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I am going to my neurosurgeon in August, and his blasted nurse is refusing to

provide me with an interpreter! I called a place Friday called Advocacy,

Inc. and they are supposed to help me. The guy at the interp. service said

that usually one call from this company is usually all it took to make a

doctor pay!!

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Barbara,

The NS nurse said that they did not have to do that because the

office was out of a school! Dr. Baskin is a professor from Baylor

College of Medicine in Houston. I was told this was ABSOLUTELY NOT

true and this Advocacy is supposed to call the doctor's office and

let them know that there would be grounds for me to sue if they

refuse to provide me with an interpreter. Thanks for your concern!!

Donna

> Donna,

>

> On what grounds did the NS's nurse refuse to get an interp? Don't

we have

> the ADA behind us, that clearly states she cannot do this?

>

> Barbara B.????

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Barbara,

The NS nurse said that they did not have to do that because the

office was out of a school! Dr. Baskin is a professor from Baylor

College of Medicine in Houston. I was told this was ABSOLUTELY NOT

true and this Advocacy is supposed to call the doctor's office and

let them know that there would be grounds for me to sue if they

refuse to provide me with an interpreter. Thanks for your concern!!

Donna

> Donna,

>

> On what grounds did the NS's nurse refuse to get an interp? Don't

we have

> the ADA behind us, that clearly states she cannot do this?

>

> Barbara B.????

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Hey peoples,

ok i am kinda lost on this. So Donna is haveing surgery and there

rufusing to give her a nurse that can sign right? Well i think thats a bunch

of grabage. how is she sapost to understad after surgery. i mean come on.

when you wake up you can hardly see, well thats my i dont know about you.

What is this why not just give her the nurse and make her life so much easer.

Sorry about the spelling or if iam not talking abuot the right thing

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Sally,

What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor and they

provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked for Dr.

Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

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Oh Donna, I forgot to tell you...I used to see Dr. Martuza at town

University and I always had an interpreter. Allbeit, at the beginning of

ADA, it used to be a lady from " records " who knew sign language. I think

(hope) they've improved!

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Hi guys,

I am totally deaf. I didn't have a nurse who could ign after

surgery. Family was there BUT we brought a dry eraser board with bright

markers cause it is true you can't focus real well after surgery. Nurses and

Dr's wrote to me on the board. When I was moved from ICU they had one on my

wall that everyone used. Noone made a fuss about actually the automatically

went to the wall when they came in.

Sara

Stinky though if requesting a Sign nurse or interpreter they are refusing I

thought that was sorta illegal now with ADA and all.

<< Hey peoples,

ok i am kinda lost on this. So Donna is haveing surgery and there

rufusing to give her a nurse that can sign right? Well i think thats a bunch

of grabage. how is she sapost to understad after surgery. i mean come on.

when you wake up you can hardly see, well thats my i dont know about you.

What is this why not just give her the nurse and make her life so much

easer.

Sorry about the spelling or if iam not talking abuot the right thing

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Just my opinion... Maybe this situation is saying something about the

DOCTOR more than it is the nurse. I mean it's not like it comes out of HER

money anyway she shouldn't give a crud. Ever think ole Baskin might not

like springing for the terp? If he's ok with it, then why isn't he

telling that nurse it's OK!? You know they have probably communicated

about the situation. My dr is also at a university, and I've been to three

appts there recently with interpreters waiting. One time the terp was late

and the nurse apologized to us over and over. Very very nice. I do know

of other drs I've had though that would probably not furnish (or not want

to) a terp. I think it says a lot about the Dr if the Nurse is denying you

the terp (especially when the disease we are seeing him for is what CAUSED

our deafness!) Why don't you go over her head and ask to speak to Dr.

Baskin and see how HE feels about it? If he's the one who doesn't want the

terp, maybe you should switch Dr's!!!! He can't be that great if he's not

doing this for you! Bedside manner in a way, ya know?

Carla kinda missin Donnahut these days

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> Sally,

>

> What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor and they

> provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked for Dr.

> Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

>

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Just my opinion... Maybe this situation is saying something about the

DOCTOR more than it is the nurse. I mean it's not like it comes out of HER

money anyway she shouldn't give a crud. Ever think ole Baskin might not

like springing for the terp? If he's ok with it, then why isn't he

telling that nurse it's OK!? You know they have probably communicated

about the situation. My dr is also at a university, and I've been to three

appts there recently with interpreters waiting. One time the terp was late

and the nurse apologized to us over and over. Very very nice. I do know

of other drs I've had though that would probably not furnish (or not want

to) a terp. I think it says a lot about the Dr if the Nurse is denying you

the terp (especially when the disease we are seeing him for is what CAUSED

our deafness!) Why don't you go over her head and ask to speak to Dr.

