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A lovely offering of pamphlet titles. Actually, phony pamphlets could

really wreack havoc. I love the idea. It's simply delicious. Joe, this

bit below calls for one of your famous form letters, if you're in the

mood. A form letter to the GSO, asking for our basket contributions

back. Or we could do one of those chain e-mails that keeps circulating

around the Internet. YOu know, the kind where after 150 signatures, it

will be forwarded to the GSO.

Apple

>

> Maybe you would have a case for asking for youre basket contrinutions

back

> since the information ( " alcoholism " is a disease, God and the steps

are all

> the will save you, AA is an effective program, etc) turned out not to

be true?

>

> Joe Berenbaum

> mailto:joe-b@...

>

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I will put up a fake store on the site. The items I have to date are:

Christmas nativity scene, with tiny Bill W. in manger. (terra cotta

figurines hand painted by ino virgins)

Clear acrylic spittle shield to be worn as protection when speaking

with old-timer with belt buckle large enough to serve a King Salmon on.

(credit to Hollister)

Exploding medallions (replace real medallion at the last minute before

it is presented to your least favorite AA preacher)

I'll have to ponder the pamphlet issue... could be good. I have always

thought that printing business cards which read " www.AAdeprogramming.co

m " is sufficient. Of course, I would crash meetings and drop them on

the floor of the bathroom, or tuck them inside of big books for sale.

Apple

>

>

> >I thought of doing one

> >called " predators in the room " , or " some are sicker than others...

but

> >most are sicker than you think "

> >What do you think?

>

> I'd recommend a less obviously combative approach... But that's a

matter of

> taste.

>

> >

> >All these ideas are going to cost me a lot of money. Can anyone come

> >up with any ideas that won't cost me any money??? Or will I have to

go

> >back to meetings & steal from the baskets?

> >Apple

>

> It seems to me that if you produce a quality product, you should be

able to

> sell it -- pamphlets, medallions that explode or dissolve in alcohol,

> whatever. Anybody who hits your web site is a potential customer.

Some of

> them are undoubtedly folks who have been sentenced to AA against

their will,

> who would welcome the opportunity to buy pamphlets in quantity and

> distribute them to appropriate places.

>

> --wally

>

>

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I will put up a fake store on the site. The items I have to date are:

Christmas nativity scene, with tiny Bill W. in manger. (terra cotta

figurines hand painted by ino virgins)

Clear acrylic spittle shield to be worn as protection when speaking

with old-timer with belt buckle large enough to serve a King Salmon on.

(credit to Hollister)

Exploding medallions (replace real medallion at the last minute before

it is presented to your least favorite AA preacher)

I'll have to ponder the pamphlet issue... could be good. I have always

thought that printing business cards which read " www.AAdeprogramming.co

m " is sufficient. Of course, I would crash meetings and drop them on

the floor of the bathroom, or tuck them inside of big books for sale.

Apple

>

>

> >I thought of doing one

> >called " predators in the room " , or " some are sicker than others...

but

> >most are sicker than you think "

> >What do you think?

>

> I'd recommend a less obviously combative approach... But that's a

matter of

> taste.

>

> >

> >All these ideas are going to cost me a lot of money. Can anyone come

> >up with any ideas that won't cost me any money??? Or will I have to

go

> >back to meetings & steal from the baskets?

> >Apple

>

> It seems to me that if you produce a quality product, you should be

able to

> sell it -- pamphlets, medallions that explode or dissolve in alcohol,

> whatever. Anybody who hits your web site is a potential customer.

Some of

> them are undoubtedly folks who have been sentenced to AA against

their will,

> who would welcome the opportunity to buy pamphlets in quantity and

> distribute them to appropriate places.

>

> --wally

>

>

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I will put up a fake store on the site. The items I have to date are:

Christmas nativity scene, with tiny Bill W. in manger. (terra cotta

figurines hand painted by ino virgins)

Clear acrylic spittle shield to be worn as protection when speaking

with old-timer with belt buckle large enough to serve a King Salmon on.

(credit to Hollister)

Exploding medallions (replace real medallion at the last minute before

it is presented to your least favorite AA preacher)

I'll have to ponder the pamphlet issue... could be good. I have always

thought that printing business cards which read " www.AAdeprogramming.co

m " is sufficient. Of course, I would crash meetings and drop them on

the floor of the bathroom, or tuck them inside of big books for sale.

Apple

>

>

> >I thought of doing one

> >called " predators in the room " , or " some are sicker than others...

but

> >most are sicker than you think "

> >What do you think?

>

> I'd recommend a less obviously combative approach... But that's a

matter of

> taste.

>

> >

> >All these ideas are going to cost me a lot of money. Can anyone come

> >up with any ideas that won't cost me any money??? Or will I have to

go

> >back to meetings & steal from the baskets?

> >Apple

>

> It seems to me that if you produce a quality product, you should be

able to

> sell it -- pamphlets, medallions that explode or dissolve in alcohol,

> whatever. Anybody who hits your web site is a potential customer.

Some of

> them are undoubtedly folks who have been sentenced to AA against

their will,

> who would welcome the opportunity to buy pamphlets in quantity and

> distribute them to appropriate places.

>

> --wally

>

>

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Apple,

Maybe we can rally support from Ragge, Trimpey, Bufe, and others. With

enough people contributing it would reduce costs considerably. I think

many would find the idea irresistable. What a great way to start the

millenium.

AppleDTP@... wrote:

>

> , you are truly sick, that's what I like about you. Maybe I'll

> check the cost of skywriting. I could empty out my 401-k for the first

> prank of the century.

> Apple

>

> > Hey Apple,

> > I know the exploding medallion bit is a joke, but seriously how about

> > really hiring a plane to tow a banner with an appropriate message like

> > " AA not working? Visit aadeprogramming.com " I see them all the time

> at

> > ball games and they always get my attention. It gets the message

> across

> > without the horrible aftertaste that would come from the numerous

> > caustic exchanges with AA hard-liners should you have a booth instead.

> > It would totally avoid any needless abuse and reach the whole dang

> hive

> > to boot.

> >

> > I can see it now. It's the Sunday Morning Closing Meeting at the

> > Metrodome Stadium in Minneapolis Minnesota on July 2nd. 2000. A moment

> > of silence is being reverently observed for the alcoholic who still

> > suffers. Then from the distance the whine of a small aircraft engine

> > pierces the calm. Growing louder still, 60,000 heads pivot to engage

> > the source of the unwanted interruption. The congregation gasps as one

> > as the offending message is absorbed.

> >

> > The crowd develops a huge resentment as the continuing whine of the

> > aircraft overhead serves to add to their irritation. The keynote

> speaker

> > attempts to calm the crowd with a timely recitation of the Serenity

> > Prayer while simultaneously visualizing anti aircraft turrets around

> the

> > perimeter of the stadium blasting the intruder from the sky. The moral

> > high ground and serenity of the Sunday Morning Big Book Revival

> Meeting

> > is lost. The 2000 Convention is ruined.

> >

> > Metrodome Stadium having emptied out, dejected volunteers wearing

> > T-Shirts earned for their selfless service to the AA cause pick up the

> > remaining debris and contemplate the slogan imprinted on their

> hallowed

> > garments. PASS IT ON- INTO THE 21st. CENTURY

> > Too bad it was fumbled on the one yard line.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi Fred:

> > > Welcome to the list. Some people are taking vacations so the list

> > > isn't too active right now, but please don't be discouraged. Maybe

> > > they'll come out of the woodwork. I'm happy to meet one more person

> > > with common sense who is not fodder for the regime.

> > > I'm currently working on a project with a metal-smith to manufacture

> > > exploding medallions - (10 years and up) in order to help subvert

> the

> > > movement. I'm also considering hiring a skywriter plane to fly over

> > > the upcoming AA world convention (to be scheduled in Indiana), with

> an

> > > appropriate message of some sort.

> > >

> > > Curious about two things... where is this NA meeting you describe?

> > > Which city? Is it listed on the directory?

> > >

> > > The other... I knew a really appealing man named Fred from the 12

> step

> > > groups in my area. You don't happen to manufacture something that

> has

> > > to do with fish tanks do you? It's a long shot, but hey, I had to

> ask.

> > > Apple

> > > >

> > > > Hey people,

> > > >

> > > > I just subscribed after being referred by a friend who shares my

> > > > inability, despite years of trying, to accept the 12-step

> ideology.

> > > > Despite this I've stayed clean over nine years, which should come

> as a

> > > > surprise only to those brain-washed by THE PROGRAM. My

> objections to

> > > > it can be summed up by saying that it's authoritarian and

> religious,

> > > > both of which are repugnant to me. Still, I've attended NA

> meetings

> > > > consistently, as programmed to do in treatment, because I didn't

> want

> > > > to return to the life I'd been leading and I'd

> > > > been warned repeatedly that failure to do so would result in

> relapse

> > > > and death.

> > > > I go, keep my mouth shut, and leave feeling even worse because of

> > > being

> > > > subjected to a barrage of dogma that contradicts my most basic

> > > beliefs,

> > > > such as the ability of humans to be free and to follow their own

> > > > conscience. The 12-step fanatics heap scorn on the notion that an

> > > > addict is capable of doing anything other than use drugs and die

> > > unless

> > > > he accepts their tutelage. Lately I've been attending an NA

> meeting

> > > > started by people who question the NA program, where I feel able

> to

> > > > share honestly and where I can define for myself why and how I'll

> stay

> > > > clean and live my life, something impossible in most meetings,

> where

> > > > the emphasis is on conforming to truths laid down years ago in

> some

> > > > text (and possibly divine in origin). This is both liberating and

> > > > difficult, as years in the program have done nothing for my

> ability to

> > > > think critically or live my own life, but I intend to do just

> that.

> > > >

> > > > I look forward to getting to know everyone.

> > > >

> > > > Fred

> > > >

> > >

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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Apple,

Maybe we can rally support from Ragge, Trimpey, Bufe, and others. With

enough people contributing it would reduce costs considerably. I think

many would find the idea irresistable. What a great way to start the

millenium.

AppleDTP@... wrote:

>

> , you are truly sick, that's what I like about you. Maybe I'll

> check the cost of skywriting. I could empty out my 401-k for the first

> prank of the century.

> Apple

>

> > Hey Apple,

> > I know the exploding medallion bit is a joke, but seriously how about

> > really hiring a plane to tow a banner with an appropriate message like

> > " AA not working? Visit aadeprogramming.com " I see them all the time

> at

> > ball games and they always get my attention. It gets the message

> across

> > without the horrible aftertaste that would come from the numerous

> > caustic exchanges with AA hard-liners should you have a booth instead.

> > It would totally avoid any needless abuse and reach the whole dang

> hive

> > to boot.

> >

> > I can see it now. It's the Sunday Morning Closing Meeting at the

> > Metrodome Stadium in Minneapolis Minnesota on July 2nd. 2000. A moment

> > of silence is being reverently observed for the alcoholic who still

> > suffers. Then from the distance the whine of a small aircraft engine

> > pierces the calm. Growing louder still, 60,000 heads pivot to engage

> > the source of the unwanted interruption. The congregation gasps as one

> > as the offending message is absorbed.

> >

> > The crowd develops a huge resentment as the continuing whine of the

> > aircraft overhead serves to add to their irritation. The keynote

> speaker

> > attempts to calm the crowd with a timely recitation of the Serenity

> > Prayer while simultaneously visualizing anti aircraft turrets around

> the

> > perimeter of the stadium blasting the intruder from the sky. The moral

> > high ground and serenity of the Sunday Morning Big Book Revival

> Meeting

> > is lost. The 2000 Convention is ruined.

> >

> > Metrodome Stadium having emptied out, dejected volunteers wearing

> > T-Shirts earned for their selfless service to the AA cause pick up the

> > remaining debris and contemplate the slogan imprinted on their

> hallowed

> > garments. PASS IT ON- INTO THE 21st. CENTURY

> > Too bad it was fumbled on the one yard line.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi Fred:

> > > Welcome to the list. Some people are taking vacations so the list

> > > isn't too active right now, but please don't be discouraged. Maybe

> > > they'll come out of the woodwork. I'm happy to meet one more person

> > > with common sense who is not fodder for the regime.

> > > I'm currently working on a project with a metal-smith to manufacture

> > > exploding medallions - (10 years and up) in order to help subvert

> the

> > > movement. I'm also considering hiring a skywriter plane to fly over

> > > the upcoming AA world convention (to be scheduled in Indiana), with

> an

> > > appropriate message of some sort.

> > >

> > > Curious about two things... where is this NA meeting you describe?

> > > Which city? Is it listed on the directory?

> > >

> > > The other... I knew a really appealing man named Fred from the 12

> step

> > > groups in my area. You don't happen to manufacture something that

> has

> > > to do with fish tanks do you? It's a long shot, but hey, I had to

> ask.

> > > Apple

> > > >

> > > > Hey people,

> > > >

> > > > I just subscribed after being referred by a friend who shares my

> > > > inability, despite years of trying, to accept the 12-step

> ideology.

> > > > Despite this I've stayed clean over nine years, which should come

> as a

> > > > surprise only to those brain-washed by THE PROGRAM. My

> objections to

> > > > it can be summed up by saying that it's authoritarian and

> religious,

> > > > both of which are repugnant to me. Still, I've attended NA

> meetings

> > > > consistently, as programmed to do in treatment, because I didn't

> want

> > > > to return to the life I'd been leading and I'd

> > > > been warned repeatedly that failure to do so would result in

> relapse

> > > > and death.

> > > > I go, keep my mouth shut, and leave feeling even worse because of

> > > being

> > > > subjected to a barrage of dogma that contradicts my most basic

> > > beliefs,

> > > > such as the ability of humans to be free and to follow their own

> > > > conscience. The 12-step fanatics heap scorn on the notion that an

> > > > addict is capable of doing anything other than use drugs and die

> > > unless

> > > > he accepts their tutelage. Lately I've been attending an NA

> meeting

> > > > started by people who question the NA program, where I feel able

> to

> > > > share honestly and where I can define for myself why and how I'll

> stay

> > > > clean and live my life, something impossible in most meetings,

> where

> > > > the emphasis is on conforming to truths laid down years ago in

> some

> > > > text (and possibly divine in origin). This is both liberating and

> > > > difficult, as years in the program have done nothing for my

> ability to

> > > > think critically or live my own life, but I intend to do just

> that.

> > > >

> > > > I look forward to getting to know everyone.

> > > >

> > > > Fred

> > > >

> > >

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> eGroups.com home: /group/12-step-free

> - Simplifying group communications

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Apple,

Maybe we can rally support from Ragge, Trimpey, Bufe, and others. With

enough people contributing it would reduce costs considerably. I think

many would find the idea irresistable. What a great way to start the

millenium.

AppleDTP@... wrote:

>

> , you are truly sick, that's what I like about you. Maybe I'll

> check the cost of skywriting. I could empty out my 401-k for the first

> prank of the century.

> Apple

>

> > Hey Apple,

> > I know the exploding medallion bit is a joke, but seriously how about

> > really hiring a plane to tow a banner with an appropriate message like

> > " AA not working? Visit aadeprogramming.com " I see them all the time

> at

> > ball games and they always get my attention. It gets the message

> across

> > without the horrible aftertaste that would come from the numerous

> > caustic exchanges with AA hard-liners should you have a booth instead.

> > It would totally avoid any needless abuse and reach the whole dang

> hive

> > to boot.

> >

> > I can see it now. It's the Sunday Morning Closing Meeting at the

> > Metrodome Stadium in Minneapolis Minnesota on July 2nd. 2000. A moment

> > of silence is being reverently observed for the alcoholic who still

> > suffers. Then from the distance the whine of a small aircraft engine

> > pierces the calm. Growing louder still, 60,000 heads pivot to engage

> > the source of the unwanted interruption. The congregation gasps as one

> > as the offending message is absorbed.

> >

> > The crowd develops a huge resentment as the continuing whine of the

> > aircraft overhead serves to add to their irritation. The keynote

> speaker

> > attempts to calm the crowd with a timely recitation of the Serenity

> > Prayer while simultaneously visualizing anti aircraft turrets around

> the

> > perimeter of the stadium blasting the intruder from the sky. The moral

> > high ground and serenity of the Sunday Morning Big Book Revival

> Meeting

> > is lost. The 2000 Convention is ruined.

> >

> > Metrodome Stadium having emptied out, dejected volunteers wearing

> > T-Shirts earned for their selfless service to the AA cause pick up the

> > remaining debris and contemplate the slogan imprinted on their

> hallowed

> > garments. PASS IT ON- INTO THE 21st. CENTURY

> > Too bad it was fumbled on the one yard line.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi Fred:

> > > Welcome to the list. Some people are taking vacations so the list

> > > isn't too active right now, but please don't be discouraged. Maybe

> > > they'll come out of the woodwork. I'm happy to meet one more person

> > > with common sense who is not fodder for the regime.

> > > I'm currently working on a project with a metal-smith to manufacture

> > > exploding medallions - (10 years and up) in order to help subvert

> the

> > > movement. I'm also considering hiring a skywriter plane to fly over

> > > the upcoming AA world convention (to be scheduled in Indiana), with

> an

> > > appropriate message of some sort.

> > >

> > > Curious about two things... where is this NA meeting you describe?

> > > Which city? Is it listed on the directory?

> > >

> > > The other... I knew a really appealing man named Fred from the 12

> step

> > > groups in my area. You don't happen to manufacture something that

> has

> > > to do with fish tanks do you? It's a long shot, but hey, I had to

> ask.

> > > Apple

> > > >

> > > > Hey people,

> > > >

> > > > I just subscribed after being referred by a friend who shares my

> > > > inability, despite years of trying, to accept the 12-step

> ideology.

> > > > Despite this I've stayed clean over nine years, which should come

> as a

> > > > surprise only to those brain-washed by THE PROGRAM. My

> objections to

> > > > it can be summed up by saying that it's authoritarian and

> religious,

> > > > both of which are repugnant to me. Still, I've attended NA

> meetings

> > > > consistently, as programmed to do in treatment, because I didn't

> want

> > > > to return to the life I'd been leading and I'd

> > > > been warned repeatedly that failure to do so would result in

> relapse

> > > > and death.

> > > > I go, keep my mouth shut, and leave feeling even worse because of

> > > being

> > > > subjected to a barrage of dogma that contradicts my most basic

> > > beliefs,

> > > > such as the ability of humans to be free and to follow their own

> > > > conscience. The 12-step fanatics heap scorn on the notion that an

> > > > addict is capable of doing anything other than use drugs and die

> > > unless

> > > > he accepts their tutelage. Lately I've been attending an NA

> meeting

> > > > started by people who question the NA program, where I feel able

> to

> > > > share honestly and where I can define for myself why and how I'll

> stay

> > > > clean and live my life, something impossible in most meetings,

> where

> > > > the emphasis is on conforming to truths laid down years ago in

> some

> > > > text (and possibly divine in origin). This is both liberating and

> > > > difficult, as years in the program have done nothing for my

> ability to

> > > > think critically or live my own life, but I intend to do just

> that.

> > > >

> > > > I look forward to getting to know everyone.

> > > >

> > > > Fred

> > > >

> > >

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> eGroups.com home: /group/12-step-free

> - Simplifying group communications

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Good idea, also, I could always carry around a small pile of 'em, and

stick them between the pages of recovery books in bookstores.

The possibilities are endless. They are small & very portable which

makes for ease of use.

Apple

> Hey Apple,

> I like the business card idea. Very low cost. We could go to the

parking

> lots of large speaker meetings and put them on the windshields of cars

> tucked under a windshield wiper. We wouldn't even have to attend the

> meeting. You could do such a happening full color card with the

> brainwashed guy trademark and the " it's time to get your brain out of

> hock " tag line. Kind of a mini emulation of your home page.

>

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I'd still like to see one of Joe's famous form letters then, because

they're so damn funny. (remember the panty ammends letter Joe?) I

dont' know why our cause is so misunderstood. Do people really think

we're trying to hurt alcoholics? What a friggin' misconception...

Apple

>

> I wouldn't want to encourage one of those for several reasonsd -

our

> " cause " has a strong lack of popularity and lack of understanding. Of

> thse who 'know' (or claim to know) anything about alcoholism, we're

> outnumbered. If anything, it would be likely to prompt some stepper to

> generate a pro-aa chain letter which would much more popular than the

one

> that anyone here would start.

> Another is that some netizens consider such letters to be email

abuse,

> almost as bad as the " kidney harvesting " warnings or " forward this

> Windows 2000 test message, and when 1000 people have received it Bill

Gates

> will send you $1000 " hoaxes. (see the Gullibility Virus on my web

page:

> <http://www.mindspring.com/~benbradley> - I noticed earlier this

evening

> that the listen.to forwarding address wasn't working.)

> But this would be an ideal thing for people to sign up for on a

website,

> such as on aadeprogramming.com. I know I've sent GSO checks for $2 to

$7

> for my second through seventh AA sobriety anniversaries. But then

that's

> nothing compared to at least 1000 AA meetings (and a few hundred at

several

> other 12-step 'fellowships') at a dollar each.

>

> -----

> http://listen.to/benbradley

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I'd still like to see one of Joe's famous form letters then, because

they're so damn funny. (remember the panty ammends letter Joe?) I

dont' know why our cause is so misunderstood. Do people really think

we're trying to hurt alcoholics? What a friggin' misconception...

Apple

>

> I wouldn't want to encourage one of those for several reasonsd -

our

> " cause " has a strong lack of popularity and lack of understanding. Of

> thse who 'know' (or claim to know) anything about alcoholism, we're

> outnumbered. If anything, it would be likely to prompt some stepper to

> generate a pro-aa chain letter which would much more popular than the

one

> that anyone here would start.

> Another is that some netizens consider such letters to be email

abuse,

> almost as bad as the " kidney harvesting " warnings or " forward this

> Windows 2000 test message, and when 1000 people have received it Bill

Gates

> will send you $1000 " hoaxes. (see the Gullibility Virus on my web

page:

> <http://www.mindspring.com/~benbradley> - I noticed earlier this

evening

> that the listen.to forwarding address wasn't working.)

> But this would be an ideal thing for people to sign up for on a

website,

> such as on aadeprogramming.com. I know I've sent GSO checks for $2 to

$7

> for my second through seventh AA sobriety anniversaries. But then

that's

> nothing compared to at least 1000 AA meetings (and a few hundred at

several

> other 12-step 'fellowships') at a dollar each.

>

> -----

> http://listen.to/benbradley

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At 01:03 AM 8/31/99 -0700, AppleDTP@... wrote:

>I'd still like to see one of Joe's famous form letters then, because

>they're so damn funny. (remember the panty ammends letter Joe?) I

The believers' reaction may be 'of course these may seem like stupid

amends, but as the big book says, this is life and death...'

>dont' know why our cause is so misunderstood. Do people really think

>we're trying to hurt alcoholics? What a friggin' misconception...

>Apple

If you believe as deeply as many do that that AA is the only thing that

can save the lives of alcoholics, then anything that tries to lead them

away from AA is dangerous and deadly.

-----

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At 01:03 AM 8/31/99 -0700, AppleDTP@... wrote:

>I'd still like to see one of Joe's famous form letters then, because

>they're so damn funny. (remember the panty ammends letter Joe?) I

The believers' reaction may be 'of course these may seem like stupid

amends, but as the big book says, this is life and death...'

>dont' know why our cause is so misunderstood. Do people really think

>we're trying to hurt alcoholics? What a friggin' misconception...

>Apple

If you believe as deeply as many do that that AA is the only thing that

can save the lives of alcoholics, then anything that tries to lead them

away from AA is dangerous and deadly.

-----

http://listen.to/benbradley

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At 01:03 AM 8/31/99 -0700, AppleDTP@... wrote:

>I'd still like to see one of Joe's famous form letters then, because

>they're so damn funny. (remember the panty ammends letter Joe?) I

The believers' reaction may be 'of course these may seem like stupid

amends, but as the big book says, this is life and death...'

>dont' know why our cause is so misunderstood. Do people really think

>we're trying to hurt alcoholics? What a friggin' misconception...

>Apple

If you believe as deeply as many do that that AA is the only thing that

can save the lives of alcoholics, then anything that tries to lead them

away from AA is dangerous and deadly.

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http://listen.to/benbradley

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My husband's boss just bought the building that has one of 'those rooms' that

is used twice a week for meetings I could probably get some pamphlets in, I

would be willing to put the pamphlets in other meetings. I could sneak them

in with the donuts, or I could mail them to everyone with a DWI arrest. Their

names and addresses are printed in the paper and televised on the local

network. I would love to do something constructive.

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If everyone handled the printing costs for just their area it wouldn't cost

too much, maybe KINKO could be convinced that this is a type of charity and

donate some printing. I don't know how to use it but I believe I have the

software to do some printing at home, I could get my kids to fold and staple.

You get me the info and I'll get it out to the 'still suffering'.

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OH, the potential.... hee hee hee

Apple

appledt-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=7897

> My husband's boss just bought the building that has one of 'those

rooms' that

> is used twice a week for meetings I could probably get some pamphlets

in, I

> would be willing to put the pamphlets in other meetings. I could

sneak them

> in with the donuts, or I could mail them to everyone with a DWI

arrest. Their

> names and addresses are printed in the paper and televised on the

local

> network. I would love to do something constructive.

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Hi there... I've decided on decals that are hard to peel off. They can

be placed in Big Books, other recovery books and on phone booths

outside of meetings.

Apple

appledt-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=7898

> If everyone handled the printing costs for just their area it

wouldn't cost

> too much, maybe KINKO could be convinced that this is a type of

charity and

> donate some printing. I don't know how to use it but I believe I

have the

> software to do some printing at home, I could get my kids to fold and

staple.

> You get me the info and I'll get it out to the 'still suffering'.

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Hi there... I've decided on decals that are hard to peel off. They can

be placed in Big Books, other recovery books and on phone booths

outside of meetings.

Apple

appledt-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=7898

> If everyone handled the printing costs for just their area it

wouldn't cost

> too much, maybe KINKO could be convinced that this is a type of

charity and

> donate some printing. I don't know how to use it but I believe I

have the

> software to do some printing at home, I could get my kids to fold and

staple.

> You get me the info and I'll get it out to the 'still suffering'.

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Hi there... I've decided on decals that are hard to peel off. They can

be placed in Big Books, other recovery books and on phone booths

outside of meetings.

Apple

appledt-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=7898

> If everyone handled the printing costs for just their area it

wouldn't cost

> too much, maybe KINKO could be convinced that this is a type of

charity and

> donate some printing. I don't know how to use it but I believe I

have the

> software to do some printing at home, I could get my kids to fold and

staple.

> You get me the info and I'll get it out to the 'still suffering'.

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