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> Of course, after he hanged himself everybody

>decided he wasn't working the program right.

I've been wanting to write here about this subject for a while and that sentence

is the perfect

lead-in. Maybe some of you folks who've been on the XA merry-go-round longer

than I did

can give me some insight about something.

Just what in tarnation is meant by " working the program " ? " Working " the steps?

In my mind

these " Steps " just didn't take a whole lot of what I would think of as work.

Just a lot of silly

list making which focuses on all the shit which it isn't that healthy to focus

on.

The 9th step (making amends to people you screwed as long as it won't screw them

up) is

the only one of the steps that actually seems to involve any legitimate work

effort. The rest of

it seems to be a big mess of humbling yourself.

Maybe " working " the steps just implied the arduous mental process of beating

this crap into

your head by beating yourself down to its level? You succeed when you have

finally

accomplished the fine art of hating yourself so much that you think anything

good in your life

is absolutely nothing more (or less) than a precious gift from the Big Guy

Upstairs that dared

to save a wretch like you.

Or is there more to it than this? I rather doubt not.

-dmt

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No one knows what it means to " work the program " . There's no consistent

answer. Here's my spin... the rewards of working the program are flat

emotional affect, and the gift of pious arrogance which allows one to

look down upon anyone who has strong emotions -- these would be

anything other than gratitude & serenity.

I once heard it described that we should consider the steps in

everything we do. Before I select a can of Spaghetti-Os from the

supermarket shelf, I should be aware of whether my choice hurts anyone,

and whether it is in accordance with the will of God, and so on. The

implication is that if I operate in line with the will of God, nothing

bad will ever befall us. But if it does, it is really a blessing in

disguise, a lesson from God, for which I should be grateful.

apple

> I've been wanting to write here about this subject for a while and

that sentence is the perfect

> lead-in. Maybe some of you folks who've been on the XA

merry-go-round longer than I did

> can give me some insight about something.

>

> Just what in tarnation is meant by " working the program " ? " Working "

the steps? In my mind

> these " Steps " just didn't take a whole lot of what I would think of

as work. Just a lot of silly

> list making which focuses on all the shit which it isn't that healthy

to focus on.

>

> The 9th step (making amends to people you screwed as long as it won't

screw them up) is

> the only one of the steps that actually seems to involve any

legitimate work effort. The rest of

> it seems to be a big mess of humbling yourself.

>

> Maybe " working " the steps just implied the arduous mental process of

beating this crap into

> your head by beating yourself down to its level? You succeed when you

have finally

> accomplished the fine art of hating yourself so much that you think

anything good in your life

> is absolutely nothing more (or less) than a precious gift from the

Big Guy Upstairs that dared

> to save a wretch like you.

>

> Or is there more to it than this? I rather doubt not.

>

> -dmt

>

>

> demitria monde thraam

> transmits at:

> http://thraam.com

>

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At 03:00 18/11/99 -0800, you wrote:

>No one knows what it means to " work the program " . There's no consistent

>answer. Here's my spin... the rewards of working the program are flat

>emotional affect, and the gift of pious arrogance which allows one to

>look down upon anyone who has strong emotions -- these would be

>anything other than gratitude & serenity.

>

>I once heard it described that we should consider the steps in

>everything we do. Before I select a can of Spaghetti-Os from the

>supermarket shelf, I should be aware of whether my choice hurts anyone,

>and whether it is in accordance with the will of God, and so on. The

>implication is that if I operate in line with the will of God, nothing

>bad will ever befall us. But if it does, it is really a blessing in

>disguise, a lesson from God, for which I should be grateful.

>apple

Thanks for that- I think I can see now where I was doing it wrong. I never

tried to apply spiritual principles to the choice, purchase, or consumption

of tinned spaghetti. In fact I can see that my spaghetti-related behaviour

was self will run riot. I made the decision to choose any old spaghetti I

liked based on self. Probably my entire tinned goods life was morally out

of kilter and far from what God wanted for me. I think I need to pray about

it now...