Baskin and see how HE feels about it? If he's the one who doesn't want the

terp, maybe you should switch Dr's!!!! He can't be that great if he's not

doing this for you! Bedside manner in a way, ya know?

Carla kinda missin Donnahut these days

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> Sally,

>

> What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor and they

> provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked for Dr.

> Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

>

> Donna

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Carla,

You didn't meet Dr. Baskin at the Symposium. When I told Ruth that I

had people questioning me at why I wanted to use him. she said that

these people had not HEARD him! He is a wonderful person with a

bedside manner to match. I believe Sandy is trying to save money for

the university. When I called the service to ask about my rights,

they told me the hardest people for them to collect money from were

doctors and lawyers! I have had my share of real a**holes, and Dr.

Baskin does not fit into this category. THAT is why I am blaming it

on the nurse! There is also another thing, a good bedside manner is

PREFERRED, but a skillful surgeon is the ultimate goal.

Donna

>

> > Sally,

> >

> > What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor

and they

> > provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked

for Dr.

> > Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

> >

> > Donna

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Carla,

You didn't meet Dr. Baskin at the Symposium. When I told Ruth that I

had people questioning me at why I wanted to use him. she said that

these people had not HEARD him! He is a wonderful person with a

bedside manner to match. I believe Sandy is trying to save money for

the university. When I called the service to ask about my rights,

they told me the hardest people for them to collect money from were

doctors and lawyers! I have had my share of real a**holes, and Dr.

Baskin does not fit into this category. THAT is why I am blaming it

on the nurse! There is also another thing, a good bedside manner is

PREFERRED, but a skillful surgeon is the ultimate goal.

Donna

>

> > Sally,

> >

> > What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor

and they

> > provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked

for Dr.

> > Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

> >

> > Donna

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GREAT, Donna ! You go girl !!

K.

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>Barbara,

>

>The NS nurse said that they did not have to do that because the

>office was out of a school! Dr. Baskin is a professor from Baylor

>College of Medicine in Houston. I was told this was ABSOLUTELY NOT

>true and this Advocacy is supposed to call the doctor's office and

>let them know that there would be grounds for me to sue if they

>refuse to provide me with an interpreter. Thanks for your concern!!

>

>Donna

>

>

>> Donna,

>>

>> On what grounds did the NS's nurse refuse to get an interp? Don't

>we have

>> the ADA behind us, that clearly states she cannot do this?

>>

>> Barbara B.????

>

>

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This is something I REALLY don't understand. Dr. Baskin SEEMS like

the type of doctor that would do ANYTHING for his patients. When I

was talking to Kim about him before I decided to go to him,

she was telling me about him staying late or working weekends to

accomadate her. Last time (and ONLY time) that I seen him this nurse

called at the last minute to tell him they would not pay for

the interpreter. told her to go ahead and order the

interpreter and that we would pay for her. Dr. Baskin was VERY

patient when I would not understand something or questioned what I

did understand. He just does not seem the type to refuse something

like this, and I don't believe he would hold it against me that I am

standing up for myself, you know?

Donna

> >> Donna,

> >>

> >> On what grounds did the NS's nurse refuse to get an interp?

Don't

> >we have

> >> the ADA behind us, that clearly states she cannot do this?

> >>

> >> Barbara B.????

> >

> >

> >

> >

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This is something I REALLY don't understand. Dr. Baskin SEEMS like

the type of doctor that would do ANYTHING for his patients. When I

was talking to Kim about him before I decided to go to him,

she was telling me about him staying late or working weekends to

accomadate her. Last time (and ONLY time) that I seen him this nurse

called at the last minute to tell him they would not pay for

the interpreter. told her to go ahead and order the

interpreter and that we would pay for her. Dr. Baskin was VERY

patient when I would not understand something or questioned what I

did understand. He just does not seem the type to refuse something

like this, and I don't believe he would hold it against me that I am

standing up for myself, you know?

Donna

> >> Donna,

> >>

> >> On what grounds did the NS's nurse refuse to get an interp?

Don't

> >we have

> >> the ADA behind us, that clearly states she cannot do this?

> >>

> >> Barbara B.????

> >

> >

> >

> >

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This is a good point. Go to the source instead of the messenger. What I

don't understand is that they had provided an interpreter for you before,

why aren't they providing one for you now? In the words of

Shakespear, " something's rotten in the state of Denmark. " Or Virginia, or

whatever state it this hospital is? =)

Another thing, the nurse mentions that the doctor is a professor in a

University Hospital. Since I'm assuming they're cooperating with ADA by-laws

and providing services for their deaf/Deaf student population, they should

be springing for the patients/clients also. After all, you guys are paying

the doctors, nurses, and interpreter's salary.

