RE: HVAC results

August 15, 2004

, That is all true what you say about teens. I was a " good diabetic "

until I was about 10; at that time, I had to go live with an aunt as there

were family problems. My aunt, a very undisciplined person, let me eat

anything and I started out of control. When I went back to my mother a year

later, she got me mother good control again, but I never forgot how " good "

it was to me to eat anything I wanted. I ended up in the hospital a couple

of time s because of high blood sugars and ketoacidosis. when I left for

nursing school and lived in a dorm, I did not eat the way I should of at

all. I also learned about the " joys " of alcohol, so partied on weekends

with the frat guys and sororities. I was blind by the time I was 34-and was

really lucky to have gone that long with sight. I of course had

straightened out by that time, but it was too late. I know a lot of

teenagers who were hospitalized several times for ketoacidosis, so I feel

lucky it only happened to me twice. I used to go to the drug store and

drink cherry cokes with my friends-and it was not diet!

Re: HBA1C results

If only it was that easy!!!

You have to have a great kid who would follow what you tell them what to eat

and not too and to do all those blood test! They can also be very fussy

eaters or need plenty food for their developing bodies. In addition the

parent is the one who has to sometimes come to terms that their child has

diabetes as well.

I have heard many a story of a parent not watching what their child eats and

not truly understanding what diabetes is all about! In the long run it is

the child who suffers!!

I have a 12 year old niece who has type 1 diabetes and do you think it is

easy for my sister. Nope!!

Most night she is up doing test every 2 hours.

Either trying to stop a severe hypo from happening and suffering dehydration

from the levels going high!

One minute she is up around 306 and then several hours later she has

dropped down to 54!

Then when she goes on medication for her asthma she has high levels.

It is very hard to know how her body is going to react from hour to hour.

Now we are waiting to see if she also has celiacs!

for a child I think it would be a hard goal to achieve unless they are a

strict disciplinary but then again who knows when they will rebel from

frustration and undo all that good work!

Also there are those who are lucky enough to survive through the difficult

times and come out through the other end unscathed!

I think it is only when we people with diabetes have had a brush with

complications that we really sit up and see the light and tighten control!

I will admit that there are probably a group of us who accept their diabetes

from the word go and try every avenue to achieve optimum health.

from down under

Re: HBA1C results

> yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause permanent

> diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However, take a

12

> year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

less,

> get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

since

> he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications are

> reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book, see

> what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint. Some

> just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and just

take

> to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how just

> live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a long

> and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long Bernstein

has

> been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an a1c

of

> 4.5

>

> this stuff works folks!

>

> Regards,

>

August 16, 2004

ya Dave, we all been there in times past. I can recall drinking a large

cherry slushy and 3 candy bars with my young buddies at the local dairy mart

back in the day. I cringe thinking of that now.

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

ya Dave, we all been there in times past. I can recall drinking a large

cherry slushy and 3 candy bars with my young buddies at the local dairy mart

back in the day. I cringe thinking of that now.

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

ya Dave, we all been there in times past. I can recall drinking a large

cherry slushy and 3 candy bars with my young buddies at the local dairy mart

back in the day. I cringe thinking of that now.

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

you little devil and your butterfingers!

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take

> a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

> see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

> Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

> just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

> long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

> a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

you little devil and your butterfingers!

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take

> a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

> see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

> Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

> just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

> long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

> a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

you little devil and your butterfingers!

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take

> a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

> see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

> Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

> just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

> long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

> a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

No butterfingers then-just non-diet cherry Coke!

Re: HVAC results

you little devil and your butterfingers!

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take

> a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

> see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

> Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

> just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

> long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

> a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

No butterfingers then-just non-diet cherry Coke!

Re: HVAC results

you little devil and your butterfingers!

Regards,

Re: HBA1C results

>

> > yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> > myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> > diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take

> a

> 12

> > year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

> less,

> > get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

> since

> > he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> > reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

> see

> > what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

> Some

> > just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

> take

> > to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

> just

> > live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

> long

> > and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

> has

> > been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

> a1c

> of

> > 4.5

> >

> > this stuff works folks!

> >

> > Regards,

> >

>

August 16, 2004

Good for you for overcoming the eating disorder. I had a beautiful, tall

very thin client one time who modeled. She kept her diabetes under no

control at all in order to keep thin. Well, she went blind, was on kidney

dialysis and died of a stroke at age 45. It broke my heart as she was such

a lovely person.

