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I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR doing

everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and the

general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy and

disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

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I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR doing

everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and the

general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy and

disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

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I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR doing

everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and the

general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy and

disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

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> Hi ,

>

> I can definitely relate to what you have been going through.

> Since my illness, going on 11 years, I have not been taken seriously

> by my husband or children.

I am moved to tears to know how long some of you have suffered!

I don't mean to complain all the time but I

> don't feel good and I have a great need to express to them why I am

> homebound and not the productive mother they wished they had.

This is very hard for me as well. I feel like I've been " tired " their

whole lives. And mean & impatient. It's devastating to me as a

mother to know that I haven't been nice to my kids because of

something that could have been fixed! Motherguilt!

I wish I could undo all of it, but I can't! All I can do is keep on

trucking & hope that some day they will understand that I did the best

that I could.

Even my son who just became a doctor has sort of given

> up because he can't fix me. He thinks I need an antidepressent and

> when I disagree, we argue. It's not healthy for our relationship

> for him to play the role of doctor to his mother.

That's sad, because it sounds like he's bought into the mainstream

medical cure-all.

it takes the limelight off of them.

You've said a mouthful there!

I know this illness has taken a toll on me but it's

> also hurt those who love me the most. When my kids don't call I get

> angry and want to let them know but that will only make things

> worse. I must try to forgive them because they are entitled to a

> happy vibrant life and when they are with me it brings them down. I

> do believe the saying that a mother can take care of 20 children,

> but 20 children cannot take care of one mother.

Sometimes I get disappointed in my kids as well (even though they're

young - 13 & 7), because they seem to have limited compassion. Well,

that should come as no surprise, because this is the behavior that

they've seen everyone exhibit toward me. Sometimes I wonder if we've

created monsters, or if that's just kids being the center of their own

worlds. It scares me though.

Another saying

> comes to mind: When you smile, the world smiles with you, but when

> you cry, you cry alone.

Ain't that the truth!

I am trying to envision the day when I am

> well.

I think this is essentially important. I am doing the same.

I need to lean on God because He is always there. I know

> there is a reason for everything, even if it's to learn to surrender

> and trust in a higher power. Until then, I am trying to forgive

> everyone including myself for being only human.

Thank you for the reminder!

Warmly,

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> Hi ,

>

> I can definitely relate to what you have been going through.

> Since my illness, going on 11 years, I have not been taken seriously

> by my husband or children.

I am moved to tears to know how long some of you have suffered!

I don't mean to complain all the time but I

> don't feel good and I have a great need to express to them why I am

> homebound and not the productive mother they wished they had.

This is very hard for me as well. I feel like I've been " tired " their

whole lives. And mean & impatient. It's devastating to me as a

mother to know that I haven't been nice to my kids because of

something that could have been fixed! Motherguilt!

I wish I could undo all of it, but I can't! All I can do is keep on

trucking & hope that some day they will understand that I did the best

that I could.

Even my son who just became a doctor has sort of given

> up because he can't fix me. He thinks I need an antidepressent and

> when I disagree, we argue. It's not healthy for our relationship

> for him to play the role of doctor to his mother.

That's sad, because it sounds like he's bought into the mainstream

medical cure-all.

it takes the limelight off of them.

You've said a mouthful there!

I know this illness has taken a toll on me but it's

> also hurt those who love me the most. When my kids don't call I get

> angry and want to let them know but that will only make things

> worse. I must try to forgive them because they are entitled to a

> happy vibrant life and when they are with me it brings them down. I

> do believe the saying that a mother can take care of 20 children,

> but 20 children cannot take care of one mother.

Sometimes I get disappointed in my kids as well (even though they're

young - 13 & 7), because they seem to have limited compassion. Well,

that should come as no surprise, because this is the behavior that

they've seen everyone exhibit toward me. Sometimes I wonder if we've

created monsters, or if that's just kids being the center of their own

worlds. It scares me though.

Another saying

> comes to mind: When you smile, the world smiles with you, but when

> you cry, you cry alone.

Ain't that the truth!

I am trying to envision the day when I am

> well.

I think this is essentially important. I am doing the same.

I need to lean on God because He is always there. I know

> there is a reason for everything, even if it's to learn to surrender

> and trust in a higher power. Until then, I am trying to forgive

> everyone including myself for being only human.

Thank you for the reminder!

Warmly,

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> Hi ,

>

> I can definitely relate to what you have been going through.