Mark

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Just my opinion... Maybe this situation is saying something about the

DOCTOR more than it is the nurse. I mean it's not like it comes out of HER

money anyway she shouldn't give a crud. Ever think ole Baskin might not

like springing for the terp? If he's ok with it, then why isn't he

telling that nurse it's OK!? You know they have probably communicated

about the situation. My dr is also at a university, and I've been to three

appts there recently with interpreters waiting. One time the terp was late

and the nurse apologized to us over and over. Very very nice. I do know

of other drs I've had though that would probably not furnish (or not want

to) a terp. I think it says a lot about the Dr if the Nurse is denying you

the terp (especially when the disease we are seeing him for is what CAUSED

our deafness!) Why don't you go over her head and ask to speak to Dr.

Baskin and see how HE feels about it? If he's the one who doesn't want the

terp, maybe you should switch Dr's!!!! He can't be that great if he's not

doing this for you! Bedside manner in a way, ya know?

Carla kinda missin Donnahut these days

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> Sally,

>

> What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor and they

> provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked for Dr.

> Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

>

> Donna

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Well ok, then I'd stop with the worrying and call Baskin, email him,

whatever. If he's this good, he'll tell that nurse to shut up and get you

a terp. End of story. Can't you reach him? Does he have email access?

Go to him, not the nurse. I had a GREAT surgeon with sorry bedside manner

and I think they're both pretty important. If I was refused a terp by

Baskin's nurse and he's a wonderful man like you say, I'd simply call him

because he will fix things in 2 seconds. Would kinda piss the nurse off

too, so you'd get to laugh about that too. There are a lot of great NS's

around. If you stay with him he certainly has the power to settle this

easily if he wants to. I'd do it just out of curiosity to make sure he is

Pro-Terp. Or go through the chain of commands, law suit talk, blah blah

blah, calling in outsiders.

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> Carla,

>

> You didn't meet Dr. Baskin at the Symposium. When I told Ruth that I

> had people questioning me at why I wanted to use him. she said that

> these people had not HEARD him! He is a wonderful person with a

> bedside manner to match. I believe Sandy is trying to save money for

> the university. When I called the service to ask about my rights,

> they told me the hardest people for them to collect money from were

> doctors and lawyers! I have had my share of real a**holes, and Dr.

> Baskin does not fit into this category. THAT is why I am blaming it

> on the nurse! There is also another thing, a good bedside manner is

> PREFERRED, but a skillful surgeon is the ultimate goal.

>

> Donna

>

>

> >

> > > Sally,

> > >

> > > What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor

> and they

> > > provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked

> for Dr.

> > > Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

> > >

> > > Donna

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Mark,

The state is Texas, and the reason I had an interpreter last time is

because WE paid for it! I requested one a full week before my

appointment, but the nurse waited until the day of the appointment to

call. Something is rotten alright!

Donna

>

> > Sally,

> >

> > What I don't get, this SAME nurse use to work for Lee's doctor

and they

> > provided me with an interpreter all the time! When she worked

for Dr.

> > Slopis, she used to be NICE!! Boy, something SURE happened!!

> >

> > Donna

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I got to agree with on this one. If I got tough with my surgeon ( if I

had one !! ) and I won against him, I'd be looking for a replacement real

fast !

Example ! After winning the TERP battle and bringing this Doc to the

attention of the authorities ( for which hes been investigated and put on

notice ) you go in for head or spine surgery, and come out with problems !!!

What next ? legal action against him because there's doubt about his

intentions during surgery ? Will he refuse to operate on you anyhow

because of the terp battle ? are you narrowing down your long term options

for the sake of a consultation ?

This is not a battle against a used car salesman, you've asked him to take

your life into his hands !

Its worth fighting for I agree, but not against this guy.

Ok Donna you can kick my butt now !

MARCUS

> Donna,

>

> i am completely 100% on you side, i think you shud have a terp if thats

wht

> you want, but i want your opinion on something. ok, now do you feel you

are

> going to cause bad vibes between you and this dr by demanding they

> accommodate you. this is so hard b/c i feel like yes we have the right

and

> the law backs it up, yet, would i want to cause even an inkling of ill

will

> on a neuro who may operate on my brain or spinal cord one day?

>

> i dont use a terp when i see my dr, only b/c i doubt id understand one! my

> dr is very patient and kind, he takes extra time and writes everything

down,

> to me this is better bc i now have a hard copy of wht he says. now if he

> didnt write there wud be a big problem though.

>

> >Barbara,

> >

> >The NS nurse said that they did not have to do that because the

> >office was out of a school! Dr. Baskin is a professor from Baylor

> >College of Medicine in Houston. I was told this was ABSOLUTELY NOT

> >true and this Advocacy is supposed to call the doctor's office and

> >let them know that there would be grounds for me to sue if they

> >refuse to provide me with an interpreter. Thanks for your concern!!

> >

> >Donna

> >

> >

> >> Donna,

> >>

> >> On what grounds did the NS's nurse refuse to get an interp? Don't

> >we have

> >> the ADA behind us, that clearly states she cannot do this?

> >>

> >> Barbara B.????

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Hi Greggy! So you really did join the crew! You are right, ebevery dr is

different. i GET HOSPITAL BILLS SEPARATLY FROM MY SURGEONS BILL (WHICH HE

USUALLY WRITES OFF AFTER INS PAYS). ack, caps, sorry, fingers slipped!

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Barbara,

I can understand what you are saying about not wanting to cause any ill

feelings between you and your doctor.

When I was 18 my doc messed up my leg pretty bad. Actually it was for a head

AN and he messed up my leg (his mistake). They said before surgery there was

like a 3% chance that something could go wrong with my back nerves. I guess

by sitting up for the surgery on heavy cushions, it could in some way press

upon my Siatic nerve. The nerve that runs from the sping all the way down

behind the legs.

I could not feel my legs for months, and could not move my left foot for 7

months. I had tons ot therapy and pain (felt like when you arm falls asleep

and is just waking up, that electric feeling). I had that feeling for months

on end.

Turns out I gave him the mentality that he is 'human'. He had told me before

surgery that something has the small possiblility of happening and it had.

But I wonder how many of the 'small' possibilities that happen to us all

????

My point to you is, even if you demand an interpreter, I wouldn't think that

would cause ill will with you and the doc. I would just think he'd view it

as

you exercising your rights. There is nothing wrong with that.

The other point to my story, then in 1994 I needed another surgery with the

same doc. My ins. would not cover it (HMO wanted me with a diff. neuro). So,

this doc PAID for the surgery himself, his bill and the hospital bill were

zero. My sister thought this was a cover up from 1988, but I thought since

all the trauma he had caused me from 1988 surgery with my legs, I thought he

was doing this as compensation for his human blooper. Do you guys think it

was a cover up?

Sally R.

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Sally,

" Absolution " would be a good word I would use to describe this.

Mark

My sister thought this was a cover up from 1988, but I thought since

all the trauma he had caused me from 1988 surgery with my legs, I thought he

was doing this as compensation for his human blooper. Do you guys think it

was a cover up?

Sally R.

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Yes, I joined the crew, again. :) Cinny, there must be a half dozen charges that are incurred in the OR during surgery. Not just your surgeon's. My neruo puts down the time he spent in the OR, then everyone else associated with the surgery, puts down their time and charge. Such as the anesthesiologist, charges for equipment, supplies, etc. The neuro's fee is but one part of it. Then, the hospital bills you too for the time of surgery as well as your room charge and on and on. I don't want to beat this this death but I'm just curious, cause a neuro can't swing that much clout at U of M! :)

BTW, when's the vegas trip??

Hi Greggy! So you really did join the crew! You are right, ebevery dr isdifferent. i GET HOSPITAL BILLS SEPARATLY FROM MY SURGEONS BILL (WHICH HEUSUALLY WRITES OFF AFTER INS PAYS). ack, caps, sorry, fingers slipped!- Re: Re: Donna's nurseBarbara,I can understand what you are saying about not wanting to cause any illfeelings between you and your doctor.When I was 18 my doc messed up my leg pretty bad. Actually it was for a headAN and he messed up my leg (his mistake). They said before surgery there waslike a 3% chance that something could go wrong with my back nerves. I guessby sitting up for the surgery on heavy cushions, it could in some way pressupon my Siatic nerve. The nerve that runs from the sping all the way downbehind the legs.I could not feel my legs for months, and could not move my left foot for 7months. I had tons ot therapy and pain (felt like when you arm falls asleepand is just waking up, that electric feeling). I had that feeling for monthson end.Turns out I gave him the mentality that he is 'human'. He had told me beforesurgery that something has the small possiblility of happening and it had.But I wonder how many of the 'small' possibilities that happen to us all????My point to you is, even if you demand an interpreter, I wouldn't think thatwould cause ill will with you and the doc. I would just think he'd view itasyou exercising your rights. There is nothing wrong with that.The other point to my story, then in 1994 I needed another surgery with thesame doc. My ins. would not cover it (HMO wanted me with a diff. neuro). So,this doc PAID for the surgery himself, his bill and the hospital bill werezero. My sister thought this was a cover up from 1988, but I thought sinceall the trauma he had caused me from 1988 surgery with my legs, I thought hewas doing this as compensation for his human blooper. Do you guys think itwas a cover up?Sally R.

