Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Leah that is a great question and I would love to hear some success stories as well as they would encourage me on this journey. EvaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Leah that is a great question and I would love to hear some success stories as well as they would encourage me on this journey. EvaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Leah that is a great question and I would love to hear some success stories as well as they would encourage me on this journey. EvaSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile. I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want to lose weight, to become a healthier weight. As I struggle back and forth between intuitive eating and non-intuitive eating I wonder has this worked for many in regards to becoming a healthy weight???? I know there are normal eaters out there who have never dieted and are at a healthy weight but are there many success stories for people who were obsessive dieters and eaters?? Have any of you become true intuitive eaters and stay at a healthy weight. I am not meaning to sound cynical, as I truly believe that I need IE and do not think I can ever go back to dieting but I am curious about the success stories that are out there. Thank you very much for any input any of you can give me on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I've wondered the same thing, Leah. I don't want to ever diet again either, but I wonder what my " natural healthy weight " is going to be. I've been eating intuitively since about March and for about the first six weeks didn't notice any change at all in my weight(I confess, I still weigh myself; what can I say, I've been a Weight Watcher for a lot of years!). Then, I started walking again, for the pleasure of exercising and not to enable me to have more points as my daily allowance, and I've noticed that my pants are beginning to feel tight. Naturally, I had to get on the scale - I've gained almost three pounds, and it's scaring me to death! Does anyone know if exercise makes you larger? I've enjoyed exercising so much, but I hate the way my clothes are fitting and cannot afford to buy a new wardrobe (I just bought larger pants so they would be comfortable). I know muscle weighs more than fat, but I thought it took up less space? The " diet part " of my personality wants to run to Weight Watchers and " just get the weight off " , but the " respect your body " part wants to keep on going and see what happens (but hopefully without buying a new wardrobe). > > Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile. > I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free > myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I > do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want > to lose weight, to become a healthier weight. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I've wondered the same thing, Leah. I don't want to ever diet again either, but I wonder what my " natural healthy weight " is going to be. I've been eating intuitively since about March and for about the first six weeks didn't notice any change at all in my weight(I confess, I still weigh myself; what can I say, I've been a Weight Watcher for a lot of years!). Then, I started walking again, for the pleasure of exercising and not to enable me to have more points as my daily allowance, and I've noticed that my pants are beginning to feel tight. Naturally, I had to get on the scale - I've gained almost three pounds, and it's scaring me to death! Does anyone know if exercise makes you larger? I've enjoyed exercising so much, but I hate the way my clothes are fitting and cannot afford to buy a new wardrobe (I just bought larger pants so they would be comfortable). I know muscle weighs more than fat, but I thought it took up less space? The " diet part " of my personality wants to run to Weight Watchers and " just get the weight off " , but the " respect your body " part wants to keep on going and see what happens (but hopefully without buying a new wardrobe). > > Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile. > I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free > myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I > do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want > to lose weight, to become a healthier weight. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I've wondered the same thing, Leah. I don't want to ever diet again either, but I wonder what my " natural healthy weight " is going to be. I've been eating intuitively since about March and for about the first six weeks didn't notice any change at all in my weight(I confess, I still weigh myself; what can I say, I've been a Weight Watcher for a lot of years!). Then, I started walking again, for the pleasure of exercising and not to enable me to have more points as my daily allowance, and I've noticed that my pants are beginning to feel tight. Naturally, I had to get on the scale - I've gained almost three pounds, and it's scaring me to death! Does anyone know if exercise makes you larger? I've enjoyed exercising so much, but I hate the way my clothes are fitting and cannot afford to buy a new wardrobe (I just bought larger pants so they would be comfortable). I know muscle weighs more than fat, but I thought it took up less space? The " diet part " of my personality wants to run to Weight Watchers and " just get the weight off " , but the " respect your body " part wants to keep on going and see what happens (but hopefully without buying a new wardrobe). > > Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile. > I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free > myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I > do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want > to lose weight, to become a healthier weight. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I have put on a bit of weight also in the last month, but in fairness to IE I know I have not been eating or living as intuitively as my body and my mind needs. like you I am not all that pleased with this weight gain. For both surface and in-depth reasons I want to lose the weight - but even more importantly I want/need to be free of diets. I know that once I take the steps to truly live and eat in an intuitive manner the weight will come off because how can it not. My only fear is that I do not have the strength to face my fears and inhibitions about living intuitively and experiencing life on an intuitive manner. I know it is about more than just eating when I am hungry and stopping when I am satisfied. Sorry I have kind of gone off on a side bar - For your question about muscle weight and size I do know people say muscle weighs more I do not know about the size thing though. Enjoy your day. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I have put on a bit of weight also in the last month, but in fairness to IE I know I have not been eating or living as intuitively as my body and my mind needs. like you I am not all that pleased with this weight gain. For both surface and in-depth reasons I want to lose the weight - but even more importantly I want/need to be free of diets. I know that once I take the steps to truly live and eat in an intuitive manner the weight will come off because how can it not. My only fear is that I do not have the strength to face my fears and inhibitions about living intuitively and experiencing life on an intuitive manner. I know it is about more than just eating when I am hungry and stopping when I am satisfied. Sorry I have kind of gone off on a side bar - For your question about muscle weight and size I do know people say muscle weighs more I do not know about the size thing though. Enjoy your day. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I have put on a bit of weight also in the last month, but in fairness to IE I know I have not been eating or living as intuitively as my body and my mind needs. like you I am not all that pleased with this weight gain. For both surface and in-depth reasons I want to lose the weight - but even more importantly I want/need to be free of diets. I know that once I take the steps to truly live and eat in an intuitive manner the weight will come off because how can it not. My only fear is that I do not have the strength to face my fears and inhibitions about living intuitively and experiencing life on an intuitive manner. I know it is about more than just eating when I am hungry and stopping when I am satisfied. Sorry I have kind of gone off on a side bar - For your question about muscle weight and size I do know people say muscle weighs more I do not know about the size thing though. Enjoy your day. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Leah, I honestly have been wondering the same thing. I started eating intuitively about 2 weeks ago, and haven't had the usual urges to binge. I've also been exercising more consistently, but my pants are still feeling tighter than usual. I haven't weighed myself (which is really hard!). I have an idea of where I think my healthy weight is, but I'm scared that my body thinks it should weigh more than my mind thinks it should, if that makes sense. I hope we can get some good advice on your question. > > Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile. > I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free > myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I > do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want > to lose weight, to become a healthier weight. > > As I struggle back and forth between intuitive eating and non- intuitive > eating I wonder has this worked for many in regards to becoming a > healthy weight???? I know there are normal eaters out there who have > never dieted and are at a healthy weight but are there many success > stories for people who were obsessive dieters and eaters?? Have any of > you become true intuitive eaters and stay at a healthy weight. > > I am not meaning to sound cynical, as I truly believe that I need IE > and do not think I can ever go back to dieting but I am curious about > the success stories that are out there. > > Thank you very much for any input any of you can give me on this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Leah, I honestly have been wondering the same thing. I started eating intuitively about 2 weeks ago, and haven't had the usual urges to binge. I've also been exercising more consistently, but my pants are still feeling tighter than usual. I haven't weighed myself (which is really hard!). I have an idea of where I think my healthy weight is, but I'm scared that my body thinks it should weigh more than my mind thinks it should, if that makes sense. I hope we can get some good advice on your question. > > Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile. > I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free > myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I > do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want > to lose weight, to become a healthier weight. > > As I struggle back and forth between intuitive eating and non- intuitive > eating I wonder has this worked for many in regards to becoming a > healthy weight???? I know there are normal eaters out there who have > never dieted and are at a healthy weight but are there many success > stories for people who were obsessive dieters and eaters?? Have any of > you become true intuitive eaters and stay at a healthy weight. > > I am not meaning to sound cynical, as I truly believe that I need IE > and do not think I can ever go back to dieting but I am curious about > the success stories that are out there. > > Thank you very much for any input any of you can give me on this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Leah, I honestly have been wondering the same thing. I started eating intuitively about 2 weeks ago, and haven't had the usual urges to binge. I've also been exercising more consistently, but my pants are still feeling tighter than usual. I haven't weighed myself (which is really hard!). I have an idea of where I think my healthy weight is, but I'm scared that my body thinks it should weigh more than my mind thinks it should, if that makes sense. I hope we can get some good advice on your question. > > Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile. > I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free > myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I > do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want > to lose weight, to become a healthier weight. > > As I struggle back and forth between intuitive eating and non- intuitive > eating I wonder has this worked for many in regards to becoming a > healthy weight???? I know there are normal eaters out there who have > never dieted and are at a healthy weight but are there many success > stories for people who were obsessive dieters and eaters?? Have any of > you become true intuitive eaters and stay at a healthy weight. > > I am not meaning to sound cynical, as I truly believe that I need IE > and do not think I can ever go back to dieting but I am curious about > the success stories that are out there. > > Thank you very much for any input any of you can give me on this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Hey Leah, I am currently only eating 50% of everything I eat - waiting 20 minutes to see if I'm still hungry and I have been "releasing" weight with this approach. I am, 99% of the time, when I half my food, I am not hungry. I eat only 4-5 times a day and I only eat when I am very hungry. Sometimes, I only eat 3 times (but my hypoglycemic symptoms can easily quick in on those days, so I avoid eating only 3 times). So, yes, IE can help you release as much weight as you are supposed to release Good luck.Emma Weight loss question Question for those of you who have been doing this for awhile.I know I am supposed to be doing this for the good of me and to free myself from the obsession of dieting; I agree with that and know that I do not ever want to ever diet again but I have to be honest...I do want to lose weight, to become a healthier weight.As I struggle back and forth between intuitive eating and non-intuitive eating I wonder has this worked for many in regards to becoming a healthy weight???? I know there are normal eaters out there who have never dieted and are at a healthy weight but are there many success stories for people who were obsessive dieters and eaters?? Have any of you become true intuitive eaters and stay at a healthy weight.I am not meaning to sound cynical, as I truly believe that I need IE and do not think I can ever go back to dieting but I am curious about the success stories that are out there.Thank you very much for any input any of you can give me on this. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I think a lot of time I thinkof myself as "doing intuitive eating," but what I'm REALLY doing is "letting go of the diet mentality" ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitiveeating part as much as I'm embracing the makingpeace with food part. And maybe that's okay andit's just part of learning the whole process Wow, that makes so much sense!! I am in the same boat, getting better all the time about letting go of the diet mentality and the good and bad foods and good and bad issues..........but soon it could be time to move beyond that into the next stages of eating only when physically hungry, not emotionally hungry. Thanks for the wonderfully non-rambling thoughts!!! :)See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder about the weight loss issue myself. I've been doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do it is probably more accurate) and in that time I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in our workplace diet and fitness group talk about how she had lost 20% of her body weight since January - and good for her but it was just chock full of DO's and DON'TS - of " good " food and " bad " food and all that diet mentality crap I've been trying so hard to let go of. But at the same time, there's no denying this woman sitting there talking looks just GREAT! On the other hand her talk was also full of things she said she eats " because I know it's good for me " but that she freely admitted she can't stand - and food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc. It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality especially when you see it WORKING for someone. It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting go of that mentality and making peace with food and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow of her former self and the " Intuitive Eater " hasn't lost a thing! I DO think I had a revelation today, after that session at work and after I read through some of the postings here: I think a lot of time I think of myself as " doing intuitive eating, " but what I'm REALLY doing is " letting go of the diet mentality " ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive eating part as much as I'm embracing the making peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and it's just part of learning the whole process. But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to BELIEVE I'm doing " intuitive eating " when what I think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing food - the other is learning to pay attention to your true hunger and satiety. I think you can actually do one and not the other, and what's needed is both. Zat make sense... I may be rambling.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder about the weight loss issue myself. I've been doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do it is probably more accurate) and in that time I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in our workplace diet and fitness group talk about how she had lost 20% of her body weight since January - and good for her but it was just chock full of DO's and DON'TS - of " good " food and " bad " food and all that diet mentality crap I've been trying so hard to let go of. But at the same time, there's no denying this woman sitting there talking looks just GREAT! On the other hand her talk was also full of things she said she eats " because I know it's good for me " but that she freely admitted she can't stand - and food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc. It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality especially when you see it WORKING for someone. It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting go of that mentality and making peace with food and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow of her former self and the " Intuitive Eater " hasn't lost a thing! I DO think I had a revelation today, after that session at work and after I read through some of the postings here: I think a lot of time I think of myself as " doing intuitive eating, " but what I'm REALLY doing is " letting go of the diet mentality " ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive eating part as much as I'm embracing the making peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and it's just part of learning the whole process. But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to BELIEVE I'm doing " intuitive eating " when what I think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing food - the other is learning to pay attention to your true hunger and satiety. I think you can actually do one and not the other, and what's needed is both. Zat make sense... I may be rambling.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder about the weight loss issue myself. I've been doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do it is probably more accurate) and in that time I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in our workplace diet and fitness group talk about how she had lost 20% of her body weight since January - and good for her but it was just chock full of DO's and DON'TS - of " good " food and " bad " food and all that diet mentality crap I've been trying so hard to let go of. But at the same time, there's no denying this woman sitting there talking looks just GREAT! On the other hand her talk was also full of things she said she eats " because I know it's good for me " but that she freely admitted she can't stand - and food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc. It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality especially when you see it WORKING for someone. It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting go of that mentality and making peace with food and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow of her former self and the " Intuitive Eater " hasn't lost a thing! I DO think I had a revelation today, after that session at work and after I read through some of the postings here: I think a lot of time I think of myself as " doing intuitive eating, " but what I'm REALLY doing is " letting go of the diet mentality " ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive eating part as much as I'm embracing the making peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and it's just part of learning the whole process. But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to BELIEVE I'm doing " intuitive eating " when what I think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing food - the other is learning to pay attention to your true hunger and satiety. I think you can actually do one and not the other, and what's needed is both. Zat make sense... I may be rambling.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Thanks for the post, " I think a lot of time I think of myself as " doing intuitive eating, " but what I'm REALLY doing is " letting go of the diet mentality " ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive eating part as much as I'm embracing the making peace with food part. " You described me to a tee with that. I am hoping as I learn to trust myself with letting go of the diet mentality; begin to believe myself when I tell myself that I will not force another diet on me, that I will start listening to myself in a more intuitive manner. I see improvement in that area but the steps are small. Thanks again for your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Gymisadrug--You are not rambling...I think I've been doing exactly the same thing. I feel like I'm up about 5 lbs (not that I've been on a scale). I have not been dieting or limiting what foods I eat, but I have not been eating only when I am hungry or stopping when I'm full either. I eat whatever I want when I want. I think the trick is to be conscious of when and how I'm eating. One step at a time though, right? Stopping diet mentality and making peace w/ food are the first 2 steps I think. And I seem to have those 2 covered. -Lisegymisadrug wrote: I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonderabout the weight loss issue myself. I've been doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to doit is probably more accurate) and in that timeI really haven't seen any weight loss. I've actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. Today at work I sat and listened to a woman inour workplace diet and fitness group talk abouthow she had lost 20% of her body weight sinceJanuary - and good for her but it was just chockfull of DO's and DON'TS - of "good" food and "bad" food and all that diet mentality crap I'vebeen trying so hard to let go of. But at thesame time, there's no denying this woman sittingthere talking looks just GREAT! On the otherhand her talk was also full of things she saidshe eats "because I know it's good for me" butthat she freely admitted she can't stand - andfood she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc.It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentalityespecially when you see it WORKING for someone. It's hard to sit there feeling good about lettinggo of that mentality and making peace with food and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadowof her former self and the "Intuitive Eater" hasn't lost a thing! I DO think I had a revelation today, after that session at work and after I read through some ofthe postings here: I think a lot of time I thinkof myself as "doing intuitive eating," but what I'm REALLY doing is "letting go of the diet mentality" ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitiveeating part as much as I'm embracing the makingpeace with food part. And maybe that's okay andit's just part of learning the whole process. But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me toBELIEVE I'm doing "intuitive eating" when what Ithink I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simplygiving up the good/bad food concepts, which is not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizingfood - the other is learning to pay attention toyour true hunger and satiety. I think you can actually do one and not the other, and what's neededis both. Zat make sense... I may be rambling.... Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I'm no expert but i think that letting go of the diet mentality is part of the process. I read Geneen Roths books and she wrote about how at first, she ate and ate and ate and gained so much weight but she didn't care. She didn't diet and wanted to show her body that whatever it wants it can have. And that eventually, the " urgency " and the cravings for food shifted from junk food and processed foods and she began to crave things like fruit, vegetables, etc. But the thing she did do all the time was log. I am not sure if in the beginning she even stopped at fullness. I think in the beginning she just stopped dieting, but I can't remember. Anyway, my point is (in all my 2 days experience:) ), is that even though I am probably going to gain some weight as some of you mention you may be too, this is probably a long term thing where first yes, there is weight gain, but if you trust your body eventually to tell you what to eat and when to stop, it should all stabilize to natural weight. That said, the last two days, I can't stop thinking about ofod. When to eat what I want, why I want it, will I want it if I wait, do i really want it, can i have it anywya if I am not sure that I want it!!? Crazyness! > I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder > about the weight loss issue myself. I've been > doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do > it is probably more accurate) and in that time > I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've > actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. > Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in > our workplace diet and fitness group talk about > how she had lost 20% of her body weight since > January - and good for her but it was just chock > full of DO's and DON'TS - of " good " food and > " bad " food and all that diet mentality crap I've > been trying so hard to let go of. But at the > same time, there's no denying this woman sitting > there talking looks just GREAT! On the other > hand her talk was also full of things she said > she eats " because I know it's good for me " but > that she freely admitted she can't stand - and > food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc. > > It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality > especially when you see it WORKING for someone. > It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting > go of that mentality and making peace with food > and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow > of her former self and the " Intuitive Eater " > hasn't lost a thing! > > I DO think I had a revelation today, after that > session at work and after I read through some of > the postings here: I think a lot of time I think > of myself as " doing intuitive eating, " but what > I'm REALLY doing is " letting go of the diet > mentality " ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive > eating part as much as I'm embracing the making > peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and > it's just part of learning the whole process. > But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to > BELIEVE I'm doing " intuitive eating " when what I > think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply > giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is > not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing > food - the other is learning to pay attention to > your true hunger and satiety. I think you can > actually do one and not the other, and what's needed > is both. > > Zat make sense... I may be rambling.... > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Marina--It sort of makes you feel out of control doesn't it? I am really having a hard time reconciling conscious eating w/ feeling hungry and feeling full!marina23u wrote: I'm no expert but i think that letting go of the diet mentality is part of the process. I read Geneen Roths books and she wrote about how at first, she ate and ate and ate and gained so much weight but she didn't care. She didn't diet and wanted to show her body that whatever it wants it can have. And that eventually, the "urgency" and the cravings for food shifted from junk food and processed foods and she began to crave things like fruit, vegetables, etc. But the thing she did do all the time was log. I am not sure if in the beginning she even stopped at fullness. I think in the beginning she just stopped dieting, but I can't remember. Anyway, my point is (in all my 2 days experience:) ), is that even though I am probably going to gain some weight as some of you mention you may be too, this is probably a long term thing where first yes, there is weight gain, but if you trust your body eventually to tell you what to eat and when to stop, it should all stabilize to natural weight. That said, the last two days, I can't stop thinking about ofod. When to eat what I want, why I want it, will I want it if I wait, do i really want it, can i have it anywya if I am not sure that I want it!!? Crazyness!> I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder> about the weight loss issue myself. I've been > doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do> it is probably more accurate) and in that time> I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've > actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. > Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in> our workplace diet and fitness group talk about> how she had lost 20% of her body weight since> January - and good for her but it was just chock> full of DO's and DON'TS - of "good" food and > "bad" food and all that diet mentality crap I've> been trying so hard to let go of. But at the> same time, there's no denying this woman sitting> there talking looks just GREAT! On the other> hand her talk was also full of things she said> she eats "because I know it's good for me" but> that she freely admitted she can't stand - and> food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc.> > It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality> especially when you see it WORKING for someone. > It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting> go of that mentality and making peace with food > and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow> of her former self and the "Intuitive Eater" > hasn't lost a thing! > > I DO think I had a revelation today, after that > session at work and after I read through some of> the postings here: I think a lot of time I think> of myself as "doing intuitive eating," but what > I'm REALLY doing is "letting go of the diet > mentality" ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive> eating part as much as I'm embracing the making> peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and> it's just part of learning the whole process. > But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to> BELIEVE I'm doing "intuitive eating" when what I> think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply> giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is > not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing> food - the other is learning to pay attention to> your true hunger and satiety. I think you can > actually do one and not the other, and what's needed> is both. > > Zat make sense... I may be rambling....> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Marina--It sort of makes you feel out of control doesn't it? I am really having a hard time reconciling conscious eating w/ feeling hungry and feeling full!marina23u wrote: I'm no expert but i think that letting go of the diet mentality is part of the process. I read Geneen Roths books and she wrote about how at first, she ate and ate and ate and gained so much weight but she didn't care. She didn't diet and wanted to show her body that whatever it wants it can have. And that eventually, the "urgency" and the cravings for food shifted from junk food and processed foods and she began to crave things like fruit, vegetables, etc. But the thing she did do all the time was log. I am not sure if in the beginning she even stopped at fullness. I think in the beginning she just stopped dieting, but I can't remember. Anyway, my point is (in all my 2 days experience:) ), is that even though I am probably going to gain some weight as some of you mention you may be too, this is probably a long term thing where first yes, there is weight gain, but if you trust your body eventually to tell you what to eat and when to stop, it should all stabilize to natural weight. That said, the last two days, I can't stop thinking about ofod. When to eat what I want, why I want it, will I want it if I wait, do i really want it, can i have it anywya if I am not sure that I want it!!? Crazyness!> I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder> about the weight loss issue myself. I've been > doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do> it is probably more accurate) and in that time> I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've > actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. > Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in> our workplace diet and fitness group talk about> how she had lost 20% of her body weight since> January - and good for her but it was just chock> full of DO's and DON'TS - of "good" food and > "bad" food and all that diet mentality crap I've> been trying so hard to let go of. But at the> same time, there's no denying this woman sitting> there talking looks just GREAT! On the other> hand her talk was also full of things she said> she eats "because I know it's good for me" but> that she freely admitted she can't stand - and> food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc.> > It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality> especially when you see it WORKING for someone. > It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting> go of that mentality and making peace with food > and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow> of her former self and the "Intuitive Eater" > hasn't lost a thing! > > I DO think I had a revelation today, after that > session at work and after I read through some of> the postings here: I think a lot of time I think> of myself as "doing intuitive eating," but what > I'm REALLY doing is "letting go of the diet > mentality" ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive> eating part as much as I'm embracing the making> peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and> it's just part of learning the whole process. > But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to> BELIEVE I'm doing "intuitive eating" when what I> think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply> giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is > not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing> food - the other is learning to pay attention to> your true hunger and satiety. I think you can > actually do one and not the other, and what's needed> is both. > > Zat make sense... I may be rambling....> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Hey Marina, When I first started doing IE, I also gained about 5-7Ibs, then I started to realize my body does not need that much food. I was rebelling and eating all the foods I had denied myself while counting my calories. I posted earlier that I regularly stock my pantry and fridge with a lot of junk food (think of it as this: when children have so much toys to play with, they get sick of it). In my case, it has worked. I see all that junk food and I'm like, ahhhh, what else is there that I actually want? The other day, my husband was like, why are you buying all this junk food? And then before I could reply, he was like: "Yeah, I know - it's all about IE!" Anyhow, now I am craving a lot more healthier foods (I buy only small amounts of this), but my portions have drastically reduced due to me halfing my food - eating 50%, waiting 20 minutes to see if I'm full and then a) leaving the rest or eating the rest. The majority of the time, I am not hungry. As a matter of fact, now I am feeling fuller and fuller. I could not even finish a chicken sandwich at s today. I am not sure who wrote earlier, but she had a point when she mentioned, 'if you would like to lose weight, you need to eat less.' And that thought makes so much sense to me. In the past, I used to think (when I was on South Beach or some other low-calorie diet), I had to choose certain types of food to lose weight or drastically reduce portions to the point where, if my stomach did not still grumble after a meal, I was "bad." Now, I can eat what I want, when I am VERY hungry (a 0 or 1) and I've been finding I rarely finish an entire meal unless it's the size of my fist because I feel full. There is a falsity in the United States and in other countries that we need to eat a certain amount to feel satisfied, when in fact, the human body can do with waaay less food than is consumed by the majority of Americans. A great book to read on that is called Mindless Eating by somebody. Anyhow, since halfing my food, I am happy to report, I have been losing weight. But everyone is different and will approach IE differently. It is not a diet for me, it's a natural way of life that will last a lifetime. I do not expect my stomach to always only want 50% of every meal, but for now - that's what it's telling me. This may sound weird, but sometimes I have conversations with my body parts and the tummy and I have had some deep conversations lately (usually done before or after a shower in front of the mirror). For anyone who has tried it, it's incredibly liberating and puts you in touch with deep parts of yourself. ....Hope no one thinks I'm crazy! Sorry for the long e-mail.... Good luck! Emma Re: Weight loss question I'm no expert but i think that letting go of the diet mentality is part of the process. I read Geneen Roths books and she wrote about how at first, she ate and ate and ate and gained so much weight but she didn't care. She didn't diet and wanted to show her body that whatever it wants it can have. And that eventually, the "urgency" and the cravings for food shifted from junk food and processed foods and she began to crave things like fruit, vegetables, etc. But the thing she did do all the time was log. I am not sure if in the beginning she even stopped at fullness. I think in the beginning she just stopped dieting, but I can't remember. Anyway, my point is (in all my 2 days experience:) ), is that even though I am probably going to gain some weight as some of you mention you may be too, this is probably a long term thing where first yes, there is weight gain, but if you trust your body eventually to tell you what to eat and when to stop, it should all stabilize to natural weight. That said, the last two days, I can't stop thinking about ofod. When to eat what I want, why I want it, will I want it if I wait, do i really want it, can i have it anywya if I am not sure that I want it!!? Crazyness!> I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder> about the weight loss issue myself. I've been > doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do> it is probably more accurate) and in that time> I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've > actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. > Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in> our workplace diet and fitness group talk about> how she had lost 20% of her body weight since> January - and good for her but it was just chock> full of DO's and DON'TS - of "good" food and > "bad" food and all that diet mentality crap I've> been trying so hard to let go of. But at the> same time, there's no denying this woman sitting> there talking looks just GREAT! On the other> hand her talk was also full of things she said> she eats "because I know it's good for me" but> that she freely admitted she can't stand - and> food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc.> > It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality> especially when you see it WORKING for someone. > It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting> go of that mentality and making peace with food > and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow> of her former self and the "Intuitive Eater" > hasn't lost a thing! > > I DO think I had a revelation today, after that > session at work and after I read through some of> the postings here: I think a lot of time I think> of myself as "doing intuitive eating," but what > I'm REALLY doing is "letting go of the diet > mentality" ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive> eating part as much as I'm embracing the making> peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and> it's just part of learning the whole process. > But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to> BELIEVE I'm doing "intuitive eating" when what I> think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply> giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is > not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing> food - the other is learning to pay attention to> your true hunger and satiety. I think you can > actually do one and not the other, and what's needed> is both. > > Zat make sense... I may be rambling....> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 Hey Marina, When I first started doing IE, I also gained about 5-7Ibs, then I started to realize my body does not need that much food. I was rebelling and eating all the foods I had denied myself while counting my calories. I posted earlier that I regularly stock my pantry and fridge with a lot of junk food (think of it as this: when children have so much toys to play with, they get sick of it). In my case, it has worked. I see all that junk food and I'm like, ahhhh, what else is there that I actually want? The other day, my husband was like, why are you buying all this junk food? And then before I could reply, he was like: "Yeah, I know - it's all about IE!" Anyhow, now I am craving a lot more healthier foods (I buy only small amounts of this), but my portions have drastically reduced due to me halfing my food - eating 50%, waiting 20 minutes to see if I'm full and then a) leaving the rest or eating the rest. The majority of the time, I am not hungry. As a matter of fact, now I am feeling fuller and fuller. I could not even finish a chicken sandwich at s today. I am not sure who wrote earlier, but she had a point when she mentioned, 'if you would like to lose weight, you need to eat less.' And that thought makes so much sense to me. In the past, I used to think (when I was on South Beach or some other low-calorie diet), I had to choose certain types of food to lose weight or drastically reduce portions to the point where, if my stomach did not still grumble after a meal, I was "bad." Now, I can eat what I want, when I am VERY hungry (a 0 or 1) and I've been finding I rarely finish an entire meal unless it's the size of my fist because I feel full. There is a falsity in the United States and in other countries that we need to eat a certain amount to feel satisfied, when in fact, the human body can do with waaay less food than is consumed by the majority of Americans. A great book to read on that is called Mindless Eating by somebody. Anyhow, since halfing my food, I am happy to report, I have been losing weight. But everyone is different and will approach IE differently. It is not a diet for me, it's a natural way of life that will last a lifetime. I do not expect my stomach to always only want 50% of every meal, but for now - that's what it's telling me. This may sound weird, but sometimes I have conversations with my body parts and the tummy and I have had some deep conversations lately (usually done before or after a shower in front of the mirror). For anyone who has tried it, it's incredibly liberating and puts you in touch with deep parts of yourself. ....Hope no one thinks I'm crazy! Sorry for the long e-mail.... Good luck! Emma Re: Weight loss question I'm no expert but i think that letting go of the diet mentality is part of the process. I read Geneen Roths books and she wrote about how at first, she ate and ate and ate and gained so much weight but she didn't care. She didn't diet and wanted to show her body that whatever it wants it can have. And that eventually, the "urgency" and the cravings for food shifted from junk food and processed foods and she began to crave things like fruit, vegetables, etc. But the thing she did do all the time was log. I am not sure if in the beginning she even stopped at fullness. I think in the beginning she just stopped dieting, but I can't remember. Anyway, my point is (in all my 2 days experience:) ), is that even though I am probably going to gain some weight as some of you mention you may be too, this is probably a long term thing where first yes, there is weight gain, but if you trust your body eventually to tell you what to eat and when to stop, it should all stabilize to natural weight. That said, the last two days, I can't stop thinking about ofod. When to eat what I want, why I want it, will I want it if I wait, do i really want it, can i have it anywya if I am not sure that I want it!!? Crazyness!> I've got to admit I'm starting to really wonder> about the weight loss issue myself. I've been > doing IE since about January (or LEARNING to do> it is probably more accurate) and in that time> I really haven't seen any weight loss. I've > actually gained about 8 pounds in that time. > Today at work I sat and listened to a woman in> our workplace diet and fitness group talk about> how she had lost 20% of her body weight since> January - and good for her but it was just chock> full of DO's and DON'TS - of "good" food and > "bad" food and all that diet mentality crap I've> been trying so hard to let go of. But at the> same time, there's no denying this woman sitting> there talking looks just GREAT! On the other> hand her talk was also full of things she said> she eats "because I know it's good for me" but> that she freely admitted she can't stand - and> food she won't touch but would LOVE to have, etc.> > It's so hard to let go of the dieting mentality> especially when you see it WORKING for someone. > It's hard to sit there feeling good about letting> go of that mentality and making peace with food > and all that when Ms. Diet Mentality is a shadow> of her former self and the "Intuitive Eater" > hasn't lost a thing! > > I DO think I had a revelation today, after that > session at work and after I read through some of> the postings here: I think a lot of time I think> of myself as "doing intuitive eating," but what > I'm REALLY doing is "letting go of the diet > mentality" ONLY - I'm not embracing the intuitive> eating part as much as I'm embracing the making> peace with food part. And maybe that's okay and> it's just part of learning the whole process. > But I think, at least for me, it's easy for me to> BELIEVE I'm doing "intuitive eating" when what I> think I'm REALLY doing some of the time is simply> giving up the good/bad food concepts, which is > not the same thing. One part is quitting demonizing> food - the other is learning to pay attention to> your true hunger and satiety. I think you can > actually do one and not the other, and what's needed> is both. > > Zat make sense... I may be rambling....> > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.> Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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