Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

[Guest guest]

Dear Frazzled,

It is not uncomman for BP medications to stop working. that is why there

are so many of them. People often have to change them over a period of

time. keep track as your doc suggested and let us know. Ask him about

other kinds-there are a tonof them!

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ damage,

so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make some

weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I usually

eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

Thanks for your thoughts and input.

Just sign me " frazzled " .....

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Dear Frazzled,

It is not uncomman for BP medications to stop working. that is why there

are so many of them. People often have to change them over a period of

time. keep track as your doc suggested and let us know. Ask him about

other kinds-there are a tonof them!

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ damage,

so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make some

weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I usually

eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

Thanks for your thoughts and input.

Just sign me " frazzled " .....

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

Dear Frazzled,

It is not uncomman for BP medications to stop working. that is why there

are so many of them. People often have to change them over a period of

time. keep track as your doc suggested and let us know. Ask him about

other kinds-there are a tonof them!

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ damage,

so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make some

weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I usually

eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

Thanks for your thoughts and input.

Just sign me " frazzled " .....

Bill Powers

[Guest guest]

yes, although with LDL cholesterol. My ldl used to be 80 taking only 2 10 mg

lipitor a week. My a1c was 5.3 at that point. My last a1c was 5.6 and my ldl

went up to 120. Blood sugar effects all of that and especially blood

pressure. Probably not what you wanted to hear Bill but your blood sugar

control/a1c needs to be as close to 5.0 as possible. I also had my blood

pressure go from 117 to 135 at an a1c of 6.9 and when my a1c dropped to 5.5

to 5.3 range, my blood pressure came back down to 115 and 107 etc. Blood

sugar and a1c levels effect your heart, strain it, kidneys, and much more

and can cause elevated blood pressure.

Regards,

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes, although with LDL cholesterol. My ldl used to be 80 taking only 2 10 mg

lipitor a week. My a1c was 5.3 at that point. My last a1c was 5.6 and my ldl

went up to 120. Blood sugar effects all of that and especially blood

pressure. Probably not what you wanted to hear Bill but your blood sugar

control/a1c needs to be as close to 5.0 as possible. I also had my blood

pressure go from 117 to 135 at an a1c of 6.9 and when my a1c dropped to 5.5

to 5.3 range, my blood pressure came back down to 115 and 107 etc. Blood

sugar and a1c levels effect your heart, strain it, kidneys, and much more

and can cause elevated blood pressure.

Regards,

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes, although with LDL cholesterol. My ldl used to be 80 taking only 2 10 mg

lipitor a week. My a1c was 5.3 at that point. My last a1c was 5.6 and my ldl

went up to 120. Blood sugar effects all of that and especially blood

pressure. Probably not what you wanted to hear Bill but your blood sugar

control/a1c needs to be as close to 5.0 as possible. I also had my blood

pressure go from 117 to 135 at an a1c of 6.9 and when my a1c dropped to 5.5

to 5.3 range, my blood pressure came back down to 115 and 107 etc. Blood

sugar and a1c levels effect your heart, strain it, kidneys, and much more

and can cause elevated blood pressure.

Regards,

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ah yes ,

How very well I know that there's a relationship between good LDL cholesterol,

hemoglobin A 1 c and blood pressure. My A 1 c has not been tested in awhile

because I already have amassed enough debt with lab work and just can't bite off

any more tests until I find a way to pay for what I've chalked up. My sugars to

seem to be OK though not spectacular, but right now my big concern is getting

that BP down then I would think I should be able to start getting better control

of the whole picture instead of concentrating on just one issue. It does seem

like it's an ongoing thing, that is, once you think you get everything in

control something changes to make you start all over again. Not fun to think

about, just part of life I guess. But my next move is to see how my BP goes in

this next week, see the doc and work it from there. Hey, at least today I got my

pressure back to about 134/78 so I want to see if I can get it down to say

110/70, that would be nice.....

Bill

[Guest guest]

Bill.

I'm not certain about your financial situation right now, but if possible,

check your sugar 2 hours past eating and keep it 120 or less. If you keep

your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less, you are guaranteed to have an a1c of

5.0 to 5.3 since the 2 hour post meal test reading determines what your a1c

level will be. Hope that makes sense.

