Re: Here's Thea

[Guest guest]

I guess great minds think alike. <smile> Well, it's that time here in the

eastern US, so, nighty-nite.

Dave

Re: Here's Thea

Dave, now you know where the cake came from in " Pink Rosettes " . It was a

wish fulfillment dream after I was diagnosed, in which I was raptured

into Heaven and stood across from Jesus at a big table with an ornately

decorated cake made of all a type 2's no-nos.

(Pink Rosettes is a story I submitted to the writers lists Dave and I

belong to. It's about a child's experience of the Rapture. There's a

diabetic character in the story too, who of course in Heaven is no

longer diabetic.)

Anyhoo, fancy meeting you here, Dave.

Thea

[Guest guest]

I guess great minds think alike. <smile> Well, it's that time here in the

eastern US, so, nighty-nite.

Dave

Re: Here's Thea

Dave, now you know where the cake came from in " Pink Rosettes " . It was a

wish fulfillment dream after I was diagnosed, in which I was raptured

into Heaven and stood across from Jesus at a big table with an ornately

decorated cake made of all a type 2's no-nos.

(Pink Rosettes is a story I submitted to the writers lists Dave and I

belong to. It's about a child's experience of the Rapture. There's a

diabetic character in the story too, who of course in Heaven is no

longer diabetic.)

Anyhoo, fancy meeting you here, Dave.

Thea

[Guest guest]

PTL I don't live there. I'd never make it. LOL

Thea

[Guest guest]

Hi pat,

Happy birthday on Monday. Mine's on Tuesday. I will be 55 and proud of it.

sharon

Here's Thea

>

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was on

> Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight that

> I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide.

> Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My diabetes is

> really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi pat,

Happy birthday on Monday. Mine's on Tuesday. I will be 55 and proud of it.

sharon

Here's Thea

>

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was on

> Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight that

> I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide.

> Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My diabetes is

> really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your message is truly inspirational. I wish my youngest daughter would

listen to you. She had gestational diabetes a long time ago, and today she

is around 100 pounds over weight. However if I send her messages with good

advice in them, she considers me to be an imposing smart ass. So I do not

bother any more with giving any advice at all to her.

I just quietly watch her health deteriorate month after month and year after

year. It is sad, but true. She resents any one telling her what to do at

all times. I offer my advice to her as I do here. This is my advice now,

and you can take it or leave it as you wish. Whenever I learn that what

advice I offer is wrong, then I correct it to bring it up to date. Just

because my advice works for me and most other people, does not mean it will

work for you. One thing for sure I know is, if you do not try it, it

definitely will not work.

I am tempted to send her a copy of this message, but if I wish to have

communication with her for the next six months, I had better not. Oh, what

the hell, she rarely wishes to speak to me any way, so I will send it.

Re: Here's Thea

> My diabetes was caused by obesity. I was told I might become permanently

> diabetic if I didn't lose weight after I had gestational diabetes. I

> didn't lose weight, and got the diabetes, right on schedule. Silly me.

> I just stopped doing alot of things I used to do:

> 1. Used to eat a whole bag of chocolate chip cookies and drink a huge

> glass of milk every night before bed. My hubby and I would share a whole

> bag.

> Don't do it any more.

> 2. Used to eat to capacity, and my big tummy had a big capacity.

> CDon't do it any more.

> 3. Used to eat lots of breads and pastas, pastries and all the high

> calorie players.

> Don't do it any more.

> 4. Didn't exercise.

> Still don't. Sorry that's the last rebel outpost. I just can't get off

> my butt to go for a boring walk when my fingers do the walking all

> day--on the computer, reading email, writing email, and I'm a writer as

> well. At least while doing this, I'm not eating.

> 5. Eat more protein, less carbs. Yeah, let's end this on a positive

> note.

> And, after my second to last A1C, my dr told me to stop depriving

> myself, bc I was turning into the wicked witch of the West, eating

> boring boring boring. However, in total, I've gone from 212 to 133

> pounds in less than a year.

> I'd be slimmer if I wasn't on a tricyclic antidepressant that makes me

> so constipated that I can't have a BM without a laxative. Yeah, I've

> tried everything else: water (which just retains), papaya, prune juice,

> all under dr. supervision. Stool softeners too. Nothing works. But when

> I'm off the meds, things spiral down quickly.

> OK, enough of my life story.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your message is truly inspirational. I wish my youngest daughter would

listen to you. She had gestational diabetes a long time ago, and today she

is around 100 pounds over weight. However if I send her messages with good

advice in them, she considers me to be an imposing smart ass. So I do not

bother any more with giving any advice at all to her.

