Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 My boyfriend and I partners in compulsive eating....I try to stay on track and lose some lbs. than he brings home a great chocolate cake. So...guess what? We eat it and gain more ...niether one of us seems to have alot of control where eating is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 "I do that as well, but I think the difference must be that I'm not far enough along in the process, because I feel deprived, resentful and angry that I can't finish what I had. Saving it until the next time I'm hungry isn't the same - it doesnt' taste as good, have the same quality and eye appeal. Additionally, I literally can't throw food away, I feel like it's completely immoral with all the people I know and work with who can't even afford to feed themselves and their children. Taking smaller portions kicks in the deprivation thing again and so..... some people who do IE need to relearn to get in touch with their body's signals, others of us have major emotional work to to related to food, eating, feelings, etc. and it won't be so easy.Re: the poster who gave a "size 12 for perspective" comment. I have never ever in my life been smaller or larger than a size 18, and since I have started IE, I am up to a size 22. There is nothing anyone can say that will make me feel good about myself at that size. It's disgusting and repulsive, so for me, IE doesn't work. A few months ago, I was in the same place as many others on this board, happy to be free from anxiety and calm and relaxed around food, but now, I'm not even hungry, I don't eat more than I used to, I haven't binged in weeks, but I'm gaining weight like no tomorrow. I can't have anything I want, I guess I just need rules and strucure to discipline myself." CW This is just where you are with IE, that's all. I was there for months and months and months. When you wrote this, I had a vision of this past summer sitting outside at my back table and feeling the same thing. I was trying to stop eating when I noticed I was full, but whenever I did, I would feel unsatisfied. So, I didn't stop, but I was proud of myself for at least being aware of when I was getting full. Then, slowly, I started being able to take fewer and fewer bites after I was full. Then, I started serving myself smaller portions because I hate to throw away food too. Finally, it all came together, and now (for the most part, not always) I take smaller portions and stop when I'm full. I do need structure, but you can't impose the structure until you really, really, REALLY free yourself from the mental "hook" of food. As an example, I went to Disneyland yesterday. The place is full of junk food. I had a lot of time to stand around and watch people, and there were SO MANY people non-intuitively eating. Walking around stuffing food in their mouths mindlessly. I was noticing parents of toddlers feeding their kids while on rides! How is that teaching kids to be aware of what they are eating? I ate what I want, but sat down and ate it and enjoyed it, and stopped when I was full. I didn't walk around stuffing my face with every available food just because it was there. One last example. About a month ago my 7 year old daughter noticed that I finished my plate of dinner before everyone else in the family. She innocently commented, "Wow, mommy, you eat fast!" In the past I would have taken that comment badly. With IE I said to her, "No, honey, it's not that I eat fast, I just took the proper amount for how hungry I was." Intuitive eating is NOT intuitive, for most of us, because we live in a society that doesn't support it.Even God doesn't plan to judge a man till the end of his days, why should you and I?-Unknown __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 "I do that as well, but I think the difference must be that I'm not far enough along in the process, because I feel deprived, resentful and angry that I can't finish what I had. Saving it until the next time I'm hungry isn't the same - it doesnt' taste as good, have the same quality and eye appeal. Additionally, I literally can't throw food away, I feel like it's completely immoral with all the people I know and work with who can't even afford to feed themselves and their children. Taking smaller portions kicks in the deprivation thing again and so..... some people who do IE need to relearn to get in touch with their body's signals, others of us have major emotional work to to related to food, eating, feelings, etc. and it won't be so easy.Re: the poster who gave a "size 12 for perspective" comment. I have never ever in my life been smaller or larger than a size 18, and since I have started IE, I am up to a size 22. There is nothing anyone can say that will make me feel good about myself at that size. It's disgusting and repulsive, so for me, IE doesn't work. A few months ago, I was in the same place as many others on this board, happy to be free from anxiety and calm and relaxed around food, but now, I'm not even hungry, I don't eat more than I used to, I haven't binged in weeks, but I'm gaining weight like no tomorrow. I can't have anything I want, I guess I just need rules and strucure to discipline myself." CW This is just where you are with IE, that's all. I was there for months and months and months. When you wrote this, I had a vision of this past summer sitting outside at my back table and feeling the same thing. I was trying to stop eating when I noticed I was full, but whenever I did, I would feel unsatisfied. So, I didn't stop, but I was