I think you are treating the symptom rather than the cause of your bp. If

you do not tackle your blood sugars as aggressive as possible, at this

point, you won't get strict bp control. I am speaking from personal

experience. Bill, I'll be honest with you and talk tough since I care and I

don't care if it upsets you smile, I know you can take it. Since you have

moved, I'd lay money down that your blood sugar control has not been as

tight as before prior to you moving. I bet your a1c is up, you are not doing

2 hour post meal tests, you are more lenient in the amount of carbs you eat

making excuses about it or just frustrated by the limitation in general,

being more comfortable with sugars higher than 120 and so on. We all do it,

but Bill, buckle down partner, buckle down. Your raise in your a1c has

*strongly* contributed to the raise in your bp. High blood sugar causes all

diabetic complications and Your raised bp is from the diabetes, not your

medication IMO. Listen to yoru body Bill, its telling you to get strict,

buckle down, carb count, keep your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less. You

need to focus on that upfront right now, not later, since your diabetes is

the cause of this IMO.

I seriously think that by gaining tight control again, limiting carbs which

none of us like to do, your bp will come right back down. I have a hunch

some of the complication with your bp is caused from an elevated a1c

reading. Like I was saying in my prev post, my bp went up to 135 at an a1c

of 6.9 and once I got it to 5.0 to 5.3, keeping my 2 hour post meal 120 or

less, my bp came down to 105 to 115 range without needing medication. I'm

serious Bill, your blood sugar causes high blood pressure if your a1c is not

under the strictest control.

Good luck, bite down, grin and bare it, and get determined to get your 2

hour post meal test 120 or less and you will see your blood pressure come

back down.

Based on personal experience, I strongly encourage you to look towards

diabetes as the problem Bill, since more than likely, the only thing that

has changed in the past 4 months is your eating habits, your blood sugars,

and that is what is causing it.

Good luck Bill, I'm rooting for you.

Regards,

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> Ah yes ,

>

> How very well I know that there's a relationship between good LDL

cholesterol, hemoglobin A 1 c and blood pressure. My A 1 c has not been

tested in awhile because I already have amassed enough debt with lab work

and just can't bite off any more tests until I find a way to pay for what

I've chalked up. My sugars to seem to be OK though not spectacular, but

right now my big concern is getting that BP down then I would think I should

be able to start getting better control of the whole picture instead of

concentrating on just one issue. It does seem like it's an ongoing thing,

that is, once you think you get everything in control something changes to

make you start all over again. Not fun to think about, just part of life I

guess. But my next move is to see how my BP goes in this next week, see the

doc and work it from there. Hey, at least today I got my pressure back to

about 134/78 so I want to see if I can get it down to say 110/70, that would

be nice.....

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bill.

I'm not certain about your financial situation right now, but if possible,

check your sugar 2 hours past eating and keep it 120 or less. If you keep

your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less, you are guaranteed to have an a1c of

5.0 to 5.3 since the 2 hour post meal test reading determines what your a1c

level will be. Hope that makes sense.

I think you are treating the symptom rather than the cause of your bp. If

you do not tackle your blood sugars as aggressive as possible, at this

point, you won't get strict bp control. I am speaking from personal

experience. Bill, I'll be honest with you and talk tough since I care and I

don't care if it upsets you smile, I know you can take it. Since you have

moved, I'd lay money down that your blood sugar control has not been as

tight as before prior to you moving. I bet your a1c is up, you are not doing

2 hour post meal tests, you are more lenient in the amount of carbs you eat

making excuses about it or just frustrated by the limitation in general,

being more comfortable with sugars higher than 120 and so on. We all do it,

but Bill, buckle down partner, buckle down. Your raise in your a1c has

*strongly* contributed to the raise in your bp. High blood sugar causes all

diabetic complications and Your raised bp is from the diabetes, not your

medication IMO. Listen to yoru body Bill, its telling you to get strict,

buckle down, carb count, keep your 2 hour post meal test 120 or less. You

need to focus on that upfront right now, not later, since your diabetes is

the cause of this IMO.

I seriously think that by gaining tight control again, limiting carbs which

none of us like to do, your bp will come right back down. I have a hunch

some of the complication with your bp is caused from an elevated a1c

reading. Like I was saying in my prev post, my bp went up to 135 at an a1c

of 6.9 and once I got it to 5.0 to 5.3, keeping my 2 hour post meal 120 or

less, my bp came down to 105 to 115 range without needing medication. I'm

serious Bill, your blood sugar causes high blood pressure if your a1c is not

under the strictest control.