I just quietly watch her health deteriorate month after month and year after

year. It is sad, but true. She resents any one telling her what to do at

all times. I offer my advice to her as I do here. This is my advice now,

and you can take it or leave it as you wish. Whenever I learn that what

advice I offer is wrong, then I correct it to bring it up to date. Just

because my advice works for me and most other people, does not mean it will

work for you. One thing for sure I know is, if you do not try it, it

definitely will not work.

I am tempted to send her a copy of this message, but if I wish to have

communication with her for the next six months, I had better not. Oh, what

the hell, she rarely wishes to speak to me any way, so I will send it.

Re: Here's Thea

> My diabetes was caused by obesity. I was told I might become permanently

> diabetic if I didn't lose weight after I had gestational diabetes. I

> didn't lose weight, and got the diabetes, right on schedule. Silly me.

> I just stopped doing alot of things I used to do:

> 1. Used to eat a whole bag of chocolate chip cookies and drink a huge

> glass of milk every night before bed. My hubby and I would share a whole

> bag.

> Don't do it any more.

> 2. Used to eat to capacity, and my big tummy had a big capacity.

> CDon't do it any more.

> 3. Used to eat lots of breads and pastas, pastries and all the high

> calorie players.

> Don't do it any more.

> 4. Didn't exercise.

> Still don't. Sorry that's the last rebel outpost. I just can't get off

> my butt to go for a boring walk when my fingers do the walking all

> day--on the computer, reading email, writing email, and I'm a writer as

> well. At least while doing this, I'm not eating.

> 5. Eat more protein, less carbs. Yeah, let's end this on a positive

> note.

> And, after my second to last A1C, my dr told me to stop depriving

> myself, bc I was turning into the wicked witch of the West, eating

> boring boring boring. However, in total, I've gone from 212 to 133

> pounds in less than a year.

> I'd be slimmer if I wasn't on a tricyclic antidepressant that makes me

> so constipated that I can't have a BM without a laxative. Yeah, I've

> tried everything else: water (which just retains), papaya, prune juice,

> all under dr. supervision. Stool softeners too. Nothing works. But when

> I'm off the meds, things spiral down quickly.

> OK, enough of my life story.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Thee, Welcome to the list. Feel free to ask questions. If one of use

knows well respond. If we don't one of us will usually research it. People

on this list will help. They will take issue on neglect. Take care .

P.S. can I come and visit?

Here's Thea

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was on

> Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight that

> I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide.

> Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My diabetes is

> really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Thee, Welcome to the list. Feel free to ask questions. If one of use

knows well respond. If we don't one of us will usually research it. People

on this list will help. They will take issue on neglect. Take care .

P.S. can I come and visit?

Here's Thea

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was on

> Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight that

> I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide.

> Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My diabetes is

> really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Happy birthday, younster! I'll be 63-and proud of it too!

Re: Here's Thea

Hi pat,

Happy birthday on Monday. Mine's on Tuesday. I will be 55 and proud of it.

sharon

Here's Thea

>

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was on

> Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight that

> I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide.

> Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My diabetes is

> really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Happy birthday, younster! I'll be 63-and proud of it too!

Re: Here's Thea

Hi pat,

Happy birthday on Monday. Mine's on Tuesday. I will be 55 and proud of it.

sharon

Here's Thea

>

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was on

> Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight that

> I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide.

> Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My diabetes is

> really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Harry. Problem is, I didn't listen either--until I actually got

sick. When I was first told, after my daughter was born, I figured, Ah,

what the hell, if I do get it, I'll be in my 60's or so. Plenty of time

to party.

Guess what? Before turned eight, I was diagnosed. That's when I

woke up and smelled the coffee. I was pretty mad at first, but it's the

best thing God ever did for me, besides dying on the cross and all. I

needed that wake up call. Now I weigh less than I ever thought I would.

I had to go out and buy new, ahem, smaller clothes, and that felt good.

I do have a weakness for chocolate, but I don't indulge in it nearly as

often, and when I do, I appreciate it alot more. I don't miss the

breads, potatoes, and pastas.

At home, I do pretty well, and I stay away from social functions that

revolve around food bc I still haven't figured out how to handle them,

though that's the next thing. Our church has a Thanksgiving dinner, and

we're going. Rob and I were diagnosed around this time last year, I

don't think we went--being newly diagnosed and uncomfortable around food

situations.