> Since my illness, going on 11 years, I have not been taken seriously

> by my husband or children.

I am moved to tears to know how long some of you have suffered!

I don't mean to complain all the time but I

> don't feel good and I have a great need to express to them why I am

> homebound and not the productive mother they wished they had.

This is very hard for me as well. I feel like I've been " tired " their

whole lives. And mean & impatient. It's devastating to me as a

mother to know that I haven't been nice to my kids because of

something that could have been fixed! Motherguilt!

I wish I could undo all of it, but I can't! All I can do is keep on

trucking & hope that some day they will understand that I did the best

that I could.

Even my son who just became a doctor has sort of given

> up because he can't fix me. He thinks I need an antidepressent and

> when I disagree, we argue. It's not healthy for our relationship

> for him to play the role of doctor to his mother.

That's sad, because it sounds like he's bought into the mainstream

medical cure-all.

it takes the limelight off of them.

You've said a mouthful there!

I know this illness has taken a toll on me but it's

> also hurt those who love me the most. When my kids don't call I get

> angry and want to let them know but that will only make things

> worse. I must try to forgive them because they are entitled to a

> happy vibrant life and when they are with me it brings them down. I

> do believe the saying that a mother can take care of 20 children,

> but 20 children cannot take care of one mother.

Sometimes I get disappointed in my kids as well (even though they're

young - 13 & 7), because they seem to have limited compassion. Well,

that should come as no surprise, because this is the behavior that

they've seen everyone exhibit toward me. Sometimes I wonder if we've

created monsters, or if that's just kids being the center of their own

worlds. It scares me though.

Another saying

> comes to mind: When you smile, the world smiles with you, but when

> you cry, you cry alone.

Ain't that the truth!

I am trying to envision the day when I am

> well.

I think this is essentially important. I am doing the same.

I need to lean on God because He is always there. I know

> there is a reason for everything, even if it's to learn to surrender

> and trust in a higher power. Until then, I am trying to forgive

> everyone including myself for being only human.

Thank you for the reminder!

Warmly,

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> I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

> achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR

doing

> everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and

the

> general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy

and

> disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

Janis: , that's very sad to me that we are so

misunderstood. They should only know how hard we are trying.

>

> --

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>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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> I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

> achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR

doing

> everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and

the

> general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy

and

> disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

Janis: , that's very sad to me that we are so

misunderstood. They should only know how hard we are trying.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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> I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

> achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR

doing

> everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and

the

> general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy

and

> disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

Janis: , that's very sad to me that we are so

misunderstood. They should only know how hard we are trying.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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> > Hi ,

> >

> > I can definitely relate to what you have been going

through.

> > Since my illness, going on 11 years, I have not been taken

seriously

> > by my husband or children.

>

> I am moved to tears to know how long some of you have suffered!

Janis: I try to enjoy the days I feel better which makes me forget,

at least temporarily, the days I have suffered.

>

>

> I don't mean to complain all the time but I

> > don't feel good and I have a great need to express to them why I

am

> > homebound and not the productive mother they wished they had.

>

> This is very hard for me as well. I feel like I've been " tired "

their

> whole lives. And mean & impatient. It's devastating to me as a

> mother to know that I haven't been nice to my kids because of

> something that could have been fixed! Motherguilt!

>

> I wish I could undo all of it, but I can't! All I can do is keep

on

> trucking & hope that some day they will understand that I did the

best

> that I could.

Janis: The truth is if we could have done better we would have done

better, and one day our children will understand that and know that

it was not intentional.

>

> Even my son who just became a doctor has sort of given

> > up because he can't fix me. He thinks I need an antidepressent

and

> > when I disagree, we argue. It's not healthy for our

relationship

> > for him to play the role of doctor to his mother.

>

> That's sad, because it sounds like he's bought into the mainstream

> medical cure-all.

Janis: You are right. I am into alternative medicine and he is

mainstream. Thank goodness he will be an interventional radiologist

in 4 years which leaves little room for opinions that may be

incorrect. I hope this will keep us on talking terms. Uggggg

>

> it takes the limelight off of them.

>

> You've said a mouthful there!

>

> I know this illness has taken a toll on me but it's

> > also hurt those who love me the most. When my kids don't call I

get

> > angry and want to let them know but that will only make things

> > worse. I must try to forgive them because they are entitled to a

> > happy vibrant life and when they are with me it brings them

down. I

> > do believe the saying that a mother can take care of 20

children,

> > but 20 children cannot take care of one mother.