Good luck, bite down, grin and bare it, and get determined to get your 2

hour post meal test 120 or less and you will see your blood pressure come

back down.

Based on personal experience, I strongly encourage you to look towards

diabetes as the problem Bill, since more than likely, the only thing that

has changed in the past 4 months is your eating habits, your blood sugars,

and that is what is causing it.

Good luck Bill, I'm rooting for you.

Regards,

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> Ah yes ,

>

> How very well I know that there's a relationship between good LDL

cholesterol, hemoglobin A 1 c and blood pressure. My A 1 c has not been

tested in awhile because I already have amassed enough debt with lab work

and just can't bite off any more tests until I find a way to pay for what

I've chalked up. My sugars to seem to be OK though not spectacular, but

right now my big concern is getting that BP down then I would think I should

be able to start getting better control of the whole picture instead of

concentrating on just one issue. It does seem like it's an ongoing thing,

that is, once you think you get everything in control something changes to

make you start all over again. Not fun to think about, just part of life I

guess. But my next move is to see how my BP goes in this next week, see the

doc and work it from there. Hey, at least today I got my pressure back to

about 134/78 so I want to see if I can get it down to say 110/70, that would

be nice.....

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most part,

they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved and gone

through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to check not only a

fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at bedtime because I

am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low throughout the day is most

important. And you are right, keeping this in line will at the very least help

my other problems. I am starting to see lowering of BP having doubled up on the

Lisinopril so my readings yesterday and today have been about 130/85, so it is

coming down. In another few days I will see whether this new regimen is going to

do any good or if we need to switch to something else.

I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's easy

for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not the ones to

get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying " pay up or

else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my rent check last

month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough money in there,

dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo for some ATM

purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And BTW, I checked

my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check one so I have to visit

the bank to straighten this out, get those charges dropped and money returned to

my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress, and I'm a highly stressed person

anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it, I always do. I know i'm living on a

lean wallet now and things will get better, but that's not right now. So yeah,

that plays into the BP picture. Hopefully in another month things will clear up

a bit financially and in the meantime better medical control of the BP, and in

the meantime I intend to stick to my guns on the sugar control.

Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict controls

I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice stomach fullness more

quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids as much especially

since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing around 205, now I'm 190,

so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad. Could be better, but not

bad.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some control

over some of the things that are happening. Not control over everything, but I

do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my own sugar goals would be

115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology appoitnment we'll tackle

whether Actos is the best course for diabetes control or perhaps another med

that maybe could work better? We'll see.

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

,

Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most part,

they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved and gone

through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to check not only a

fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at bedtime because I

am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low throughout the day is most

important. And you are right, keeping this in line will at the very least help

my other problems. I am starting to see lowering of BP having doubled up on the

Lisinopril so my readings yesterday and today have been about 130/85, so it is

coming down. In another few days I will see whether this new regimen is going to

do any good or if we need to switch to something else.

I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's easy

for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not the ones to

get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying " pay up or

else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my rent check last

month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough money in there,

dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo for some ATM

purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And BTW, I checked

my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check one so I have to visit

the bank to straighten this out, get those charges dropped and money returned to

my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress, and I'm a highly stressed person

anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it, I always do. I know i'm living on a

lean wallet now and things will get better, but that's not right now. So yeah,

that plays into the BP picture. Hopefully in another month things will clear up

a bit financially and in the meantime better medical control of the BP, and in

the meantime I intend to stick to my guns on the sugar control.

Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict controls

I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice stomach fullness more

quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids as much especially

since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing around 205, now I'm 190,

so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad. Could be better, but not

bad.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some control

over some of the things that are happening. Not control over everything, but I

do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my own sugar goals would be

115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology appoitnment we'll tackle

whether Actos is the best course for diabetes control or perhaps another med

that maybe could work better? We'll see.

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

I'm very happy to see you are doing the pre/post meal tests Bill, that is the

best weapon you got in keeping this thing under control. If your post meal is

around 115, for the most part, then your a1c will be very close to 5.0. I'm not

certain about medicare, but, see how often they will cover cholesterol/a1c blood

work and get an a1c done as soon as you can to see what is up with that bugger.

Something is going on here Bill... your kidneys were effected recently and now

your blood pressure. That concerns me, as I know it does you.

Yes, stress certainly effects bp and blood sugar for that matter.

