Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 In living color I just wanted you to know that I regularly read your blog and I love it, it won't let me post though so I thought I would let you know this way how much I appreciate your blogs. Thank you. Since re-starting IE over a month ago I find being conscious of what I am doing slows me down, it may not stop my binge but it slows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 In living color I just wanted you to know that I regularly read your blog and I love it, it won't let me post though so I thought I would let you know this way how much I appreciate your blogs. Thank you. Since re-starting IE over a month ago I find being conscious of what I am doing slows me down, it may not stop my binge but it slows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 In living color I just wanted you to know that I regularly read your blog and I love it, it won't let me post though so I thought I would let you know this way how much I appreciate your blogs. Thank you. Since re-starting IE over a month ago I find being conscious of what I am doing slows me down, it may not stop my binge but it slows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to eat, eat eat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to eat, eat eat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to eat, eat eat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Leah, Thank you for the kind words and for telling me about the posting issue. Yahoo 360 is very easy for beginners to learn blogging, but it just doesn't have many features, and has several bugs like the one you found. I didn't know people couldn't post. This problem has really helped me decide to move to another blog software. Does anyone have a blog provider they're happy with? Any to stay away from? I'm leaning towards Blogger, now owned by Google. Has anyone moved a blog? I can imagine it's nearly impossible to move old posts. Being conscious is a great way to slow down. Slow also gives me the ability to ask myself, " Have I had enough? " and that is often enough power to stop the binge. lrc > > In living color I just wanted you to know that I regularly read your > blog and I love it, it won't let me post though so I thought I would > let you know this way how much I appreciate your blogs. > Thank you. > Since re-starting IE over a month ago I find being conscious of what I > am doing slows me down, it may not stop my binge but it slows it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Legalizing is great. It changed my life, because I was so involved in what I could and could not eat that I never got around to what the real issues were. So far, the best way I've found to stop during eating is to ask myself several times during a meal if I'm ready to stop. I found I don't always need to know the deepest reasons. lrc > > I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the > food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for > me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue > enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to > eat, eat eat! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Legalizing is great. It changed my life, because I was so involved in what I could and could not eat that I never got around to what the real issues were. So far, the best way I've found to stop during eating is to ask myself several times during a meal if I'm ready to stop. I found I don't always need to know the deepest reasons. lrc > > I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the > food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for > me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue > enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to > eat, eat eat! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Good for you that you have developed some awareness! You might want to keep a small notebook around and write down what is going on at the moment that you get the urge to binge. Try to identify the feeling that is driving the binge. If you have access to the computer, post on the board. For me, it was often feelings related to anger, that is disappointment, fear, hurt and frustration. Unfortunately, those feelings were in great quantity at one point in my life. I was fortunate in that I had an " aha " moment and decided to confront the issues. Up to that point, I had no idea where the behavior was coming from. Try not to keep binge foods readily available. I know we keep talking about legalizing all foods, but its hard to binge when the binge food isn't there. Binging is not about the food anyway. You have to consider the emotional trauma that we cause when we abuse ourselves with food. Try to remove yourself from the situation or place if you can when you feel the need to binge. Get busy and distract yourself by doing something else. Most of all, don't give up! The goal isn't necessarily to stop binging, but to reduce the amount of times it occurs. Have any of you been successful with reducing binging episodes? J. > > I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the > food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for > me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue > enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to > eat, eat eat! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hey J--I've been binge eating since I was a small child. I'm 41 now and have only realized in the past few years what binge eating is...I have a really hard time identifying the emotions I'm feeling when I binge. Mostly, it's boredom I suppose that starts it, but it's also almost exclusively when I'm alone (and almost always sugar or chocolate). I feel like I want to be bad. Does that make sense? What sort of emotion is that? I ordered the book "The Food and Feelings Workbook" recently that I read about on these boards. Anyone else out there having trouble identifying with your emotions when a binge begins?--Lisekrnjafe wrote: Good for you that you have developed some awareness! You might want to keep a small notebook around and write down what is going on at the moment that you get the urge to binge. Try to identify the feeling that is driving the binge. If you have access to the computer, post on the board. For me, it was often feelings related to anger, that is disappointment, fear, hurt and frustration. Unfortunately, those feelings were in great quantity at one point in my life. I was fortunate in that I had an "aha" moment and decided to confront the issues. Up to that point, I had no idea where the behavior was coming from. Try not to keep binge foods readily available. I know we keep talking about legalizing all foods, but its hard to binge when the binge food isn't there. Binging is not about the food anyway. You have to consider the emotional trauma that we cause when we abuse ourselves with food. Try to remove yourself from the situation or place if you can when you feel the need to binge. Get busy and distract yourself by doing something else. Most of all, don't give up! The goal isn't necessarily to stop binging, but to reduce the amount of times it occurs. Have any of you been successful with reducing binging episodes? J.>> I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the> food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for> me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue> enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to> eat, eat eat!> Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I hear you on the wanting to be bad, it is like a safe (aside from the damage I am doing to my body, mind and soul...) way for me to rebel without getting into trouble from the outside world. Why I want to rebel I do not know. I think this desire to rebel is a really important reason for me to make sure I keep the IE way of life as far from a diet as possible; then there is nothing for me to rebel against. Where as when I put rules about eating unto myself (no matter how innocent and small or IEish they seem) it gives me something to rebel against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Maybe we should just buy a couple of motorcycles and leather jackets eh Leah? I'm not making light of this strange compulsion...and it's nice to know there is someone else who knows what I'm talking about. Thanks for the post.--LiseLeah wrote: I hear you on the wanting to be bad, it is like a safe (aside from the damage I am doing to my body, mind and soul...) way for me to rebel without getting into trouble from the outside world. Why I want to rebel I do not know. I think this desire to rebel is a really important reason for me to make sure I keep the IE way of life as far from a diet as possible; then there is nothing for me to rebel against. Where as when I put rules about eating unto myself (no matter how innocent and small or IEish they seem) it gives me something to rebel against. Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 , I have spent many years learning and continuing on my Intuitive Eating journey. My experience is that you are right, the binging doesn't necessary stop, but the episodes are shorter and the time between is much longer. My binges used to last days, then a whole day, then hours. For a long time if I did binge, I was at the point that I would do it, not feel guilty, and move on. No dieting the next day, no skipping meals, no exercising to make up for it. That was great. More recently I've had a new experience. Occasionally I still have that urge to overeat because of stress or other emotions. Most of the time I can get past it without eating, but when I decide I am going to emotionally eat, I start eating and I can't eat much at all. I had grand plans of eating all kinds of stuff, and I just can't go there. It doesn't feel good and my body lets me know it doesn't want it. It's pretty amazing. Just keep going, you will have lots of cool surprises along the way! Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com At 10:42 AM 6/19/2007, you wrote: Good for you that you have developed some awareness! You might want to keep a small notebook around and write down what is going on at the moment that you get the urge to binge. Try to identify the feeling that is driving the binge. If you have access to the computer, post on the board. For me, it was often feelings related to anger, that is disappointment, fear, hurt and frustration. Unfortunately, those feelings were in great quantity at one point in my life. I was fortunate in that I had an " aha " moment and decided to confront the issues. Up to that point, I had no idea where the behavior was coming from. Try not to keep binge foods readily available. I know we keep talking about legalizing all foods, but its hard to binge when the binge food isn't there. Binging is not about the food anyway. You have to consider the emotional trauma that we cause when we abuse ourselves with food. Try to remove yourself from the situation or place if you can when you feel the need to binge. Get busy and distract yourself by doing something else. Most of all, don't give up! The goal isn't necessarily to stop binging, but to reduce the amount of times it occurs. Have any of you been successful with reducing binging