JB

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In a message dated 11/18/99 5:10:15 AM Central Standard Time,

appledtp@... writes:

> No one knows what it means to " work the program " . There's no consistent

> answer. Here's my spin... the rewards of working the program are flat

> emotional affect, and the gift of pious arrogance which allows one to

> look down upon anyone who has strong emotions -- these would be

> anything other than gratitude & serenity.

Hi Apple, The paradox here is that while no one knows what it means to

" work the program " steppers sure are quick to accuse someone of " NOT working

the program " .

To me it has always seemed like the blueprint for a multi-level marketing

or pyramid scheme. Convince someone you have a sure way for them to succeed

in something or make money,etc. Tell them what to do. If they fail you simply

explain to them that they're " not working the program " .

Artie

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Heathen! ha ha ha ha ha

The usual Berenbaum humor... I love it!

Apple

> Thanks for that- I think I can see now where I was doing it wrong. I

never

> tried to apply spiritual principles to the choice, purchase, or

consumption

> of tinned spaghetti. In fact I can see that my spaghetti-related

behaviour

> was self will run riot. I made the decision to choose any old

spaghetti I

> liked based on self. Probably my entire tinned goods life was morally

out

> of kilter and far from what God wanted for me. I think I need to pray

about

> it now...

>

> JB

>

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Heathen! ha ha ha ha ha

The usual Berenbaum humor... I love it!

Apple

> Thanks for that- I think I can see now where I was doing it wrong. I

never

> tried to apply spiritual principles to the choice, purchase, or

consumption

> of tinned spaghetti. In fact I can see that my spaghetti-related

behaviour

> was self will run riot. I made the decision to choose any old

spaghetti I

> liked based on self. Probably my entire tinned goods life was morally

out

> of kilter and far from what God wanted for me. I think I need to pray

about

> it now...

>

> JB

>

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I cannot let this get by without input...

FA-Flatulence Anonymous

" LET GO AND LET GOD "

" THIS TOO SHALL PASS "

We admitted we were powerless over our farts...!!!

apple " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9512

> Heathen! ha ha ha ha ha

> The usual Berenbaum humor... I love it!

> Apple

>

> > Thanks for that- I think I can see now where I was doing it wrong. I

> never

> > tried to apply spiritual principles to the choice, purchase, or

> consumption

> > of tinned spaghetti. In fact I can see that my spaghetti-related

> behaviour

> > was self will run riot. I made the decision to choose any old

> spaghetti I

> > liked based on self. Probably my entire tinned goods life was

morally

> out

> > of kilter and far from what God wanted for me. I think I need to

pray

> about

> > it now...

> >

> > JB

> >

>

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I cannot let this get by without input...

FA-Flatulence Anonymous

" LET GO AND LET GOD "

" THIS TOO SHALL PASS "

We admitted we were powerless over our farts...!!!

apple " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9512

> Heathen! ha ha ha ha ha

> The usual Berenbaum humor... I love it!

> Apple

>

> > Thanks for that- I think I can see now where I was doing it wrong. I

> never

> > tried to apply spiritual principles to the choice, purchase, or

> consumption

> > of tinned spaghetti. In fact I can see that my spaghetti-related

> behaviour

> > was self will run riot. I made the decision to choose any old

> spaghetti I

> > liked based on self. Probably my entire tinned goods life was

morally

> out

> > of kilter and far from what God wanted for me. I think I need to

pray

> about

> > it now...

> >

> > JB

> >

>

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Working the program is similar to working a job. Its just as bad! No,

that old saying " it works if you work it " describes a 5 point plan of action

spelled out on most Token clubs:

-don't drink, go to meetings, call your sponsor, read the

big book and keep coming back.

Do they have a grade for who is working the program well? In some ways.

Usually, the person with the most sobriety time gets the best grade from

others. And people who have worked all 12 steps get special recognition.

If you want extra credit, you can help set up meetings, fix coffee, form

social events, sponsor someone. The possibilities are endless.

