Re: New to group - 20 wk options?

[Guest guest]

,

your description seems to correlate with the fruit

description. SKY

--- Belzer wrote:

> I was told my 20 weeks uterus was the size of an

> adult

> human head. At 22 weeks they said it was the size

> of

> a volleyball.

> - B

>

> --- sky wrote:

> > ,

> > You asked how big a 20 week fibroid is.. It is in

> > between a melon and a pineapple, melon being a 16

> > week

> > and pineapple being a 22 week.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

,

your description seems to correlate with the fruit

description. SKY

--- Belzer wrote:

> I was told my 20 weeks uterus was the size of an

> adult

> human head. At 22 weeks they said it was the size

> of

> a volleyball.

> - B

>

> --- sky wrote:

> > ,

> > You asked how big a 20 week fibroid is.. It is in

> > between a melon and a pineapple, melon being a 16

> > week

> > and pineapple being a 22 week.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info!

Re: Re: New to group - 20

> wk options?

>

>

> I was told my 20 weeks uterus was the size of an

> adult

> human head. At 22 weeks they said it was the size

> of

> a volleyball.

> - B

>

> --- sky wrote:

> > ,

> > You asked how big a 20 week fibroid is.. It is in

> > between a melon and a pineapple, melon being a 16

> > week

> > and pineapple being a 22 week. My fibroid is 4.4

> cm

> > and has been described as being between a plum and

> a

> > lemon. Some fibroids grow as big as watermelons

> > which

> > is the size of the uterus when giving birth. Hope

> > this

> > helps. No, having children is not the only reason

> > to

> > keep the uterus. The uterus along with the ovaries

> > offer many great benefits to the female body. The

> > latest that I've read is that removing the uterus

> > takes away the protective agents that the uterus

> > offers in proctecting females from heart disease.

> I

> > will find the article and give more info on this.

> > Good luck in making your decision. You have

> options.

> > Thanks, SKY

> > --- Bonfietti wrote:

> > > Hello group,

> > >

> > > I am also new to the group and very new to this

> > > subject as I just found out last week about my

> > > fibroid.

> > >

> > > How big is a 20 week fibroid?? Mine is the size

> > of

> > > a lemon.

> > >

> > > I have many questions, but will start out with

> my

> > > BIGGEST question:

> > >

> > > Is the only reason to keep your uterus to have

> > > children??? I do not want to have a surgery and

> > > then in a few years have more fibroids grow, or

> > find

> > > that I am still having pain. I am feeling that

> if

> > a

> > > hysterecomy gets rid of the problem once and for

> > > all...why not?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help..GINA

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: New to group - 20

> > wk

> > > options?

> > >

> > >

> > > Barb,

> > >

> > > I had UAE for a subserosal fibroid approximately

> > the

> > > size you are

> > > describing. I was given the choice of

> > hysterectomy,

> > > myomectomy, or

> > > UAE by the well qualified doctors I used. In

> the

> > > end I chose UAE

> > > because it had the lowest risks and the lowest

> > > chance of losing my

> > > uterus.

> > >

> > > It is my understanding that " size doesn't

> matter "

> > > for the procedure

> > > but size may be an indicator for probable

> results.

> >

> > > The IR who

> > > performed my UAE said, " a fibroid this size may

> be

> > > best treated by

> > > hysterectomy, " and actually he added, " if it was

> > me

> > > I would have a

> > > hysterectomy. " He also told me that it would be

> > > anticipated that the

> > > fibroid could shrink up to 50%, thus, starting

> > with

> > > a huge fibroid I

> > > would still have a big bulk left. He had no

> > > hesitation with UAE if

> > > that was my choice.

> > >

> > > At one year (May 8) I have had no side affects

> or

> > > problems from the

> > > procedure, it is my belief that large fibroids

> > alone

> > > are not more

> > > problematic. My fibroid has shrunk

> considerable,

> > > possibly the 50%, I

> > > quit keeping track. However, I still have more

> > bulk

> > > than is

> > > comfortable for me, I would guess that for some

> > > women my improvement

> > > would be enough, many symptoms are gone- I want

> > > perfection. Life is

> > > much better at present, my fibroids were

> > intolerable

> > > a year ago. I

> > > will see how the next months go and consider

> > > myomectomy if necessary,

> > > still hanging on to the uterus. The gyn I used

> > > initially discussed

> > > following up with myomectomy if I didn't get

> > > resolution with the UAE.