proud of myself for at least being aware of when I was getting full. Then, slowly, I started being able to take fewer and fewer bites after I was full. Then, I started serving myself smaller portions because I hate to throw away food too. Finally, it all came together, and now (for the most part, not always) I take smaller portions and stop when I'm full. I do need structure, but you can't impose the structure until you really, really, REALLY free yourself from the mental "hook" of food. As an example, I went to Disneyland yesterday. The place is full of junk food. I had a lot of time to stand around and watch people, and there were SO MANY people non-intuitively eating. Walking around stuffing food in their mouths mindlessly. I was noticing parents of toddlers feeding their kids while on rides! How is that teaching kids to be aware of what they are eating? I ate what I want, but sat down and ate it and enjoyed it, and stopped when I was full. I didn't walk around stuffing my face with every available food just because it was there. One last example. About a month ago my 7 year old daughter noticed that I finished my plate of dinner before everyone else in the family. She innocently commented, "Wow, mommy, you eat fast!" In the past I would have taken that comment badly. With IE I said to her, "No, honey, it's not that I eat fast, I just took the proper amount for how hungry I was." Intuitive eating is NOT intuitive, for most of us, because we live in a society that doesn't support it.Even God doesn't plan to judge a man till the end of his days, why should you and I?-Unknown __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 "I do that as well, but I think the difference must be that I'm not far enough along in the process, because I feel deprived, resentful and angry that I can't finish what I had. Saving it until the next time I'm hungry isn't the same - it doesnt' taste as good, have the same quality and eye appeal. Additionally, I literally can't throw food away, I feel like it's completely immoral with all the people I know and work with who can't even afford to feed themselves and their children. Taking smaller portions kicks in the deprivation thing again and so..... some people who do IE need to relearn to get in touch with their body's signals, others of us have major emotional work to to related to food, eating, feelings, etc. and it won't be so easy.Re: the poster who gave a "size 12 for perspective" comment. I have never ever in my life been smaller or larger than a size 18, and since I have started IE, I am up to a size 22. There is nothing anyone can say that will make me feel good about myself at that size. It's disgusting and repulsive, so for me, IE doesn't work. A few months ago, I was in the same place as many others on this board, happy to be free from anxiety and calm and relaxed around food, but now, I'm not even hungry, I don't eat more than I used to, I haven't binged in weeks, but I'm gaining weight like no tomorrow. I can't have anything I want, I guess I just need rules and strucure to discipline myself." CW This is just where you are with IE, that's all. I was there for months and months and months. When you wrote this, I had a vision of this past summer sitting outside at my back table and feeling the same thing. I was trying to stop eating when I noticed I was full, but whenever I did, I would feel unsatisfied. So, I didn't stop, but I was proud of myself for at least being aware of when I was getting full. Then, slowly, I started being able to take fewer and fewer bites after I was full. Then, I started serving myself smaller portions because I hate to throw away food too. Finally, it all came together, and now (for the most part, not always) I take smaller portions and stop when I'm full. I do need structure, but you can't impose the structure until you really, really, REALLY free yourself from the mental "hook" of food. As an example, I went to Disneyland yesterday. The place is full of junk food. I had a lot of time to stand around and watch people, and there were SO MANY people non-intuitively eating. Walking around stuffing food in their mouths mindlessly. I was noticing parents of toddlers feeding their kids while on rides! How is that teaching kids to be aware of what they are eating? I ate what I want, but sat down and ate it and enjoyed it, and stopped when I was full. I didn't walk around stuffing my face with every available food just because it was there. One last example. About a month ago my 7 year old daughter noticed that I finished my plate of dinner before everyone else in the family. She innocently commented, "Wow, mommy, you eat fast!" In the past I would have taken that comment badly. With IE I said to her, "No, honey, it's not that I eat fast, I just took the proper amount for how hungry I was." Intuitive eating is NOT intuitive, for most of us, because we live in a society that doesn't support it.Even God doesn't plan to judge a man till the end of his days, why should you and I?