See if you can get an a1c drawn so we can fully push that out of the way as

being a major contributer to the current issues.

I'm in this with you Bill, we are going to get this back under control partner!

Regards,

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

,

Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most

part, they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved and

gone through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to check not only

a fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at bedtime because I

am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low throughout the day is most

important. And you are right, keeping this in line will at the very least help

my other problems. I am starting to see lowering of BP having doubled up on the

Lisinopril so my readings yesterday and today have been about 130/85, so it is

coming down. In another few days I will see whether this new regimen is going to

do any good or if we need to switch to something else.

I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's easy

for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not the ones to

get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying " pay up or

else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my rent check last

month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough money in there,

dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo for some ATM

purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And BTW, I checked

my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check one so I have to visit

the bank to straighten this out, get those charges dropped and money returned to

my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress, and I'm a highly stressed person

anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it, I always do. I know i'm living on a

lean wallet now and things will get better, but that's not right now. So yeah,

that plays into the BP picture. Hopefully in another month things will clear up

a bit financially and in the meantime better medical control of the BP, and in

the meantime I intend to stick to my guns on the sugar control.

Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict controls

I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice stomach fullness more

quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids as much especially

since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing around 205, now I'm 190,

so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad. Could be better, but not

bad.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some control

over some of the things that are happening. Not control over everything, but I

do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my own sugar goals would be

115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology appoitnment we'll tackle

whether Actos is the best course for diabetes control or perhaps another med

that maybe could work better? We'll see.

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

I'm very happy to see you are doing the pre/post meal tests Bill, that is the

best weapon you got in keeping this thing under control. If your post meal is

around 115, for the most part, then your a1c will be very close to 5.0. I'm not

certain about medicare, but, see how often they will cover cholesterol/a1c blood

work and get an a1c done as soon as you can to see what is up with that bugger.

Something is going on here Bill... your kidneys were effected recently and now

your blood pressure. That concerns me, as I know it does you.

Yes, stress certainly effects bp and blood sugar for that matter.

See if you can get an a1c drawn so we can fully push that out of the way as

being a major contributer to the current issues.

I'm in this with you Bill, we are going to get this back under control partner!

Regards,

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

,

Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most

part, they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved and

gone through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to check not only

a fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at bedtime because I

am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low throughout the day is most

important. And you are right, keeping this in line will at the very least help

my other problems. I am starting to see lowering of BP having doubled up on the

Lisinopril so my readings yesterday and today have been about 130/85, so it is

coming down. In another few days I will see whether this new regimen is going to

do any good or if we need to switch to something else.

I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's easy

for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not the ones to

get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying " pay up or

else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my rent check last

month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough money in there,

dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo for some ATM

purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And BTW, I checked

my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check one so I have to visit

the bank to straighten this out, get those charges dropped and money returned to

my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress, and I'm a highly stressed person

anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it, I always do. I know i'm living on a

lean wallet now and things will get better, but that's not right now. So yeah,

that plays into the BP picture. Hopefully in another month things will clear up

a bit financially and in the meantime better medical control of the BP, and in

the meantime I intend to stick to my guns on the sugar control.

Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict controls

I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice stomach fullness more

quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids as much especially

since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing around 205, now I'm 190,

so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad. Could be better, but not

bad.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some control

over some of the things that are happening. Not control over everything, but I

do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my own sugar goals would be

115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology appoitnment we'll tackle

whether Actos is the best course for diabetes control or perhaps another med

that maybe could work better? We'll see.

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

Good for you Bill! You can buy A1C tests in the drug store. I am not sure

how much they cost, but I have read they are very accurate and easy to do.

Yu put blood on a strip and mail into some company and they send the results

back. you might ask your pharmacist about it. I would bet it cost a whole

lot less than having g it drawn at a lab!

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

,

Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most

part, they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved

and gone through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to check

not only a fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at

bedtime because I am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low

throughout the day is most important. And you are right, keeping this in

line will at the very least help my other problems. I am starting to see

lowering of BP having doubled up on the Lisinopril so my readings yesterday

and today have been about 130/85, so it is coming down. In another few days

I will see whether this new regimen is going to do any good or if we need to

switch to something else.

