Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I know what you're saying, Press, and you're absolutely right - 1/2 c cereal is not enough to refuel after an hour-long workout. I think perhaps Emma meant that when a person exercises regularly, they are less likely to overeat, or to eat more than they need. That's the way I read it, anyway. press182 wrote: This I don't agree with AT ALL. If you are training HARD your body needs the nutrients. Exercising intensly for long periods of time with little food causes the body to be depleated.I think this post forgets something called exercise induced amenorrhea and the female athlete triad. It's all about energy balance. Activity level and intake need to be balanced out. You wanna get skinny? Easy. Stop eating and exercise enough to burn off what you ate.Hmmm.. I guess the half cup of bran cereal I used to eat was PLENTY with the 1 of intense cardio and circuit workouts I was doing 6 days a week. Silly me?> Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. > > I no longer "crave" that full-to-capacity feeling that you get when you leave a buffet and then go to sleep cause that's the only way your body knows how to handle the food. A lot of times people stuff themselves purley for emotional reasons, unless they have some physical disorder where their brains cannot regulate hormones to let them know when they're full.> > I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, "Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by" - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically...> > Anyhow, good luck everyone! Intuitive eating is just that: tapping into your mental intuition and that is not easy to come by.> > > Emma Kydd> > ...lost a lot this week and continuing to lose (weight and emotional baggage!)> > Palmer wrote:> That is a fantastic idea, Emma!> > Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (like> peer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish that> other half of the meal because if you don't finish it> then you know you'll be taking in less calories?> > How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normal> > > > Palmer wrote: That is a fantastic idea, Emma!> > Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (like> peer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish that> other half of the meal because if you don't finish it> then you know you'll be taking in less calories?> > How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normal> amount of food and only eat half before taking an> assessment? Or do you only put half of what you> normally would on your plate?> > I think this could potentially work for me because I> tend to eat most everything on my plate. If I'm> really trying I'll leave a few bites but certainly not> 50%. Right now I have an idea to check in but it> doesn't always work out, especially if I'm fairly> hungry when I get to the meal.> > > > --- Emma Fergusson wrote:> > > I "half" most of meals before checking in to see if> > I'm still hungry. That "eat 50% of what's before you> > and WAIT to see if you're still hungry" approach has> > helped me shed pounds since being on IE. It's not> > about portion control, calorie counting or dieting.> > It's about paying attention to what I truly feel> > (physically). Most of the times, I am not interested> > in the rest of my meal. I find I am thirsty a lot> > and used to confuse thirst with hunger.> > > > > > Emma> > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Either way, there are lots of people on here recovering from anorexia and bulemia and they don't some preachy comment about " you don't need to eat so much " . My example is extreme. However, there are some who seriously undereat and overexercise. It's common in women. > > > > > I " half " most of meals before checking in to see if > > > I'm still hungry. That " eat 50% of what's before you > > > and WAIT to see if you're still hungry " approach has > > > helped me shed pounds since being on IE. It's not > > > about portion control, calorie counting or dieting. > > > It's about paying attention to what I truly feel > > > (physically). Most of the times, I am not interested > > > in the rest of my meal. I find I am thirsty a lot > > > and used to confuse thirst with hunger. > > > > > > > > > Emma > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Good point - and a point well taken. There were different paths got all of us here, so while Emma's comment really made sense me, I can see why you disagreed. press182 wrote: Either way, there are lots of people on here recovering from anorexia and bulemia and they don't some preachy comment about "you don't need to eat so much".My example is extreme. However, there are some who seriously undereat and overexercise. It's common in women. . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Good point - and a point well taken. There were different paths got all of us here, so while Emma's comment really made sense me, I can see why you disagreed. press182 wrote: Either way, there are lots of people on here recovering from anorexia and bulemia and they don't some preachy comment about "you don't need to eat so much".My example is extreme. However, there are some who seriously undereat and overexercise. It's common in women. . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 There are also 2 former fitness competitors on this board. Ask them about exercise and not eating food. Ask them about their sodium depleating diets etc. What about the women who are coming here after years of getting judged on their size? Don't they hear the same thing? " You eat too much, What are you eating? " etc. etc. They don't need this right now either. Either way, there are lots of people on here recovering from anorexia > and bulemia and they don't some preachy comment about " you don't need > to eat so much " . > > My example is extreme. However, there are some who seriously undereat > and overexercise. It's common in women. > > > > > Recent Activity > > 16 > New Members > > 2 > New Links > > Visit Your Group > FruitaBü Parents > on Yahoo! Groups > teaching families > how to eat healthy. > > Sitebuilder > Build a web site > quickly & easily > with Sitebuilder. > > Fitness Edge > A Yahoo! Group > about sharing fitness > and endurance goals. > > > > . > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 There are also 2 former fitness competitors on this board. Ask them about exercise and not eating food. Ask them about their sodium depleating diets etc. What about the women who are coming here after years of getting judged on their size? Don't they hear the same thing? " You eat too much, What are you eating? " etc. etc. They don't need this right now either. Either way, there are lots of people on here recovering from anorexia > and bulemia and they don't some preachy comment about " you don't need > to eat so much " . > > My example is extreme. However, there are some who seriously undereat > and overexercise. It's common in women. > > > > > Recent Activity > > 16 > New Members > > 2 > New Links > > Visit Your Group > FruitaBü Parents > on Yahoo! Groups > teaching families > how to eat healthy. > > Sitebuilder > Build a web site > quickly & easily > with Sitebuilder. > > Fitness Edge > A Yahoo! Group > about sharing fitness > and endurance goals. > > > > . > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Have you ever heard the expression, " your eyes are bigger than your stomach " ? That's what your post reminded me