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In a message dated 05/03/2007 00:10:45 GMT Standard Time,

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My pulse in in the 90's always maybe that is normal for you.

No, 90 is palps for me Val, about 84 is normal sometimes a bit lower than

that when I am ultra-chilled :)

My temps. have stabilised and are low at 97.5, 97.5, 97.6 and 97.6 over the

last four days and that is pointing to a need for more Armour so I can

confused.

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 11:09:33 GMT Standard Time,

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But what you are saying is 84 is normal for HYPO you.. Maybe as you get

UNHYPO your pulse will be higher and still be normal. Mine cetainly did a it

used

ot be 60!

It is hard to explain Val but 90 feels horrible to me, my heart is thumping

like crazy, my chest is bouncing from the impact and it speeds me up mentally

making it impossible to get to sleep.

I have a feeling that my pulse will lower as I become healthier rather the

speeding up more as that feels so wrong somehow, my body does not like it.

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 11:31:38 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

OK thumping is not good, but THAT is an independent symptom from the

pulse rate. I can have thumping at 60 or 120.. Seems ot make little

difference. I agree the thumping needs to stop. DId you ever get the

magnesium? Are you taking at least 400MG per day

Yes Val, I take that amount of magnesium and it makes no difference to

palps when I get them or the thumping.

Just the last two days the palps have started in the afternoon which is very

unusual and last two days they went away when I took my Armour only to

return in the evening.

Is that indicating anything significant Val? I am running out of ideas and

options now I feel.

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 11:59:38 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

It sounds as if your T3 is runing low when this starts. At what times do

you take Amrour and weht times do the Pounding start?

I take 2 grains first thing, which is usually about anything from 8.30 - 10

am.

I have been a bit all over the place about when I take the rest (which was

another 2 grains until yesrday). Sometimes another 2 grains at 2 pmish and

sometimes I would split thaty into one and one.

The first day of the afternoon plaps (day before yesterday) I took 2 grains

first thing and it was five hours later that I noticed the palps. They went

when I took one more grain and then I had the other one grain later that day.

Yesterday same thing, palps started in the afternoon and went with some

Armour.

The evening palps start about 9 pm. Hmmmmm see what you mean.

BUT if it is the T3 running out I wonder why the palps did not stop last

night when I took half a grain or Armour? I had to stress-dose 20 mgh.c to stop

them to get to sleep?

thanks Val.

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 13:13:55 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Not enough of a dose. PLain & simple! yOUR OTHER DOSES ARE ALWAYS 1 OR MORE

GRAINS. i WOULD TRY TAKING A WHOLE GRAIN THEN.

Ahhhh. Hopefully we have lift-off with your new plan Val.

I thought half a grain would do it. I thought I had to take higher doses in

the morning? Not so?

So how should I dose throughout the day?

Today I have already taken 2 grains at 8.30 am. One more at 2.30 pm and

another at 8.30 pm?

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 14:56:59 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

I take mine in 4 equal doses of 1 grain each.

So there is NO need for more in the mornings then Val? where did I get that

idea.

Maybe I am mixing it up with cortisol.

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 15:48:40 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

If anything, I seem to need more at bedtime.

Well hopefully I will find the same.

Any idea what the rationale is for taking extra in the a.m. Val?

Thanks.

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>>No, 90 is palps for me Val, about 84 is normal sometimes a bit lower than

that when I am ultra-chilled :) <<

But what you are saying is 84 is normal for HYPO you.. Maybe as you get UNHYPO

your pulse will be higher and still be normal. Mine cetainly did a it used ot be

60!

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OK thumping is not good, but THAT is an independent symptom from the

pulse rate. I can have thumping at 60 or 120.. Seems ot make little

difference. I agree the thumping needs to stop. DId you ever get the

magnesium? Are you taking at least 400MG per day?

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 15:56:37 GMT Standard Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

st that people feel they need the extra BOOST ot get started but I

haven't found thta. I used to take most mine in the AM too, and I

certainly feel betyter now wiht the steady stream

Ok Val. I started today on 2 grains but from tomorrow I will take my four

and quarter grains spread out over the day.

So four doses just after the h.c?

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>>BUT if it is the T3 running out I wonder why the palps did not stop last

night when I took half a grain or Armour? I had to stress-dose 20 mgh.c to stop

them to get to sleep?<<

Not enough of a dose. PLain & simple! yOUR OTHER DOSES ARE ALWAYS 1 OR MORE

GRAINS. i WOULD TRY TAKING A WHOLE GRAIN THEN.

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 17:56:07 GMT Standard Time,

my.new.song@... writes:

I take at least 1200 mgs of magnesium each day,

along with calcium. I bet if you add in magnesium and calcium, even

at 90, your heart rate will feel ok.

I have not heard of anyone taking that much magnesium . Are there any

contraindications for that do you think?

I will certainly try it tonight if I have a repeat performance!

thanks.

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In a message dated 05/03/2007 19:07:42 GMT Standard Time,

cccquilter@... writes:

Mo, you might be spacing your doses too far apart; maybe 5 hours is too

long?

I think you are right here CC as I have been getting palps five hours after

my first 2 grain dose.

I am going to follow what Val does and take it x 4 a day just before my h.c

and see how that goes for me.

I WILL get there in the end!

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>

> It is hard to explain Val but 90 feels horrible to me, my heart is

thumping

> like crazy, my chest is bouncing from the impact and it speeds me

up mentally

> making it impossible to get to sleep.

> I have a feeling that my pulse will lower as I become healthier

rather the

> speeding up more as that feels so wrong somehow, my body does not

like it.

>

> Mo

>

> www.NOVACounselling.com

Hi Mo,

Are you taking sufficient magnesium? I'm sorry if this question was

already asked. For me, my heart rhythm felt problematic until I got

enough magnesium. I take at least 1200 mgs of magnesium each day,

along with calcium. I bet if you add in magnesium and calcium, even

at 90, your heart rate will feel ok.

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> Some people swear by taking more in the AM but I have just not find it

> to be necessary. If anything, I seem to need more at bedtime.

>

>

Wonder if that's because you're also on Cytomel?

I feel like I need to frontload my dosing, otherwise I'll only feel

good midday, when my second dose kicks in.

That could also mean that I'm just not on enough, which is also the case.

I now take 3 grains upon waking & take 1/2 grain late morning &

another 1/2 grain early afternoon.

Warmly,

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For me, I can't take it at night or it takes away what little sleep I AM

getting! I take 2.25 grains in the morning, then 2 grains later in the day, if I

split into two doses of 1 grain each it works well, and if I take the 2 grains

all at one time it works equally well. What doesn't work for me is taking HC or

Armour anywhere close to bedtime!

Mo, you might be spacing your doses too far apart; maybe 5 hours is too long?

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I actually stopped taking my Armour in the a.m. and started taking it

only in the afternoon (I was crashing about 2-3:00 p.m.). I am only

on one grain/one pill/day (hoping to get that increased). I noticed

I was not feeling the boost that it used to give me in the mornings

anymore and I just felt bad all day long when I took it in the

mornings. Weird...

Bonnie

>

> Some people swear by taking more in the AM but I have just not find

it

> to be necessary. If anything, I seem to need more at bedtime.

>

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