episodes? J. > > I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the > food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for > me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue > enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to > eat, eat eat! > Thanks! Gillian Gillian Hood-son, MS, ACSM Healthier Outcomes It's not just about losing weight! Want to eat your favorite foods without gaining weight? Get your copy of our fr*e special report, " 6 Simple Steps to Guilt Free Eating " by visiting http://www.healthieroutcomes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 , Thank you for your kind words and thoughtful suggestions. I am going to start a new post topic on notebooking so will put my comments on that there. I have been posting like a mad woman on what is going on with me, but it mostly has been on another board so its hard to 'condense' here and now. One thing that I don't have trouble with in 'keeping busy' - actually my biggest challenge is the opposite - relaxing For me 'busy' helps to distract and 'relax' seems to encourage awareness which of course has been the blind spot that keeps me eating when I would be better to stop. And as you will find here - I DON'T give up easily if at all :) Perhaps my post sounded like a whine, and it could be too ;-) I do try to post the pits along with the peaks of my IE journey and I hope everyone here will do the same as they are comfortable doing so. Some days I just need to whine until I get tired of hearing myself do so - lol. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me - I truly appreciate it :) > > > > I am attacking binge eating from the awareness angle. I've gone the > > food legalization routine so there aren't any more 'no-no' foods for > > me. Yet I still find that I am eating when not hungry and that is clue > > enough that I have other reasons to discover that are driving me to > > eat, eat eat! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I could have written this myself Leah! > > I hear you on the wanting to be bad, it is like a safe (aside from the > damage I am doing to my body, mind and soul...) way for me to rebel > without getting into trouble from the outside world. > > Why I want to rebel I do not know. I think this desire to rebel is a > really important reason for me to make sure I keep the IE way of life > as far from a diet as possible; then there is nothing for me to rebel > against. Where as when I put rules about eating unto myself (no matter > how innocent and small or IEish they seem) it gives me something to > rebel against. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Those are very encouraging words Gillian! I have had brief, mini-insights to these and its so wonderful to know they will 'grow' and mature for me is I keep working at my IE. ehugs, Katcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I have very similar urges to be " bad " -- I actually think about it using that exact term. It's as if binging is the only way I can totally let go and do whatever I want. In some ways when I binge I am so in the moment -- I am able, in those moments, to give up of any control over myself (it's so nice to have times when you don't have to control yourself at all!!!). There is such an element of punishment for me in binging, and of redemtion in a subsequent purge or fast or promising yourself you will " be good. " I think understanding that urge a bit more could help me to understand why I binge and to find other more self-loving behaviors that could sometimes take the place of binging. I am so glad to know I am not crazy and I am not alone. Thank you all for your honesty and openness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Yes, and Leah, I think you are on to something. When I was a child I had to be " good " in order to get approval. I would lose that approval if I disappointed my parents. I really didn't feel free to make mistakes. I also grew up feeling judged by others. (Well, I really was since I was a kid who was " picked on " in school.) Add to this there was a lot of control over food in my home, when we could eat, what we would eat, how much we would eat and I think you have a recipe for a rebel and disordered eater. I was unable to rebel (ie, express my true feelings) without fear of losing approval or being judged. I carried this theme into my marriage. I became a chameleon (sp?), changing myself to fit my husband's image of me. I feared being my true self. To be honest my ex was an angry person and I was afraid of him. When I binged, my thoughts would be " I don't care! " That's ANGER. I started working on this before I divorced, trying to tune in to what I wanted and needed and giving myself that. I realized I couldn't get it from other people. We need to nourish our bodies with food when we're hungry, but when we binge, we are using food to hurt and abuse ourselves. It is a way to get comfort and meet a need, but at the same time it HURTS! Even though binging occurs when we're alone, it doesn't necessarily mean we're bored. I've found that staying busy and avoiding too much alone time can help. By the way, after changing myself to fit my husband's profile of the perfect wife, he left me for someone else. Best thing that ever happened to me! I was so out of touch with ME that I didn't even know how to dress. It was a process to get back to myself. I still care what people think and I'm in a profession (sales) where I need people to like me. My mother, who I loved dearly but wasn't totally accepting of me, passed away a year ago. My current husband is very non judgmental of me, but I still feel judged by others and have a hard time getting close to people. It may be that I continue to judge myself. We'll keep working on it. . . J. > > I hear you on the wanting to be bad, it is like a safe (aside from the > damage I am doing to my body, mind and soul...) way for me to rebel > without getting into trouble from the outside world. > > Why I want to rebel I do not know. I think this desire to rebel is a > really important reason for me to make sure I keep the IE way of life > as far from a diet as possible; then there is nothing for me to rebel > against. Where as when I put rules about eating unto myself (no matter > how innocent and small or IEish they seem) it gives me something to > rebel against. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Yes, and Leah, I think you are on to something. When I was a child I had to be " good " in order to get approval. I would lose that approval if I disappointed my parents. I really didn't feel free to make mistakes. I also grew up feeling judged by others. (Well, I really was since I was a kid who was " picked on " in school.) Add to this there was a lot of control over food in my home, when we could eat, what we would eat, how much we would eat and I think you have a recipe for a rebel and disordered eater. I was unable to rebel (ie, express my true feelings) without fear of losing approval or being judged. I carried this theme into my marriage. I became a chameleon (sp?), changing myself to fit my husband's image of me. I feared being my true self. To be honest my ex was an angry person and I was afraid of him. When I binged, my thoughts would be " I don't care! " That's ANGER. I started working on this before I divorced, trying to tune in to what I wanted and needed and giving myself that. I realized I couldn't get it from other people. We need to nourish our bodies with food when we're hungry, but when we binge, we are using food to hurt and abuse ourselves. It is a way to get comfort and meet a need, but at the same time it HURTS! Even though binging occurs when we're alone, it doesn't necessarily mean we're bored. I've found that staying busy and avoiding too much alone time can help. By the way, after changing myself to fit my husband's profile of the perfect wife, he left me for someone else. Best thing that ever happened to me! I was so out of touch with ME that I didn't even know how to dress. It was a process to get back to myself. I still care what people think and I'm in a profession (sales) where I need people to like me. My mother, who I loved dearly but wasn't totally accepting of me, passed away a year ago. My current husband is very non judgmental of me, but I still feel judged by others and have a hard time getting close to people. It may be that I continue to judge myself. We'll keep working on it. . . J. > > I hear you on the wanting to be bad, it is like a safe (aside from the > damage I am doing to my body, mind and soul...) way for me to rebel > without getting into trouble from the outside world. > > Why I want to rebel I do not know. I think this desire to rebel is a > really important reason for me to make sure I keep the IE way of life > as far from a diet as possible; then there is nothing for me to rebel > against. Where as when I put rules about eating unto myself (no matter > how innocent and small or IEish they seem) it gives me something to > rebel against. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Thank you for the post, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Thank you for the post, much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Reading this got me to thinking about how so many of us 'credit' boredom as a main reason we eat. I know that was my first impression when I started IE. But what sparked for me now is to wonder if what I'm naming 'boredom' is really numbing (of emotions) instead? Both are sort of 'spaced out' type states.... > > Hey J--I've been binge eating since I was a small child. I'm 41 now and have only realized in the past few years what binge eating is...I have a really hard time identifying the emotions I'm feeling when I binge. Mostly, it's boredom I suppose that starts it, but it's also almost exclusively when I'm alone (and almost always sugar or chocolate). I feel like I want to be bad. Does that make sense? What sort of emotion is that? > > I ordered the book " The Food and Feelings Workbook " recently that I read about on these boards. Anyone else out there having trouble identifying with your emotions when a binge begins?--Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Reading this got me to thinking about how so many of us 'credit' boredom as a main reason we eat. I know that was my first impression when I started IE. But what sparked for me now is to wonder if what I'm naming 'boredom' is really numbing (of emotions) instead? Both are sort of 'spaced out' type states.... > > Hey J--I've been binge eating since I was a small child. I'm 41 now and have only realized in the past few years what binge eating is...I have a really hard time identifying the emotions I'm feeling when I binge. Mostly, it's boredom I suppose that starts it, but it's also almost exclusively when I'm alone (and almost always sugar or chocolate). I feel like I want to be bad. Does that make sense? What sort of emotion is that? > > I ordered the book " The Food and Feelings Workbook " recently that I read about on these boards. Anyone else out there having trouble identifying with your emotions when a binge begins?--Lise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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