I'd hate to see your daughter get sick, but for me, diabetes was one of

the best wake up calls I ever got. I know that sounds weird but there it

is.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Harry. Problem is, I didn't listen either--until I actually got

sick. When I was first told, after my daughter was born, I figured, Ah,

what the hell, if I do get it, I'll be in my 60's or so. Plenty of time

to party.

Guess what? Before turned eight, I was diagnosed. That's when I

woke up and smelled the coffee. I was pretty mad at first, but it's the

best thing God ever did for me, besides dying on the cross and all. I

needed that wake up call. Now I weigh less than I ever thought I would.

I had to go out and buy new, ahem, smaller clothes, and that felt good.

I do have a weakness for chocolate, but I don't indulge in it nearly as

often, and when I do, I appreciate it alot more. I don't miss the

breads, potatoes, and pastas.

At home, I do pretty well, and I stay away from social functions that

revolve around food bc I still haven't figured out how to handle them,

though that's the next thing. Our church has a Thanksgiving dinner, and

we're going. Rob and I were diagnosed around this time last year, I

don't think we went--being newly diagnosed and uncomfortable around food

situations.

I'd hate to see your daughter get sick, but for me, diabetes was one of

the best wake up calls I ever got. I know that sounds weird but there it

is.

[Guest guest]

Hi, . You wrote P.S. can I come and visit?

LOL. I guess it's getting cold. Party's at Auntie Thea's. In Hawaii,

women are called Auntie once they reach a certain age. Hahaha.

Aloha to all

[Guest guest]

Hi, . You wrote P.S. can I come and visit?

LOL. I guess it's getting cold. Party's at Auntie Thea's. In Hawaii,

women are called Auntie once they reach a certain age. Hahaha.

Aloha to all

[Guest guest]

Well, happy birthday to the both of you youngsters...

I turned 64 in September...

Cy, the aAncient Okie....

Re: Here's Thea

Hi pat,

Happy birthday on Monday. Mine's on Tuesday. I will be 55 and proud of

it.

sharon

Here's Thea

>

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was

> on Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight

> that I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide. Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My

> diabetes is really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Let's go back to the chicken and dumplings if you don't mind. Could I

have another serving?

I would not mind a nice piece of Shoe Fly Pie either...

Cy, the Ancient Okie...

Re: Here's Thea

Thea,

Here in Lancaster County Pennsylvania we know a thing or 2 about the

sins of the tummy. For instance, shu-fly pie, funnel cake, chicken and

dumplings, fried ice cream (not really sure what that is), in general,

people come here from all over to eat Pennsylvania Dutch cooking. Oh,

did I mention that little town called Hershey about half an hour away?

The products of that particular town have caused my wife no small amount

of difficulty over the years, specifically when referring to chocolate

chip cookies.

Dave

Re: Here's Thea

, you're probably used to type 1, but I don't envy you. As a

type 2 I'm grateful I had 39 years, roughly, to indulge in sins of the

tummy. I worked with a type 1 lady who was always so isolated at

social

functions, even stayed away from the cafeteria. This was in my

pre-diabetic days. We all worked as Braille proofreaders at CNIB, and

the sweets and carbs were always going around: Christmas, birthdays

every time you turned around, baby showers, promotions, everything

revolved around food.

Here in Hawaii, it's the same. I feel kind of left out now bc I can no

longer enjoy a luau. I mean the whole point of a luau is food.

Hawaiian culture is so wrapped up in food, and I don't mean carrots

and

celery. Our church has social occasions my husband and I don't attend

because sins of the tummy are the ever present pivotal point around

the

social occasions.

Bring our own? Nah. Neither of us drives, so that would present a

problem.

I've really accepted this diabetes thing with grace, huh? Not.

But I guess I get along tolerably.

Thea

[Guest guest]

thee, try a ripe pear. it works every time for me, smile. karen from canada

Re: Here's Thea

> My diabetes was caused by obesity. I was told I might become permanently

> diabetic if I didn't lose weight after I had gestational diabetes. I

> didn't lose weight, and got the diabetes, right on schedule. Silly me.

> I just stopped doing alot of things I used to do:

> 1. Used to eat a whole bag of chocolate chip cookies and drink a huge

> glass of milk every night before bed. My hubby and I would share a whole

> bag.

> Don't do it any more.

> 2. Used to eat to capacity, and my big tummy had a big capacity.

> CDon't do it any more.

> 3. Used to eat lots of breads and pastas, pastries and all the high

> calorie players.

> Don't do it any more.

> 4. Didn't exercise.

> Still don't. Sorry that's the last rebel outpost. I just can't get off

> my butt to go for a boring walk when my fingers do the walking all

> day--on the computer, reading email, writing email, and I'm a writer as

> well. At least while doing this, I'm not eating.

> 5. Eat more protein, less carbs. Yeah, let's end this on a positive

> note.

> And, after my second to last A1C, my dr told me to stop depriving

> myself, bc I was turning into the wicked witch of the West, eating

> boring boring boring. However, in total, I've gone from 212 to 133

> pounds in less than a year.

> I'd be slimmer if I wasn't on a tricyclic antidepressant that makes me

> so constipated that I can't have a BM without a laxative. Yeah, I've

> tried everything else: water (which just retains), papaya, prune juice,

> all under dr. supervision. Stool softeners too. Nothing works. But when

> I'm off the meds, things spiral down quickly.

> OK, enough of my life story.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You wrote,

thee, try a ripe pear. it works every time for me, smile. karen from

canada

Yeah, but you're not on a tricyclic, are you? This is a med problem, and

nothing works. Before this stuff messed me up, I could go no problem.

I've tried fruit. Nothing works. I either have to get off the tricyclic

antidepressants--I've tried SSRI's too, but they make me nauseous--and

deal with those consequences, or stay on them, and deal with intractable

constipation.

Thea

[Guest guest]

You wrote,

thee, try a ripe pear. it works every time for me, smile. karen from

canada

Yeah, but you're not on a tricyclic, are you? This is a med problem, and

nothing works. Before this stuff messed me up, I could go no problem.

I've tried fruit. Nothing works. I either have to get off the tricyclic

antidepressants--I've tried SSRI's too, but they make me nauseous--and

deal with those consequences, or stay on them, and deal with intractable

constipation.

Thea

[Guest guest]

Thank you!

Re: Here's Thea

Hi pat,

Happy birthday on Monday. Mine's on Tuesday. I will be 55 and proud of

it.

sharon

Here's Thea

>

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was

> on Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight

> that I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide. Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My

> diabetes is really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you!

Re: Here's Thea

Hi pat,

Happy birthday on Monday. Mine's on Tuesday. I will be 55 and proud of

it.

sharon

Here's Thea

>

> Aloha, all. I'm Thea, from Maui, Hawaii.

> I was born blind and diagnosed with type II diabetes last year. I was

> on Metformin for a few months, and lost so much of my excessive weight

> that I was able to go off it. My husband has type II as well and takes

> Glycozide. Hopefully I can contribute and/or learn from the group. My

> diabetes is really well controlled now.

> Thea

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't eat cake, Thee. I do pumplin pie made with Splenda! But will

probably not do that until Thanksgiving day anyway. Am going to a fish

place for dinner tonight and to a movie (no popcorn!).

Re: Here's Thea

Woops, Pat, forgot to wish you happy birthday.

How do you handle the birthday cake thing?

Thea

[Guest guest]

I don't eat cake, Thee. I do pumplin pie made with Splenda! But will

probably not do that until Thanksgiving day anyway. Am going to a fish

place for dinner tonight and to a movie (no popcorn!).

Re: Here's Thea

Woops, Pat, forgot to wish you happy birthday.

How do you handle the birthday cake thing?

Thea

[Guest guest]

Yes, Thee, food is big part of culture, but I figure my health is worth more

than a mouthful of poi or pineapple! However, I don't cut everything out.

I just eat small amounts. The nice thing about type 1 diabetes is that you

really can cover what you eat by taking extra insulin, while type 2

diabetics do not have that choice. If you eat some bad carbs, it make take

2 days for your sugar to get back down to normal, whereas an extra dose of

insulincan get it wond quickly. However, this is not good to do frequently

as one would then gain weight.

Re: Here's Thea

, you're probably used to type 1, but I don't envy you. As a

type 2 I'm grateful I had 39 years, roughly, to indulge in sins of the

tummy. I worked with a type 1 lady who was always so isolated at social

functions, even stayed away from the cafeteria. This was in my

pre-diabetic days. We all worked as Braille proofreaders at CNIB, and

the sweets and carbs were always going around: Christmas, birthdays

every time you turned around, baby showers, promotions, everything

revolved around food.

Here in Hawaii, it's the same. I feel kind of left out now bc I can no

longer enjoy a luau. I mean the whole point of a luau is food.

Hawaiian culture is so wrapped up in food, and I don't mean carrots and

celery. Our church has social occasions my husband and I don't attend

because sins of the tummy are the ever present pivotal point around the

social occasions.

Bring our own? Nah. Neither of us drives, so that would present a

problem.

I've really accepted this diabetes thing with grace, huh? Not.

But I guess I get along tolerably.

Thea