> > >

> > > I did not achieve resolution to my fibroids with

> > > diet and

> > > supplements, however, I do get many positive

> > > benefits from

> > > accupressure and herbs, I love the herbs I take

> > and

> > > think they are

> > > the best for fibroids. The accrpressure and

> herbs

> > > continue to help a

> > > lot, especially with inflamation type bloating

> > > feeling.

> > >

> > > Good Luck-

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > My fibroids are 20-week size, putting pressure

> > on

> > > my bladder and

> > > more

>

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__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info!

Re: Re: New to group - 20

> wk options?

>

>

> I was told my 20 weeks uterus was the size of an

> adult

> human head. At 22 weeks they said it was the size

> of

> a volleyball.

> - B

>

> --- sky wrote:

> > ,

> > You asked how big a 20 week fibroid is.. It is in

> > between a melon and a pineapple, melon being a 16

> > week

> > and pineapple being a 22 week. My fibroid is 4.4

> cm

> > and has been described as being between a plum and

> a

> > lemon. Some fibroids grow as big as watermelons

> > which

> > is the size of the uterus when giving birth. Hope

> > this

> > helps. No, having children is not the only reason

> > to

> > keep the uterus. The uterus along with the ovaries

> > offer many great benefits to the female body. The

> > latest that I've read is that removing the uterus

> > takes away the protective agents that the uterus

> > offers in proctecting females from heart disease.

> I

> > will find the article and give more info on this.

> > Good luck in making your decision. You have

> options.

> > Thanks, SKY

> > --- Bonfietti wrote:

> > > Hello group,

> > >

> > > I am also new to the group and very new to this

> > > subject as I just found out last week about my

> > > fibroid.

> > >

> > > How big is a 20 week fibroid?? Mine is the size

> > of

> > > a lemon.

> > >

> > > I have many questions, but will start out with

> my

> > > BIGGEST question:

> > >

> > > Is the only reason to keep your uterus to have

> > > children??? I do not want to have a surgery and

> > > then in a few years have more fibroids grow, or

> > find

> > > that I am still having pain. I am feeling that

> if

> > a

> > > hysterecomy gets rid of the problem once and for

> > > all...why not?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help..GINA

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: New to group - 20

> > wk

> > > options?

> > >

> > >

> > > Barb,

> > >

> > > I had UAE for a subserosal fibroid approximately

> > the

> > > size you are

> > > describing. I was given the choice of

> > hysterectomy,

> > > myomectomy, or

> > > UAE by the well qualified doctors I used. In

> the

> > > end I chose UAE

> > > because it had the lowest risks and the lowest

> > > chance of losing my

> > > uterus.

> > >

> > > It is my understanding that " size doesn't

> matter "

> > > for the procedure

> > > but size may be an indicator for probable

> results.

> >

> > > The IR who

> > > performed my UAE said, " a fibroid this size may

> be

> > > best treated by

> > > hysterectomy, " and actually he added, " if it was

> > me

> > > I would have a

> > > hysterectomy. " He also told me that it would be

> > > anticipated that the

> > > fibroid could shrink up to 50%, thus, starting

> > with

> > > a huge fibroid I

> > > would still have a big bulk left. He had no

> > > hesitation with UAE if

> > > that was my choice.

> > >

> > > At one year (May 8) I have had no side affects

> or

> > > problems from the

> > > procedure, it is my belief that large fibroids

> > alone

> > > are not more

> > > problematic. My fibroid has shrunk

> considerable,

> > > possibly the 50%, I

> > > quit keeping track. However, I still have more

> > bulk

> > > than is

> > > comfortable for me, I would guess that for some

> > > women my improvement

> > > would be enough, many symptoms are gone- I want

> > > perfection. Life is

> > > much better at present, my fibroids were

> > intolerable

> > > a year ago. I

> > > will see how the next months go and consider

> > > myomectomy if necessary,

> > > still hanging on to the uterus. The gyn I used

> > > initially discussed

> > > following up with myomectomy if I didn't get

> > > resolution with the UAE.

> > >

> > > I did not achieve resolution to my fibroids with

> > > diet and

> > > supplements, however, I do get many positive

> > > benefits from

> > > accupressure and herbs, I love the herbs I take

> > and

> > > think they are

> > > the best for fibroids. The accrpressure and

> herbs

> > > continue to help a

> > > lot, especially with inflamation type bloating

> > > feeling.

> > >

> > > Good Luck-

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > My fibroids are 20-week size, putting pressure

> > on

> > > my bladder and

> > > more

>

=== message truncated ===

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

thanks for the info!

Re: Re: New to group - 20

> wk options?

>

>

> I was told my 20 weeks uterus was the size of an

> adult

> human head. At 22 weeks they said it was the size

> of

> a volleyball.

> - B

>

> --- sky wrote:

> > ,

> > You asked how big a 20 week fibroid is.. It is in

> > between a melon and a pineapple, melon being a 16

> > week

> > and pineapple being a 22 week. My fibroid is 4.4

> cm

> > and has been described as being between a plum and

> a

> > lemon. Some fibroids grow as big as watermelons

> > which

> > is the size of the uterus when giving birth. Hope

> > this

> > helps. No, having children is not the only reason

> > to

> > keep the uterus. The uterus along with the ovaries

> > offer many great benefits to the female body. The

> > latest that I've read is that removing the uterus

> > takes away the protective agents that the uterus

> > offers in proctecting females from heart disease.

> I

> > will find the article and give more info on this.

> > Good luck in making your decision. You have

> options.

> > Thanks, SKY

> > --- Bonfietti wrote:

> > > Hello group,

> > >

> > > I am also new to the group and very new to this

> > > subject as I just found out last week about my

> > > fibroid.

> > >

> > > How big is a 20 week fibroid?? Mine is the size

> > of

> > > a lemon.

> > >

> > > I have many questions, but will start out with

> my

> > > BIGGEST question:

> > >

> > > Is the only reason to keep your uterus to have

> > > children??? I do not want to have a surgery and

> > > then in a few years have more fibroids grow, or

> > find

> > > that I am still having pain. I am feeling that

> if

> > a

> > > hysterecomy gets rid of the problem once and for

> > > all...why not?

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help..GINA

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: New to group - 20

> > wk

> > > options?

> > >

> > >

> > > Barb,

> > >

> > > I had UAE for a subserosal fibroid approximately

> > the

> > > size you are

> > > describing. I was given the choice of

> > hysterectomy,

> > > myomectomy, or

> > > UAE by the well qualified doctors I used. In

> the

> > > end I chose UAE

> > > because it had the lowest risks and the lowest

> > > chance of losing my

> > > uterus.

> > >

> > > It is my understanding that " size doesn't

> matter "

> > > for the procedure

> > > but size may be an indicator for probable

> results.

> >

> > > The IR who

> > > performed my UAE said, " a fibroid this size may

> be

> > > best treated by

> > > hysterectomy, " and actually he added, " if it was

> > me

> > > I would have a

> > > hysterectomy. " He also told me that it would be

> > > anticipated that the

> > > fibroid could shrink up to 50%, thus, starting

> > with

> > > a huge fibroid I

> > > would still have a big bulk left. He had no

> > > hesitation with UAE if

> > > that was my choice.

> > >

> > > At one year (May 8) I have had no side affects

> or

> > > problems from the

> > > procedure, it is my belief that large fibroids

> > alone

> > > are not more

> > > problematic. My fibroid has shrunk

> considerable,

> > > possibly the 50%, I

> > > quit keeping track. However, I still have more

> > bulk

> > > than is

> > > comfortable for me, I would guess that for some

> > > women my improvement

> > > would be enough, many symptoms are gone- I want

> > > perfection. Life is

> > > much better at present, my fibroids were

> > intolerable

> > > a year ago. I

> > > will see how the next months go and consider

> > > myomectomy if necessary,

> > > still hanging on to the uterus. The gyn I used

> > > initially discussed

> > > following up with myomectomy if I didn't get

> > > resolution with the UAE.

> > >

> > > I did not achieve resolution to my fibroids with

> > > diet and

> > > supplements, however, I do get many positive

> > > benefits from

> > > accupressure and herbs, I love the herbs I take

> > and

> > > think they are

> > > the best for fibroids. The accrpressure and

> herbs

> > > continue to help a

> > > lot, especially with inflamation type bloating

> > > feeling.