Re: HVAC results

I was 18 when diagnosed and became totally blind by 33. Within 5 weeks of

diagnoses I was in denial and started on a roller-coaster ride with my

diabetes that last 10 years! I also had a eating disorder, sort of bulimia

and I was using my diabetes to control my weight! You could stuff so much

of that bad food in your mouth and still manage to lose weight! I thought

that was great. But in the mean time I knew I was probably destroying my

kidneys and eye sight but just couldn't control myself!

My fear was going back to using insulin on a regular basis and gaining that

weight once again. In 1996 I finally overcame this eating problem and

learnt to enjoy the food I was eating, instead of gorging a whole packet of

chocolate biscuits in a few hours! Now I allow myself 1 biscuit every few

weeks and eat it very slowly and savour the taste and then walk it off!

I only ever suffered ketoacidosis once but for 5 to 6 years I was always on

the verge of another one but managed to keep it at bay.

from down under

RE: HVAC results

> , That is all true what you say about teens. I was a " good diabetic "

> until I was about 10; at that time, I had to go live with an aunt as there

> were family problems. My aunt, a very undisciplined person, let me eat

> anything and I started out of control. When I went back to my mother a

year

> later, she got me mother good control again, but I never forgot how " good "

> it was to me to eat anything I wanted. I ended up in the hospital a

couple

> of time s because of high blood sugars and ketoacidosis. when I left for

> nursing school and lived in a dorm, I did not eat the way I should of at

> all. I also learned about the " joys " of alcohol, so partied on weekends

> with the frat guys and sororities. I was blind by the time I was 34-and

was

> really lucky to have gone that long with sight. I of course had

> straightened out by that time, but it was too late. I know a lot of

> teenagers who were hospitalized several times for ketoacidosis, so I feel

> lucky it only happened to me twice. I used to go to the drug store and

> drink cherry cokes with my friends-and it was not diet!

August 16, 2004

Good for you for overcoming the eating disorder. I had a beautiful, tall

very thin client one time who modeled. She kept her diabetes under no

control at all in order to keep thin. Well, she went blind, was on kidney

dialysis and died of a stroke at age 45. It broke my heart as she was such

a lovely person.

Re: HVAC results

I was 18 when diagnosed and became totally blind by 33. Within 5 weeks of

diagnoses I was in denial and started on a roller-coaster ride with my

diabetes that last 10 years! I also had a eating disorder, sort of bulimia

and I was using my diabetes to control my weight! You could stuff so much

of that bad food in your mouth and still manage to lose weight! I thought

that was great. But in the mean time I knew I was probably destroying my

kidneys and eye sight but just couldn't control myself!

My fear was going back to using insulin on a regular basis and gaining that

weight once again. In 1996 I finally overcame this eating problem and

learnt to enjoy the food I was eating, instead of gorging a whole packet of

chocolate biscuits in a few hours! Now I allow myself 1 biscuit every few

weeks and eat it very slowly and savour the taste and then walk it off!

I only ever suffered ketoacidosis once but for 5 to 6 years I was always on

the verge of another one but managed to keep it at bay.

from down under

RE: HVAC results

> , That is all true what you say about teens. I was a " good diabetic "

> until I was about 10; at that time, I had to go live with an aunt as there

> were family problems. My aunt, a very undisciplined person, let me eat

> anything and I started out of control. When I went back to my mother a

year

> later, she got me mother good control again, but I never forgot how " good "

> it was to me to eat anything I wanted. I ended up in the hospital a

couple

> of time s because of high blood sugars and ketoacidosis. when I left for

> nursing school and lived in a dorm, I did not eat the way I should of at

> all. I also learned about the " joys " of alcohol, so partied on weekends

> with the frat guys and sororities. I was blind by the time I was 34-and

was

> really lucky to have gone that long with sight. I of course had

> straightened out by that time, but it was too late. I know a lot of

> teenagers who were hospitalized several times for ketoacidosis, so I feel

> lucky it only happened to me twice. I used to go to the drug store and

> drink cherry cokes with my friends-and it was not diet!