of. My mom used to always tell me that. And then of course make me eat everything that I took and clean my plate. Gotta love those rules! :-) Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com At 01:39 AM 10/24/2007, you wrote: Hey , I used to " eat with my eyes. " In other words, I would think I needed a heaping plate of food, but when I would begin to eat, less than half way through the meal, I would be stuffed - and feeling sick! So when I started IE, I decided to work against the guilt-ridden " eating everything on your plate b/c there are starving children in Africa " syndrome. Now, sometimes, I won't obey it, but I pay attention to when I don't and have conversations with myself that - it's ok to sometimes eat out of necessity (because you will be in a meeting) or emotions (eating a piece of cake at my one-year old nephew's birthday party). I eat half mostly based on how my stomach feels and not my mind. It's hard to separate the two. But the portions are normal and sometimes if I am not starving and want to eat an elephant, I will serve myself on small plates at home and eat only half of everything on the plate - wait to see if I'm still hungry and either eat the rest, share the rest with my husband or put the rest away. At restaurants I will order a bunch of appetizers, or split a meal with my husband (or in a lot of cases, ask for the lunch portion). I will still only eat 50% of most because a lot of the time I only want a " taste " of what's before me and I'm not actually hungry for food, if you get my meaning. Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. I no longer " crave " that full-to-capacity feeling that you get when you leave a buffet and then go to sleep cause that's the only way your body knows how to handle the food. A lot of times people stuff themselves purley for emotional reasons, unless they have some physical disorder where their brains cannot regulate hormones to let them know when they're full. I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, " Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by " - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically... Anyhow, good luck everyone! Intuitive eating is just that: tapping into your mental intuition and that is not easy to come by. Emma Kydd ....lost a lot this week and continuing to lose (weight and emotional baggage!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Have you ever heard the expression, " your eyes are bigger than your stomach " ? That's what your post reminded me of. My mom used to always tell me that. And then of course make me eat everything that I took and clean my plate. Gotta love those rules! :-) Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com At 01:39 AM 10/24/2007, you wrote: Hey , I used to " eat with my eyes. " In other words, I would think I needed a heaping plate of food, but when I would begin to eat, less than half way through the meal, I would be stuffed - and feeling sick! So when I started IE, I decided to work against the guilt-ridden " eating everything on your plate b/c there are starving children in Africa " syndrome. Now, sometimes, I won't obey it, but I pay attention to when I don't and have conversations with myself that - it's ok to sometimes eat out of necessity (because you will be in a meeting) or emotions (eating a piece of cake at my one-year old nephew's birthday party). I eat half mostly based on how my stomach feels and not my mind. It's hard to separate the two. But the portions are normal and sometimes if I am not starving and want to eat an elephant, I will serve myself on small plates at home and eat only half of everything on the plate - wait to see if I'm still hungry and either eat the rest, share the rest with my husband or put the rest away. At restaurants I will order a bunch of appetizers, or split a meal with my husband (or in a lot of cases, ask for the lunch portion). I will still only eat 50% of most because a lot of the time I only want a " taste " of what's before me and I'm not actually hungry for food, if you get my meaning. Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. I no longer " crave " that full-to-capacity feeling that you get when you leave a buffet and then go to sleep cause that's the only way your body knows how to handle the food. A lot of times people stuff themselves purley for emotional reasons, unless they have some physical disorder where their brains cannot regulate hormones to let them know when they're full. I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, " Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by " - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically... Anyhow, good luck everyone! Intuitive eating is just that: tapping into your mental intuition and that is not easy to come by. Emma Kydd ....lost a lot this week and continuing to lose (weight and emotional baggage!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Have you ever heard the expression, " your eyes are bigger than your stomach " ? That's what your post reminded me of. My mom used to always tell me that. And then of course make me eat everything that I took and clean my plate. Gotta love those rules! :-) Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com At 01:39 AM 10/24/2007, you wrote: Hey , I used to " eat with my eyes. " In other words, I would think I needed a heaping plate of food, but when I would begin to eat, less than half way through the meal, I would be stuffed - and feeling sick! So when I started IE, I decided to work against the guilt-ridden " eating everything on your plate b/c there are starving children in Africa " syndrome. Now, sometimes, I won't obey it, but I pay attention to when I don't and have conversations with myself that - it's ok to sometimes eat out of necessity (because you will be in a meeting) or emotions (eating a piece of cake at my one-year old nephew's birthday party). I eat half mostly based on how my stomach feels and not my mind. It's hard to separate the two. But the portions are normal and sometimes if I am not starving and want to eat an elephant, I will serve myself on small plates at home and eat only half of everything on the plate - wait to see if I'm still hungry and either eat the rest, share the rest with my husband or put the rest away. At restaurants I will order a bunch of appetizers, or split a meal with my husband (or in a lot of cases, ask for the lunch portion). I will still only eat 50% of most because a lot of the time I only want a " taste " of what's before me and I'm not actually hungry for food, if you get my meaning. Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. I no longer " crave " that full-to-capacity feeling that you get when you leave a buffet and then go to sleep cause that's the only way your body knows how to handle the food. A lot of times people stuff themselves purley for emotional reasons, unless they have some physical disorder where their brains cannot regulate hormones to let them know when they're full. I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, " Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by " - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically... Anyhow, good luck everyone! Intuitive eating is just that: tapping into your mental intuition and that is not easy to come by. Emma Kydd ....lost a lot this week and continuing to lose (weight and emotional baggage!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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