nobody, I know nothing.....

I make believe that I'm taking medicines. I'm just getting herbal stuff on the internet and making it important like it's medicine.

arrgghhhh can you tell I'm not in a good mood today?

arrrrgghhhhh

Topper ()

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:24:34 -0500 " " writes:

Now ya know I've already shared the experiences with all of my daughters, two of which are hypothyroid already. Both take the synthetic T4, both have moood swings, both have sleep problems ongoing, both have aches and pains they can't explain away, even though they are only 34 and 29, both are losing their hair, the oldest one having lost a ton of scalp hair for the last several yrs has a couple of bald spots even, had accelerated dental decay (even though she has faithfully taken care of her teeth all this time) and now already has dentures, and a whole host of other things going on with both of them. But, ya know what? I don't know what I'm talking about, do I think I'm a doctor, yada, yada, yada. You know the speil. Then there's my sister, who had a hysterectomy just a couple of yrs ago, who is taking the horse pee stuff, who has now, in the last few months, had a "nervous breakdown" of sorts, panic attacks, free floating anxiety, which has affected her job, etc......cries at the drop of a hat. I have apprised her of some of the main symptoms of thyroid problems, given her material to read on it, and told her that it IS a family trait. Advised her to get testing. Do you think that she has? No. I have brought this up to her on numerous occasions, over and over, but to no avail. She is seeing a psychiatrist because she is convinced that they are right, it is literally "all in her head", but I know better from everything she has described to me. Not one suggestion has been made by her psych to run thyroid tests either.

[Guest guest]

I get the same crap... I'm a nobody, I know nothing.....

I make believe that I'm taking medicines. I'm just getting herbal stuff on the internet and making it important like it's medicine.

arrgghhhh can you tell I'm not in a good mood today?

arrrrgghhhhh

Topper ()

On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:24:34 -0500 " " writes:

Now ya know I've already shared the experiences with all of my daughters, two of which are hypothyroid already. Both take the synthetic T4, both have moood swings, both have sleep problems ongoing, both have aches and pains they can't explain away, even though they are only 34 and 29, both are losing their hair, the oldest one having lost a ton of scalp hair for the last several yrs has a couple of bald spots even, had accelerated dental decay (even though she has faithfully taken care of her teeth all this time) and now already has dentures, and a whole host of other things going on with both of them. But, ya know what? I don't know what I'm talking about, do I think I'm a doctor, yada, yada, yada. You know the speil. Then there's my sister, who had a hysterectomy just a couple of yrs ago, who is taking the horse pee stuff, who has now, in the last few months, had a "nervous breakdown" of sorts, panic attacks, free floating anxiety, which has affected her job, etc......cries at the drop of a hat. I have apprised her of some of the main symptoms of thyroid problems, given her material to read on it, and told her that it IS a family trait. Advised her to get testing. Do you think that she has? No. I have brought this up to her on numerous occasions, over and over, but to no avail. She is seeing a psychiatrist because she is convinced that they are right, it is literally "all in her head", but I know better from everything she has described to me. Not one suggestion has been made by her psych to run thyroid tests either.