August 16, 2004

Good for you for overcoming the eating disorder. I had a beautiful, tall

very thin client one time who modeled. She kept her diabetes under no

control at all in order to keep thin. Well, she went blind, was on kidney

dialysis and died of a stroke at age 45. It broke my heart as she was such

a lovely person.

Re: HVAC results

I was 18 when diagnosed and became totally blind by 33. Within 5 weeks of

diagnoses I was in denial and started on a roller-coaster ride with my

diabetes that last 10 years! I also had a eating disorder, sort of bulimia

and I was using my diabetes to control my weight! You could stuff so much

of that bad food in your mouth and still manage to lose weight! I thought

that was great. But in the mean time I knew I was probably destroying my

kidneys and eye sight but just couldn't control myself!

My fear was going back to using insulin on a regular basis and gaining that

weight once again. In 1996 I finally overcame this eating problem and

learnt to enjoy the food I was eating, instead of gorging a whole packet of

chocolate biscuits in a few hours! Now I allow myself 1 biscuit every few

weeks and eat it very slowly and savour the taste and then walk it off!

I only ever suffered ketoacidosis once but for 5 to 6 years I was always on

the verge of another one but managed to keep it at bay.

from down under

RE: HVAC results

> , That is all true what you say about teens. I was a " good diabetic "

> until I was about 10; at that time, I had to go live with an aunt as there

> were family problems. My aunt, a very undisciplined person, let me eat

> anything and I started out of control. When I went back to my mother a

year

> later, she got me mother good control again, but I never forgot how " good "

> it was to me to eat anything I wanted. I ended up in the hospital a

couple

> of time s because of high blood sugars and ketoacidosis. when I left for

> nursing school and lived in a dorm, I did not eat the way I should of at

> all. I also learned about the " joys " of alcohol, so partied on weekends

> with the frat guys and sororities. I was blind by the time I was 34-and

was

> really lucky to have gone that long with sight. I of course had

> straightened out by that time, but it was too late. I know a lot of

> teenagers who were hospitalized several times for ketoacidosis, so I feel

> lucky it only happened to me twice. I used to go to the drug store and

> drink cherry cokes with my friends-and it was not diet!

August 16, 2004

Ahh! the male breed refuses to believe they are fallible! We women know it

and accept it-most of the time! However, denial comes to all, unfortunately.

Re: HVAC results

My dad who had been diagnosed when he was 20 which would have been around

1950, was a very optimistic person. He always felt fine, never got sick,

and when he was low (of course by sensing and not testing), he just ate.

And, then the method was eat until you felt better. Well, that was one of

the first things I began to see was wrong thinking. When I was diagnosed at

11, what worked for dad worked for me. Never had a care, just some annoying

outcomes sometimes (low bg, passing out because of low bg, etc.). He always

used to describe diabetes as a " nuisance disease. " The thought that it had

serious consequences didn't exist. When I was beginning to notice problems

with my eyesight, I still didn't associate the problems with diabetes. I

think I just thought my eyesight was getting poor and I needed glasses like

anyone else who needs them. My story could have been much worse if I hadn't

met my future wife who in her infinite wisdom, got me going on a meter and

to the eye doctor who is a doctor, and not who only does glasses. 49 years

old, and I still can't keep it straight as to which is the doctor, and which

is not, not to mention spelling optromist or opthamogist! <smile> Why is

it that the male species is so often lacking in wisdom? <smile again>

Dave

Re: HBA1C results

> yes it will, assuming you start it early enough. It is only folks like

> myself, from having high a1c levels for a few years that cause

permanent

> diabetic complications that at times, cannot be reversed. However,

take

a

12

> year old newly diagnosed, teach him a 2 hour post meal test of 120 or

less,

> get his a1c around 5.0, and he will never have diabetic complications

since

> he started it early on. Also, many many many diabetic complications

are

> reversible by running a1c levels of 5.0 to 5.5. Read Bernstein's book,

see

> what all reversed in his body, his numerous patients, you'll faint.

Some

> just don't want to accept responsibility for tight control man and

just

take

> to passive of an approach to management claining its hopeless any how

just

> live for today adn do the best you can. na, not true, you can live a

long

> and productive life if you get your a1c down. Look at how long

Bernstein

has

> been type 1, over 60 years, with no diabetic complications running an

a1c

of

> 4.5

>

> this stuff works folks!

>

> Regards,

>

August 16, 2004