-Unknown __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 > > As an example, I went to Disneyland yesterday. The place is full of junk food. I had a lot of time to stand around and watch people, and there were SO MANY people non- intuitively eating. Walking around stuffing food in their mouths mindlessly. I was noticing parents of toddlers feeding their kids while on rides! How is that teaching kids to be aware of what they are eating? I ate what I want, but sat down and ate it and enjoyed it, and stopped when I was full. I didn't walk around stuffing my face with every available food just because it was there. That must be a good place to see just how much damage current 'wisdom' is doing to people. Every year we have more evidence it doesn't work, but instead of doing something different, we just do more of the same, and get more of the same, sorry result. I usually see this kind of thing at swimming lessons. One family in particular used to bring a whole beach bag full of food for the kids - as if they couldn't sit for thirty minutes without eating. All junk - not a healthy thing in there. They used to have giant rise krispie treats (she probably thought those were healthy since they were 'low fat'). > > One last example. About a month ago my 7 year old daughter noticed that I finished my plate of dinner before everyone else in the family. She innocently commented, " Wow, mommy, you eat fast! " In the past I would have taken that comment badly. With IE I said to her, " No, honey, it's not that I eat fast, I just took the proper amount for how hungry I was. " I have a 7 year old as well. He has learned mommy finishes first usually cuz mommy doesn't eat much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 > > As an example, I went to Disneyland yesterday. The place is full of junk food. I had a lot of time to stand around and watch people, and there were SO MANY people non- intuitively eating. Walking around stuffing food in their mouths mindlessly. I was noticing parents of toddlers feeding their kids while on rides! How is that teaching kids to be aware of what they are eating? I ate what I want, but sat down and ate it and enjoyed it, and stopped when I was full. I didn't walk around stuffing my face with every available food just because it was there. That must be a good place to see just how much damage current 'wisdom' is doing to people. Every year we have more evidence it doesn't work, but instead of doing something different, we just do more of the same, and get more of the same, sorry result. I usually see this kind of thing at swimming lessons. One family in particular used to bring a whole beach bag full of food for the kids - as if they couldn't sit for thirty minutes without eating. All junk - not a healthy thing in there. They used to have giant rise krispie treats (she probably thought those were healthy since they were 'low fat'). > > One last example. About a month ago my 7 year old daughter noticed that I finished my plate of dinner before everyone else in the family. She innocently commented, " Wow, mommy, you eat fast! " In the past I would have taken that comment badly. With IE I said to her, " No, honey, it's not that I eat fast, I just took the proper amount for how hungry I was. " I have a 7 year old as well. He has learned mommy finishes first usually cuz mommy doesn't eat much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 The key I have found is eat the cake. Eat when you are hungry and stop when you are full. It works for me whenever I practice it. I have overeaten many times. My birthday was yesterday and I ate more than I should have but I stopped when I was full. I didn't used to do that a year ago. I would eat and eat because it was there. It takes time and practice but it will come to you. Michele fremteo2 wrote: My boyfriend and I partners in compulsive eating....I try to stay on track and lose some lbs. than he brings home a great chocolate cake. So...guess what? We eat it and gain more ...niether one of us seems to have alot of control where eating is concerned. Currently Reading: Songs Without Words Recently Read: Shopaholic and Baby by Sophie Kinsella __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 The key I have found is eat the cake. Eat when you are hungry and stop when you are full. It works for me whenever I practice it. I have overeaten many times. My birthday was yesterday and I ate more than I should have but I stopped when I was full. I didn't used to do that a year ago. I would eat and eat because it was there. It takes time and practice but it will come to you. Michele fremteo2 wrote: My boyfriend and I partners in compulsive eating....I try to stay on track and lose some lbs. than he brings home a great chocolate cake. So...guess what? We eat it and gain more ...niether one of us seems to have alot of control where eating is concerned. Currently Reading: Songs Without Words Recently Read: Shopaholic and Baby by Sophie Kinsella __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 The key I have found is eat the cake. Eat when you are hungry and stop when you are full. It works for me whenever I practice it. I have overeaten many times. My birthday was yesterday and I ate more than I should have but I stopped when I was full. I didn't used to do that a year ago. I would eat and eat because it was there. It takes time and practice but it will come to you. Michele fremteo2 wrote: My boyfriend and I partners in compulsive eating....I try to stay on track and lose some lbs. than he brings home a great chocolate cake. So...guess what? We eat it and gain more ...niether one of us seems to have alot of control where eating is concerned. Currently Reading: Songs Without Words Recently Read: Shopaholic and Baby by Sophie Kinsella __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 My birthday was yesterday Happy Birthday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 My birthday was yesterday Happy Birthday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 My birthday was yesterday Happy Birthday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Yes, i second that, " Happy Birthday, Sweetie! " ......hope it was a wonderful one!....--debra ---In IntuitiveEating_Support , " iv_adb " wrote: My birthday was yesterday> Happy Birthday!- --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Thank you!!! Michele iv_adb wrote: My birthday was yesterdayHappy Birthday! Currently Reading: Songs Without Words Recently Read: Shopaholic and Baby by Sophie Kinsella __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Thank you!!! It was a great one. Michele fireflynites27 wrote: Yes, i second that, "Happy Birthday, Sweetie!"......hope it was a wonderful one!....--debra ---In IntuitiveEating_Support , "iv_adb" wrote: My birthday was yesterday> Happy Birthday!----> Currently Reading: Songs Without Words Recently Read: Shopaholic and Baby by Sophie Kinsella __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 CW - I wanted to clarify what I was saying. Because unfortunately, I don't think that what I was trying to say came across right based on your response to my post. I apologize if it upset you in anyway. I hope that you can at least see my intentions after I explain it a bit. First, the only reason I mentioned my size was because I didn't want anyone to be discouraged by my saying that I haven't lost a pound. Because quite frankly, my body might not be able to go smaller. It might just naturally need to be here. But that does not mean that other people on this board will not lose weight using IE and learning about themselves. Heck - even people my size now - could still end up losing weight working through IE. Second, from my experience with IE, I've been able to find happiness in my life. A little bit of freedom. This has been huge for me. Being able to go out to a restaurant and not be scared to death of the food, has been great. I wanted to share that with people because for me when others post successes like that it has reminded me of what I want, it has given me hope that freedom from food can happen and that maybe I just need a bit more patience. Lastly, I've learned a bit over the last year and one of them is to never assume you know from someone's outside appearance or disposition that you know what is going on with them. I have friends that have major self-esteem issues - but you would never guess when you first meet them. They look like they " should " be happy with themselves. They " should " be happy with their weight, appearance, relationship, job, lifestyle, etc. But they are not the people that are happy or happy with themselves. I was one of those people. I was depressed. I hated how I looked (even when I was a couple sizes smaller than I am now). I hated a lot about myself. But no one would have ever guessed it by my appearance or mannerisms. I guess what I'm trying to say with that is that size doesn't have to be the determining factor as to whether or not you can love yourself. And I made the choice for me that I didn't want it too. This does not mean that you have to approach it the same way. What I wanted to share with that post was what IE, a bit of counseling and a lot of hard work gave me. Yeah, I gained a bit of weight (partly with IE and partly before I decided to do IE). But it gave me a new sense of perspective. I, personally, believe that working on self-esteem is important to everyone in life - no matter what their size is (size 0 - 30). But if you aren't able to work on that piece of your life now. That's ok. Do what you need to do. We are all on different paths and all need different things. Do what you need to do to find the life you want. I hope that you were not upset by my email and I hope that this at least gives a little bit of a perspective on what I was trying to get across. I hope that whatever you decide to do that you find what you are looking for and are happy. I do wish you the best of luck through this process. > > Emma - > I do that as well, but I think the difference must be that I'm not far enough along in the process, because I feel deprived, resentful and angry that I can't finish what I had. Saving it until the next time I'm hungry isn't the same - it doesnt' taste as good, have the same quality and eye appeal. Additionally, I literally can't throw food away, I feel like it's completely immoral with all the people I know and work with who can't even afford to feed themselves and their children. Taking smaller portions kicks in the deprivation thing again and so..... some people who do IE need to relearn to get in touch with their body's signals, others of us have major emotional work to to related to food, eating, feelings, etc. and it won't be so easy. > > Re: the poster who gave a " size 12 for perspective " comment. I have never ever in my life been smaller or larger than a size 18, and since I have started IE, I am up to a size 22. There is nothing anyone can say that will make me feel good about myself at that size. It's disgusting and repulsive, so for me, IE doesn't work. A few months ago, I was in the same place as many others on this board, happy to be free from anxiety and calm and relaxed around food, but now, I'm not even hungry, I don't eat more than I used to, I haven't binged in weeks, but I'm gaining weight like no tomorrow. I can't have anything I want, I guess I just need rules and strucure to discipline myself. > > Best of luck to all of you though, > CW > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hi everyone - I wanted to thank all of you who posted to the group and all the individual emails I received telling me I had support for whichever decision I decided to make re:IE. I am humbled and grateful. I think my new job is overwhelming me and I'm trying to take control by beating myself up and blaming everything on food, weight, appearance, etc. I have given myself a (gentle;-) chat and reminded myself that nothing worthwhile just happens and I need to practice what I preach - small baby steps! My health issues aside, I am in a much better frame of mind than my last several posts and wanted to apologize and say thank you. This really is the most supportive, encouraging, caring place I've ever been. Thanks for all your help and encouragement, I'll return it if you ever need it - I promise! Peace & blessings, CW __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hi everyone - I wanted to thank all of you who posted to the group and all the individual emails I received telling me I had support for whichever decision I decided to make re:IE. I am humbled and grateful. I think my new job is overwhelming me and I'm trying to take control by beating myself up and blaming everything on food, weight, appearance, etc. I have given myself a (gentle;-) chat and reminded myself that nothing worthwhile just happens and I need to practice what I preach - small baby steps! My health issues aside, I am in a much better frame of mind than my last several posts and wanted to apologize and say thank you. This really is the most supportive, encouraging, caring place I've ever been. Thanks for all your help and encouragement, I'll return it if you ever need it - I promise! Peace & blessings, CW __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hi everyone - I wanted to thank all of you who posted to the group and all the individual emails I received telling me I had support for whichever decision I decided to make re:IE. I am humbled and grateful. I think my new job is overwhelming me and I'm trying to take control by beating myself up and blaming everything on food, weight, appearance, etc. I have given myself a (gentle;-) chat and reminded myself that nothing worthwhile just happens and I need to practice what I preach - small baby steps! My health issues aside, I am in a much better frame of mind than my last several posts and wanted to apologize and say thank you. This really is the most supportive, encouraging, caring place I've ever been. Thanks for all your help and encouragement, I'll return it if you ever need it - I promise! Peace & blessings, CW __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Just like our weight can go up and down, so too can our moods and attitudes. Some days its a little annoyance, other days its a crack-the-whip roller coaster ride! I am glad that you could trace back and discover what (else) was nipping at you and find a place of some peace today too. None of us wish any more heartaches upon each other than those we already have to battle to begin with! So neat that this group could help you hang in with what you really want. Take care gal, and never sweat a good whine, its like crying which is rain for the soul - ehugs, Katcha > > Hi everyone - > I wanted to thank all of you who posted to the group and all the individual emails I received telling me I had support for whichever decision I decided to make re:IE. I am humbled and grateful. I think my new job is overwhelming me and I'm trying to take control by beating myself up and blaming everything on food, weight, appearance, etc. > > I have given myself a (gentle;-) chat and reminded myself that nothing worthwhile just happens and I need to practice what I preach - small baby steps! My health issues aside, I am in a much better frame of mind than my last several posts and wanted to apologize and say thank you. This really is the most supportive, encouraging, caring place I've ever been. > Thanks for all your help and encouragement, I'll return it if you ever need it - I promise! > Peace & blessings, > CW > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I am in the same boat, although I try so hard and he doesn't. I am finding him a big trigger in my life and I am deciding if I should marry this man???? Re: what do you do? > My boyfriend and I partners in compulsive eating....I try to stay on > track and lose some lbs. than he brings home a great chocolate cake. > So...guess what? We eat it and gain more ...niether one of us seems to > have alot of control where eating is concerned. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Hey , I used to "eat with my eyes." In other words, I would think I needed a heaping plate of food, but when I would begin to eat, less than half way through the meal, I would be stuffed - and feeling sick! So when I started IE, I decided to work against the guilt-ridden "eating everything on your plate b/c there are starving children in Africa" syndrome. Now, sometimes, I won't obey it, but I pay attention to when I don't and have conversations with myself that - it's ok to sometimes eat out of necessity (because you will be in a meeting) or emotions (eating a piece of cake at my one-year old nephew's birthday party). I eat half mostly based on how my stomach feels and not my mind. It's hard to separate the two. But the portions are normal and sometimes if I am not starving and want to eat an elephant, I will serve myself on small plates at home and eat only half of everything on the plate - wait to see if I'm still hungry and either eat the rest, share the rest with my husband or put the rest away. At restaurants I will order a bunch of appetizers, or split a meal with my husband (or in a lot of cases, ask for the lunch portion). I will still only eat 50% of most because a lot of the time I only want a "taste" of what's before me and I'm not actually hungry for food, if you get my meaning. Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. I no longer "crave" that full-to-capacity feeling that you get when you leave a buffet and then go to sleep cause that's the only way your body knows how to handle the food. A lot of times people stuff themselves purley for emotional reasons, unless they have some physical disorder where their brains cannot regulate hormones to let them know when they're full. I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, "Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by" - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically... Anyhow, good luck everyone! Intuitive eating is just that: tapping into your mental intuition and that is not easy to come by. Emma Kydd ...lost a lot this week and continuing to lose (weight and emotional baggage!) Palmer wrote:That is a fantastic idea, Emma!Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (likepeer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish thatother half of the meal because if you don't finish itthen you know you'll be taking in less calories?How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normal Palmer wrote: That is a fantastic idea, Emma!Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (likepeer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish thatother half of the meal because if you don't finish itthen you know you'll be taking in less calories?How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normalamount of food and only eat half before taking anassessment? Or do you only put half of what younormally would on your plate?I think this could potentially work for me because Itend to eat most everything on my plate. If I'mreally trying I'll leave a few bites but certainly not50%. Right now I have an idea to check in but itdoesn't always work out, especially if I'm fairlyhungry when I get to the meal.--- Emma Fergusson <emkydd> wrote:> I "half" most of meals before checking in to see if> I'm still hungry. That "eat 50% of what's before you> and WAIT to see if you're still hungry" approach has> helped me shed pounds since being on IE. It's not> about portion control, calorie counting or dieting.> It's about paying attention to what I truly feel> (physically). Most of the times, I am not interested> in the rest of my meal. I find I am thirsty a lot> and used to confuse thirst with hunger.> > > Emma__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Hey , I used to "eat with my eyes." In other words, I would think I needed a heaping plate of food, but when I would begin to eat, less than half way through the meal, I would be stuffed - and feeling sick! So when I started IE, I decided to work against the guilt-ridden "eating everything on your plate b/c there are starving children in Africa" syndrome. Now, sometimes, I won't obey it, but I pay attention to when I don't and have conversations with myself that - it's ok to sometimes eat out of necessity (because you will be in a meeting) or emotions (eating a piece of cake at my one-year old nephew's birthday party). I eat half mostly based on how my stomach feels and not my mind. It's hard to separate the two. But the portions are normal and sometimes if I am not starving and want to eat an elephant, I will serve myself on small plates at home and eat only half of everything on the plate - wait to see if I'm still hungry and either eat the rest, share the rest with my husband or put the rest away. At restaurants I will order a bunch of appetizers, or split a meal with my husband (or in a lot of cases, ask for the lunch portion). I will still only eat 50% of most because a lot of the time I only want a "taste" of what's before me and I'm not actually hungry for food, if you get my meaning. Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. I no longer "crave" that full-to-capacity feeling that you get when you leave a buffet and then go to sleep cause that's the only way your body knows how to handle the food. A lot of times people stuff themselves purley for emotional reasons, unless they have some physical disorder where their brains cannot regulate hormones to let them know when they're full. I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, "Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by" - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically... Anyhow, good luck everyone! Intuitive eating is just that: tapping into your mental intuition and that is not easy to come by. Emma Kydd ...lost a lot this week and continuing to lose (weight and emotional baggage!) Palmer wrote:That is a fantastic idea, Emma!Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (likepeer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish thatother half of the meal because if you don't finish itthen you know you'll be taking in less calories?How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normal Palmer wrote: That is a fantastic idea, Emma!Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (likepeer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish thatother half of the meal because if you don't finish itthen you know you'll be taking in less calories?How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normalamount of food and only eat half before taking anassessment? Or do you only put half of what younormally would on your plate?I think this could potentially work for me because Itend to eat most everything on my plate. If I'mreally trying I'll leave a few bites but certainly not50%. Right now I have an idea to check in but itdoesn't always work out, especially if I'm fairlyhungry when I get to the meal.--- Emma Fergusson <emkydd> wrote:> I "half" most of meals before checking in to see if> I'm still hungry. That "eat 50% of what's before you> and WAIT to see if you're still hungry" approach has> helped me shed pounds since being on IE. It's not> about portion control, calorie counting or dieting.> It's about paying attention to what I truly feel> (physically). Most of the times, I am not interested> in the rest of my meal. I find I am thirsty a lot> and used to confuse thirst with hunger.> > > Emma__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Emma, These are two excellent points. I work out a lot (1 1/2 to 2 hours a day, every day), but I eat less than most people I know. Except maybe on weekends, ha ha. What you said about comfort and getting used to IE is really resonating with me. I needed to hear that this morning. Thanks. :)Jane. Emma Fergusson wrote: Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, "Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by" - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically... . __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 This I don't agree with AT ALL. If you are training HARD your body needs the nutrients. Exercising intensly for long periods of time with little food causes the body to be depleated. I think this post forgets something called exercise induced amenorrhea and the female athlete triad. It's all about energy balance. Activity level and intake need to be balanced out. You wanna get skinny? Easy. Stop eating and exercise enough to burn off what you ate. Hmmm.. I guess the half cup of bran cereal I used to eat was PLENTY with the 1 of intense cardio and circuit workouts I was doing 6 days a week. Silly me? > Human beings were created to subsist on little food. And the argument that - you eat more when you exercise is a bunch of bull to me. I find you eat less. I think I love the concept of the no-diet approach simply because it's all about finding your comfort level - both mentally and emotionally. Mine is in half portions or a mouthful of something and then I find I'm good. > > I no longer " crave " that full-to-capacity feeling that you get when you leave a buffet and then go to sleep cause that's the only way your body knows how to handle the food. A lot of times people stuff themselves purley for emotional reasons, unless they have some physical disorder where their brains cannot regulate hormones to let them know when they're full. > > I have to point out though, this approach to eating is very uncomfortable at the beginning. Your body is used to being soothed through food and when you say, " Hold on a minute. No more food until 20 minutes have gone by " - your head may hurt a bit and your emotions in a rut because a lot of people eat for emotional reasons. With me, it was all about comfort. Put yourself in any uncomfortable situation (new job, new house, new baby - albeit great changes) and your entire psyche has to adjust. It's the same thing when you approach food differently - that from a purely physical aspect with little emotional ties (except with birthdays, funerals, etc), you have to adjust and adjustment periods has its challenges. I also journal what I eat to track my emotions and what's happening physically... > > Anyhow, good luck everyone! Intuitive eating is just that: tapping into your mental intuition and that is not easy to come by. > > > Emma Kydd > > ...lost a lot this week and continuing to lose (weight and emotional baggage!) > > Palmer wrote: > That is a fantastic idea, Emma! > > Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (like > peer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish that > other half of the meal because if you don't finish it > then you know you'll be taking in less calories? > > How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normal > > > > Palmer wrote: That is a fantastic idea, Emma! > > Do you ever feel like you have internal pressure (like > peer pressure, only from yourself) to not finish that > other half of the meal because if you don't finish it > then you know you'll be taking in less calories? > > How do you do it? Do you serve yourself a normal > amount of food and only eat half before taking an > assessment? Or do you only put half of what you > normally would on your plate? > > I think this could potentially work for me because I > tend to eat most everything on my plate. If I'm > really trying I'll leave a few bites but certainly not > 50%. Right now I have an idea to check in but it > doesn't always work out, especially if I'm fairly > hungry when I get to the meal. > > > > --- Emma Fergusson wrote: > > > I " half " most of meals before checking in to see if > > I'm still hungry. That " eat 50% of what's before you > > and WAIT to see if you're still hungry " approach has > > helped me shed pounds since being on IE. It's not > > about portion control, calorie counting or dieting. > > It's about paying attention to what I truly feel > > (physically). Most of the times, I am not interested > > in the rest of my meal. I find I am thirsty a lot > > and used to confuse thirst with hunger. > > > > > > Emma > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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