If only the program actually worked. There big slogan is " keep it

simple, stupid. " Unfortunately, there's nothing simple about AA. Its not

as easy as don't drink, come to our meetings for one year and then come back

only when you need them. Instead, its " come back until the day you die. "

In AA, " works " basically means doing exactly what they tell you do and

not asking why. And for a lot of newcomers who are in a lot of trouble

legally, financially and personally: that can sound easy enough.

Matt

>From: monde@...

>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: 12-step-freeegroups

>Subject: " Working " the program

>Date: 17 Nov 99 23:54:35 -0800

>

> > Of course, after he hanged himself everybody

> >decided he wasn't working the program right.

>

>I've been wanting to write here about this subject for a while and that

>sentence is the perfect

>lead-in. Maybe some of you folks who've been on the XA merry-go-round

>longer than I did

>can give me some insight about something.

>

>Just what in tarnation is meant by " working the program " ? " Working " the

>steps? In my mind

>these " Steps " just didn't take a whole lot of what I would think of as

>work. Just a lot of silly

>list making which focuses on all the shit which it isn't that healthy to

>focus on.

>

>The 9th step (making amends to people you screwed as long as it won't screw

>them up) is

>the only one of the steps that actually seems to involve any legitimate

>work effort. The rest of

>it seems to be a big mess of humbling yourself.

>

>Maybe " working " the steps just implied the arduous mental process of

>beating this crap into

>your head by beating yourself down to its level? You succeed when you have

>finally

>accomplished the fine art of hating yourself so much that you think

>anything good in your life

>is absolutely nothing more (or less) than a precious gift from the Big Guy

>Upstairs that dared

>to save a wretch like you.

>

>Or is there more to it than this? I rather doubt not.

>

>-dmt

>

>

>demitria monde thraam

>transmits at:

>http://thraam.com

>

>

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Sounds like " Amway " .

Re: " Working " the program

> In a message dated 11/18/99 5:10:15 AM Central Standard Time,

> appledtp@... writes:

>

> > No one knows what it means to " work the program " . There's no consistent

> > answer. Here's my spin... the rewards of working the program are flat

> > emotional affect, and the gift of pious arrogance which allows one to

> > look down upon anyone who has strong emotions -- these would be

> > anything other than gratitude & serenity.

>

> Hi Apple, The paradox here is that while no one knows what it means to

> " work the program " steppers sure are quick to accuse someone of " NOT

working

> the program " .

> To me it has always seemed like the blueprint for a multi-level

marketing

> or pyramid scheme. Convince someone you have a sure way for them to

succeed

> in something or make money,etc. Tell them what to do. If they fail you

simply

> explain to them that they're " not working the program " .

> Artie

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Looking for the latest consumer electronic gadgets or computer

> equipment? eBay has thousands of audio equipment, computer

> games & accessories. You never know what you might find at eBay!

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Probably my entire tinned goods life was morally out

> of kilter and far from what God wanted for me. I think I need to pray about

> it now...

>

> JB

Spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, lovely spam, wonderful

spam, spam, spam....

Oh ye of little faith. Surrender thyself, bow down, and worship this

most hallowed of mysterious tinned meat products!

BUT I DON'T LIKE SPAM!!!!

JOHN

PS The more I investigate, the more I believe that religions totally suck.

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Yuk yuk yuk

You DID make that up I hope...

apple

> I cannot let this get by without input...

>

> FA-Flatulence Anonymous

>

> " LET GO AND LET GOD "

> " THIS TOO SHALL PASS "

>

>

> We admitted we were powerless over our farts...!!!

>

>

>

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Jon

thanks for reply

how do I not get direct email and just look at the web site and change my

surname please.

Also are you inrecovery, like do you drink at all? or do you have a nother

pasttime?

I feel abit lost as all my friends arepiss heads, and Im not even goin out

much anymore

Can you actually go toa pub and enjoy yourself without alcohol if so let

;me know the secret. Im starting to feel like a bloody hermit. All I seem

to do is a couple of AA meeting week. They say I should do more but Im wary

of being forced to do something I dont wish to.. If I write to you does

this show up on the board

Annie

Re: working the program

>Hey all. Been busy, but had to respond to " working the program " . Life

>has it's share of ups and downs, don't ya know. When I was active in

>AA,life's little and not so little ment one of two things; A) I was

>working the program. Or B) I was'nt working the program. Got sick and

>tired of being told how sick and tired,(tired cause I was'nt able to

>sleep due to 6 cups of coffee at 8 PM??maybe). After 2 years, had to

>get away...To weird, clubbies talking about " earth-people " and

>whatnot,(hello Jim ?). Guess what? Quit my job after getting

>out,(against the " suggestion " of my sponser, he liked to " suggest "

>quite a few major decisions in my life, and like a good clubbie, I

>would comply, cause that ment I was " working the program " ). Anyway,

>started a business, small but doing great. I wish I had followed my

>dream instead of my " suggestion " 2and 1/2 years ago. Oh well, was busy

>being a drone " working " the program. Did not want to die, at least

>that's what I was told, and it had to be true cause everybody nodded

>there heads yes. That's all. Hope everybody doing well.

>Apple, congrats on progressing with your site. It opened my eyes.

>Wonder if the bee keeper ever found his bee?

>Ann, I do pop in on a meeting abt. once a month, but only because there

>are one or two there that I truely enjoy as friends. And the not

>drinking thing is but one of many different similarities that makes me

>want to socialize, but my whole way of mental processing what I here

>during the meeting has sure changed. Seems like I'm not a drone

>anymore, but as I look around, I don't have much company. Do what you

>think works for you. These are some good people here.

>Oh yeah, remember life? Well it still has it's up's and downs...but at

>least I'm enjoying the ride. Sorry for the long wind. PEACE

>ALL....Jon

>

>

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Anne- From what I can gather, it sounds like you need something 'concrete'

to help you heal. There are lots of other support groups like " Rational

Recovery " ... " Women For Sobriety " ... " Moderation Management " . These are a few

non-12-step support groups.

If you can't find anything like this, keep talking to the list. I have

found it to be very therapeutic and feel like this list (12-step-free)

understands myself and my struggles more than anyone else.

We are all in the same " boat " . When you feel like sharing your issues, I

believe you will not be critized, but you will get a warm response from

people on the list.

I have been through LOTS of therapy, psych stuff, etc. I am on disability

because I have recurrant major depression. I LOVE this list! I have

discovered that I don't have to resort to a rigid, dogmatic, lifestyle like

AA wants you to do.

If you want to talk more, please feel free to e-mail me.

Take care -

~Trixxi

Re: working the program

>

>

> >Hey all. Been busy, but had to respond to " working the program " . Life

> >has it's share of ups and downs, don't ya know. When I was active in

> >AA,life's little and not so little ment one of two things; A) I was

> >working the program. Or B) I was'nt working the program. Got sick and

> >tired of being told how sick and tired,(tired cause I was'nt able to

> >sleep due to 6 cups of coffee at 8 PM??maybe). After 2 years, had to

> >get away...To weird, clubbies talking about " earth-people " and

> >whatnot,(hello Jim ?). Guess what? Quit my job after getting

> >out,(against the " suggestion " of my sponser, he liked to " suggest "

> >quite a few major decisions in my life, and like a good clubbie, I

> >would comply, cause that ment I was " working the program " ). Anyway,

> >started a business, small but doing great. I wish I had followed my

> >dream instead of my " suggestion " 2and 1/2 years ago. Oh well, was busy

> >being a drone " working " the program. Did not want to die, at least

> >that's what I was told, and it had to be true cause everybody nodded

> >there heads yes. That's all. Hope everybody doing well.

> >Apple, congrats on progressing with your site. It opened my eyes.

> >Wonder if the bee keeper ever found his bee?

> >Ann, I do pop in on a meeting abt. once a month, but only because there

> >are one or two there that I truely enjoy as friends. And the not

> >drinking thing is but one of many different similarities that makes me

> >want to socialize, but my whole way of mental processing what I here

> >during the meeting has sure changed. Seems like I'm not a drone

> >anymore, but as I look around, I don't have much company. Do what you

> >think works for you. These are some good people here.

> >Oh yeah, remember life? Well it still has it's up's and downs...but at

> >least I'm enjoying the ride. Sorry for the long wind. PEACE

> >ALL....Jon

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

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A LOOONG time ago, Apple!!! Nobody in AA thought it was funny...

" Admitted we were powerless over our farts and that the methane had

become unmanageable... "

I had a whole spiel about it...mostly forgotten...because at the time I

was living and breathing AA-and that kind of levity was not " acceptable "

My kids loved it!

Want to help resurrect the concept???

pple " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9528

> Yuk yuk yuk

>

> You DID make that up I hope...

> apple

>

> > I cannot let this get by without input...

> >

> > FA-Flatulence Anonymous

> >

> > " LET GO AND LET GOD "

> > " THIS TOO SHALL PASS "

> >

> >

> > We admitted we were powerless over our farts...!!!

> >

> >

> >

>

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Anne, the SOS list or the SMART list or the Art of Recovery list focus

more on drinking issues. You might want to join one of those too.

Apple

butterbean-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9538

> Anne- From what I can gather, it sounds like you need something

'concrete'

> to help you heal. There are lots of other support groups like

" Rational

> Recovery " ... " Women For Sobriety " ... " Moderation Management " . These

are a few

> non-12-step support groups.

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Anne, the SOS list or the SMART list or the Art of Recovery list focus

more on drinking issues. You might want to join one of those too.

Apple

butterbean-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9538

> Anne- From what I can gather, it sounds like you need something

'concrete'

> to help you heal. There are lots of other support groups like

" Rational

> Recovery " ... " Women For Sobriety " ... " Moderation Management " . These

are a few

> non-12-step support groups.

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Anne, the SOS list or the SMART list or the Art of Recovery list focus

more on drinking issues. You might want to join one of those too.

Apple

butterbean-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9538

> Anne- From what I can gather, it sounds like you need something

'concrete'

> to help you heal. There are lots of other support groups like

" Rational

> Recovery " ... " Women For Sobriety " ... " Moderation Management " . These

are a few

> non-12-step support groups.

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They don't think anything that tampers with the sacred tome is funny.

Too bad for them.

> A LOOONG time ago, Apple!!! Nobody in AA thought it was funny...

> " Admitted we were powerless over our farts and that the methane had

> become unmanageable... "

> I had a whole spiel about it...mostly forgotten...because at the time

I

> was living and breathing AA-and that kind of levity was not

" acceptable "

> My kids loved it!

> Want to help resurrect the concept???

As long as the meetings aren't held in my house, maybe...

Apple

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Understandable! heeeheehee

I used to go to meetings where they had Smokeeters...hmmm.....!

I have a few environmental engineer friends...in fact, one of them used

to joke about his Charcoal filter fart pants! I thought it was a

scream!

Help Help!! I'm farting 50 times a day and I can't breathe!!!

" apple " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9547

> They don't think anything that tampers with the sacred tome is funny.

> Too bad for them.

>

>

> > A LOOONG time ago, Apple!!! Nobody in AA thought it was funny...

> > " Admitted we were powerless over our farts and that the methane had

> > become unmanageable... "

> > I had a whole spiel about it...mostly forgotten...because at the

time

> I

> > was living and breathing AA-and that kind of levity was not

> " acceptable "

> > My kids loved it!

> > Want to help resurrect the concept???

>

> As long as the meetings aren't held in my house, maybe...

>

> Apple

>

>

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At 03:54 19/11/99 -0800, you wrote:

>A LOOONG time ago, Apple!!! Nobody in AA thought it was funny...

>

> " Admitted we were powerless over our farts and that the methane had

>become unmanageable... "

>

>I had a whole spiel about it...mostly forgotten...because at the time I

>was living and breathing AA-and that kind of levity was not " acceptable "

>

>My kids loved it!

>

>Want to help resurrect the concept???

