Re: A long overdue 'thank you' (mc ment)

[Guest guest]

Hi Tor. I'm so glad that this group helped you through this terrible

time. Please let us know what they say - regarding what, exactly,

happened.

You have been in my thoughts and I would like to send you some

(((((HUGS)))))).

Tara

BU

[Guest guest]

((TOR))

This is so hard, to worry about your antibodies and septum, and to

fret about what went wrong this time. I'm thinking about and praying

for you and a successful prg. next time.

As to my opinion about having the 3rd opinion--I'd say do it. How

much could it really hurt? Maybe it's just because my doctors here

in the US all told me that my big septum would be a big problem, and

knowing my SU mom's history of m/c....I wanted it out asap. There

are minimal risks associated with hysteroscopy. It basically can

only HELP your chances. I guess I just don't see the other side's

argument. Yeah, some women with big septa have healthy babies, no

problem. But the key is, to me, SOME DON'T! And those that don't,

statistically, are much helped by septoplasty.

Best of luck. We're all behind you no matter what decision you

decide to make!

Jill

SU resected 5/21/02

> I'm sorry it has taken me so long to thank all of you who posted

and

> mailed me kind messages of support after my recent m/c. They

really

> were such a great comfort to me - especially as, with the exception

> of my H and Mother, I hadn't really shared my news or been able to

> talk about what I was going through. Knowing that so many of you

> really understand the anxieties of this business made your support

> even more valuable. I'm not saying that other support is less

> welcome but I think it is hard for those who have been fortunate to

> sail through their pregnancies to know what to say.

>

> I'm hoping to hear in the next couple of weeks why the pg failed.

My

> best hope would be that it was simply a chromosonal disorder as, at

> least that way, I can accept it really never going to be. I know

they

> have my treatment for the antibodies in check and this one had

> implanted away from the septum so I pray nothing new shows up.

>

> The thought of ttc again knowing that not only do my bloods carry

> their own risk but I have the worry of where the pregnancy will

> implant and the associated risks of a septum just feel too much to

> bear at the moment. I really do want my septum removed as at least

> that way I could feel 50% of my problems are dealt with. My H

thinks

> that as I have been advised against removal, I should try just one

> more time before seeking what will effectly be a third opinion on

how

> to move forward. Right now I'm not so sure.

>

> Sorry that turned out long. I'd welcome your own thoughts, as

> ever ...

>

> With very best wishes to you all and many thanks again

>

> Tor

>

> SU, 34 (UK)

[Guest guest]

((TOR))

This is so hard, to worry about your antibodies and septum, and to

fret about what went wrong this time. I'm thinking about and praying

for you and a successful prg. next time.

As to my opinion about having the 3rd opinion--I'd say do it. How

much could it really hurt? Maybe it's just because my doctors here

in the US all told me that my big septum would be a big problem, and

knowing my SU mom's history of m/c....I wanted it out asap. There

are minimal risks associated with hysteroscopy. It basically can

only HELP your chances. I guess I just don't see the other side's

argument. Yeah, some women with big septa have healthy babies, no

problem. But the key is, to me, SOME DON'T! And those that don't,

statistically, are much helped by septoplasty.

Best of luck. We're all behind you no matter what decision you

decide to make!

Jill

SU resected 5/21/02

> I'm sorry it has taken me so long to thank all of you who posted

and

> mailed me kind messages of support after my recent m/c. They

really

> were such a great comfort to me - especially as, with the exception

> of my H and Mother, I hadn't really shared my news or been able to

> talk about what I was going through. Knowing that so many of you

> really understand the anxieties of this business made your support

> even more valuable. I'm not saying that other support is less

> welcome but I think it is hard for those who have been fortunate to

> sail through their pregnancies to know what to say.

>

> I'm hoping to hear in the next couple of weeks why the pg failed.

My

> best hope would be that it was simply a chromosonal disorder as, at

> least that way, I can accept it really never going to be. I know

they

> have my treatment for the antibodies in check and this one had

> implanted away from the septum so I pray nothing new shows up.

>

> The thought of ttc again knowing that not only do my bloods carry

> their own risk but I have the worry of where the pregnancy will

> implant and the associated risks of a septum just feel too much to

> bear at the moment. I really do want my septum removed as at least

> that way I could feel 50% of my problems are dealt with. My H

thinks

> that as I have been advised against removal, I should try just one

> more time before seeking what will effectly be a third opinion on

how

> to move forward. Right now I'm not so sure.

>

> Sorry that turned out long. I'd welcome your own thoughts, as

> ever ...

>

> With very best wishes to you all and many thanks again

>

> Tor

>

> SU, 34 (UK)

[Guest guest]

My H thinks

> that as I have been advised against removal, I should try just one

> more time before seeking what will effectly be a third opinion on

how

> to move forward. Right now I'm not so sure.

>

Hi Tor,

I was glad to hear from you. I think we can all relate to your

message. Somehow, the support that we get from here is different

because many of the members have had similar experiences and can

empathize more than the average person.

I know that you are considering seeking another opinion regarding

your SU. So, I hope that maybe this article can be of help, should

you decide to talk to another dr. I found this abstract that was

done in the UK. I don't know if this hospital is located anywhere

near you. It appears that these drs. support the hysteroscopic

septoplasty to improve pg outcomes. I don't know what kind of

specialized training these 2 drs have since the abstract was based on

retrospective data, however, perhaps they could refer you to a

surgeon if they do not perform this type of procedure. It's worth

looking into as it seems that it has been difficult to find a

specialist in the UK that supports hysteroscopic septoplasty.

Sending you hugs and support for whatever decision you make,

Sara

34, SU resected 4/2002

The septate uterus: a review of management and reproductive outcome.

Homer HA, Li TC, Cooke ID.

Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Jessop Hospital for Women,

Sheffield, Yorkshire, United Kingdom.

OBJECTIVE: To review the literature on the diagnosis, prevalence, and

treatment of the septate uterus, with special reference to

hysteroscopic metroplasty and its effect on reproductive outcome.

DESIGN: Pertinent studies were identified through a computer MEDLINE

search. References of selected articles were hand-searched for

additional citations. RESULT(S): Reliable diagnosis of the septate

uterus depends on accurate assessment of the uterine fundal contour.

At present, the combined use of laparoscopy and hysteroscopy is the

gold standard for diagnosis, although recent reports of two-

dimensional, transvaginal, contrast ultrasound and of three-

dimensional ultrasound appear promising. The prevalence of the

septate uterus is increased in women with repeated pregnancy loss. A

metaanalysis of published retrospective data comparing pregnancy

outcome before and after hysteroscopic septoplasty indicated a marked

improvement after surgery. CONCLUSION(S): The hysteroscopic approach

to treatment, with its simplicity, minimal postoperative sequelae,

and improved reproductive outcome, has enabled a more liberalized

approach to treatment that is now being extended to include not only

patients with recurrent pregnancy loss and premature labor but also

patients with infertility, especially if IVF is being contemplated.

Publication Types:

Review

Review, Academic

PMID: 10632403 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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