I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's

easy for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not the

ones to get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying

" pay up or else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my rent

check last month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough money

in there, dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo for

some ATM purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And

BTW, I checked my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check one

so I have to visit the bank to straighten this out, get those charges

dropped and money returned to my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress,

and I'm a highly stressed person anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it, I

always do. I know i'm living on a lean wallet now and things will get

better, but that's not right now. So yeah, that plays into the BP picture.

Hopefully in another month things will clear up a bit financially and in the

meantime better medical control of the BP, and in the meantime I intend to

stick to my guns on the sugar control.

Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict

controls I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice stomach

fullness more quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids as

much especially since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing around

205, now I'm 190, so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad. Could

be better, but not bad.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some

control over some of the things that are happening. Not control over

everything, but I do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my own

sugar goals would be 115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology

appoitnment we'll tackle whether Actos is the best course for diabetes

control or perhaps another med that maybe could work better? We'll see.

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

Good for you Bill! You can buy A1C tests in the drug store. I am not sure

how much they cost, but I have read they are very accurate and easy to do.

Yu put blood on a strip and mail into some company and they send the results

back. you might ask your pharmacist about it. I would bet it cost a whole

lot less than having g it drawn at a lab!

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

,

Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most

part, they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved

and gone through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to check

not only a fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at

bedtime because I am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low

throughout the day is most important. And you are right, keeping this in

line will at the very least help my other problems. I am starting to see

lowering of BP having doubled up on the Lisinopril so my readings yesterday

and today have been about 130/85, so it is coming down. In another few days

I will see whether this new regimen is going to do any good or if we need to

switch to something else.

I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's

easy for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not the

ones to get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying

" pay up or else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my rent

check last month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough money

in there, dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo for

some ATM purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And

BTW, I checked my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check one

so I have to visit the bank to straighten this out, get those charges

dropped and money returned to my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress,

and I'm a highly stressed person anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it, I

always do. I know i'm living on a lean wallet now and things will get

better, but that's not right now. So yeah, that plays into the BP picture.

Hopefully in another month things will clear up a bit financially and in the

meantime better medical control of the BP, and in the meantime I intend to

stick to my guns on the sugar control.

Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict

controls I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice stomach

fullness more quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids as

much especially since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing around

205, now I'm 190, so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad. Could

be better, but not bad.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some

control over some of the things that are happening. Not control over

everything, but I do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my own

sugar goals would be 115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology

appoitnment we'll tackle whether Actos is the best course for diabetes

control or perhaps another med that maybe could work better? We'll see.

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

,

I didn't know the hemoglobin A-1-C tests were available from a pharmacy but will

check this out really pronto. I know the cost would be a whole lot less than

going to Uniblab (oops, I mean Unilab.)

Ah, the things you can get at a pharmacy these days. Now if only I could get

spare brain parts there to make me, an old fart, fully functional again. Oh and

if I could get a magic pill that would grow hair again...

I'm not wishing for much am I????

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

,

I didn't know the hemoglobin A-1-C tests were available from a pharmacy but will

check this out really pronto. I know the cost would be a whole lot less than

going to Uniblab (oops, I mean Unilab.)

Ah, the things you can get at a pharmacy these days. Now if only I could get

spare brain parts there to make me, an old fart, fully functional again. Oh and

if I could get a magic pill that would grow hair again...

I'm not wishing for much am I????

Mister Bill

[Guest guest]

do a google on it, there is a company you can call that has an 800 number.

Regards,

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

>

>

> ,

>

> Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most

> part, they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved

> and gone through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to

check

> not only a fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at

> bedtime because I am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low

> throughout the day is most important. And you are right, keeping this in

> line will at the very least help my other problems. I am starting to see

> lowering of BP having doubled up on the Lisinopril so my readings

yesterday

> and today have been about 130/85, so it is coming down. In another few

days

> I will see whether this new regimen is going to do any good or if we need

to

> switch to something else.

>

> I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's

> easy for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not

the

> ones to get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying

> " pay up or else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my

rent

> check last month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough

money

> in there, dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo

for

> some ATM purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And

> BTW, I checked my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check

one

> so I have to visit the bank to straighten this out, get those charges

> dropped and money returned to my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress,

> and I'm a highly stressed person anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it,

I

> always do. I know i'm living on a lean wallet now and things will get

> better, but that's not right now. So yeah, that plays into the BP picture.

> Hopefully in another month things will clear up a bit financially and in

the

> meantime better medical control of the BP, and in the meantime I intend to

> stick to my guns on the sugar control.

>

> Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

> actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict

> controls I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice

stomach

> fullness more quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids

as

> much especially since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing

around

> 205, now I'm 190, so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad.

Could

> be better, but not bad.

>

> Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

> things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some

> control over some of the things that are happening. Not control over

> everything, but I do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my

own

> sugar goals would be 115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology

> appoitnment we'll tackle whether Actos is the best course for diabetes

> control or perhaps another med that maybe could work better? We'll see.

>

> Mister Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

do a google on it, there is a company you can call that has an 800 number.

Regards,

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

>

>

> ,

>

> Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most

> part, they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved

> and gone through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to

check

> not only a fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at

> bedtime because I am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low

> throughout the day is most important. And you are right, keeping this in

> line will at the very least help my other problems. I am starting to see

> lowering of BP having doubled up on the Lisinopril so my readings

yesterday

> and today have been about 130/85, so it is coming down. In another few

days

> I will see whether this new regimen is going to do any good or if we need

to

> switch to something else.

>

> I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's

> easy for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not

the

> ones to get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying

> " pay up or else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my

rent

> check last month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough

money

> in there, dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo

for

> some ATM purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And

> BTW, I checked my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check

one

> so I have to visit the bank to straighten this out, get those charges

> dropped and money returned to my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress,

> and I'm a highly stressed person anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it,

I

> always do. I know i'm living on a lean wallet now and things will get

> better, but that's not right now. So yeah, that plays into the BP picture.

> Hopefully in another month things will clear up a bit financially and in

the

> meantime better medical control of the BP, and in the meantime I intend to

> stick to my guns on the sugar control.

>

> Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

> actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict

> controls I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice

stomach

> fullness more quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids

as

> much especially since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing

around

> 205, now I'm 190, so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad.

Could

> be better, but not bad.

>

> Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

> things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some

> control over some of the things that are happening. Not control over

> everything, but I do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my

own

> sugar goals would be 115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology

> appoitnment we'll tackle whether Actos is the best course for diabetes

> control or perhaps another med that maybe could work better? We'll see.

>

> Mister Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

do a google on it, there is a company you can call that has an 800 number.

Regards,

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

>

>

> ,

>

> Actually I have been doing my 2-hour post prandial sugars and for the most

> part, they are between 118 and 128, typically 122. Even though I've moved

> and gone through hell and back, I have for the most part continued to

check

> not only a fasting but a 2-hour post prandial for each meal and then at

> bedtime because I am convinced that keeping the sugars uniformly low

> throughout the day is most important. And you are right, keeping this in

> line will at the very least help my other problems. I am starting to see

> lowering of BP having doubled up on the Lisinopril so my readings

yesterday

> and today have been about 130/85, so it is coming down. In another few

days

> I will see whether this new regimen is going to do any good or if we need

to

> switch to something else.

>

> I am certain that some of my BP rise is due to the financial stress. It's

> easy for docs to say " don't worry about this stuff " because they are not

the

> ones to get the nastygrams from the lab and from their own offices saying

> " pay up or else. " They are not the ones that deal with the bank when my

rent

> check last month bounced because they deemed that there wasn't enough

money

> in there, dinged me for a returned check charge, charged me up the wazoo

for

> some ATM purchases that went against a negative balance, yada yada. (And

> BTW, I checked my balance and found the bank in error on the rent check

one

> so I have to visit the bank to straighten this out, get those charges

> dropped and money returned to my account, etc.) All this DOES add stress,

> and I'm a highly stressed person anyway. Yes, I know I'll get through it,

I

> always do. I know i'm living on a lean wallet now and things will get

> better, but that's not right now. So yeah, that plays into the BP picture.

> Hopefully in another month things will clear up a bit financially and in

the

> meantime better medical control of the BP, and in the meantime I intend to

> stick to my guns on the sugar control.

>

> Interestingly too, since I had umbilical hernia surgery last month, I've

> actually lost 5 pounds. I don't know how either. I use the same strict

> controls I have always applied, but maybe I'm eating less. I notice

stomach

> fullness more quickly and I'm finding I don't overload myself with fluids

as

> much especially since taking the Lisinopril. Last year I was weighing

around

> 205, now I'm 190, so that's 15 pounds lost in the last year. Not bad.

