Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, Yes, of course people will know what you are signing with your left hand. They will just think you are left handed. Just use your right hand as a place to sign off of for your left hand. My grandmother (my dad's mom) passed away Friday morning so we'll be off to Peoria, Il. about a three hour drive from here, for the wake and funeral where her friends are. I'll be back tomorrow. Love, Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, Yes, of course people will know what you are signing with your left hand. They will just think you are left handed. Just use your right hand as a place to sign off of for your left hand. My grandmother (my dad's mom) passed away Friday morning so we'll be off to Peoria, Il. about a three hour drive from here, for the wake and funeral where her friends are. I'll be back tomorrow. Love, Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. I've seen AUSLAN sign language before. Doesn't that use both hands for fingerspelling? Greg I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. I've seen AUSLAN sign language before. Doesn't that use both hands for fingerspelling? Greg I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. I've seen AUSLAN sign language before. Doesn't that use both hands for fingerspelling? Greg I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, you can try contacting Barb Wolfe; Barb is familiar with Australian sign and I think American sign also; she might be able to answer your question; her address is: Barbara WolffE-mail Address(es): barblulu@... I Think she is planning to visit the USA next year also! Marie Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, you can try contacting Barb Wolfe; Barb is familiar with Australian sign and I think American sign also; she might be able to answer your question; her address is: Barbara WolffE-mail Address(es): barblulu@... I Think she is planning to visit the USA next year also! Marie Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Marcus, you can try contacting Barb Wolfe; Barb is familiar with Australian sign and I think American sign also; she might be able to answer your question; her address is: Barbara WolffE-mail Address(es): barblulu@... I Think she is planning to visit the USA next year also! Marie Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Greg... when you go into your ASL, I see you using two hands, and whenever I "try" ASL with my left hand only, straying from preferred English, your blank.) In ASL you are basically, you said to me, creating a picture, then filling it in. How can we "draw" with one hand to be understood? And also with, as in my case, not very strong facial expressions? Jennette Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Hi Marcus, I doubt it. If you coud really fingerspell well with your left hand, think could be understood. ASL, unlike Aslan, uses only one hand to fingerspell so you're good to go. Mark ----Original Messagows---- Reply-To: NF2_Crewegroups To: <NF2_Crewegroups> Subject: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:01:21 +1000 I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Hi Jeanette, Greg, I've seen Deaf as well as deaf and hard of hearing people use one hand to sign. Espcially if their " dominant " is holding something. You just have to understand the context that they are talking about if their using only one hand. Mark ----Original Message Follows---- Reply-To: NF2_Crewegroups To: <NF2_Crewegroups> Subject: Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:57:14 -0400 Greg... when you go into your ASL, I see you using two hands, and whenever I " try " ASL with my left hand only, straying from preferred English, your blank.) In ASL you are basically, you said to me, creating a picture, then filling it in. How can we " draw " with one hand to be understood? And also with, as in my case, not very strong facial expressions? Jennette Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Sorry to read of your loss Sally ! Marcus Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) > Marcus, > > Yes, of course people will know what you are signing with your left hand. > They will just think you are left handed. Just use your right hand as a place > to sign off of for your left hand. > > My grandmother (my dad's mom) passed away Friday morning so we'll be off to > Peoria, Il. about a three hour drive from here, for the wake and funeral > where her friends are. > > I'll be back tomorrow. > > Love, Sally > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Sorry to read of your loss Sally ! Marcus Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) > Marcus, > > Yes, of course people will know what you are signing with your left hand. > They will just think you are left handed. Just use your right hand as a place > to sign off of for your left hand. > > My grandmother (my dad's mom) passed away Friday morning so we'll be off to > Peoria, Il. about a three hour drive from here, for the wake and funeral > where her friends are. > > I'll be back tomorrow. > > Love, Sally > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Well in fact us Aussies are used to having to use two hands to get the job done anyhow ! So a bit of one handed ASL should be a pushover ! ( MY WIFE JOYANNE TOLD ME TO POST THIS ONE !! hahahaha ) Marcus Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) > Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:01:21 +1000 > > I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand > so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? > > Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to > ASL ! > > Marcus !! > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Jennette, I agree, half of ASL is interpreted through facial and body expressions. Also, perhaps another 25 percent of ASL is communicated using signs that represent words, the vocab. part, and perhaps the last quarter is where you actually "create a picture." It's the blend of actual sign and expression. I see ASL as being fluid and there is either the extreme ASL users (which I am not) or the extreme SEE users (which I am not). Everywhere in between that is no mans lands or Pidgin (which I am). Pidgin, is the mixed bag and from what I've seen, you have people of various sign ability, even those of Deaf Culture have their own ways of signing. Each person has their own style and for me, it's tough to read someone who I've just met for the first time, unless their signs are picture perfect at first. For me, it takes a bit of getting used to and I do pick up a lot clues off facial expression and spearheading. Eventually, I get better at interpreting their "style" and soon, I can read them even if they sign using one hand. It's just how it is with me. My receptive skills are that way. The biggest thing to learning ASL, SEE, or any kind of sign, is practice. The bottom line is, are you able to get your message across and can you understand the message the other person is trying to convey to you. That's the heart of it, I think. Greg Greg... when you go into your ASL, I see you using two hands, and whenever I "try" ASL with my left hand only, straying from preferred English, your blank.) In ASL you are basically, you said to me, creating a picture, then filling it in. How can we "draw" with one hand to be understood? And also with, as in my case, not very strong facial expressions? Jennette Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Jennette, I agree, half of ASL is interpreted through facial and body expressions. Also, perhaps another 25 percent of ASL is communicated using signs that represent words, the vocab. part, and perhaps the last quarter is where you actually "create a picture." It's the blend of actual sign and expression. I see ASL as being fluid and there is either the extreme ASL users (which I am not) or the extreme SEE users (which I am not). Everywhere in between that is no mans lands or Pidgin (which I am). Pidgin, is the mixed bag and from what I've seen, you have people of various sign ability, even those of Deaf Culture have their own ways of signing. Each person has their own style and for me, it's tough to read someone who I've just met for the first time, unless their signs are picture perfect at first. For me, it takes a bit of getting used to and I do pick up a lot clues off facial expression and spearheading. Eventually, I get better at interpreting their "style" and soon, I can read them even if they sign using one hand. It's just how it is with me. My receptive skills are that way. The biggest thing to learning ASL, SEE, or any kind of sign, is practice. The bottom line is, are you able to get your message across and can you understand the message the other person is trying to convey to you. That's the heart of it, I think. Greg Greg... when you go into your ASL, I see you using two hands, and whenever I "try" ASL with my left hand only, straying from preferred English, your blank.) In ASL you are basically, you said to me, creating a picture, then filling it in. How can we "draw" with one hand to be understood? And also with, as in my case, not very strong facial expressions? Jennette Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Marcus, The only time I have had trouble understanding fingerspelling is when the signer is standing at the wrong angle. As long as I can see the inside of the hand, I can understand. That would be the only reason I could see for there to be a problem. A lot of times, Lee or will start to sign something to me and I have to tell them to turn their hand around. I guess you could say that was the equivalent of mumbling? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Marcus, The only time I have had trouble understanding fingerspelling is when the signer is standing at the wrong angle. As long as I can see the inside of the hand, I can understand. That would be the only reason I could see for there to be a problem. A lot of times, Lee or will start to sign something to me and I have to tell them to turn their hand around. I guess you could say that was the equivalent of mumbling? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2000 Report Share Posted September 5, 2000 Marcus, The only time I have had trouble understanding fingerspelling is when the signer is standing at the wrong angle. As long as I can see the inside of the hand, I can understand. That would be the only reason I could see for there to be a problem. A lot of times, Lee or will start to sign something to me and I have to tell them to turn their hand around. I guess you could say that was the equivalent of mumbling? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 Oh my family is like this Donna. Sometimes I need tricky word spelt out and they have all sorts of variations to the alphabet, DRIVES ME MAD ! MUMBLING for sure ! Thanks DONNA ! MArcus Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) > Marcus, > > The only time I have had trouble understanding fingerspelling is when the > signer is standing at the wrong angle. As long as I can see the inside of > the hand, I can understand. That would be the only reason I could see for > there to be a problem. A lot of times, Lee or will start to sign > something to me and I have to tell them to turn their hand around. I guess > you could say that was the equivalent of mumbling? > > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 Oh my family is like this Donna. Sometimes I need tricky word spelt out and they have all sorts of variations to the alphabet, DRIVES ME MAD ! MUMBLING for sure ! Thanks DONNA ! MArcus Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) > Marcus, > > The only time I have had trouble understanding fingerspelling is when the > signer is standing at the wrong angle. As long as I can see the inside of > the hand, I can understand. That would be the only reason I could see for > there to be a problem. A lot of times, Lee or will start to sign > something to me and I have to tell them to turn their hand around. I guess > you could say that was the equivalent of mumbling? > > Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2000 Report Share Posted September 6, 2000 Greg YEs AUSLAN is two handed and also Signed English. Auslan is in fact ' slang ' its not taught in schools here, but used by the deaf comunity. ( Of which I don't seem to belong ) Deaf children of deaf parents are the meat in the sandwich with this ! The yuse AUSLAN at home and SIGNED ENGLISH at school. Very confusing for them Re: Serious Question !!! ( just this once ! ) Marcus, Using ASL, it doesn't matter which hand you use for your dominant hand, when you're signing or fingerspelling. People should be able to understand you. I've seen AUSLAN sign language before. Doesn't that use both hands for fingerspelling? Greg I'm learning ASL alphabet for USA trip next year, and I have DUD right hand so if I use left, will anybody know what Im signing ??? Australians use AUSLAN and SIGNED ENGLISH ! neither are remotely similar to ASL ! Marcus !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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