> > >

> > > Good Luck-

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > My fibroids are 20-week size, putting pressure

> > on

> > > my bladder and

> > > more

>

=== message truncated ===

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dr. Forcade had a chart that made the most sense to me

comparing fibroid size and uterine size. Marsha posted it some time

ago but the link had moved so it took a bit of searching for me to

find it - the new link is here: www.fibroiduae.com/fibro5.htm, about

halfway down the page (it's a long page). But here it is breifly:

Uterus Size

(1) 12 weeks - just up to the level of the pubic bone

(2) 16 weeks - 4 fingerbreadths above the pubic bone

(3) 18 weeks - 2 fingerbreadths below the navel

(4) 20 weeks - at the navel

(5) 24 weeks - 1 fingerbreadth above the navel

(6) 28 weeks - 3 fingerbreadths above the navel

Fibroid Size

1cm - pea size, 3cm - walnut, 5.5cm - lemon, 7.5cm - apple, 9cm -

orange, 11.5 - grapefruit

Of course, women with fibroids usually have more than one so you may

have an apple, an orange, a few walnuts, etc. adding up to 20 weeks.

DeAnn

[Guest guest]

Dr. Forcade had a chart that made the most sense to me

comparing fibroid size and uterine size. Marsha posted it some time

ago but the link had moved so it took a bit of searching for me to

find it - the new link is here: www.fibroiduae.com/fibro5.htm, about

halfway down the page (it's a long page). But here it is breifly:

Uterus Size

(1) 12 weeks - just up to the level of the pubic bone

(2) 16 weeks - 4 fingerbreadths above the pubic bone

(3) 18 weeks - 2 fingerbreadths below the navel

(4) 20 weeks - at the navel

(5) 24 weeks - 1 fingerbreadth above the navel

(6) 28 weeks - 3 fingerbreadths above the navel

Fibroid Size

1cm - pea size, 3cm - walnut, 5.5cm - lemon, 7.5cm - apple, 9cm -

orange, 11.5 - grapefruit

Of course, women with fibroids usually have more than one so you may

have an apple, an orange, a few walnuts, etc. adding up to 20 weeks.

DeAnn

[Guest guest]

Cancer is always such a scary word that it ends up being a somewhat

unwarranted concern with fibroids - whether or not they may acually

be uterine sarcomas. But bear in mind that the odds are extremely

small. Even if you have growing fibroids, you still have greater

odds of having breast cancer in your lifetime than uterine sarcoma.

There are 900 or so in this group and even if every one of us has

uterine tumors (and I think there are some here that are health care

professionals and not fibroid sufferers), less than two will be

cancers based on the odds.

Biopsies can give you a good indication but aren't 100% because it's

possible to have a tumor that is part fibroid and part cancerous.

The only 100% way to tell is to have it taken out and look at the

whole thing.

If it helps any, some of the other indications of your odds are, if

you are bleeding post menopause your odds are a little greater (but

benign fibroids can cause bleeding post menopause too), and single

large fibroids are a little more likely than multiple fibroids.

So if you are pre-menopause and have multiple fibroids your odds are

even smaller than what are normally very small odds.

DeAnn

[Guest guest]

Cancer is always such a scary word that it ends up being a somewhat

unwarranted concern with fibroids - whether or not they may acually

be uterine sarcomas. But bear in mind that the odds are extremely

small. Even if you have growing fibroids, you still have greater

odds of having breast cancer in your lifetime than uterine sarcoma.

There are 900 or so in this group and even if every one of us has

uterine tumors (and I think there are some here that are health care

professionals and not fibroid sufferers), less than two will be

cancers based on the odds.

Biopsies can give you a good indication but aren't 100% because it's

possible to have a tumor that is part fibroid and part cancerous.

The only 100% way to tell is to have it taken out and look at the

whole thing.

If it helps any, some of the other indications of your odds are, if

you are bleeding post menopause your odds are a little greater (but

benign fibroids can cause bleeding post menopause too), and single

large fibroids are a little more likely than multiple fibroids.

So if you are pre-menopause and have multiple fibroids your odds are

even smaller than what are normally very small odds.

DeAnn

[Guest guest]

Cancer is always such a scary word that it ends up being a somewhat

unwarranted concern with fibroids - whether or not they may acually

be uterine sarcomas. But bear in mind that the odds are extremely

small. Even if you have growing fibroids, you still have greater

odds of having breast cancer in your lifetime than uterine sarcoma.

There are 900 or so in this group and even if every one of us has

uterine tumors (and I think there are some here that are health care

professionals and not fibroid sufferers), less than two will be

cancers based on the odds.

Biopsies can give you a good indication but aren't 100% because it's

possible to have a tumor that is part fibroid and part cancerous.

The only 100% way to tell is to have it taken out and look at the

whole thing.

If it helps any, some of the other indications of your odds are, if

you are bleeding post menopause your odds are a little greater (but

benign fibroids can cause bleeding post menopause too), and single

large fibroids are a little more likely than multiple fibroids.

So if you are pre-menopause and have multiple fibroids your odds are

even smaller than what are normally very small odds.

DeAnn

[Guest guest]

I believe that in the US and Canada they test for malignancy at time of

myomectomy by taking what is called a " frozen section " .I have heard that results

of frozen sections are not always reliable.

Bonnie

cailleach wrote:

> The tests described below by Therese and Sky are for endometrial cancer of the

uterus. Women with heavy bleeding should be tested for this cancer as a

precaution.

>

> But there isn't a reliable test for the less common cancer of the uterus:

uterine sarcoma, malignant tumours which resemble fibroids. This is the cancer

our doctors warn us about when fibroids are large and fast-growing. This is the

type of cancer DeAnn writes of in her message (#8122, today). Fortunately it is

very uncommon. Even rapidly growing uterine tumours are usually benign

fibroids. If you search the archives, you can find a message from Dr

about a study he did of over a 1000 women who had fibroids removed and only one

was found to be malignant. That's not one woman out of 1000 with fibroids, but

one out of a 1,000+ who had surgery rather than other treatment or no treatment.

But yes, lots of doctors and some women with fibroids would rather have

hysterectomy than take the chance that they do have this rare cancer.

>

> If you have a myomectomy, the removed fibroids are sent to the pathology

laboratory for inspection. If signs of malignancy are found, you'll be asked

back for further surgery. (that's what's done where I live, anyway). I asked Dr

Kirsh, an eminent Interventional Radiologist, about the effect of UAE on

sarcomas. He replied that at least one woman out of the several thousand who

have undergone Uterine Artery Embolization was later found to have a malignancy.

But if a tumour happened to be malignant, but hadn't spread, and it infarcted

from the UAE, the woman would never know she'd had a cancer. According to him,

UAE wouldn't cause sarcoma to spread. But any uterine tumour which didn't

infarct would need to be investigated. If you want to look up the precise

message, you would have to search the archives of the Yahoo " embo " discussion

group.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:30:07 -0400

> From:Therese Barraco

>

> Also, an endometrial biopsy can be done to rule out cancer. It is done in

> the doctor's office, and takes only a few minutes.

>

> From: sky

> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:12 AM

>

> Hello,

> My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he could send a small piece

(from the uterus, just as small as the shedding of your lining during your

m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a cancer cells in my uterus. My

Doc. perfromed this

> first to rule out cancer and to determine what types of fibroids I had, then

he made his suggestion after ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

have other options! Good Luck, SKY

>

> --- Donna Friesen wrote:

>

> > I am new to the group also and just found out last week that my fibroid had

enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter.

>

> The gynecologist is recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and would

like to keep my body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear is it being

cancerous.

> > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on fibroids before

hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

>

> > Donna

>

>

[Guest guest]

The tests described below by Therese and Sky are for endometrial cancer of the

uterus. Women with heavy bleeding should be tested for this cancer as a

precaution.

But there isn't a reliable test for the less common cancer of the uterus:

uterine sarcoma, malignant tumours which resemble fibroids. This is the cancer

our doctors warn us about when fibroids are large and fast-growing. This is the

type of cancer DeAnn writes of in her message (#8122, today). Fortunately it is

very uncommon. Even rapidly growing uterine tumours are usually benign

fibroids. If you search the archives, you can find a message from Dr

about a study he did of over a 1000 women who had fibroids removed and only one

was found to be malignant. That's not one woman out of 1000 with fibroids, but

one out of a 1,000+ who had surgery rather than other treatment or no treatment.

But yes, lots of doctors and some women with fibroids would rather have

hysterectomy than take the chance that they do have this rare cancer.

If you have a myomectomy, the removed fibroids are sent to the pathology

laboratory for inspection. If signs of malignancy are found, you'll be asked

back for further surgery. (that's what's done where I live, anyway). I asked Dr

Kirsh, an eminent Interventional Radiologist, about the effect of UAE on

sarcomas. He replied that at least one woman out of the several thousand who

have undergone Uterine Artery Embolization was later found to have a malignancy.

