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A lot of my binging was simply to suppress my thinking about my

emotions, regardless of what they were. I found that eating eas

simply my preferred response to *every* emotion, no matter how

innocuous.

Then I started practicing identifying my emotions. The nice thing

about this is, you don't have to get it right, because emotions go

away pretty quickly. Now I can identify most emotions, and sometimes

I still eat to numb them, but I'm at least choosing consciously to do

it.

Now that I've had lots of experience in handling my emotions in other

ways, I rarely eat over them.

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> >

> > Hey J--I've been binge eating since I was a small child. I'm

> 41 now and have only realized in the past few years what binge

eating

> is...I have a really hard time identifying the emotions I'm feeling

> when I binge. Mostly, it's boredom I suppose that starts it, but

it's

> also almost exclusively when I'm alone (and almost always sugar or

> chocolate). I feel like I want to be bad. Does that make sense?

> What sort of emotion is that?

> >

> > I ordered the book " The Food and Feelings Workbook " recently

that

> I read about on these boards. Anyone else out there having trouble

> identifying with your emotions when a binge begins?--Lise

>

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A lot of my binging was simply to suppress my thinking about my

emotions, regardless of what they were. I found that eating eas

simply my preferred response to *every* emotion, no matter how

innocuous.

Then I started practicing identifying my emotions. The nice thing

about this is, you don't have to get it right, because emotions go

away pretty quickly. Now I can identify most emotions, and sometimes

I still eat to numb them, but I'm at least choosing consciously to do

it.

Now that I've had lots of experience in handling my emotions in other

ways, I rarely eat over them.

lrc

> >

> > Hey J--I've been binge eating since I was a small child. I'm

> 41 now and have only realized in the past few years what binge

eating

> is...I have a really hard time identifying the emotions I'm feeling

> when I binge. Mostly, it's boredom I suppose that starts it, but

it's

> also almost exclusively when I'm alone (and almost always sugar or

> chocolate). I feel like I want to be bad. Does that make sense?

> What sort of emotion is that?

> >

> > I ordered the book " The Food and Feelings Workbook " recently

that

> I read about on these boards. Anyone else out there having trouble

> identifying with your emotions when a binge begins?--Lise

>

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Katcha--I can see that, but my issue is I can't figure out what emotion I'm numbing. It's hard to admit that I'm that out of touch w/ myself or my feelings. I mean I can identify the fact that I'm not hungry and I'm eating, that I'm alone and I'm eating, and that I'm not doing anything but watching t.v. and I'm eating. I don't "feel" much more than that--other than guilt (for bingeing), of course. Does that make sense?Katcha wrote: Reading this got me to thinking about how so

many of us 'credit'boredom as a main reason we eat. I know that was my first impressionwhen I started IE. But what sparked for me now is to wonder if whatI'm naming 'boredom' is really numbing (of emotions) instead? Both aresort of 'spaced out' type states....>> Hey J--I've been binge eating since I was a small child. I'm41 now and have only realized in the past few years what binge eatingis...I have a really hard time identifying the emotions I'm feelingwhen I binge. Mostly, it's boredom I suppose that starts it, but it'salso almost exclusively when I'm alone (and almost always sugar orchocolate). I feel like I want to be bad. Does that make sense? What sort of emotion is that? > > I ordered the book "The Food and Feelings

Workbook" recently thatI read about on these boards. Anyone else out there having troubleidentifying with your emotions when a binge begins?--Lise

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Katcha--I can see that, but my issue is I can't figure out what emotion I'm numbing. It's hard to admit that I'm that out of touch w/ myself or my feelings. I mean I can identify the fact that I'm not hungry and I'm eating, that I'm alone and I'm eating, and that I'm not doing anything but watching t.v. and I'm eating. I don't "feel" much more than that--other than guilt (for bingeing), of course. Does that make sense?Katcha wrote: Reading this got me to thinking about how so

many of us 'credit'boredom as a main reason we eat. I know that was my first impressionwhen I started IE. But what sparked for me now is to wonder if whatI'm naming 'boredom' is really numbing (of emotions) instead? Both aresort of 'spaced out' type states....>> Hey J--I've been binge eating since I was a small child. I'm41 now and have only realized in the past few years what binge eatingis...I have a really hard time identifying the emotions I'm feelingwhen I binge. Mostly, it's boredom I suppose that starts it, but it'salso almost exclusively when I'm alone (and almost always sugar orchocolate). I feel like I want to be bad. Does that make sense? What sort of emotion is that? > > I ordered the book "The Food and Feelings