Could

> be better, but not bad.

>

> Thanks for the words of encouragement and yes, I intend to keep monitoring

> things, because after all, it's my body and my life, and I do have some

> control over some of the things that are happening. Not control over

> everything, but I do have some control. My own goal for BP is 110/70, my

own

> sugar goals would be 115 post prandially. Maybe with my next nephrology

> appoitnment we'll tackle whether Actos is the best course for diabetes

> control or perhaps another med that maybe could work better? We'll see.

>

> Mister Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave, Non-diabetic people run A1Cs of 4.5-5.5, so the lower you can get your

A1C, the better. Most docs are very happy if you can get it to 6, but that

still means your average blood sugar is above 120 daily.

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

Just wondering who says the a1c is supposed to be 5.0 or so? My doc never

said this, just that it should be 6.0 or so.

Dave

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark

in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been

getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on

the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during

the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave, Non-diabetic people run A1Cs of 4.5-5.5, so the lower you can get your

A1C, the better. Most docs are very happy if you can get it to 6, but that

still means your average blood sugar is above 120 daily.

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

Just wondering who says the a1c is supposed to be 5.0 or so? My doc never

said this, just that it should be 6.0 or so.

Dave

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark

in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been

getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on

the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during

the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave, Non-diabetic people run A1Cs of 4.5-5.5, so the lower you can get your

A1C, the better. Most docs are very happy if you can get it to 6, but that

still means your average blood sugar is above 120 daily.

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

Just wondering who says the a1c is supposed to be 5.0 or so? My doc never

said this, just that it should be 6.0 or so.

Dave

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark

in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months, for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been

getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on

the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during

the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave, There is a book written by a physician named Dr. richard Berstein who

is diabetic for as long as I have been-60years! He is still working full

time at 70 plus years. The book is available on tape from the Braille

Institute volunteer library if you are interested in reading it.

or . He recommends A1Cs to run at that level in

order to prevent any complications.

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

I hear the logic, but what medical authority says a normal a1c should be

between 4.5 and 5? I've never heard this before. Thanks.

Dave

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP

control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been

on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark

in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months,

for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been

getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as

it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil

and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at

my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on

the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during

the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months

back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what

I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments

that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dave, There is a book written by a physician named Dr. richard Berstein who

is diabetic for as long as I have been-60years! He is still working full

time at 70 plus years. The book is available on tape from the Braille

Institute volunteer library if you are interested in reading it.

or . He recommends A1Cs to run at that level in

order to prevent any complications.

Re: Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

I hear the logic, but what medical authority says a normal a1c should be

between 4.5 and 5? I've never heard this before. Thanks.

Dave

Blood pressure meds pooping out on me

> I was just wondering if anyone else on this list has experienced this

before - a blood pressure med was working great giving me good BP

control

through the whole day, and now it's not doing that anymore. I had been

on

Plendil 5 mg and it was keeping my pressure right around the 120/80 mark

in

the morning and even at night. But it seems the last couple of months,

for

no trackable reason, that it's not cutting the mustard and I've been

getting

readings around 159/100. So my doc switched me to Lisonopril 10 mg, as

it

would be better on the kidneys, in hopes this would control the pressure

better. By itself, I was getting readings around 160/90 or 150/110.

Obviously that's NOT good. My nephrologist put me BACK on the Plendil

and

said to keep taking the Lisinopril. Then I had a BP check yesterday at

my

regular doc's office and it was still 140/90 so he said to double up on

the

Lisinopril and continue taking the Plendil, do a diary on the BPs during

the

day over a week and then see him next week for follow-up.

>

> Now I know that the body changes over time and I guess it goes without

saying that what once worked doesn't always. And I also know I have to

contend with the proteinuria problem I mentioned a couple of months

back,

although have not been able to afford another lab test to check it again

(thank you very much Medicare, you're so wonderful.)

>

> My obvious objective is to keep the BP lower and stave off any organ

damage, so I take this very seriously, and I am finally starting to make

some weight-loss progress without any " diets " , just eating less of what

I

usually eat. So I'm making some progress, BS's are good, just not BP.

>

> Although none of us on here are doctors, has anyone else had a similar

experience and if so what worked for you or do you have any comments

that

might point me to something that DOES work?

>

> Thanks for your thoughts and input.

>

> Just sign me " frazzled " .....

>

> Bill Powers

>

>