Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hello Fijifamily@..., In reference to your comment: ð What is the normal range of blood sugars for people ð without diabetes? 80 - 120 for US range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hello Fijifamily@..., In reference to your comment: ð What is the normal range of blood sugars for people ð without diabetes? 80 - 120 for US range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hello Fijifamily@..., In reference to your comment: ð What is the normal range of blood sugars for people ð without diabetes? 80 - 120 for US range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 A normal range is my target range, which I thought was 90 - 120. Ed from CT > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 A normal range is my target range, which I thought was 90 - 120. Ed from CT > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 A normal range is my target range, which I thought was 90 - 120. Ed from CT > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hello minotspyder2@..., In reference to your comment: ð My doctors, diabetic specialist and diabetic dietician ð all said that 70 to 110 is the normal range. lol its like anything, you ask 100 people you get 100 different answers.... in nursing school i've been taught, and have taught its 80 - 120, but bottom line is its a range, and ranges vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hello minotspyder2@..., In reference to your comment: ð My doctors, diabetic specialist and diabetic dietician ð all said that 70 to 110 is the normal range. lol its like anything, you ask 100 people you get 100 different answers.... in nursing school i've been taught, and have taught its 80 - 120, but bottom line is its a range, and ranges vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Hello minotspyder2@..., In reference to your comment: ð My doctors, diabetic specialist and diabetic dietician ð all said that 70 to 110 is the normal range. lol its like anything, you ask 100 people you get 100 different answers.... in nursing school i've been taught, and have taught its 80 - 120, but bottom line is its a range, and ranges vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 << What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without diabetes? Roxanne >> I think it's about between 80 and 110. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne 70-120.....I think. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne 70-120.....I think. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne 70-120.....I think. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 My doctors, diabetic specialist and diabetic dietician all said that 70 to 110 is the normal range. Spyder minotspyder2@... Normal blood sugars What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without diabetes? Roxanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 My doctors, diabetic specialist and diabetic dietician all said that 70 to 110 is the normal range. Spyder minotspyder2@... Normal blood sugars What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without diabetes? Roxanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Yes, and IMHO, this is because doctors generally educate newbies that diabetes is a progressive disease and the progress of the disease is inevitable. If more doctors educated newbies that progress is NOT inevitable and with good control they can avoid complications, I'm sure more new diabetics would make the effort to gain good control. (This is one of MY ot buttons, smile). Vicki. BTW, at what kind of a seminar at OHSU did you put this forth, ? Was it for laypeople? Or medical students? << have the disease. I have discussed this at a seminar at our local teaching hospital (OHSU), and it was stated emphatically that the goals published by the ADA, and used by the majority of the medical community are to avoid hypo's because the control of most diabetics is so poor as to make lower goals dangerous. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Yes, and IMHO, this is because doctors generally educate newbies that diabetes is a progressive disease and the progress of the disease is inevitable. If more doctors educated newbies that progress is NOT inevitable and with good control they can avoid complications, I'm sure more new diabetics would make the effort to gain good control. (This is one of MY ot buttons, smile). Vicki. BTW, at what kind of a seminar at OHSU did you put this forth, ? Was it for laypeople? Or medical students? << have the disease. I have discussed this at a seminar at our local teaching hospital (OHSU), and it was stated emphatically that the goals published by the ADA, and used by the majority of the medical community are to avoid hypo's because the control of most diabetics is so poor as to make lower goals dangerous. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 mrsroxanne wrote: > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne > > Hi Roxanne, The American Diabetes Association's Clinical Practice Recommendations steers clear of the lower number of the range and simply says <110 mg/dl is a " normal " fasting Plasma glucose reading. Normal for 2 hour post-prandial (after meals) is <140. The following link provides some excellent reading for those of you who are newly diagnosed. The articles are broken up into separate links. This one will bring you to the index: http://www.diabetes.org/clinicalrecommendations/caresup1Jan01.htm There is a lot of information there, so get your waders on before you click! ) Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 mrsroxanne wrote: > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > diabetes? Roxanne > > Hi Roxanne, The American Diabetes Association's Clinical Practice Recommendations steers clear of the lower number of the range and simply says <110 mg/dl is a " normal " fasting Plasma glucose reading. Normal for 2 hour post-prandial (after meals) is <140. The following link provides some excellent reading for those of you who are newly diagnosed. The articles are broken up into separate links. This one will bring you to the index: http://www.diabetes.org/clinicalrecommendations/caresup1Jan01.htm There is a lot of information there, so get your waders on before you click! ) Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Rick wrote: > > mrsroxanne wrote: > > > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > > diabetes? Roxanne > > > > > > Hi Roxanne, > > The American Diabetes Association's Clinical Practice Recommendations > steers clear of the lower number of the range and simply says <110 mg/dl > is a " normal " fasting Plasma glucose reading. Normal for 2 hour > post-prandial (after meals) is <140. > This is from the same people (ADA) that think we should all eat lots of complex carbs that are the very cause of high blood glucose levels. They also say that an HbA1c of 7.0 is " good contol " , when it is well established that there is a substantial increase in complication risk at that number. Normal " non-diabetics " blood glucose will be in less than 110mg/dl, and HbA1c of less than 6.0. Some say 70-110, some say 80-110, but 110 is the high for non-diabeits. Above 110 are those that are approaching being full-blown diabetics at over 126mg/dl. The " 140 " quoted above is the ADA's goal for a diabeic's control, and imho dangerous to the health of all of us who have the disease. I have discussed this at a seminar at our local teaching hospital (OHSU), and it was stated emphatically that the goals published by the ADA, and used by the majority of the medical community are to avoid hypo's because the control of most diabetics is so poor as to make lower goals dangerous. Sorry for the rant, but this is one of my hot-buttons. I am not a medical person, but have been living with this and researching for 3 1/2 years now and controlling with low-carb diet only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Rick wrote: > > mrsroxanne wrote: > > > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > > diabetes? Roxanne > > > > > > Hi Roxanne, > > The American Diabetes Association's Clinical Practice Recommendations > steers clear of the lower number of the range and simply says <110 mg/dl > is a " normal " fasting Plasma glucose reading. Normal for 2 hour > post-prandial (after meals) is <140. > This is from the same people (ADA) that think we should all eat lots of complex carbs that are the very cause of high blood glucose levels. They also say that an HbA1c of 7.0 is " good contol " , when it is well established that there is a substantial increase in complication risk at that number. Normal " non-diabetics " blood glucose will be in less than 110mg/dl, and HbA1c of less than 6.0. Some say 70-110, some say 80-110, but 110 is the high for non-diabeits. Above 110 are those that are approaching being full-blown diabetics at over 126mg/dl. The " 140 " quoted above is the ADA's goal for a diabeic's control, and imho dangerous to the health of all of us who have the disease. I have discussed this at a seminar at our local teaching hospital (OHSU), and it was stated emphatically that the goals published by the ADA, and used by the majority of the medical community are to avoid hypo's because the control of most diabetics is so poor as to make lower goals dangerous. Sorry for the rant, but this is one of my hot-buttons. I am not a medical person, but have been living with this and researching for 3 1/2 years now and controlling with low-carb diet only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Rick wrote: > > mrsroxanne wrote: > > > What is the normal range of blood sugars for people without > > diabetes? Roxanne > > > > > > Hi Roxanne, > > The American Diabetes Association's Clinical Practice Recommendations > steers clear of the lower number of the range and simply says <110 mg/dl > is a " normal " fasting Plasma glucose reading. Normal for 2 hour > post-prandial (after meals) is <140. > This is from the same people (ADA) that think we should all eat lots of complex carbs that are the very cause of high blood glucose levels. They also say that an HbA1c of 7.0 is " good contol " , when it is well established that there is a substantial increase in complication risk at that number. Normal " non-diabetics " blood glucose will be in less than 110mg/dl, and HbA1c of less than 6.0. Some say 70-110, some say 80-110, but 110 is the high for non-diabeits. Above 110 are those that are approaching being full-blown diabetics at over 126mg/dl. The " 140 " quoted above is the ADA's goal for a diabeic's control, and imho dangerous to the health of all of us who have the disease. I have discussed this at a seminar at our local teaching hospital (OHSU), and it was stated emphatically that the goals published by the ADA, and used by the majority of the medical community are to avoid hypo's because the control of most diabetics is so poor as to make lower goals dangerous. Sorry for the rant, but this is one of my hot-buttons. I am not a medical person, but have been living with this and researching for 3 1/2 years now and controlling with low-carb diet only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Holmen wrote: > Normal " non-diabetics " blood glucose will be in less than > 110mg/dl, and HbA1c of less than 6.0. Some say 70-110, some > say 80-110, but 110 is the high for non-diabeits. Above 110 > are those that are approaching being full-blown diabetics at > over 126mg/dl. > The " 140 " quoted above is the ADA's goal for a diabeic's > control, and imho dangerous to the health of all of us who > have the disease. > I have discussed this at a seminar at our local teaching > hospital (OHSU), and it was stated emphatically that the > goals published by the ADA, and used by the majority of the > medical community are to avoid hypo's because the control of > most diabetics is so poor as to make lower goals dangerous. > Sorry for the rant, but this is one of my hot-buttons. Out of fairness to , since I posted a link to the ADA, I'll also post a link to Bernstein's " Diabetes Solution " , portions of which can be read on-line. Here is a link to the chapter in which Dr. Bernstein discusses " normal " blood sugar levels: http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/readit/chapter1-3.shtml Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Holmen wrote: > Normal " non-diabetics " blood glucose will be in less than > 110mg/dl, and HbA1c of less than 6.0. Some say 70-110, some > say 80-110, but 110 is the high for non-diabeits. Above 110 > are those that are approaching being full-blown diabetics at > over 126mg/dl. > The " 140 " quoted above is the ADA's goal for a diabeic's > control, and imho dangerous to the health of all of us who > have the disease. > I have discussed this at a seminar at our local teaching > hospital (OHSU), and it was stated emphatically that the > goals published by the ADA, and used by the majority of the > medical community are to avoid hypo's because the control of > most diabetics is so poor as to make lower goals dangerous. > Sorry for the rant, but this is one of my hot-buttons. Out of fairness to , since I posted a link to the ADA, I'll also post a link to Bernstein's " Diabetes Solution " , portions of which can be read on-line. Here is a link to the chapter in which Dr. Bernstein discusses " normal " blood sugar levels: http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/readit/chapter1-3.shtml Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 My MIL was in the hospital last week and her doctor really pi--ed me off. Her BG was 265 when they took her to the ER and when I asked him about DM he said she was " mildly diabetic " !!!!! OK she's in her mid 70s with a bad heart and bad lungs but still... None of the doctors here think they need to worry about her BG numbers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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