Workbook" recently thatI read about on these boards. Anyone else out there having troubleidentifying with your emotions when a binge begins?--Lise

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Katcha--I definitely know when I go into a binge (numbing mode)...now if I can just figure out what I'm thinking about when I start. Thanks for the reply. -LiseKatcha wrote: You bet it makes sense Lise :) So I guess simply being aware of goinginto 'numbing' mode is the first step we need to take. From what Iunderstand (haven't practiced it much yet myself though) is to try andthink back to what you were doing/thinking right before one starts theun-hungry

eating. That is supposed to be the next step towards theunderlying emotion trigger. Reading this got me tothinking about how so many of us 'credit'> boredom as a main reason we eat. I know that was my first impression> when I started IE. But what sparked for me now is to

wonder if what> I'm naming 'boredom' is really numbing (of emotions) instead? Both are> sort of 'spaced out' type states....

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Lise,

I was thinking about what you wrote. It sounds like you are aware that

you are beginning to binge, right? So that's really good, awareness is

very important. I know it isn't always easy to figure out what you are

thinking or what's going on when you want to binge, and sometimes you

just don't want to go there because of the emotions. A step in between

that may not be a difficult is to make a conscious decision to binge,

instead of it just happening. When we make a decision to binge, overeat,

or whatever, it takes a lot of the power away from the food and gives it

back to ourselves. This doesn't mean you have to stop the binge, it just

means you are deciding to do it. And by deciding, you are also taking

responsibility for the consequences of that binge. You make a decision,

you know what could/might happen, and then you do it! By doing this,

there is no reason to feel the guilt or anger at yourself as if you have

no control over yourself. Binge, and move on with your day. You may find

it easier at some point to identify your reasons for wanting to binge or

what you are feeling and deal with it before bingeing.

Hope this is helpful.

Thanks!

Gillian

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At 10:00 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote:

Katcha--I definitely know when I

go into a binge (numbing mode)...now if I can just figure out what I'm

thinking about when I start. Thanks for the reply.

-Lise

Katcha wrote:

You bet it makes sense Lise :) So I guess simply being aware of

going

into 'numbing' mode is the first step we need to take. From what

I

understand (haven't practiced it much yet myself though) is to try

and

think back to what you were doing/thinking right before one starts

the

un-hungry eating. That is supposed to be the next step towards

the

underlying emotion trigger.

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That's so true, judging yourself as a bad person does nothing, except

just confirm to your subconscious that it's right when it lets the little

voices beat you up. I like what you said about how your eating behavior

doesn't define you as a person.

I was taking a training a while back and a very important thing came up

that I never even thought about. We often refer to ourselves or others as

" intuitive eater " , " binge eater " , " chronic

dieter " , etc. By doing this, we are giving ourselves or others an

identity with a behavior. So it is helpful to restate this as " I eat

intuitively " or " she is always dieting " , you get the idea.

Label the behavior, not the person. Besides, I think many of us fluctuate

from one behavior to the other, so we can't really claim to

" be " only one.

Just a thought!

Thanks!

Gillian

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It's not just about losing weight!

Want to eat your favorite foods without

gaining weight?

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At 06:43 AM 6/26/2007, you wrote:

Gillian, I totally agree with

giving yourself permission to binge.

Once I let up on myself and gave myself permission to be human, that's

when I was able to begin my recovery. Once you accept that you have a

problem with eating, then you can begin to accept the behaviors that go

along with that. What point does it serve to judge yourself as a bad

person. My eating behavior is only a small part of who I am, it does

not define me.

J

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Thank you Gillian for this excellent clarification - we are not 'how'

we eat :)

from Gillian:

We often refer to ourselves or others as " intuitive eater " , " binge

eater " , " chronic dieter " , etc. By doing this, we are giving ourselves

or others an identity with a behavior. So it is helpful to restate

this as " I eat intuitively " or " she is always dieting " , you get the

idea. Label the behavior, not the person.

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