But if a tumour happened to be malignant, but hadn't spread, and it infarcted

from the UAE, the woman would never know she'd had a cancer. According to him,

UAE wouldn't cause sarcoma to spread. But any uterine tumour which didn't

infarct would need to be investigated. If you want to look up the precise

message, you would have to search the archives of the Yahoo " embo " discussion

group.

-----Original Message-----

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:30:07 -0400

From:Therese Barraco

Also, an endometrial biopsy can be done to rule out cancer. It is done in

the doctor's office, and takes only a few minutes.

From: sky

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:12 AM

Hello,

My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he could send a small piece

(from the uterus, just as small as the shedding of your lining during your

m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a cancer cells in my uterus. My

Doc. perfromed this

first to rule out cancer and to determine what types of fibroids I had, then he

made his suggestion after ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

have other options! Good Luck, SKY

--- Donna Friesen wrote:

> I am new to the group also and just found out last week that my fibroid had

enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter.

The gynecologist is recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and would

like to keep my body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear is it being

cancerous.

> Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on fibroids before

hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> Donna

[Guest guest]

The tests described below by Therese and Sky are for endometrial cancer of the

uterus. Women with heavy bleeding should be tested for this cancer as a

precaution.

But there isn't a reliable test for the less common cancer of the uterus:

uterine sarcoma, malignant tumours which resemble fibroids. This is the cancer

our doctors warn us about when fibroids are large and fast-growing. This is the

type of cancer DeAnn writes of in her message (#8122, today). Fortunately it is

very uncommon. Even rapidly growing uterine tumours are usually benign

fibroids. If you search the archives, you can find a message from Dr

about a study he did of over a 1000 women who had fibroids removed and only one

was found to be malignant. That's not one woman out of 1000 with fibroids, but

one out of a 1,000+ who had surgery rather than other treatment or no treatment.

But yes, lots of doctors and some women with fibroids would rather have

hysterectomy than take the chance that they do have this rare cancer.

If you have a myomectomy, the removed fibroids are sent to the pathology

laboratory for inspection. If signs of malignancy are found, you'll be asked

back for further surgery. (that's what's done where I live, anyway). I asked Dr

Kirsh, an eminent Interventional Radiologist, about the effect of UAE on

sarcomas. He replied that at least one woman out of the several thousand who

have undergone Uterine Artery Embolization was later found to have a malignancy.

But if a tumour happened to be malignant, but hadn't spread, and it infarcted

from the UAE, the woman would never know she'd had a cancer. According to him,

UAE wouldn't cause sarcoma to spread. But any uterine tumour which didn't

infarct would need to be investigated. If you want to look up the precise

message, you would have to search the archives of the Yahoo " embo " discussion

group.

-----Original Message-----

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:30:07 -0400

From:Therese Barraco

Also, an endometrial biopsy can be done to rule out cancer. It is done in

the doctor's office, and takes only a few minutes.

From: sky

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:12 AM

Hello,

My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he could send a small piece

(from the uterus, just as small as the shedding of your lining during your

m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a cancer cells in my uterus. My

Doc. perfromed this

first to rule out cancer and to determine what types of fibroids I had, then he

made his suggestion after ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

have other options! Good Luck, SKY

--- Donna Friesen wrote:

> I am new to the group also and just found out last week that my fibroid had

enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter.

The gynecologist is recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and would

like to keep my body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear is it being

cancerous.

> Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on fibroids before

hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> Donna

[Guest guest]

I think it is important to mention that these sizes

are for when lying down. When sitting up, my fibroids

come about 8 inches or a whole palm ABOVE my navel.

When lying down, then come just 1 finger above it.

- B

--- deann.thomson@... wrote:

> Dr. Forcade had a chart that made the most

> sense to me

> comparing fibroid size and uterine size. Marsha

> posted it some time

> ago but the link had moved so it took a bit of

> searching for me to

> find it - the new link is here:

> www.fibroiduae.com/fibro5.htm, about

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I was told by my second gynocologist that an endometial biopsy could not

test for cancer if the fibroid was subserosal. Because an endometrial

biopsy would not get access to the subserosal fibroid.

You may want to find out what kind of fibroid you have first, then find out

if an endometrial biopsy is relevant for that type of fibroid. I'm now

convinced the first gyn that insisted on performing the biopsy was just

interested me funding her practice. Another reason I'm convinced of this is

because this same gyn insisted fibroids were 15% of the time cancerous, she

continued to tell me the books I had read claiming less than 5% cases

cancerous were wrong. In summary, she managed to scare me into the

endometrial biopsy.

RE: Re: New to group - 20 wk options?

>

>

> Hello,

> My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he

> could send a small piece (from the uterus, just as

> small as the shedding of your lining during your

> m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a

> cancer cells in my uterus. My Doc. perfromed this

> first to rule out cancer and to determine what types

> of fibroids I had, then he made his suggestion after

> ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

> have other options! Good Luck, SKY

> --- Donna Friesen wrote:

> > Hi everyone:

> >

> > I am new to the group also and just found out last

> > week that my fibroid had

> > enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter. The

> > gynecologist is

> > recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and

> > would like to keep my

> > body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear

> > is it being cancerous.

> > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on

> > fibroids before

> > hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the input!

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >>

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I was told by my second gynocologist that an endometial biopsy could not

test for cancer if the fibroid was subserosal. Because an endometrial

biopsy would not get access to the subserosal fibroid.

You may want to find out what kind of fibroid you have first, then find out

if an endometrial biopsy is relevant for that type of fibroid. I'm now

convinced the first gyn that insisted on performing the biopsy was just

interested me funding her practice. Another reason I'm convinced of this is

because this same gyn insisted fibroids were 15% of the time cancerous, she

continued to tell me the books I had read claiming less than 5% cases

cancerous were wrong. In summary, she managed to scare me into the

endometrial biopsy.

RE: Re: New to group - 20 wk options?

>

>

> Hello,

> My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he

> could send a small piece (from the uterus, just as

> small as the shedding of your lining during your

> m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a

> cancer cells in my uterus. My Doc. perfromed this

> first to rule out cancer and to determine what types

> of fibroids I had, then he made his suggestion after

> ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

> have other options! Good Luck, SKY

> --- Donna Friesen wrote:

> > Hi everyone:

> >

> > I am new to the group also and just found out last

> > week that my fibroid had

> > enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter. The

> > gynecologist is

> > recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and

> > would like to keep my

> > body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear

> > is it being cancerous.

> > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on

> > fibroids before

> > hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the input!

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >>

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I was told by my second gynocologist that an endometial biopsy could not

test for cancer if the fibroid was subserosal. Because an endometrial

biopsy would not get access to the subserosal fibroid.

You may want to find out what kind of fibroid you have first, then find out

if an endometrial biopsy is relevant for that type of fibroid. I'm now

convinced the first gyn that insisted on performing the biopsy was just

interested me funding her practice. Another reason I'm convinced of this is

because this same gyn insisted fibroids were 15% of the time cancerous, she

continued to tell me the books I had read claiming less than 5% cases

cancerous were wrong. In summary, she managed to scare me into the

endometrial biopsy.

RE: Re: New to group - 20 wk options?

>

>

> Hello,

> My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he

> could send a small piece (from the uterus, just as

> small as the shedding of your lining during your

> m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a

> cancer cells in my uterus. My Doc. perfromed this

> first to rule out cancer and to determine what types

> of fibroids I had, then he made his suggestion after

> ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

> have other options! Good Luck, SKY

> --- Donna Friesen wrote:

> > Hi everyone:

> >

> > I am new to the group also and just found out last

> > week that my fibroid had

> > enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter. The

> > gynecologist is

> > recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and

> > would like to keep my

> > body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear

> > is it being cancerous.

> > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on

> > fibroids before

> > hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the input!

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >>

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I'm having an endomitrial biopsy on May 15th. My doctor has

recommended taking three Advil before coming for the procedure. I had

one of these 10 years ago and remember it being a very uncomfortable

procedure. The doctor from 10 years ago did not recommend that I take

anything before the procedure though he did warn me there would be

some cramping. My current doctor took over when my old doctor (the

one who did my myomectomy 10 years ago) retired. I liked him but I

really, really like her.

Jan

RE: Re: New to group - 20 wk options?

>

>

> Hello,

> My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he

> could send a small piece (from the uterus, just as

> small as the shedding of your lining during your

> m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a

> cancer cells in my uterus. My Doc. perfromed this

> first to rule out cancer and to determine what types

> of fibroids I had, then he made his suggestion after

> ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

> have other options! Good Luck, SKY

> --- Donna Friesen wrote:

> > Hi everyone:

> >

> > I am new to the group also and just found out last

> > week that my fibroid had

> > enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter. The

> > gynecologist is

> > recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and

> > would like to keep my

> > body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear

> > is it being cancerous.

> > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on

> > fibroids before

> > hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the input!

> >

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >>

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sky,

Did you have regional anesthesia such as an epidural or general for your

hysteroscopy. I would like to have a hysteroscopy with removal of a

submucus fibroid. I really don't want general anesthesia. I've had it

before and I always end up feeling so sick. I would rather not have all

those drugs in me.

Anita

RE: Re: New to group - 20 wk options?

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he

> > could send a small piece (from the uterus, just as

> > small as the shedding of your lining during your

> > m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a

> > cancer cells in my uterus. My Doc. perfromed this

> > first to rule out cancer and to determine what types

> > of fibroids I had, then he made his suggestion after

> > ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

> > have other options! Good Luck, SKY

> > --- Donna Friesen wrote:

> > > Hi everyone:

> > >

> > > I am new to the group also and just found out last

> > > week that my fibroid had

> > > enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter. The

> > > gynecologist is

> > > recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and

> > > would like to keep my

> > > body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear

> > > is it being cancerous.

> > > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on

> > > fibroids before

> > > hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks for the input!

> > >

> > > Donna

> > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sky,

Did you have regional anesthesia such as an epidural or general for your

hysteroscopy. I would like to have a hysteroscopy with removal of a

submucus fibroid. I really don't want general anesthesia. I've had it

before and I always end up feeling so sick. I would rather not have all

those drugs in me.

Anita

RE: Re: New to group - 20 wk options?

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> > My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so he

> > could send a small piece (from the uterus, just as

> > small as the shedding of your lining during your

> > m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had a

> > cancer cells in my uterus. My Doc. perfromed this

> > first to rule out cancer and to determine what types

> > of fibroids I had, then he made his suggestion after

> > ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You do

> > have other options! Good Luck, SKY

> > --- Donna Friesen wrote:

> > > Hi everyone:

> > >

> > > I am new to the group also and just found out last

> > > week that my fibroid had

> > > enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter. The

> > > gynecologist is

> > > recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44 and

> > > would like to keep my

> > > body parts at this stage in my life. My biggest fear

> > > is it being cancerous.

> > > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer on

> > > fibroids before

> > > hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks for the input!

> > >

> > > Donna

> > >

> > >

> > >>

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Anita,

My Dr. just used a local. Actually, the procedure

wasn't that bad, just had mild cramping during and a

little spotting after and fine the next day. He did

prescribe an antibiotic so that infection wouldn't

occur, anytime you enter the cervix or uterus there is

a possiblity of infection, I was prescribed

Docycycline (SP?). My hysteroscopy was a diagnostic to

see if the fibroids could be removed hysterscopically,

if my fibroids could have been removed then an

operative hysteroscopy would have been done. Good

luck! SKY

--- Ken Liggett wrote:

> Dear Sky,

> Did you have regional anesthesia such as an epidural

> or general for your

> hysteroscopy. I would like to have a hysteroscopy

> with removal of a

> submucus fibroid. I really don't want general

> anesthesia. I've had it

> before and I always end up feeling so sick. I would

> rather not have all

> those drugs in me.

> Anita

> RE: Re: New to group

> - 20 wk options?

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello,

> > > My Doctor perfromed a diagnostic hysteroscopy so

> he

> > > could send a small piece (from the uterus, just

> as

> > > small as the shedding of your lining during your

> > > m-cycle ) to a Pathologist to determine if I had

> a

> > > cancer cells in my uterus. My Doc. perfromed

> this

> > > first to rule out cancer and to determine what

> types

> > > of fibroids I had, then he made his suggestion

> after

> > > ruling out cancer which is not hysterectomy. You

> do

> > > have other options! Good Luck, SKY

> > > --- Donna Friesen wrote:

> > > > Hi everyone:

> > > >

> > > > I am new to the group also and just found out

> last

> > > > week that my fibroid had

> > > > enlarged in size and is now 9cm in diameter.

> The

> > > > gynecologist is

> > > > recommending hysterectomy, of course. I am 44

> and

> > > > would like to keep my

> > > > body parts at this stage in my life. My

> biggest fear

> > > > is it being cancerous.

> > > > Has anyone heard of a test to determine cancer

> on

> > > > fibroids before

> > > > hysterectomy recommended as the only solution?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the input!

> > > >

> > > > Donna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >>

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >