Re: reply on the diet and digestive enzymes

[Guest guest]

DeEtte,

Did you notice an increase in

ketones with the lethargy?

I'm so glad the D.enzymes are

helping . They are helping

Rohan too.

Saro

DeEtte Person wrote:

.. .lethargy, red

cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily!

[Guest guest]

DeEtte,

Did you notice an increase in

ketones with the lethargy?

I'm so glad the D.enzymes are

helping . They are helping

Rohan too.

Saro

DeEtte Person wrote:

.. .lethargy, red

cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily!

[Guest guest]

DeEtte,

Did you notice an increase in

ketones with the lethargy?

I'm so glad the D.enzymes are

helping . They are helping

Rohan too.

Saro

DeEtte Person wrote:

.. .lethargy, red

cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily!

[Guest guest]

Not really -- 's ketones have remained pretty

stable (light to medium in the morning and medium to

dark at night). I was using Multi-Stix which the

expiration date has run out on. . . need to get some

more Keto-Stix to get more exact readings. Unless we

have some kind of major shift, I haven't really been

checking regularly.--D

--- sanaljay wrote:

> DeEtte,

> Did you notice an increase in

> ketones with the lethargy?

> I'm so glad the D.enzymes are

> helping . They are helping

> Rohan too.

> Saro

>

>

> DeEtte Person wrote:

>

> > . .lethargy, red

> > cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily!

>

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Not really -- 's ketones have remained pretty

stable (light to medium in the morning and medium to

dark at night). I was using Multi-Stix which the

expiration date has run out on. . . need to get some

more Keto-Stix to get more exact readings. Unless we

have some kind of major shift, I haven't really been

checking regularly.--D

--- sanaljay wrote:

> DeEtte,

> Did you notice an increase in

> ketones with the lethargy?

> I'm so glad the D.enzymes are

> helping . They are helping

> Rohan too.

> Saro

>

>

> DeEtte Person wrote:

>

> > . .lethargy, red

> > cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily!

>

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Not really -- 's ketones have remained pretty

stable (light to medium in the morning and medium to

dark at night). I was using Multi-Stix which the

expiration date has run out on. . . need to get some

more Keto-Stix to get more exact readings. Unless we

have some kind of major shift, I haven't really been

checking regularly.--D

--- sanaljay wrote:

> DeEtte,

> Did you notice an increase in

> ketones with the lethargy?

> I'm so glad the D.enzymes are

> helping . They are helping

> Rohan too.

> Saro

>

>

> DeEtte Person wrote:

>

> > . .lethargy, red

> > cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily!

>

=====

DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures greatly

reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

" I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just wish he didn't

trust me so much. "

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

D,

I'd recommend giving her a little more than 2 weeks of seizure free

before changing anything. I'd give it a least a couple of months. Just

my .02 cents.

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte Person

writes:

> I posted a few days ago asking about digestive enzymes

> and the effect on the diet. Just thought I'd post my

> response from Devin Houston of Houston Nutraceuticals.

> We've been using their enzymes for about 2 weeks and

> have had good results, seizure-wise -- but it seems

> like the diet is in high gear. . .lethargy, red

> cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily! But. .

> .knocking on wood here. . .no seizures. So, I'm

> toying with the idea of lowering the ratio a tad.

> Anyway, this might give some clues as to how digestive

> enzymes could affect the diet (for the positive). Hope

> this is helpful to someone. By the way, I suggest

> checking out these enzymes or at least the web site --

> www.houstonni.com and the yahoo message board files --

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/enzymesandautism.

> There's really a wealth of info, including a good Q & A

> section and " success stories. " None with seizures per

> se, but many with autism and autistic behaviors.

>

> Here's Devin's reply to my question:

>

> DeEtte;

> As you and I talked about earlier, the lipase in the

> Zyme Prime will break down the triglycerides in the

> fat (which will be high in the keto diet) to

> short-chain fatty acids. Since the aim of the keto

> diet is to actually induce a state of metabolic

> acidosis (because epileptics tend to develop

> alkalosis,

> which inhibits nerve conduction), the increased

> production of fatty acids by lipase could be helping

> obtain the acid condition she needs. So, conceivably,

> an alteration in the diet might be needed.

> Devin

>

> In enzymesandautism@y..., DeEtte Person

> <annarebecca85259@y...>

> wrote:

> > started the Houstons Zyme-Prime a couple weeks

> > ago. She's also on the ketogenic diet. The really

> > good news is that at only 1/2 capsule with dinner

> thus far, the 2-3 seizures she was having per night

> have stopped cold turkey. I know enough to hold my

> breath -- but still it's been an amazing difference.

> The one thing I've noticed is that she's extremely

> lethargic. She's also had a lot more stimming, too

> (head banging, verbal stimming, sensory issues, etc.).

> I'm wondering if the enzymes could be helping her

> better metabolize the diet and if the effects of the

> diet (which can be lethargy) are actually becoming

> more pronounced. I can recalculate the diet at a

> lower ratio (less fat) -- but I'm trying to figure out

> if my theory makes any sense. I've also posed this

> question to my keto list -- you guys are the enzyme

> experts, they're the keto experts. . .if only I had

> someone who was an expert in both! Any thoughts?--D

> >

>

>

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures

> greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just

> wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

D,

I'd recommend giving her a little more than 2 weeks of seizure free

before changing anything. I'd give it a least a couple of months. Just

my .02 cents.

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte Person

writes:

> I posted a few days ago asking about digestive enzymes

> and the effect on the diet. Just thought I'd post my

> response from Devin Houston of Houston Nutraceuticals.

> We've been using their enzymes for about 2 weeks and

> have had good results, seizure-wise -- but it seems

> like the diet is in high gear. . .lethargy, red

> cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily! But. .

> .knocking on wood here. . .no seizures. So, I'm

> toying with the idea of lowering the ratio a tad.

> Anyway, this might give some clues as to how digestive

> enzymes could affect the diet (for the positive). Hope

> this is helpful to someone. By the way, I suggest

> checking out these enzymes or at least the web site --

> www.houstonni.com and the yahoo message board files --

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/enzymesandautism.

> There's really a wealth of info, including a good Q & A

> section and " success stories. " None with seizures per

> se, but many with autism and autistic behaviors.

>

> Here's Devin's reply to my question:

>

> DeEtte;

> As you and I talked about earlier, the lipase in the

> Zyme Prime will break down the triglycerides in the

> fat (which will be high in the keto diet) to

> short-chain fatty acids. Since the aim of the keto

> diet is to actually induce a state of metabolic

> acidosis (because epileptics tend to develop

> alkalosis,

> which inhibits nerve conduction), the increased

> production of fatty acids by lipase could be helping

> obtain the acid condition she needs. So, conceivably,

> an alteration in the diet might be needed.

> Devin

>

> In enzymesandautism@y..., DeEtte Person

> <annarebecca85259@y...>

> wrote:

> > started the Houstons Zyme-Prime a couple weeks

> > ago. She's also on the ketogenic diet. The really

> > good news is that at only 1/2 capsule with dinner

> thus far, the 2-3 seizures she was having per night

> have stopped cold turkey. I know enough to hold my

> breath -- but still it's been an amazing difference.

> The one thing I've noticed is that she's extremely

> lethargic. She's also had a lot more stimming, too

> (head banging, verbal stimming, sensory issues, etc.).

> I'm wondering if the enzymes could be helping her

> better metabolize the diet and if the effects of the

> diet (which can be lethargy) are actually becoming

> more pronounced. I can recalculate the diet at a

> lower ratio (less fat) -- but I'm trying to figure out

> if my theory makes any sense. I've also posed this

> question to my keto list -- you guys are the enzyme

> experts, they're the keto experts. . .if only I had

> someone who was an expert in both! Any thoughts?--D

> >

>

>

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures

> greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just

> wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

D,

I'd recommend giving her a little more than 2 weeks of seizure free

before changing anything. I'd give it a least a couple of months. Just

my .02 cents.

Kathy in Tennessee

Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free, seizures 95% reduced

Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

" Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am He who will sustain

you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will sustain you and I will

rescue you. "

Isaiah 46:4

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte Person

writes:

> I posted a few days ago asking about digestive enzymes

> and the effect on the diet. Just thought I'd post my

> response from Devin Houston of Houston Nutraceuticals.

> We've been using their enzymes for about 2 weeks and

> have had good results, seizure-wise -- but it seems

> like the diet is in high gear. . .lethargy, red

> cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily! But. .

> .knocking on wood here. . .no seizures. So, I'm

> toying with the idea of lowering the ratio a tad.

> Anyway, this might give some clues as to how digestive

> enzymes could affect the diet (for the positive). Hope

> this is helpful to someone. By the way, I suggest

> checking out these enzymes or at least the web site --

> www.houstonni.com and the yahoo message board files --

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/enzymesandautism.

> There's really a wealth of info, including a good Q & A

> section and " success stories. " None with seizures per

> se, but many with autism and autistic behaviors.

>

> Here's Devin's reply to my question:

>

> DeEtte;

> As you and I talked about earlier, the lipase in the

> Zyme Prime will break down the triglycerides in the

> fat (which will be high in the keto diet) to

> short-chain fatty acids. Since the aim of the keto

> diet is to actually induce a state of metabolic

> acidosis (because epileptics tend to develop

> alkalosis,

> which inhibits nerve conduction), the increased

> production of fatty acids by lipase could be helping

> obtain the acid condition she needs. So, conceivably,

> an alteration in the diet might be needed.

> Devin

>

> In enzymesandautism@y..., DeEtte Person

> <annarebecca85259@y...>

> wrote:

> > started the Houstons Zyme-Prime a couple weeks

> > ago. She's also on the ketogenic diet. The really

> > good news is that at only 1/2 capsule with dinner

> thus far, the 2-3 seizures she was having per night

> have stopped cold turkey. I know enough to hold my

> breath -- but still it's been an amazing difference.

> The one thing I've noticed is that she's extremely

> lethargic. She's also had a lot more stimming, too

> (head banging, verbal stimming, sensory issues, etc.).

> I'm wondering if the enzymes could be helping her

> better metabolize the diet and if the effects of the

> diet (which can be lethargy) are actually becoming

> more pronounced. I can recalculate the diet at a

> lower ratio (less fat) -- but I'm trying to figure out

> if my theory makes any sense. I've also posed this

> question to my keto list -- you guys are the enzyme

> experts, they're the keto experts. . .if only I had

> someone who was an expert in both! Any thoughts?--D

> >

>

>

>

> =====

> DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01, med-free, seizures

> greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

>

> " I know God would never give me more than I can handle. . .I just

> wish he didn't trust me so much. "

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Kathy. Just FYI, the reason I'm toying with

changing the ratio is not that we've had good seizure

control -- it's that 's again showing signs of

acidosis. . .all the things we experienced when she

began the diet -- irratibility, highly tactile

sensitive, lethargic, etc. I think that the enzymes

are helping her to digest her food so that she's

actually absorbing the benefits of the diet. And,

here's the weird thing -- since beginning the enzymes,

her hair is REALLY oily. It's bizarre. Anyway, we

walk a fine line here. I don't think we're going to

go seizure free with the diet alone. . . so we walk

the line between decent seizure control and ability to

be a happy, well-functioning child!--D

--- myketokid@... wrote:

> D,

> I'd recommend giving her a little more than 2 weeks

> of seizure free

> before changing anything. I'd give it a least a

> couple of months. Just

> my .02 cents.

> Kathy in Tennessee

> Mom to - 6 - Keto kid since 02/00, Med free,

> seizures 95% reduced

> Mom to 'lil sis, a - 3

> " Even to your old age and gray hairs I am He, I am

> He who will sustain

> you. I have made you and I will carry you; I will

> sustain you and I will

> rescue you. "

> Isaiah 46:4

>

>

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001 22:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DeEtte

> Person

> writes:

> > I posted a few days ago asking about digestive

> enzymes

> > and the effect on the diet. Just thought I'd post

> my

> > response from Devin Houston of Houston

> Nutraceuticals.

> > We've been using their enzymes for about 2 weeks

> and

> > have had good results, seizure-wise -- but it

> seems

> > like the diet is in high gear. . .lethargy, red

> > cheeks, irritable and her hair is really oily!

> But. .

> > .knocking on wood here. . .no seizures. So, I'm

> > toying with the idea of lowering the ratio a tad.

> > Anyway, this might give some clues as to how

> digestive

> > enzymes could affect the diet (for the positive).

> Hope

> > this is helpful to someone. By the way, I suggest

> > checking out these enzymes or at least the web

> site --

> > www.houstonni.com and the yahoo message board

> files --

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/enzymesandautism.

> > There's really a wealth of info, including a good

> Q & A

> > section and " success stories. " None with seizures

> per

> > se, but many with autism and autistic behaviors.

> >

> > Here's Devin's reply to my question:

> >

> > DeEtte;

> > As you and I talked about earlier, the lipase in

> the

> > Zyme Prime will break down the triglycerides in

> the

> > fat (which will be high in the keto diet) to

> > short-chain fatty acids. Since the aim of the

> keto

> > diet is to actually induce a state of metabolic

> > acidosis (because epileptics tend to develop

> > alkalosis,

> > which inhibits nerve conduction), the increased

> > production of fatty acids by lipase could be

> helping

> > obtain the acid condition she needs. So,

> conceivably,

> > an alteration in the diet might be needed.

> > Devin

> >

> > In enzymesandautism@y..., DeEtte Person

> > <annarebecca85259@y...>

> > wrote:

> > > started the Houstons Zyme-Prime a couple

> weeks

> > > ago. She's also on the ketogenic diet. The

> really

> > > good news is that at only 1/2 capsule with

> dinner

> > thus far, the 2-3 seizures she was having per

> night

> > have stopped cold turkey. I know enough to hold

> my

> > breath -- but still it's been an amazing

> difference.

> > The one thing I've noticed is that she's extremely

> > lethargic. She's also had a lot more stimming, too

> > (head banging, verbal stimming, sensory issues,

> etc.).

> > I'm wondering if the enzymes could be helping her

> > better metabolize the diet and if the effects of

> the

> > diet (which can be lethargy) are actually becoming

> > more pronounced. I can recalculate the diet at a

> > lower ratio (less fat) -- but I'm trying to figure

> out

> > if my theory makes any sense. I've also posed

> this

> > question to my keto list -- you guys are the

> enzyme

> > experts, they're the keto experts. . .if only I

> had

> > someone who was an expert in both! Any

> thoughts?--D

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > =====

> > DeEtte -- Mom to (, 6, keto-kid since 1/01,

> med-free, seizures

> > greatly reduced) and (, 4), sdale, AZ

> >

> > " I know God would never give me more than I can

> handle. . .I just

> > wish he didn't trust me so much. "

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >