Re: Metabolism of a Slug

[Guest guest]

Boy bone structure makes a big difference. I am adopted so my sister is English

and German while I am Irish. She is 5'9 with a small frame. I am 5'4 with a

large frame. My goal weight is 165. She weighs 122. Such is life.

Metabolism of a Slug

Hey Bev!

You're 5'8 with a goal of 135??? I'm 5'10... at 175 I look like a walking

skeleton and am sickly all the time. I have BIG bones. Size 10-11 narrow

foot. At 220 I feel pretty darn good.... My body mass was so dense that

even at 277 (I held that for the last five years I was lifting then

started dropping weight when my storm hit) I was routinely guessed at 100

pounds less.

Anyway, our math is a bit different.....

Keeping in mind that losing more than 1% of your body weight a week also

triggers your body into storage mode you shouldn't aim toward losing more

than a bit over 1 pound a week. 135 X 15 is 2160... we trim off 500 from

that for a 1 lb per week loss (for a 'normal' person). That leaves you

with 1660....

Now, lets whack some off for lower metabolism at call it an even 1500.

[Guest guest]

Boy bone structure makes a big difference. I am adopted so my sister is English

and German while I am Irish. She is 5'9 with a small frame. I am 5'4 with a

large frame. My goal weight is 165. She weighs 122. Such is life.

Metabolism of a Slug

Hey Bev!

You're 5'8 with a goal of 135??? I'm 5'10... at 175 I look like a walking

skeleton and am sickly all the time. I have BIG bones. Size 10-11 narrow

foot. At 220 I feel pretty darn good.... My body mass was so dense that

even at 277 (I held that for the last five years I was lifting then

started dropping weight when my storm hit) I was routinely guessed at 100

pounds less.

Anyway, our math is a bit different.....

Keeping in mind that losing more than 1% of your body weight a week also

triggers your body into storage mode you shouldn't aim toward losing more

than a bit over 1 pound a week. 135 X 15 is 2160... we trim off 500 from

that for a 1 lb per week loss (for a 'normal' person). That leaves you

with 1660....

Now, lets whack some off for lower metabolism at call it an even 1500.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Like I said, I am butting into your deal!... BUT... You would

have to eat 6600 calories more than you burn to gain 2 lbs , or 16500

to gain 5 lbs... I have the same super slow metabo that you have. I

would think most of us here do... but this is really simple math...

if you are eating 800-1200 calories a day, and even if you are

burning ZERO, it would take 2-4 days to gain a pound... and it does

take calories to live, and think, and have a heart beat... so my

point was a BODY image point of view... if you obsess over the scale

you will spend a lot of time upset and thinking you are a failure...

JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

Bobby

> Hi Bobby and EveryOne,

>

> Yup, I've heard that one too: " Throw away the scale, or don't weigh

yourself

> every day " .

>

> That may work for some people but it certainly didn't work for me.

It was

> during the years that I didn't even own a scale that I gained all

the weight

>

>

> Up until I went hypothyroid my body just maintained the right

weight for me

> no matter how much I ate, scale or no scale. I never really paid

much

> attention and figured my body knew what it was doing. Well all of a

sudden

> it didn't seem to know any more. I gained pound after pound and for

quite

> awhile trusted that my body was making some kind of adjustment and

then

> would stop. It didn't stop!

>

> When I realized that my body was putting on weight no end in site,

I bought

> a scale: took off thirty pounds, and felt a lot better for it. Now

I am on

> the last of the weight I have to lose. Everything is different now

then it

> used to be before hypo: now I gain weight so fast that if I don't

watch it

> every day I can gain two pounds per day, five per week. It takes

me two

> weeks to take off two pounds I don't want to have to do that again

and again

>

>

> For me, the constant reinforcement of the scale and the diet power

program

> works. I have never dieted in my life before now, was always thin,

and I

> need the feedback of the scale and diet power program to know right

away

> what is happening. It is so hard to lose weight for me, usually a

few ounces

> a day, but so very easy to gain it. I don't want to go through

that again

> ever...........my intention is to reach my ideal weight and

maintain it. Not

> easy but easier than gaining and losing.. then I will use the scale

to make

> sure I am keeping to my " set point " to maintain my weight.

>

> One man's nectar is another man's poison. We each have to find what

works

> for us and use it. It is wonderful to share ideas and it helps a

lot. I am

> trying to incorporate what I can of Topper's ideas into my program,

> especially eating a little bit every so often. I have learned so

much from

> the folks on this list. In the end though, we have to take what

works for us

> and just do it!

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Like I said, I am butting into your deal!... BUT... You would

have to eat 6600 calories more than you burn to gain 2 lbs , or 16500

to gain 5 lbs... I have the same super slow metabo that you have. I

would think most of us here do... but this is really simple math...

if you are eating 800-1200 calories a day, and even if you are

burning ZERO, it would take 2-4 days to gain a pound... and it does

take calories to live, and think, and have a heart beat... so my

point was a BODY image point of view... if you obsess over the scale

you will spend a lot of time upset and thinking you are a failure...

JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

Bobby

> Hi Bobby and EveryOne,

>

> Yup, I've heard that one too: " Throw away the scale, or don't weigh

yourself

> every day " .

>

> That may work for some people but it certainly didn't work for me.

It was

> during the years that I didn't even own a scale that I gained all

the weight

>

>

> Up until I went hypothyroid my body just maintained the right

weight for me

> no matter how much I ate, scale or no scale. I never really paid

much

> attention and figured my body knew what it was doing. Well all of a

sudden

> it didn't seem to know any more. I gained pound after pound and for

quite

> awhile trusted that my body was making some kind of adjustment and

then

> would stop. It didn't stop!

>

> When I realized that my body was putting on weight no end in site,

I bought

> a scale: took off thirty pounds, and felt a lot better for it. Now

I am on

> the last of the weight I have to lose. Everything is different now

then it

> used to be before hypo: now I gain weight so fast that if I don't

watch it

> every day I can gain two pounds per day, five per week. It takes

me two

> weeks to take off two pounds I don't want to have to do that again

and again

>

>

> For me, the constant reinforcement of the scale and the diet power

program

> works. I have never dieted in my life before now, was always thin,

and I

> need the feedback of the scale and diet power program to know right

away

> what is happening. It is so hard to lose weight for me, usually a

few ounces

> a day, but so very easy to gain it. I don't want to go through

that again

> ever...........my intention is to reach my ideal weight and

maintain it. Not

> easy but easier than gaining and losing.. then I will use the scale

to make

> sure I am keeping to my " set point " to maintain my weight.

>

> One man's nectar is another man's poison. We each have to find what

works

> for us and use it. It is wonderful to share ideas and it helps a

lot. I am

> trying to incorporate what I can of Topper's ideas into my program,

> especially eating a little bit every so often. I have learned so

much from

> the folks on this list. In the end though, we have to take what

works for us

> and just do it!

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Like I said, I am butting into your deal!... BUT... You would

have to eat 6600 calories more than you burn to gain 2 lbs , or 16500

to gain 5 lbs... I have the same super slow metabo that you have. I

would think most of us here do... but this is really simple math...

if you are eating 800-1200 calories a day, and even if you are

burning ZERO, it would take 2-4 days to gain a pound... and it does

take calories to live, and think, and have a heart beat... so my

point was a BODY image point of view... if you obsess over the scale

you will spend a lot of time upset and thinking you are a failure...

JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

Bobby

> Hi Bobby and EveryOne,

>

> Yup, I've heard that one too: " Throw away the scale, or don't weigh

yourself

> every day " .

>

> That may work for some people but it certainly didn't work for me.

It was

> during the years that I didn't even own a scale that I gained all

the weight

>

>

> Up until I went hypothyroid my body just maintained the right

weight for me

> no matter how much I ate, scale or no scale. I never really paid

much

> attention and figured my body knew what it was doing. Well all of a

sudden

> it didn't seem to know any more. I gained pound after pound and for

quite

> awhile trusted that my body was making some kind of adjustment and

then

> would stop. It didn't stop!

>

> When I realized that my body was putting on weight no end in site,

I bought

> a scale: took off thirty pounds, and felt a lot better for it. Now

I am on

> the last of the weight I have to lose. Everything is different now

then it

> used to be before hypo: now I gain weight so fast that if I don't

watch it

> every day I can gain two pounds per day, five per week. It takes

me two

> weeks to take off two pounds I don't want to have to do that again

and again

>

>

> For me, the constant reinforcement of the scale and the diet power

program

> works. I have never dieted in my life before now, was always thin,

and I

> need the feedback of the scale and diet power program to know right

away

> what is happening. It is so hard to lose weight for me, usually a

few ounces

> a day, but so very easy to gain it. I don't want to go through

that again

> ever...........my intention is to reach my ideal weight and

maintain it. Not

> easy but easier than gaining and losing.. then I will use the scale

to make

> sure I am keeping to my " set point " to maintain my weight.

>

> One man's nectar is another man's poison. We each have to find what

works

> for us and use it. It is wonderful to share ideas and it helps a

lot. I am

> trying to incorporate what I can of Topper's ideas into my program,

> especially eating a little bit every so often. I have learned so

much from

> the folks on this list. In the end though, we have to take what

works for us

> and just do it!

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

[Guest guest]

Hi there Bobby! I am like Bev. I prefer to go by the scales. But

it's not obsession and that may be where " semantics " is a problem--

going by the scale for some of us is just a guide and a goal that

one can observe, along with other guides such as measurements, how

things fit, etc.

Janie )

>... if you obsess over the scale you will spend a lot of time

upset and thinking you are a failure...

> JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

>

> Bobby

[Guest guest]

Hi there Bobby! I am like Bev. I prefer to go by the scales. But

it's not obsession and that may be where " semantics " is a problem--

going by the scale for some of us is just a guide and a goal that

one can observe, along with other guides such as measurements, how

things fit, etc.

Janie )

>... if you obsess over the scale you will spend a lot of time

upset and thinking you are a failure...

> JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

>

> Bobby

[Guest guest]

Hi there Bobby! I am like Bev. I prefer to go by the scales. But

it's not obsession and that may be where " semantics " is a problem--

going by the scale for some of us is just a guide and a goal that

one can observe, along with other guides such as measurements, how

things fit, etc.

Janie )

>... if you obsess over the scale you will spend a lot of time

upset and thinking you are a failure...

> JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

>

> Bobby

[Guest guest]

One example of a person with a metabolism of a slug vs. one who is

not: my husband and I can eat the exact same meal, with the exact

same hunger at the beginning. Two hours later, I am still full. HE,

on the other hand, is STARVING!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh

Bev, does that describe you in comparison to any others you know??

Janie

[Guest guest]

One example of a person with a metabolism of a slug vs. one who is

not: my husband and I can eat the exact same meal, with the exact

same hunger at the beginning. Two hours later, I am still full. HE,

on the other hand, is STARVING!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh

Bev, does that describe you in comparison to any others you know??

Janie

[Guest guest]

One example of a person with a metabolism of a slug vs. one who is

not: my husband and I can eat the exact same meal, with the exact

same hunger at the beginning. Two hours later, I am still full. HE,

on the other hand, is STARVING!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh

Bev, does that describe you in comparison to any others you know??

Janie

[Guest guest]

I tend to think that a lot of the rapid weight jumps may have a lot to do

with the body being slow in processing that big meal and the water weight

that can build up when the system is off kilter....

One of the things that I've noticed as I've been dropping weight is

increased frequency in emptying my bladder.... I've heard that we store a

lot more water than 'normal' folks and that's one of the things that we

start shedding as our bodies balance out.....

..... I modeled my leather jacket for Ruth (she lives here with me and my

pop and has been gone for the last five weeks) She was with me when the

jacket was given to me and knows that it was too small for me to zip

up... I showed her today that I now have a 6 inch overlap in the front!

Also made the comment that I'm drying my jeans in the dryer 'cause

they're too loose.... ehehehehe

I'm making progress.

Topper ()

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:17:08 -0000 " robert "

writes:

> Hi,

> Like I said, I am butting into your deal!... BUT... You would

> have to eat 6600 calories more than you burn to gain 2 lbs , or

> 16500

> to gain 5 lbs... I have the same super slow metabo that you have. I

> would think most of us here do... but this is really simple math...

> if you are eating 800-1200 calories a day, and even if you are

> burning ZERO, it would take 2-4 days to gain a pound... and it does

> take calories to live, and think, and have a heart beat... so my

> point was a BODY image point of view... if you obsess over the scale

> you will spend a lot of time upset and thinking you are a

> failure...

> JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

>

> Bobby

[Guest guest]

I tend to think that a lot of the rapid weight jumps may have a lot to do

with the body being slow in processing that big meal and the water weight

that can build up when the system is off kilter....

One of the things that I've noticed as I've been dropping weight is

increased frequency in emptying my bladder.... I've heard that we store a

lot more water than 'normal' folks and that's one of the things that we

start shedding as our bodies balance out.....

..... I modeled my leather jacket for Ruth (she lives here with me and my

pop and has been gone for the last five weeks) She was with me when the

jacket was given to me and knows that it was too small for me to zip

up... I showed her today that I now have a 6 inch overlap in the front!

Also made the comment that I'm drying my jeans in the dryer 'cause

they're too loose.... ehehehehe

I'm making progress.

Topper ()

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:17:08 -0000 " robert "

writes:

> Hi,

> Like I said, I am butting into your deal!... BUT... You would

> have to eat 6600 calories more than you burn to gain 2 lbs , or

> 16500

> to gain 5 lbs... I have the same super slow metabo that you have. I

> would think most of us here do... but this is really simple math...

> if you are eating 800-1200 calories a day, and even if you are

> burning ZERO, it would take 2-4 days to gain a pound... and it does

> take calories to live, and think, and have a heart beat... so my

> point was a BODY image point of view... if you obsess over the scale

> you will spend a lot of time upset and thinking you are a

> failure...

> JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

>

> Bobby

[Guest guest]

I tend to think that a lot of the rapid weight jumps may have a lot to do

with the body being slow in processing that big meal and the water weight

that can build up when the system is off kilter....

One of the things that I've noticed as I've been dropping weight is

increased frequency in emptying my bladder.... I've heard that we store a

lot more water than 'normal' folks and that's one of the things that we

start shedding as our bodies balance out.....

..... I modeled my leather jacket for Ruth (she lives here with me and my

pop and has been gone for the last five weeks) She was with me when the

jacket was given to me and knows that it was too small for me to zip

up... I showed her today that I now have a 6 inch overlap in the front!

Also made the comment that I'm drying my jeans in the dryer 'cause

they're too loose.... ehehehehe

I'm making progress.

Topper ()

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 18:17:08 -0000 " robert "

writes:

> Hi,

> Like I said, I am butting into your deal!... BUT... You would

> have to eat 6600 calories more than you burn to gain 2 lbs , or

> 16500

> to gain 5 lbs... I have the same super slow metabo that you have. I

> would think most of us here do... but this is really simple math...

> if you are eating 800-1200 calories a day, and even if you are

> burning ZERO, it would take 2-4 days to gain a pound... and it does

> take calories to live, and think, and have a heart beat... so my

> point was a BODY image point of view... if you obsess over the scale

> you will spend a lot of time upset and thinking you are a

> failure...

> JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

>

> Bobby

[Guest guest]

Wow Bev, 800 to 900 cals a day isn't enough! You're starving your

poor body. By not getting enough cals your body starts hanging on to

everything you eat and stores it as fat. Not a good idea, honey!

Zina

I have the metabolism of a slug even on Armour, dang

it

>

> Me too!!! My Diet Power software has me now on less than 800

calories a day

> to lose weight. I have lost 15 lbs. over several months and I eat

very good

> food and take supplements but still: 800-900 calories is very

little!

>

> Now my temperature is usually over 97.6 to 98.6 and I am taking 2

1/4 grains

> of Armour. I exercise moderately but still my metabolism

sucks......I don't

> quite understand how this can be and it makes me wonder if I need

to up my

> Armour more. I will gradually increase the 1/4 grain at night if it

turns

> out that the 1/4 grain does not cause problems.

>

> How can one be on the correct dose of Armour and still have a

> hypo-metabolism? Why doesn't it go back to normal? I know I could

exercise

> more but is that the only option and would it make any difference...

> exercise burns very few calories unless you are chopping wood:-))

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

[Guest guest]

Wow Bev, 800 to 900 cals a day isn't enough! You're starving your

poor body. By not getting enough cals your body starts hanging on to

everything you eat and stores it as fat. Not a good idea, honey!

Zina

I have the metabolism of a slug even on Armour, dang

it

>

> Me too!!! My Diet Power software has me now on less than 800

calories a day

> to lose weight. I have lost 15 lbs. over several months and I eat

very good

> food and take supplements but still: 800-900 calories is very

little!

>

> Now my temperature is usually over 97.6 to 98.6 and I am taking 2

1/4 grains

> of Armour. I exercise moderately but still my metabolism

sucks......I don't

> quite understand how this can be and it makes me wonder if I need

to up my

> Armour more. I will gradually increase the 1/4 grain at night if it

turns

> out that the 1/4 grain does not cause problems.

>

> How can one be on the correct dose of Armour and still have a

> hypo-metabolism? Why doesn't it go back to normal? I know I could

exercise

> more but is that the only option and would it make any difference...

> exercise burns very few calories unless you are chopping wood:-))

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

[Guest guest]

Yes Bev, Topper explains it MUCH better than I can!

Zina

I have the metabolism of a slug even on Armour,

dang

> > it

> >

> > Me too!!! My Diet Power software has me now on less than 800

> > calories a day

> > to lose weight. I have lost 15 lbs. over several months and I eat

> > very good

> > food and take supplements but still: 800-900 calories is very

> > little!

> >

> > Now my temperature is usually over 97.6 to 98.6 and I am taking 2

> > 1/4 grains

> > of Armour. I exercise moderately but still my metabolism

> > sucks......I don't

> > quite understand how this can be and it makes me wonder if I need

to

> > up my

> > Armour more. I will gradually increase the 1/4 grain at night if

it

> > turns

> > out that the 1/4 grain does not cause problems.

> >

> > How can one be on the correct dose of Armour and still have a

> > hypo-metabolism? Why doesn't it go back to normal? I know I could

> > exercise

> > more but is that the only option and would it make any

> > difference...

> > exercise burns very few calories unless you are chopping wood:-))

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

[Guest guest]

Okay, what is OTDM? I WANT your recipes!!!!

Zina

<<OTDM>>

[Guest guest]

Okay, what is OTDM? I WANT your recipes!!!!

Zina

<<OTDM>>

[Guest guest]

Okay, what is OTDM? I WANT your recipes!!!!

Zina

<<OTDM>>

[Guest guest]

The hardest thing for me getting sick was that the known measure of how many

calories equals a pound so you know based on total consumed what you will gain

or lose no longer applies. Even when the know it all DR's that were sure I was

not logging right put me in a controlled environment, I gained on their 1200

calorie a day diet. I will weigh everyday. It is my only safeguard.

Re: Metabolism of a Slug

Hi there Bobby! I am like Bev. I prefer to go by the scales. But

it's not obsession and that may be where " semantics " is a problem--

going by the scale for some of us is just a guide and a goal that

one can observe, along with other guides such as measurements, how

things fit, etc.

Janie )

>... if you obsess over the scale you will spend a lot of time

upset and thinking you are a failure...

> JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION

>

> Bobby

[Guest guest]

Hi Bobby!

You certainly are right. I don't weigh myself very often. I don't

even have a scale at home. Every once in a while I'll step on the

scale at the gym.

Zina

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I hear you and it does make sense:-)) I have read the same thing

in

> several

> > books too.

> >

> > However, when I tried your formula if my math was right:

> considering I want

> > to weigh about 135 lbs it still came out to around 800-900

calories

> and BTW

> > I am losing about 1 pound a week even on that! The catch is, if I

> eat more

> > than 1,000 calories a day I start to _put on weight_. I probably

> eat around

> > 1,000 calories a day now but if I eat any more the weight goes

> on.......not

> > off. I know I have watched it very carefully. I can increase my

> metabolism

> > with exercise but that also increases my appetite and once again

I

> gain

> > rather than lose weight....

> >

> > So I have lost almost 15 pounds and I am within about ten pounds

> of where I

> > want to go - maybe even closer, - it has been quite awhile since

I

> have been

> > at these weights so I will see where I feel best and stop. Right

> now I am at

> > a weight I haven't seen in over ten years! On days when I eat

more

> I gain

> > more. I keep track. I eat very well and often and it is working.

I

> am also

> > eating a diet that includes carbs because I want to try to get a

> way of

> > eating that I can stay on - just adding a few more calories when

I

> am at my

> > ideal weight.

> >

> > It is so much easier to maintain a weight than to lose it! I am

5'

> 8 " tall

> > and at most, I weighed 180 lbs. Gained that 40 lbs. when I

started

> being

> > hypothyroid I think and lost thirty of those pounds a year or so

> ago. Then I

> > gained back 10 of them so I weighed 160 a few months ago. I have

> now lost

> > almost 15 and will keep going till I reach the weight I like.

> >

> > If I could eat any more and lose weight I would but for me it

> doesn't work

> > that way. On days when I eat a bit more I see it there on the

scale

> the next

> > day. I can gain two pounds in one day after a big dinner but I

> can't lose

> > two pounds in a week. I have also noticed on days that I exercise

> more, I

> > don't necessarily lose weight. Since what I am doing is working I

> will stick

> > to it.

> >

> > Probably all the fasting etc. I have done over the years taught

my

> body to

> > go into fasting mode all the time. The more I eat the more weight

I

> gain.

> > Wish it was otherwise....I wish your way would work for me, it

> sounds better

> > as long as it works for you.

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> > PS the diet power counts what you eat, plus the exercise you do,

> and your weight loss and keeping track of all that lets you know

what

> your individual metabolic rate is and how many calories you can eat

> and still lose weight. It uses all the information you put in every

> day and keeps recalculating your own metabolic rate.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bobby!

You certainly are right. I don't weigh myself very often. I don't

even have a scale at home. Every once in a while I'll step on the

scale at the gym.

Zina

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I hear you and it does make sense:-)) I have read the same thing

in

> several

> > books too.

> >

> > However, when I tried your formula if my math was right:

> considering I want

> > to weigh about 135 lbs it still came out to around 800-900

calories

> and BTW

> > I am losing about 1 pound a week even on that! The catch is, if I

> eat more

> > than 1,000 calories a day I start to _put on weight_. I probably

> eat around

> > 1,000 calories a day now but if I eat any more the weight goes

> on.......not

> > off. I know I have watched it very carefully. I can increase my

> metabolism

> > with exercise but that also increases my appetite and once again

I

> gain

> > rather than lose weight....

> >

> > So I have lost almost 15 pounds and I am within about ten pounds

> of where I

> > want to go - maybe even closer, - it has been quite awhile since

I

> have been

> > at these weights so I will see where I feel best and stop. Right

> now I am at

> > a weight I haven't seen in over ten years! On days when I eat

more

> I gain

> > more. I keep track. I eat very well and often and it is working.

I

> am also

> > eating a diet that includes carbs because I want to try to get a

> way of

> > eating that I can stay on - just adding a few more calories when

I

> am at my

> > ideal weight.

> >

> > It is so much easier to maintain a weight than to lose it! I am

5'

> 8 " tall

> > and at most, I weighed 180 lbs. Gained that 40 lbs. when I

started

> being

> > hypothyroid I think and lost thirty of those pounds a year or so

> ago. Then I

> > gained back 10 of them so I weighed 160 a few months ago. I have

> now lost

> > almost 15 and will keep going till I reach the weight I like.

> >

> > If I could eat any more and lose weight I would but for me it

> doesn't work

> > that way. On days when I eat a bit more I see it there on the

scale

> the next

> > day. I can gain two pounds in one day after a big dinner but I

> can't lose

> > two pounds in a week. I have also noticed on days that I exercise

> more, I

> > don't necessarily lose weight. Since what I am doing is working I

> will stick

> > to it.

> >

> > Probably all the fasting etc. I have done over the years taught

my

> body to

> > go into fasting mode all the time. The more I eat the more weight

I

> gain.

> > Wish it was otherwise....I wish your way would work for me, it

> sounds better

> > as long as it works for you.

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> > PS the diet power counts what you eat, plus the exercise you do,

> and your weight loss and keeping track of all that lets you know

what

> your individual metabolic rate is and how many calories you can eat

> and still lose weight. It uses all the information you put in every

> day and keeps recalculating your own metabolic rate.

[Guest guest]

Hi Bobby!

You certainly are right. I don't weigh myself very often. I don't

even have a scale at home. Every once in a while I'll step on the

scale at the gym.

Zina

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I hear you and it does make sense:-)) I have read the same thing

in

> several

> > books too.

> >

> > However, when I tried your formula if my math was right:

> considering I want

> > to weigh about 135 lbs it still came out to around 800-900

calories

> and BTW

> > I am losing about 1 pound a week even on that! The catch is, if I

> eat more

> > than 1,000 calories a day I start to _put on weight_. I probably

> eat around

> > 1,000 calories a day now but if I eat any more the weight goes

> on.......not

> > off. I know I have watched it very carefully. I can increase my

> metabolism

> > with exercise but that also increases my appetite and once again

I

> gain

> > rather than lose weight....

> >

> > So I have lost almost 15 pounds and I am within about ten pounds

> of where I

> > want to go - maybe even closer, - it has been quite awhile since

I

> have been

> > at these weights so I will see where I feel best and stop. Right

> now I am at

> > a weight I haven't seen in over ten years! On days when I eat

more

> I gain

> > more. I keep track. I eat very well and often and it is working.

I

> am also

> > eating a diet that includes carbs because I want to try to get a

> way of

> > eating that I can stay on - just adding a few more calories when

I

> am at my

> > ideal weight.

> >

> > It is so much easier to maintain a weight than to lose it! I am

5'

> 8 " tall

> > and at most, I weighed 180 lbs. Gained that 40 lbs. when I

started

> being

> > hypothyroid I think and lost thirty of those pounds a year or so

> ago. Then I

> > gained back 10 of them so I weighed 160 a few months ago. I have

> now lost

> > almost 15 and will keep going till I reach the weight I like.

> >

> > If I could eat any more and lose weight I would but for me it

> doesn't work

> > that way. On days when I eat a bit more I see it there on the

scale

> the next

> > day. I can gain two pounds in one day after a big dinner but I

> can't lose

> > two pounds in a week. I have also noticed on days that I exercise

> more, I

> > don't necessarily lose weight. Since what I am doing is working I

> will stick

> > to it.

> >

> > Probably all the fasting etc. I have done over the years taught

my

> body to

> > go into fasting mode all the time. The more I eat the more weight

I

> gain.

> > Wish it was otherwise....I wish your way would work for me, it

> sounds better

> > as long as it works for you.

> >

> > Peace, Love and Harmony,

> > Bev

> >

> > PS the diet power counts what you eat, plus the exercise you do,

> and your weight loss and keeping track of all that lets you know

what

> your individual metabolic rate is and how many calories you can eat

> and still lose weight. It uses all the information you put in every

> day and keeps recalculating your own metabolic rate.

[Guest guest]

CHEESEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On my way, need tyrosine! Can you spare a cup of Parmesan?

ThyroFeisty

Re: Re: Metabolism of a slug

Zina... you should know.... The number three group that and I are

running: Overcoming TD Metabolism (TD is thyroid disorder)....

I've not started posting recipes yet. The house is in a turmoil as I help

the folks to get ready to leave. This is the first time I've been on the

computer in nearly 12 hours!!!!

As I was going through stuff over the weekend I decided that I'll post

the recipes with their calorie, fat, protein and carb counts. It may turn

out that this will work better of one of the web sites, either my

personal one or our soon to launch Groups web site. That way everybody

has the info they need to weigh a given recipe to meet their nutritional

goals as well as checking to see if it might be a good match for their

taste buds. I'll list brand name of ingredients, where applicable, so

substitutions that are made can be re-calculated.

I had someone else sample my new rice version. I have to calculate the

numbers for it, I just made it this afternoon for the first time. I've

been seasoning the rice as I cook it, using a slightly different cooking

method that I learned on the food channel. You reduce the amount of water

slightly and bring it to a boil before adding the dry rice. I've been

adding a Tblsp of butter and assorted herbs and spice to the boiling

water and giving the rice a quick stir when I add it. Then put on the

cover and reduce to simmer for 20 minutes on a regular gas stove. Turn

off the heat and leave on the still hot electric burner if that's the

style stove you have. The scent of the rice with the seasoning is to die

for! The rice has a nice body to it, not sticky and has a nice firm bite

to it, not mushy, the butter adds a depth to it. Hard to describe, makes

it more like a food item and less of a filler. For the sauce I made a

simple one. About a quarter cup of water, 4 ounces of Velveeta cheese

(this was for four servings) and a Tblsp of my favorite BBQ sauce - Ken

.

The result is a very satisfying serving, one cup of the rice blend to 1/4

cup of the cheese sauce. Because the rice is seasoned and flavorful on

it's own you can do with far less sauce, reducing the total calories. The

aftertaste makes it. The rice, cooked this way is a food to chew, not

swallow like people often do with a soft rice. The cheese sauce with the

BBQ sauce is leaving a very pleasant aftertaste.... My mouth is running

around feeling like we had a great BBQ something... but with a lot less

calories then having a big cook out...

Another one to add to my list of yummies!

Topper ()

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:06:00 -0000 " thwacksplat "

writes:

> Okay, what is OTDM? I WANT your recipes!!!!

>

> Zina