>

> Sometimes I get disappointed in my kids as well (even though

they're

> young - 13 & 7), because they seem to have limited compassion.

Well,

> that should come as no surprise, because this is the behavior that

> they've seen everyone exhibit toward me. Sometimes I wonder if

we've

> created monsters, or if that's just kids being the center of their

own

> worlds. It scares me though.

Janis: I have thought about this a lot and I'm not sure why so many

children don't show the compassion we thought would be there in our

time of need. I think children are naturally self-centered, some

they learn through imitation, and some is the culture and the values

that are passed on. I think most children, when they become

parents, have some guilt about how they treated their parents after

seeing how difficult it is to be a parent; but hopefully we will

reap the rewards long before that. We must continue to instill in

our children the importance of giving to others, even when it's not

about them.

>

>

> Another saying

> > comes to mind: When you smile, the world smiles with you, but

when

> > you cry, you cry alone.

>

> Ain't that the truth!

>

> I am trying to envision the day when I am

> > well.

>

> I think this is essentially important. I am doing the same.

>

> I need to lean on God because He is always there. I know

> > there is a reason for everything, even if it's to learn to

surrender

> > and trust in a higher power. Until then, I am trying to forgive

> > everyone including myself for being only human.

>

> Thank you for the reminder!

Janis: :)

>

> Warmly,

>

>

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It is a long story so I will keep it short.

I got sick after a drink hit me in the rear end of my little car at a stop

light. He was driving a big 4 weel drive Truck. I hit my head in to the roof

of the car when I was slamed into the car in front of me. This gut out of his

truck with a can of beer in his hand telling me he tried to go around me.

I sued him and because of this not one Dr. would treat me head injurys. After

all kinds of tests they told me I am suffering from Major Depression at the time

I was on sick leave and had to go along with this or lose my sick pay and job.

Five yrs. later not any better my BCBS called my Dr.'s on the capret wanting

to know why I was not getting better. This dam Dr. told them I liked being sick

and depressed and would not get better that he has tried every kind of AD drug

on me and nothiing is going to work unless I want it to.

After being sick and on sick leave my wife turned in to a monster. And this

Dr. saying what he said was the last straw with her. She lashed out at me

saying I was not sick but lazy and did not want to take care of her and took a

knife and through it on the bed I was in and told me to just kill myself. She

packed her things and left thinking this would get me to see the light. I

changed the locks on the doors and filed for a divorce.

Some months late I was put on Prozac when it came out this made me so dam sick

and I could not void it was dam slow. I got a bad bladder infection and was

sent to see a Uro this Dr. talked to me and told me he feels he knows what is

wrong with me. Did some blood test and told me I am not depressed but have low

testosterone. He said my testis are not making testosterone and this has me dam

sick. He treated me and I was beck to work. My wifes lawyer called my lawyer

saying she did not want to get a divorce and wanted to know what she could do to

get back together. I said see needed to go into therapy that I feel she has a

problem. She did and we are still together but I don't feel the same way about

her as I did before all of this.

I still had heath problems and was on sick leave more then I was at work. One

day going back to work from sick leave they locked me out of work and stopped my

Sick Pay. I had not money and this got my wife started again but this time I

told there is the door. This is not my falt and I don't need anything from her

but support. She checked her self. I went to the Gov. and filed a complant

with the EEOC they took my work to court and I won. I got an early out

retirement at age 55 and a big settlement.

Now just last yr. I found out my self that the auto accident was the cause of

my bad health. That bad head injury did something to my pituitary and this is

way I don't make hormones. Looking back all my blood work was screaming this

yet not one Dr. seen this. Now I am treating my low cortisol levels and Thyriod

along with my low DHEA.

I still have a long way to go I am very fatigued all I do is get up in the

morning and sit here on the web. Can't do much more this this to fatigued.

Phil

angesc2001 wrote:

>

> Yes I feel your pain been sick over 23 yrs.

Phil, I'm sorry that you've been going through this for so long. I

can't imagine how hard that must be.

the more Dr.'s I see the less anyone can care. It is so bad with

friends and family I don't talk about it anymore.

I've recently decided that I need to stop talking about it. This is

particularly hard for me, because it's not just bitching that I do,

but I'm also very excited about things that I've learned that may

improve my life or possible even cure my ills. Everyone just glazes

over, and I'm thinking, I know that they're bored to death with me

talking about it, but wouldn't they be excited if I were better?!

Not long ago I get real sick I told my wife and got that look so I

just got up and drove myself to the ER. Never was missed come home

and went to bed no one said anything. Not long ago I told my wife if

you ever get sick and need my help good luck. I

Phil, I'm going to ask you a very personal question that you don't

need to answer if you don't want to. Why do you stay with your wife?

I don't just ask out of noseyness, but also with regard to my

situation as well. I truly believe that my husband has done his best,

but his abilities are limited in this department, and I think I want

more out of life than someone who can only lean on me...but that's a

very difficult decision/thought process.

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You right you hit this one on the money. I did everything for the whole family

fixing things and alway helping others. This is way I am so pissed about this

today it's like I never did anything. My first house did not have a basement so

I dug one undre it and did all the work my self. If someones car, TV or washing

machine broke I would go and fix it. I just wish I could go back in time and

change all that I did for my so called family and friends. If I could do it all

over again I would use my freel time for myself. I would have gone fishing more

and done things with my hobbies and such.

Phil

T wrote:

I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR doing

everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and the

general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy and

disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

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Looking back all my blood work was screaming this yet not one Dr. seen

this. Now I am treating my low cortisol levels and Thyriod along with

my low DHEA.

>

> I still have a long way to go I am very fatigued all I do is get

up in the morning and sit here on the web. Can't do much more this

this to fatigued.

Phil,

All I can say is that I hope you get well soon!

Also, are you a member of Hormones & Health Naturally? If not, I

highly recommend it.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

Pat over there knows hormones! Some aren't thrilled with him because

he doesn't mince words & also because he chooses to remain anonymous &

he doesn't appear to be a dr. But for me, I don't care, because I've

learned a LOT there!

You're in my thoughts!

Warmly,

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Hopefully you will be well enough to take up those hobbies again soon,

Phil & use your time for yourself!

Warmly,

> I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE

over

> achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR

doing

> everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and the

> general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy and

> disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

>

>

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Yup!

What I wonder is how did those people who " used " our " services " sniff

us out? How did they KNOW from the start that we were that type of

person?

It baffles me how we pick out these people & they pick us as well.

Probably why friendships, relationships & marriages don't work out as

we change & grow.

And how do I get comfortable with people who are more willing to do

for me? Because I'm ready to seek out those who want more balance in

their lives.

Same goes for friends. I'm friends with a friend of my sister. She's

great fun - very funny, great sense of humor & she cares about me.

BUT, she's always on a schedule - always doing this & that. She has

time for other friends, but not to get together with me & my sister.

I've recently felt hurt by this. It's like she " trusts " that my

sister & I will " be there " & " understand " that she doesn't have time.

That's nice, but it's yet another form of imbalance. Unfortunately,

I think she's going to get written off...not in an angry way, but just

in a realistic way. She has no time to be my friend. (And probably

like many of us, I don't require a lot...)

Warmly,

>

> I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE over

> achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR

doing

> everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and the

> general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy and

> disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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Sorry should have said I monitor 4 men's health boards for low hormones. One at

Yahoo and I help out at STTM. Val here is my life saver she help me with the

thyroid and cortisol problems when I figured this out.

Phil

angesc2001 wrote:

>

Looking back all my blood work was screaming this yet not one Dr. seen

this. Now I am treating my low cortisol levels and Thyriod along with

my low DHEA.

>

> I still have a long way to go I am very fatigued all I do is get

up in the morning and sit here on the web. Can't do much more this

this to fatigued.

Phil,

All I can say is that I hope you get well soon!

Also, are you a member of Hormones & Health Naturally? If not, I

highly recommend it.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonesandHealth-Naturally/

Pat over there knows hormones! Some aren't thrilled with him because

he doesn't mince words & also because he chooses to remain anonymous &

he doesn't appear to be a dr. But for me, I don't care, because I've

learned a LOT there!

You're in my thoughts!

Warmly,

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Thank you I will and we all should we are in the same boat here.

Phil

angesc2001 wrote:

Hopefully you will be well enough to take up those hobbies again soon,

Phil & use your time for yourself!

Warmly,

> I think a huge part of the problem here is most of us WERE

over

> achievers in a past life, and the people around us got used to OUR

doing

> everything. Slowly we just stopped doing things one at a time and the

> general opinion at least of my acquaintances is that i got lazy and

> disinterested. they cannot possibly know how untrue that is.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

>

>

>

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I have yet to figure out how to fix and find appropriate relatrionships,

tus I live alone and do nto socialize at all. I really don't want to

anymore. Every time I make friends it is demands on me tht I can't

fulfil now. And I really don;t want to anymore. If I were to meet

someone that would enhance MY life that might be different but I am not

holding my breath. Phil I had the abusive relaioship going on when I was

at my sickest, in fact I am sure this relationsjip is what trashed my

adrenals.

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That is a same because we are not strong enough to fight back and what they did

made us even sicker.

Phil

wrote:

I have yet to figure out how to fix and find appropriate

relatrionships,

tus I live alone and do nto socialize at all. I really don't want to

anymore. Every time I make friends it is demands on me tht I can't

fulfil now. And I really don;t want to anymore. If I were to meet

someone that would enhance MY life that might be different but I am not

holding my breath. Phil I had the abusive relaioship going on when I was

at my sickest, in fact I am sure this relationsjip is what trashed my

adrenals.

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> > Yes I feel your pain been sick over 23 yrs.

>

> Phil, I'm sorry that you've been going through this for so long. I

> can't imagine how hard that must be.

>

> the more Dr.'s I see the less anyone can care. It is so bad with

> friends and family I don't talk about it anymore.

>

> I've recently decided that I need to stop talking about it. This is

> particularly hard for me, because it's not just bitching that I do,

> but I'm also very excited about things that I've learned that may

> improve my life or possible even cure my ills. Everyone just glazes

> over, and I'm thinking, I know that they're bored to death with me

> talking about it, but wouldn't they be excited if I were better?!

>

> Not long ago I get real sick I told my wife and got that look so I

> just got up and drove myself to the ER. Never was missed come home

> and went to bed no one said anything. Not long ago I told my wife

if

> you ever get sick and need my help good luck. I

>

> Phil, I'm going to ask you a very personal question that you don't

> need to answer if you don't want to. Why do you stay with your

wife?

> I don't just ask out of noseyness, but also with regard to my

> situation as well. I truly believe that my husband has done his

best,

> but his abilities are limited in this department, and I think I

want

> more out of life than someone who can only lean on me...but that's

a

> very difficult decision/thought process.

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

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I find this thread quite interesting at this time because I have just begun a

journey of personal healing and have come to find more and more that almost all

illness/disease is emotionally and stress based. I am currently reading a book

by Barbara Brennan, a well known energy healer and this book has taught me a

lot. I have come to learn about energy patterns and how and why we make certain

choices which attract people into our lives who will repeat the same things that

continue to cause us pain. In essence, she says it stems from childhood and

that we usually will attract friends, partners, etc. who will keep feeding

childhood patterns so we can keep feeling the way we were used to then. There

is a lot more to it though and a lot of it has to do not so much with what

others do " to us " , or what we perceive as happening " to us " , but rather, how we

choose to respond. We need to heal on an emotional/spiritual level and then we

can begin attracting positive and healthy relationships with friends, employers

and partners. This takes a lot of deep work and usually, some help from an

energy healer of some form, or even reading some of Dr. Deepak Chopra's books or

books like " anatomy of an illness " . There are many out there. Meditation in

its true form alone can create a lot of this healing and help create the lives

and health we want. I felt like sharing since I've been reading this book all

day. I've made an appt. with an energy healer who works sort of like Barbara

Brennan and have an appt. on March 27th.

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

That is a same because we are not strong enough to fight back and what they

did made us even sicker.

Phil

wrote:

I have yet to figure out how to fix and find appropriate relatrionships,

tus I live alone and do nto socialize at all. I really don't want to

anymore. Every time I make friends it is demands on me tht I can't

fulfil now. And I really don;t want to anymore. If I were to meet

someone that would enhance MY life that might be different but I am not

holding my breath. Phil I had the abusive relaioship going on when I was

at my sickest, in fact I am sure this relationsjip is what trashed my

adrenals.

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This is called " DIABETES INSIPIDUS "

Re: Personal issue - friends dropping like flies?

> >

> > Yes I feel your pain been sick over 23 yrs.

>

> Phil, I'm sorry that you've been going through this for so long. I

> can't imagine how hard that must be.

>

> the more Dr.'s I see the less anyone can care. It is so bad with

> friends and family I don't talk about it anymore.

>

> I've recently decided that I need to stop talking about it. This is

> particularly hard for me, because it's not just bitching that I do,

> but I'm also very excited about things that I've learned that may

> improve my life or possible even cure my ills. Everyone just glazes

> over, and I'm thinking, I know that they're bored to death with me

> talking about it, but wouldn't they be excited if I were better?!

>

> Not long ago I get real sick I told my wife and got that look so I

> just got up and drove myself to the ER. Never was missed come home

> and went to bed no one said anything. Not long ago I told my wife

if

> you ever get sick and need my help good luck. I

>

> Phil, I'm going to ask you a very personal question that you don't

> need to answer if you don't want to. Why do you stay with your

wife?

> I don't just ask out of noseyness, but also with regard to my

> situation as well. I truly believe that my husband has done his

best,

> but his abilities are limited in this department, and I think I

want

> more out of life than someone who can only lean on me...but that's

a

> very difficult decision/thought process.

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.

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Yes it's hard but we are getting there talk about this girl and her water. I

can't take the heat and feel hot alot and sweat when other are cold. I started

doing Sea Salt and this helps but still I had my Dr. do some testing they came

back low normal so here we go again trying to get him to treat how I feel and

just use the ranges of the test as a tool.

Phil

Janis wrote:

> >

> > Yes I feel your pain been sick over 23 yrs.

>

> Phil, I'm sorry that you've been going through this for so long. I

> can't imagine how hard that must be.

>

> the more Dr.'s I see the less anyone can care. It is so bad with

> friends and family I don't talk about it anymore.

>

> I've recently decided that I need to stop talking about it. This is

> particularly hard for me, because it's not just bitching that I do,

> but I'm also very excited about things that I've learned that may

> improve my life or possible even cure my ills. Everyone just glazes

> over, and I'm thinking, I know that they're bored to death with me

> talking about it, but wouldn't they be excited if I were better?!

>

> Not long ago I get real sick I told my wife and got that look so I

> just got up and drove myself to the ER. Never was missed come home

> and went to bed no one said anything. Not long ago I told my wife

if

> you ever get sick and need my help good luck. I

>

> Phil, I'm going to ask you a very personal question that you don't

> need to answer if you don't want to. Why do you stay with your

wife?

> I don't just ask out of noseyness, but also with regard to my

> situation as well. I truly believe that my husband has done his

best,

> but his abilities are limited in this department, and I think I

want

> more out of life than someone who can only lean on me...but that's

a

> very difficult decision/thought process.

>

> Warmly,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.

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Let us know how it goes...I'll be eager to hear about it!

Warmly,

> I have yet to figure out how to fix and find appropriate

relatrionships,

> tus I live alone and do nto socialize at all. I really don't want to

> anymore. Every time I make friends it is demands on me tht I can't

> fulfil now. And I really don;t want to anymore. If I were to meet

> someone that would enhance MY life that might be different but I

am not

> holding my breath. Phil I had the abusive relaioship going on when

I was

> at my sickest, in fact I am sure this relationsjip is what trashed my

> adrenals.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

>

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> I have yet to figure out how to fix and find appropriate

relatrionships,

> tus I live alone and do nto socialize at all. I really don't want

to

> anymore. Every time I make friends it is demands on me tht I can't

> fulfil now. And I really don;t want to anymore. If I were to meet

> someone that would enhance MY life that might be different but I

am not

> holding my breath. Phil I had the abusive relaioship going on when

I was

> at my sickest, in fact I am sure this relationsjip is what trashed

my

> adrenals.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane

WV

Janis: Val, the same thing happened to me but mine was more

subtle. Everyone else saw it but me. I was in denial for a long

time. My ex was emotionally abusive which can be worse than

physical. The scars were there but hidden beneath the surface. In

fact, it took me 6 months to even entertain the possibility that

stress from a dysfunctional marriage was the cause of my illness. I

thought I had it all under control all the while ruining my adrenals

by stuffing all of my feelings. I didn't realize how a failed 22

year marriage would ruin my desire to get involved with anyone

else. Afterall, I gave my all to this relationship and I was well

at the time, young, and I believed we would always be together. Now

I am older, with an illness that limits my abilities in so many

ways. Who would want someone in this condition? I am too afraid to

try at this point although being alone is no fun either. :(

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

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