>

>

Intestinal Gas Anonymous welcomes you.

We are a group of men and women who meet together in large rooms with open

windows. We have a common problem, and together we overcome it. Sort of,

anyway.

We were told we had to stop eating beans and spicy foods, and we felt we

could not. We were told we were not welcome in the office, and we resented

it. We were told we were aroma-challenged people and not good in society.

It was a bleak prospect for us. Many of use have been ostracized.

Together we found that we could overcome out common problem with the help

of a simple spiritual program.

<etc>

<No further mention of the problem, just spiritual stuff, like the others...>

Joe

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I think that is HYSTERICAL! What a great bumper sticker that would make!

Re: " Working " the program

> A LOOONG time ago, Apple!!! Nobody in AA thought it was funny...

>

> " Admitted we were powerless over our farts and that the methane had

> become unmanageable... "

>

> I had a whole spiel about it...mostly forgotten...because at the time I

> was living and breathing AA-and that kind of levity was not " acceptable "

>

> My kids loved it!

>

> Want to help resurrect the concept???

>

>

>

>

>

> pple " wrote:

> original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9528

> > Yuk yuk yuk

> >

> > You DID make that up I hope...

> > apple

> >

> > > I cannot let this get by without input...

> > >

> > > FA-Flatulence Anonymous

> > >

> > > " LET GO AND LET GOD "

> > > " THIS TOO SHALL PASS "

> > >

> > >

> > > We admitted we were powerless over our farts...!!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Looking for the latest consumer electronic gadgets or computer

> equipment? eBay has thousands of audio equipment, computer

> games & accessories. You never know what you might find at eBay!

> http://clickhere./click/1142

>

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hahahahahahahaha!!!!

We will not regret our flatulence, nor wish to close the door on them?

Step 2. Came to believe that Beano could restore us to

un-flatulence-ness...?

" joe b. " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9557

> At 03:54 19/11/99 -0800, you wrote:

> >A LOOONG time ago, Apple!!! Nobody in AA thought it was funny...

> >

> > " Admitted we were powerless over our farts and that the methane had

> >become unmanageable... "

> >

> >I had a whole spiel about it...mostly forgotten...because at the

time I

> >was living and breathing AA-and that kind of levity was not

" acceptable "

> >

> >My kids loved it!

> >

> >Want to help resurrect the concept???

> >

> >

>

> Intestinal Gas Anonymous welcomes you.

>

> We are a group of men and women who meet together in large rooms with

open

> windows. We have a common problem, and together we overcome it. Sort

of,

> anyway.

>

> We were told we had to stop eating beans and spicy foods, and we felt

we

> could not. We were told we were not welcome in the office, and we

resented

> it. We were told we were aroma-challenged people and not good in

society.

> It was a bleak prospect for us. Many of use have been ostracized.

>

> Together we found that we could overcome out common problem with the

help

> of a simple spiritual program.

>

> <etc>

>

> <No further mention of the problem, just spiritual stuff, like the

others...>

>

> Joe

>

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I have been laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes reading these posts!

It feels so good to laugh!!!

Please feel free to contribute, Trixxi!!

butterbean-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9558

> I think that is HYSTERICAL! What a great bumper sticker that would

make!

> Re: " Working " the program

>

>

> > A LOOONG time ago, Apple!!! Nobody in AA thought it was funny...

> >

> > " Admitted we were powerless over our farts and that the methane had

> > become unmanageable... "

> >

> > I had a whole spiel about it...mostly forgotten...because at the

time I

> > was living and breathing AA-and that kind of levity was not

" acceptable "

> >

> > My kids loved it!

> >

> > Want to help resurrect the concept???

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > pple " wrote:

> > original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=9

528

> > > Yuk yuk yuk

> > >

> > > You DID make that up I hope...

> > > apple

> > >

> > > > I cannot let this get by without input...

> > > >

> > > > FA-Flatulence Anonymous

> > > >

> > > > " LET GO AND LET GOD "

> > > > " THIS TOO SHALL PASS "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > We admitted we were powerless over our farts...!!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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