Re:some discoveries: *LONG*

[Guest guest]

LUV this press :) So very true too - ehugs, Katcha

>

> Sometimes I get the impression that people think they're doing IE

> wrong if they're NOT losing weight.

> It seems like some people turn it into a diet or put all kinds of

> rules on it-- " the correct IE way is to not be a plate cleaner, take 2

> bites, only eat when your stomach is hollow and your colon is empty "

>

> What the hell is a normal eater anyway? If YOU are a plate cleaner,

> that's how you are. Instead of trying to change your behavior to fit

> someone else's idea, work with it instead.

> If you only want a bite of something, great, but it doesn't mean the

> sky will open up and a ray of light will shine on ya.

> Don't know if I'm making sense?

[Guest guest]

Right on the money CW!!! Happy to read that you are hanging in there

for YOU. Best to you - Katcha

>

> Jen -

> I agree with you. IE is not about weight loss, calories or rules.

It is about normalizing your relationship with food, learning to love

your body THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY MOMENT and taking good

care of yourself because you are worth it. And you are worth it just

because you exist, for no other reason.

>

> Diet mentality still creeps in for me, even though I work really

hard at not counting things, bargaining for food (if I eat this now,

I'll have carrots later) or beating myself up when I eat when I'm not

hungry. It is a long slow process, and I've had more downs than ups

lately, but the thing that keeps me trying is the support on this

board, a great IE support group run by an IE therapist and reminding

myself that the other way never worked, so I should give this a chance

to develop.

>

> Thanks for the great way you posted a gentle reminder for me about

what I'm aiming for.

> Peace, CW

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Right on the money CW!!! Happy to read that you are hanging in there

for YOU. Best to you - Katcha

>

> Jen -

> I agree with you. IE is not about weight loss, calories or rules.

It is about normalizing your relationship with food, learning to love

your body THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW AT THIS VERY MOMENT and taking good

care of yourself because you are worth it. And you are worth it just

because you exist, for no other reason.

>

> Diet mentality still creeps in for me, even though I work really

hard at not counting things, bargaining for food (if I eat this now,

I'll have carrots later) or beating myself up when I eat when I'm not

hungry. It is a long slow process, and I've had more downs than ups

lately, but the thing that keeps me trying is the support on this

board, a great IE support group run by an IE therapist and reminding

myself that the other way never worked, so I should give this a chance

to develop.

>

> Thanks for the great way you posted a gentle reminder for me about

what I'm aiming for.

> Peace, CW

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Michele, I don't remember feeling that you were insensitive in any of

your posts. But I do know what I think you mean about starting to see

and appreciate the 'other side of the coin' regarding eating issue. We

learn more from IE than just eating Katcha

>

> I wanted to comment on this. I may have been

> insensitive in posting my current weight loss

> accomplishment, especially for those who really aren't

> using this as a form of weight loss.

>

> I can see how it can be stressful to those who need to

> heal themselves with food (anorexic's or bulimic's or

> whatever label you want to use).

>

> I just wanted to say I am sorry if I have been

> insensitive to others' journeys and not thought how it

> made others feel to be proud.

>

> Michele

>

[Guest guest]

Michele, I don't remember feeling that you were insensitive in any of

your posts. But I do know what I think you mean about starting to see

and appreciate the 'other side of the coin' regarding eating issue. We

learn more from IE than just eating Katcha

>

> I wanted to comment on this. I may have been

> insensitive in posting my current weight loss

> accomplishment, especially for those who really aren't

> using this as a form of weight loss.

>

> I can see how it can be stressful to those who need to

> heal themselves with food (anorexic's or bulimic's or

> whatever label you want to use).

>

> I just wanted to say I am sorry if I have been

> insensitive to others' journeys and not thought how it

> made others feel to be proud.

>

> Michele

>

[Guest guest]

press182 wrote:

> It seems like some people turn it into a diet or put all kinds of

> rules on it-- " the correct IE way is to not be a plate cleaner, take 2

> bites, only eat when your stomach is hollow and your colon is empty "

It seems that there are a lot of musts and shoulds tied to normal eating

as well. :-)

All these musts and shoulds are overwhelming me. " You MUST learn how to

handle your feelings. " " You MUST make peace with food or you won't be a

normal eater. "

Sometimes it REALLY feels like just changing one set of rules for

another.

It's hard not to turn IE into a diet when there are of lot of musts

included.

Regards

s.

[Guest guest]

Exactly!

Or " you should only want to eat healthy foods forever and ever after

making friends with food. "

It's like if you don't you haven't reached " enlightenment " . LOL!

>

> > It seems like some people turn it into a diet or put all kinds of

> > rules on it-- " the correct IE way is to not be a plate cleaner,

take 2

> > bites, only eat when your stomach is hollow and your colon is

empty "

>

> It seems that there are a lot of musts and shoulds tied to normal

eating

> as well. :-)

>

> All these musts and shoulds are overwhelming me. " You MUST learn

how to

> handle your feelings. " " You MUST make peace with food or you won't

be a

> normal eater. "

>

> Sometimes it REALLY feels like just changing one set of rules for

> another.

>

> It's hard not to turn IE into a diet when there are of lot of musts

> included.

>

> Regards

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

press182 wrote:

> Or " you should only want to eat healthy foods forever and ever after

> making friends with food. "

> It's like if you don't you haven't reached " enlightenment " . LOL!

Exactly.

Our bodies SHOULD only want healthy foods, so SHOULD our minds. If they

don't, we're failures.

Or another one I have to struggle with right now: everytime I want

something unhealthy to eat I'm disrespecting my body. I SHOULDN'T want

something unhealthy to eat because it's bad for my body.

Regards

s.

[Guest guest]

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>

> Or another one I have to struggle with right now: everytime I want

> something unhealthy to eat I'm disrespecting my body. I SHOULDN'T want

> something unhealthy to eat because it's bad for my body.

>

> Regards

> s.

>

Struggling with that one, too babe. However, I've been thinking this

way: Beating myself up over what goes in my mouth is causing me stress,

stress in turn releases cortisol, which in turn causes inflammation and

disease. So stop stressing.

Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. LOL!

[Guest guest]

press182 wrote:

> However, I've been thinking this

> way: Beating myself up over what goes in my mouth is causing me stress,

> stress in turn releases cortisol, which in turn causes inflammation and

> disease. So stop stressing.

> Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. LOL!

Exactly. :-)

Regards

s.