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Yes, I joined the crew, again. :) Cinny, there must be a half dozen charges that are incurred in the OR during surgery. Not just your surgeon's. My neruo puts down the time he spent in the OR, then everyone else associated with the surgery, puts down their time and charge. Such as the anesthesiologist, charges for equipment, supplies, etc. The neuro's fee is but one part of it. Then, the hospital bills you too for the time of surgery as well as your room charge and on and on. I don't want to beat this this death but I'm just curious, cause a neuro can't swing that much clout at U of M! :)

BTW, when's the vegas trip??

Hi Greggy! So you really did join the crew! You are right, ebevery dr isdifferent. i GET HOSPITAL BILLS SEPARATLY FROM MY SURGEONS BILL (WHICH HEUSUALLY WRITES OFF AFTER INS PAYS). ack, caps, sorry, fingers slipped!- Re: Re: Donna's nurseBarbara,I can understand what you are saying about not wanting to cause any illfeelings between you and your doctor.When I was 18 my doc messed up my leg pretty bad. Actually it was for a headAN and he messed up my leg (his mistake). They said before surgery there waslike a 3% chance that something could go wrong with my back nerves. I guessby sitting up for the surgery on heavy cushions, it could in some way pressupon my Siatic nerve. The nerve that runs from the sping all the way downbehind the legs.I could not feel my legs for months, and could not move my left foot for 7months. I had tons ot therapy and pain (felt like when you arm falls asleepand is just waking up, that electric feeling). I had that feeling for monthson end.Turns out I gave him the mentality that he is 'human'. He had told me beforesurgery that something has the small possiblility of happening and it had.But I wonder how many of the 'small' possibilities that happen to us all????My point to you is, even if you demand an interpreter, I wouldn't think thatwould cause ill will with you and the doc. I would just think he'd view itasyou exercising your rights. There is nothing wrong with that.The other point to my story, then in 1994 I needed another surgery with thesame doc. My ins. would not cover it (HMO wanted me with a diff. neuro). So,this doc PAID for the surgery himself, his bill and the hospital bill werezero. My sister thought this was a cover up from 1988, but I thought sinceall the trauma he had caused me from 1988 surgery with my legs, I thought hewas doing this as compensation for his human blooper. Do you guys think itwas a cover up?Sally R.

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In a message dated 08/09/2000 10:44:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Marsha@... writes:

Hiya ,

I hate to burst your bubble, but Dr Martuza is no longer at town (I

heard that he's back in Massachusetts). I have never seen Dr. at

town. I've had all brain surgeries thus far. But I do have some small

growths on the spainal cord. So, thanks for the vote of confidence :o)

June

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I went to town for my spinal surgery. I had Dr. . Martuza

assisted. Aren't they great?! I love it there.

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June,

I went to town for my spinal surgery. I had Dr. . Martuza

assisted. Aren't they great?! I love it there.

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>Oh Donna, I forgot to tell you...I used to see Dr. Martuza at town

>University and I always had an interpreter. Allbeit, at the beginning of

>ADA, it used to be a lady from " records " who knew sign language. I think

>(hope) they've improved!

>

>June

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JUNE !!!

Have you ever noticed you have a VERY bad habit of bursting bubbles ???

Would somebody please send June one of those kids bubble wands !!

June I want you to promise me you'll use it every day, we'll have you cured

in no time .

PS. Is CURED the correct spelling ? Is that CURED like 'getting better' or

CURED like HAM ????

hehe

STAY AWAY FROM BALLOONS TOO !!! Marcus

Re: Re: Donna's nurse

> In a message dated 08/09/2000 10:44:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Marsha@... writes:

>

> Hiya ,

>

> I hate to burst your bubble, but Dr Martuza is no longer at town (I

> heard that he's back in Massachusetts). I have never seen Dr.

at

> town. I've had all brain surgeries thus far. But I do have some

small

> growths on the spainal cord. So, thanks for the vote of confidence :o)

>

> June

>

> << June,

>

> I went to town for my spinal surgery. I had Dr. .

Martuza

> assisted. Aren't they great?! I love it there.

>

> >>

>

>

>

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