Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 YMMV,<<<<<< >>>>>>> What is YMMV? Art Mc moseart@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2002 Report Share Posted April 20, 2002 YMMV,<<<<<< >>>>>>> What is YMMV? Art Mc moseart@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Well, Art, I'm not Susie...but I think you could just ask her, " why do I need the sulf when I'm low carbing and exercising heavily? " smile...Vicki In a message dated 04/22/2002 11:38:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time, moseart@... writes: > I'm > still wondering why you need the sulfonylurea when you are low-carbing and > exercising heavily. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > Dunno. . . .but plan to ask the endo about it when I see her in a couple of > weeks. What do you suggest I tell her Susie? > art > > > Art Mc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Art Mc wrote: << do you mean a single dose of 1500? I take 2000 per day, 1000 morning, 1000 evening. Also 5 " units " of diabeta. Until recently I took that at 5 pm, but now I am breaking them in half and taking 2.5 at Noon and the other half at 5. I was getting serious lows (40-50) every night about midnite. This seems to have helped a bit. . .now at midnight I'm usually in the mid 60's. >> With the regular Metformin, type 2's would generally take 500 mg three times a day, to even out the coverage. (Max. recommended is 2,250 daily for the regular.) I can't find any dosage info at RxList.com on the XR, Art. I'm still wondering why you need the sulfonylurea when you are low-carbing and exercising heavily. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Art Mc wrote: << do you mean a single dose of 1500? I take 2000 per day, 1000 morning, 1000 evening. Also 5 " units " of diabeta. Until recently I took that at 5 pm, but now I am breaking them in half and taking 2.5 at Noon and the other half at 5. I was getting serious lows (40-50) every night about midnite. This seems to have helped a bit. . .now at midnight I'm usually in the mid 60's. >> With the regular Metformin, type 2's would generally take 500 mg three times a day, to even out the coverage. (Max. recommended is 2,250 daily for the regular.) I can't find any dosage info at RxList.com on the XR, Art. I'm still wondering why you need the sulfonylurea when you are low-carbing and exercising heavily. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 asked about Glucophage dosing. You'll find that at http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/metformi_ids.htm Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 asked about Glucophage dosing. You'll find that at http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/metformi_ids.htm Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 I'm still wondering why you need the sulfonylurea when you are low-carbing and exercising heavily. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dunno. . . .but plan to ask the endo about it when I see her in a couple of weeks. What do you suggest I tell her Susie? art Art Mc moseart@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 > -----Original Message----- > From: Susie Muir > regular.) I can't find any dosage info at RxList.com on the Using Glucophage as an example, dosing info on rxlist.com can be found as follows: Enter either " Glucophage " or " Metformin " (the generic name) in the search box and click on " go " . Find the line " Brand Name: Glucophage, Generic Name: Metformin HCL " and click on the underlined generic name to get to info on the drug. Then click on " Indications and Dosage " on the menu bar to get do dosage info. For metformin, both the maximum dose and the minimum generally found to be therapeutic can be found here. Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 > -----Original Message----- > From: Susie Muir > regular.) I can't find any dosage info at RxList.com on the Using Glucophage as an example, dosing info on rxlist.com can be found as follows: Enter either " Glucophage " or " Metformin " (the generic name) in the search box and click on " go " . Find the line " Brand Name: Glucophage, Generic Name: Metformin HCL " and click on the underlined generic name to get to info on the drug. Then click on " Indications and Dosage " on the menu bar to get do dosage info. For metformin, both the maximum dose and the minimum generally found to be therapeutic can be found here. Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 > -----Original Message----- > From: Susie Muir > regular.) I can't find any dosage info at RxList.com on the Using Glucophage as an example, dosing info on rxlist.com can be found as follows: Enter either " Glucophage " or " Metformin " (the generic name) in the search box and click on " go " . Find the line " Brand Name: Glucophage, Generic Name: Metformin HCL " and click on the underlined generic name to get to info on the drug. Then click on " Indications and Dosage " on the menu bar to get do dosage info. For metformin, both the maximum dose and the minimum generally found to be therapeutic can be found here. Tom the Actuary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Robin G. wrote: << It must still be YMMV, Susie. I'm on 500 mg qd and it's helping me alot. >> I've never seen the studies they based their recommendations on. If we assume that their subjects were doing the Food Pyramid, that would certainly explain why they required a minimum of 1500 mg daily in order to be clinically effective. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 I wrote: << (Max. recommended is 2,250 daily for the regular.) >> I committed another braino ... should have read 2,550 mg. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Art Mc wrote: << What do you suggest I tell her Susie? >> Tell her about your major exercise program, and show her your journal of glucose readings. Tell her you have been researching sulfonylureas and learned that they can cause sometimes fatal hypos, and that you have been having frequent hypos. Tell her you are also concerned about the tendency of sulfonylureas to cause weight gain, and that weight gain is associated with increased insulin resistance, which worsens your diabetes and causes elevated insulin levels, which are a danger in themselves. Tell her you read the warning box at http://www.RxList.com of at least one study showing increased cardiovascular damage from taking sulfonylureas - then see what she says. In short, politely ask her to justify your continued use of this drug, in light of your good control. Most doctors are tickled to pieces to find a patient like you. It's just that they don't expect their patients to be so " good, " and so they put them on a drug that will improve their " control " (meaning: readings) in the short term, while sacrificing their pancreas beta cells in the long run and pushing the patient onto injected insulin. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2002 Report Share Posted April 22, 2002 Art Mc wrote: << What do you suggest I tell her Susie? >> Tell her about your major exercise program, and show her your journal of glucose readings. Tell her you have been researching sulfonylureas and learned that they can cause sometimes fatal hypos, and that you have been having frequent hypos. Tell her you are also concerned about the tendency of sulfonylureas to cause weight gain, and that weight gain is associated with increased insulin resistance, which worsens your diabetes and causes elevated insulin levels, which are a danger in themselves. Tell her you read the warning box at http://www.RxList.com of at least one study showing increased cardiovascular damage from taking sulfonylureas - then see what she says. In short, politely ask her to justify your continued use of this drug, in light of your good control. Most doctors are tickled to pieces to find a patient like you. It's just that they don't expect their patients to be so " good, " and so they put them on a drug that will improve their " control " (meaning: readings) in the short term, while sacrificing their pancreas beta cells in the long run and pushing the patient onto injected insulin. Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Hi, Jeanna! > So since increasing the meds I am now suffering from the " well-Known " > effects you mentioned > Does taking something like Imodium AD (sp?) do anything to help? My mother-in-law says it does for her. Worth a try, IMO. :-) ette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2002 Report Share Posted June 1, 2002 Hi, Jeanna...the difference between Glucophage and Glucophage XR is that the " XR " stands for " extended release " . I can't answer the other part of your question re dosing times but maybe someone else here can. As I recall, I took mine before meals. I don't take Glucophage - I did for a little while before my diagnosis was clarified as type 1 instead of type 2 . However, when I was taking it I was taking the highest recommended dose - 2500 mg a day I think it was -- and I was one of the lucky few who had NO side effects that sent me running to the bathroom - unfortunately the drug didn't work for me. I now take insulin. Vicki In a message dated 05/31/2002 11:57:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time, Jeanna@... writes: > Anyway, the PA I saw told me that normally people do their best on > Glucophage taking > 1000 mg in the AM and 1000 mg in the PM. Isn't there a difference between > Glucophage > and Glucophage XR? > > So since increasing the meds I am now suffering from the " well-Known " > effects you mentioned > Does taking something like Imodium AD (sp?) do anything to help? I had > this > when I initially > started on the Glucophage and about 6 weeks into it they mostly went away, > hoping it will do that > this time too. Anyone got any suggestions on anything to help until then? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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