Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 Ang, Since you gave me all this info now I seem to come up with alot of questions for you. Can you explain what BMR is? I am not sure but is it base metabolism rate? Also, regarding the calories you quote for sedatary, slightly active, etc. seem quite high to me. I calculated everything I ate today and it was about 1,100 calories. From what I remember about seeing alot of diets I think a person is suppose to be in about that range of calorie consumption for dieting but I am getting alittle confused with like sedatary is says 2,412. If I only consumed about 1,100 that leaves 1,312 calories that I burned over and above what I consumed by calories. Does that mean that ... by the way.. I just got back from the gym. About an hour work out. I did the bicycle to warm up, treadmill for 30 minutes, worked on my ab and arms for awhile and then the stairmaster for 10 minutes. Afterwards I treated myself to the sauna. Wow.. this all feels so good! Anyway, my question... I guess I would consider with my workout that I really could have consumed 3,395 calories.. (I only consumed 1,100) so that means I burned 2,295? For some reason I am not sure I have this all right. Please correct me if I do not. I also know it takes burning 3,500 calories to lose 1 lb right? I think the reason why I might be confused is when you work the machines at the gym, they tell you how many calories you burn. I guess I never calculated the whole rest of my day as activity level also. (LOL) Is this how I should be calculating lossing the fat? If not Ang, any information you can give me to help me understand this better I would greatly appreciate. Thanks so very much. Dianne > Your BMI is the same as mine was at my start lst year - 41. But my > body fat was 49.31%, and yours is only 36.08% ! Boy that extra 3 > inches you have on me makes a difference! > Let's see, 153 pounds of lean body mass, only 86 of it fat (I like > seing such a small number associated with my fat. LOL) > Ok. Your BMR is 1787. And sedative to slightly active is 2412 > calories a day. Moderately active is 2823, and if you HAVE to have > pizza you can go clear up to 3395 calories if you are heavely active > that day to burn them off. > If you loose 1.3 pounds a week you could get down to 170, your BMI > down to 28 (wow - what a drop! I'm STILL at 31), in under a year. > Man, only 44 waist too, mine was 49.9999999 (I refuse to say 50 - I > just won't do it). LOL. Buy the way - at 170 now, my waist has > dwindled down to a 31 1/2 :-) Wow - that's darn near 20 inches. I > can't hardly believe it. > Ang > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a while. I missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > Ang, > Can you explain what BMR is? I am not sure but is it base metabolism > rate? ..........Yep, you got it :-) Your body needs 'so many' calories per day just to function as a living unit. This number of calories is the BMR. If we don't have at least that amount of calories, instead of the organizm simply dieing - our body is versitile enough to make adjustmants. And too few calories = an adjustment in motabolism, lowering it so that it doesn't cost the body so many calories to survive. What we'd like to do is raise our motabolism to it's peek by eating enough calories and eating foods that cost the body more calories to digest (complex carbs, protien - basicaly if God grew it that way - we can eat it :-) > Also, regarding the calories you quote for sedatary, slightly active, > etc. seem quite high to me. ........Yes, it was a hard thing for me to swallow at first too. I was brought up in a world screaming 1200 calories for women, 1500 calories for men. Period. And to loose weight ment even less. Well, I spent 10 years doing 1200 calories or less and did nothing but slow my motablosim to a crawl. It took me almost 6 months to get it back to where it belonged after I finaly ditched 'diet' ideas of today and went strait to the books to learn about the body myself. I am far from well learned, as there is SO MUCH to take into account, but the amount of calories and what kind of calories they are are important - the key. The diet industry was right that it all goes back to the number of clories we eat - but they are basing it on the wrong idea. I actualy loose more weight eating 1800 calories a day, with an occational boost of 2000 - 2200 than I doo at 1500 - 7000 calories a day. I didn't just read info, I actualy tried doing many things and keeping track of everything in my files. (of course all bodyies are different - and everyone would have to take the 'bace' idea and program it for their needs) - but I've now lost 55 pounds without what you would consider a diet or exersice. I have changed alot of things for a healthier way of life, in order to get my body to do it's job efficently. Us long term dieters see to avoid alot of things that our bdies need to get rid of the fat, not only that - commmercial food industry has taken out all the 'good stuf' we need and added a bunch of stuff that bogges down our bodies. Just simply adding a few supliments makes a difference, a few essential amino acids and fatty iols that we don't get in our diet. Our bodies weren't ment to store so much extra fat - some, but there is a limit. If we store more than that, and don't have a medical problem enducing it, then it is because our bodies are not functioning properly and we need to look and see what it needs. (basicaly, not less food - more nutriants). > I am getting alittle confused > with like sedatary is says 2,412. If I only consumed about 1,100 > that leaves 1,312 calories that I burned over and above what I > consumed by calories. .....No. and this is another area of big missconeption (thank you diet world). How do I explain....(sorry, had to Lucia :-).... Ok, you're child has a new battery opperated toy. A new battery with lost of jiuce = a fast car, clear honking sounds, bright lights flashing. What happens if you take out a good battery (at least BMR calories), and put in a used one (only 1100 calories)? The lights are dim, the noise is wabbled and low, it is slow and may not eve go on the carpet. Same thing. Only all the things that car is doing - for our bodies is the calorie burning motabolism. If we want our bodies to burn calories, burn fat, feel good and be healthy - it needs new batteries. It will still run with the used batteries - but it will not run at top function. Now hopefully Lucia will jump in here and give those #s and %s examples so I don't have to stop and get side tracked... But say you ate 1100 calories a day this week. Next week you tried the 1800 calories a day. While eating the 1100 caloires a day your motabolism may only be running at 50%. While eating 1800 calories a day you motabolism is runing at 100%. So if we figured out all the numbers, and added up exactly how many calories a day your body burned during those times....you would find that when eating only 1100 calories a day you may even have extra calories you didn't burn, and while eating 1800 calories a day you actualy burned more than that. (I am so sorry this is so long - but I know it can be hard to understand till it 'clicks' - then - it's a breeze.) As far as wanting to eat less calories than you burn - that's why I always stay just above my BMR. Even if I am at a moderate activity level, I stay between my BMR and sedative calorie total. But I have also learned that the body reacts to everything we do or eat. So there are dtimes when I find that actually eating that 2500 calories a day for a few days (my actual activity level) - that I will actualy loose more weight - it kind of stokes the preverbial fire so to say. If our bodies are given what it needs - it can deal with extra calories nicely. Of course to eat that amount of calories every day, that would result in my body adjusting to that new intake and burning just that amount - which would = no loss. > Anyway, my > question... I guess I would consider with my workout that I really > could have consumed 3,395 calories.. (I only consumed 1,100) so that > means I burned 2,295? For some reason I am not sure I have this all > right. ....IF you eat your BMR (1800 calories or what ever it was) - THEN you could say, that with your motabolism functioning properly, you could add up your calories consumed, then subtract all the activity burned and come up with a number like that. But you haven't been eating enough calories to have your motabolism running propperly. If your motabolism is only functioning at 50% - then your only burning 1/2 the calories doing whatever it is you do during the day. That's why you can actualy eat more and loose more weight when you keep track of what your body needs. Let me see if it's easier to see with an example. Week 1: Eating 1100 calories a day. Doing 2000 calories worth of exersice and calorie burning a day. Now we are lead to believe that this would mean we are depleted by 900 calories a day. Which would = almost a 2 pound loss a week. Then we realise that we bearly loose anything at all, much less 2 pounds a week. Why? Because although we are 'doing' 2000 calories worth of caloire burning activities - our body isn't using 2000 calories to do those activities. Why? Because the motabolism was not up to par. Why? Because it didn't have enough calories to maintain survivale if it didn't slow the calorie burning furnace (motabolism). Too few calories, not enough water, not enough movement, not enough/proper nutrition, certain foods - all these things = slower motablosim. Now Week 2 Eat 1800 calories a day. Doing 2000 calories worth of calorie burning activities. Here we would have a 1400 calorie deffinciatcy and therefore loose almost 1/2 pound a week. We will hae eaten 700 calories more per day and did the same activities, yet lost 1/2 pound a week instead of not loosing. Why? Because our bodies had the fuel it needed (new batteries) to do it's job propperly. Now these numbers aren't real numbers - I'm sure all of us use more than 2000 calories a day unless we literaly sit all day. So the numbers would be different. To increase your motablosm, certain foods (hot/spicey, proper nutrition/suppliments or healthy eating or both/some form of activity - not just exersice - but just steaedy movement. If your at a desk all day - every so often go to the restroom, grab a drink of water, stretch, tighten and feel the muscles in your body - just kind of wake it up :-), eat enough calories, drink plenty of water (1/2 your body weight = # of oz.) >Please correct me if I do not. I also know it takes burning > 3,500 calories to lose 1 lb right? ......Yes, a pound of fat FROM fat. A pund from carbs is only like 500. So without bothering a lengthy explination - don't skimp out on the carbs or do the atkins diet. A propperly runnning body will use all the carbs and protien it gets (within reason of course). > I think the reason why I might be > confused is when you work the machines at the gym, they tell you how > many calories you burn. ......Right - they are telling you how many calories a PROPERLY functioning body would be burning. Chances are (Lucia, do you know about this?) - chances are that thtose machine, and the amount of calories burned that it's showing are set for a healthy, lean, fit person who has a motablism running at 100%. I meen I'd be more apt to by a machine that would tell me I'm burning 200 calories and hour vs the one that says - well, in your case lady, probly only 75 and hour. LOL. For a machine to tell you the real amount that you are burning - it would have to be set up in one of thse air tight rooms I was talking about and monitared by scientist. (how cool would that be!) In lue of that - the next best approach would be - it would have to be able to factore in your age, wight, hieght, calories consumed on an average day, fat fat/water/lean mass %s.... > Is this how I should be calculating lossing the fat? If not Ang, any > information you can give me to help me understand this better I would > greatly appreciate. .....Here are a few things to keep in mind, maybe learn about. Fat = sugar don't mix. Eatting sugar = all your fat cells opening up like little pac men just waiting for a dribble of fat to store. Eat sugar free cookies, or fat free cookies - but not sugar and fat together. Eat melon, friut or salads a good 1/2 hour before you eat your carbs and protien for best diegestion and 'burnability'. Best way is to have a bowl of salad, mellon or piece of fruit while your making the dinner - then with your dinner - if you want to use a suppliment that is natural, healthy and will aslo help keep gunk and fat out of your system, take bromolne or aple pectone with the meal. You've hear " an apple a day keeps the doctor away " ? Well, truth be told, eat about 12 apples before each meal and that indeed would probably keep the doctor away. The pecton in the apples (bromalain in pineaple - fresh, ripe only), absorb alot of the preservatives and adatives, and even some non essential fats that we realy shouldn't be putting in our bodies. Drink milk, eat hard darriy or take calcium suppliments (be sure to get magnesium with it - or it won't be utalized propperly - NOT the stuf with D - D can be over done.) Take essential faty acids that can't be found in food today - they regulate the uses and storge of fat. If you don't eat much protien, take the amino acid suppliments or eat the combo of foods together that = protien chain building amino acids. (ex: Red beans and rice) Drink water - the top layer of fat is pretty easy to loose as it is hydrated. The lower layers are compact and have less blood circulation. To get the fat storage emptied from these cells, it takes more than just fewer calories than burned in a day. It takes hydration and circulation. Exersice or rubbing is good to get the blood flowing (Ya Lucia - I found yet another way around the arobics. LOL - I can't even spell that horrid word!), and you need lots of water so the cells rehydrate and then the essentioal fatty acids to break up the fat small enough to pass through the cell membranes. (that's why I keep telling everyone to get CLA). Well - This is so long I will stop or everyone might rally to have me expelled! LOL I hope this helps a bit. Ang > > Thanks so very much. > > Dianne > > > > Your BMI is the same as mine was at my start lst year - 41. But my > > body fat was 49.31%, and yours is only 36.08% ! Boy that extra 3 > > inches you have on me makes a difference! > > Let's see, 153 pounds of lean body mass, only 86 of it fat (I like > > seing such a small number associated with my fat. LOL) > > Ok. Your BMR is 1787. And sedative to slightly active is 2412 > > calories a day. Moderately active is 2823, and if you HAVE to have > > pizza you can go clear up to 3395 calories if you are heavely > active > > that day to burn them off. > > If you loose 1.3 pounds a week you could get down to 170, your BMI > > down to 28 (wow - what a drop! I'm STILL at 31), in under a year. > > Man, only 44 waist too, mine was 49.9999999 (I refuse to say 50 - I > > just won't do it). LOL. Buy the way - at 170 now, my waist has > > dwindled down to a 31 1/2 :-) Wow - that's darn near 20 inches. I > > can't hardly believe it. > > Ang > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a while. I missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > Ang, > Can you explain what BMR is? I am not sure but is it base metabolism > rate? ..........Yep, you got it :-) Your body needs 'so many' calories per day just to function as a living unit. This number of calories is the BMR. If we don't have at least that amount of calories, instead of the organizm simply dieing - our body is versitile enough to make adjustmants. And too few calories = an adjustment in motabolism, lowering it so that it doesn't cost the body so many calories to survive. What we'd like to do is raise our motabolism to it's peek by eating enough calories and eating foods that cost the body more calories to digest (complex carbs, protien - basicaly if God grew it that way - we can eat it :-) > Also, regarding the calories you quote for sedatary, slightly active, > etc. seem quite high to me. ........Yes, it was a hard thing for me to swallow at first too. I was brought up in a world screaming 1200 calories for women, 1500 calories for men. Period. And to loose weight ment even less. Well, I spent 10 years doing 1200 calories or less and did nothing but slow my motablosim to a crawl. It took me almost 6 months to get it back to where it belonged after I finaly ditched 'diet' ideas of today and went strait to the books to learn about the body myself. I am far from well learned, as there is SO MUCH to take into account, but the amount of calories and what kind of calories they are are important - the key. The diet industry was right that it all goes back to the number of clories we eat - but they are basing it on the wrong idea. I actualy loose more weight eating 1800 calories a day, with an occational boost of 2000 - 2200 than I doo at 1500 - 7000 calories a day. I didn't just read info, I actualy tried doing many things and keeping track of everything in my files. (of course all bodyies are different - and everyone would have to take the 'bace' idea and program it for their needs) - but I've now lost 55 pounds without what you would consider a diet or exersice. I have changed alot of things for a healthier way of life, in order to get my body to do it's job efficently. Us long term dieters see to avoid alot of things that our bdies need to get rid of the fat, not only that - commmercial food industry has taken out all the 'good stuf' we need and added a bunch of stuff that bogges down our bodies. Just simply adding a few supliments makes a difference, a few essential amino acids and fatty iols that we don't get in our diet. Our bodies weren't ment to store so much extra fat - some, but there is a limit. If we store more than that, and don't have a medical problem enducing it, then it is because our bodies are not functioning properly and we need to look and see what it needs. (basicaly, not less food - more nutriants). > I am getting alittle confused > with like sedatary is says 2,412. If I only consumed about 1,100 > that leaves 1,312 calories that I burned over and above what I > consumed by calories. .....No. and this is another area of big missconeption (thank you diet world). How do I explain....(sorry, had to Lucia :-).... Ok, you're child has a new battery opperated toy. A new battery with lost of jiuce = a fast car, clear honking sounds, bright lights flashing. What happens if you take out a good battery (at least BMR calories), and put in a used one (only 1100 calories)? The lights are dim, the noise is wabbled and low, it is slow and may not eve go on the carpet. Same thing. Only all the things that car is doing - for our bodies is the calorie burning motabolism. If we want our bodies to burn calories, burn fat, feel good and be healthy - it needs new batteries. It will still run with the used batteries - but it will not run at top function. Now hopefully Lucia will jump in here and give those #s and %s examples so I don't have to stop and get side tracked... But say you ate 1100 calories a day this week. Next week you tried the 1800 calories a day. While eating the 1100 caloires a day your motabolism may only be running at 50%. While eating 1800 calories a day you motabolism is runing at 100%. So if we figured out all the numbers, and added up exactly how many calories a day your body burned during those times....you would find that when eating only 1100 calories a day you may even have extra calories you didn't burn, and while eating 1800 calories a day you actualy burned more than that. (I am so sorry this is so long - but I know it can be hard to understand till it 'clicks' - then - it's a breeze.) As far as wanting to eat less calories than you burn - that's why I always stay just above my BMR. Even if I am at a moderate activity level, I stay between my BMR and sedative calorie total. But I have also learned that the body reacts to everything we do or eat. So there are dtimes when I find that actually eating that 2500 calories a day for a few days (my actual activity level) - that I will actualy loose more weight - it kind of stokes the preverbial fire so to say. If our bodies are given what it needs - it can deal with extra calories nicely. Of course to eat that amount of calories every day, that would result in my body adjusting to that new intake and burning just that amount - which would = no loss. > Anyway, my > question... I guess I would consider with my workout that I really > could have consumed 3,395 calories.. (I only consumed 1,100) so that > means I burned 2,295? For some reason I am not sure I have this all > right. ....IF you eat your BMR (1800 calories or what ever it was) - THEN you could say, that with your motabolism functioning properly, you could add up your calories consumed, then subtract all the activity burned and come up with a number like that. But you haven't been eating enough calories to have your motabolism running propperly. If your motabolism is only functioning at 50% - then your only burning 1/2 the calories doing whatever it is you do during the day. That's why you can actualy eat more and loose more weight when you keep track of what your body needs. Let me see if it's easier to see with an example. Week 1: Eating 1100 calories a day. Doing 2000 calories worth of exersice and calorie burning a day. Now we are lead to believe that this would mean we are depleted by 900 calories a day. Which would = almost a 2 pound loss a week. Then we realise that we bearly loose anything at all, much less 2 pounds a week. Why? Because although we are 'doing' 2000 calories worth of caloire burning activities - our body isn't using 2000 calories to do those activities. Why? Because the motabolism was not up to par. Why? Because it didn't have enough calories to maintain survivale if it didn't slow the calorie burning furnace (motabolism). Too few calories, not enough water, not enough movement, not enough/proper nutrition, certain foods - all these things = slower motablosim. Now Week 2 Eat 1800 calories a day. Doing 2000 calories worth of calorie burning activities. Here we would have a 1400 calorie deffinciatcy and therefore loose almost 1/2 pound a week. We will hae eaten 700 calories more per day and did the same activities, yet lost 1/2 pound a week instead of not loosing. Why? Because our bodies had the fuel it needed (new batteries) to do it's job propperly. Now these numbers aren't real numbers - I'm sure all of us use more than 2000 calories a day unless we literaly sit all day. So the numbers would be different. To increase your motablosm, certain foods (hot/spicey, proper nutrition/suppliments or healthy eating or both/some form of activity - not just exersice - but just steaedy movement. If your at a desk all day - every so often go to the restroom, grab a drink of water, stretch, tighten and feel the muscles in your body - just kind of wake it up :-), eat enough calories, drink plenty of water (1/2 your body weight = # of oz.) >Please correct me if I do not. I also know it takes burning > 3,500 calories to lose 1 lb right? ......Yes, a pound of fat FROM fat. A pund from carbs is only like 500. So without bothering a lengthy explination - don't skimp out on the carbs or do the atkins diet. A propperly runnning body will use all the carbs and protien it gets (within reason of course). > I think the reason why I might be > confused is when you work the machines at the gym, they tell you how > many calories you burn. ......Right - they are telling you how many calories a PROPERLY functioning body would be burning. Chances are (Lucia, do you know about this?) - chances are that thtose machine, and the amount of calories burned that it's showing are set for a healthy, lean, fit person who has a motablism running at 100%. I meen I'd be more apt to by a machine that would tell me I'm burning 200 calories and hour vs the one that says - well, in your case lady, probly only 75 and hour. LOL. For a machine to tell you the real amount that you are burning - it would have to be set up in one of thse air tight rooms I was talking about and monitared by scientist. (how cool would that be!) In lue of that - the next best approach would be - it would have to be able to factore in your age, wight, hieght, calories consumed on an average day, fat fat/water/lean mass %s.... > Is this how I should be calculating lossing the fat? If not Ang, any > information you can give me to help me understand this better I would > greatly appreciate. .....Here are a few things to keep in mind, maybe learn about. Fat = sugar don't mix. Eatting sugar = all your fat cells opening up like little pac men just waiting for a dribble of fat to store. Eat sugar free cookies, or fat free cookies - but not sugar and fat together. Eat melon, friut or salads a good 1/2 hour before you eat your carbs and protien for best diegestion and 'burnability'. Best way is to have a bowl of salad, mellon or piece of fruit while your making the dinner - then with your dinner - if you want to use a suppliment that is natural, healthy and will aslo help keep gunk and fat out of your system, take bromolne or aple pectone with the meal. You've hear " an apple a day keeps the doctor away " ? Well, truth be told, eat about 12 apples before each meal and that indeed would probably keep the doctor away. The pecton in the apples (bromalain in pineaple - fresh, ripe only), absorb alot of the preservatives and adatives, and even some non essential fats that we realy shouldn't be putting in our bodies. Drink milk, eat hard darriy or take calcium suppliments (be sure to get magnesium with it - or it won't be utalized propperly - NOT the stuf with D - D can be over done.) Take essential faty acids that can't be found in food today - they regulate the uses and storge of fat. If you don't eat much protien, take the amino acid suppliments or eat the combo of foods together that = protien chain building amino acids. (ex: Red beans and rice) Drink water - the top layer of fat is pretty easy to loose as it is hydrated. The lower layers are compact and have less blood circulation. To get the fat storage emptied from these cells, it takes more than just fewer calories than burned in a day. It takes hydration and circulation. Exersice or rubbing is good to get the blood flowing (Ya Lucia - I found yet another way around the arobics. LOL - I can't even spell that horrid word!), and you need lots of water so the cells rehydrate and then the essentioal fatty acids to break up the fat small enough to pass through the cell membranes. (that's why I keep telling everyone to get CLA). Well - This is so long I will stop or everyone might rally to have me expelled! LOL I hope this helps a bit. Ang > > Thanks so very much. > > Dianne > > > > Your BMI is the same as mine was at my start lst year - 41. But my > > body fat was 49.31%, and yours is only 36.08% ! Boy that extra 3 > > inches you have on me makes a difference! > > Let's see, 153 pounds of lean body mass, only 86 of it fat (I like > > seing such a small number associated with my fat. LOL) > > Ok. Your BMR is 1787. And sedative to slightly active is 2412 > > calories a day. Moderately active is 2823, and if you HAVE to have > > pizza you can go clear up to 3395 calories if you are heavely > active > > that day to burn them off. > > If you loose 1.3 pounds a week you could get down to 170, your BMI > > down to 28 (wow - what a drop! I'm STILL at 31), in under a year. > > Man, only 44 waist too, mine was 49.9999999 (I refuse to say 50 - I > > just won't do it). LOL. Buy the way - at 170 now, my waist has > > dwindled down to a 31 1/2 :-) Wow - that's darn near 20 inches. I > > can't hardly believe it. > > Ang > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a while. I missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > Ang, > Can you explain what BMR is? I am not sure but is it base metabolism > rate? ..........Yep, you got it :-) Your body needs 'so many' calories per day just to function as a living unit. This number of calories is the BMR. If we don't have at least that amount of calories, instead of the organizm simply dieing - our body is versitile enough to make adjustmants. And too few calories = an adjustment in motabolism, lowering it so that it doesn't cost the body so many calories to survive. What we'd like to do is raise our motabolism to it's peek by eating enough calories and eating foods that cost the body more calories to digest (complex carbs, protien - basicaly if God grew it that way - we can eat it :-) > Also, regarding the calories you quote for sedatary, slightly active, > etc. seem quite high to me. ........Yes, it was a hard thing for me to swallow at first too. I was brought up in a world screaming 1200 calories for women, 1500 calories for men. Period. And to loose weight ment even less. Well, I spent 10 years doing 1200 calories or less and did nothing but slow my motablosim to a crawl. It took me almost 6 months to get it back to where it belonged after I finaly ditched 'diet' ideas of today and went strait to the books to learn about the body myself. I am far from well learned, as there is SO MUCH to take into account, but the amount of calories and what kind of calories they are are important - the key. The diet industry was right that it all goes back to the number of clories we eat - but they are basing it on the wrong idea. I actualy loose more weight eating 1800 calories a day, with an occational boost of 2000 - 2200 than I doo at 1500 - 7000 calories a day. I didn't just read info, I actualy tried doing many things and keeping track of everything in my files. (of course all bodyies are different - and everyone would have to take the 'bace' idea and program it for their needs) - but I've now lost 55 pounds without what you would consider a diet or exersice. I have changed alot of things for a healthier way of life, in order to get my body to do it's job efficently. Us long term dieters see to avoid alot of things that our bdies need to get rid of the fat, not only that - commmercial food industry has taken out all the 'good stuf' we need and added a bunch of stuff that bogges down our bodies. Just simply adding a few supliments makes a difference, a few essential amino acids and fatty iols that we don't get in our diet. Our bodies weren't ment to store so much extra fat - some, but there is a limit. If we store more than that, and don't have a medical problem enducing it, then it is because our bodies are not functioning properly and we need to look and see what it needs. (basicaly, not less food - more nutriants). > I am getting alittle confused > with like sedatary is says 2,412. If I only consumed about 1,100 > that leaves 1,312 calories that I burned over and above what I > consumed by calories. .....No. and this is another area of big missconeption (thank you diet world). How do I explain....(sorry, had to Lucia :-).... Ok, you're child has a new battery opperated toy. A new battery with lost of jiuce = a fast car, clear honking sounds, bright lights flashing. What happens if you take out a good battery (at least BMR calories), and put in a used one (only 1100 calories)? The lights are dim, the noise is wabbled and low, it is slow and may not eve go on the carpet. Same thing. Only all the things that car is doing - for our bodies is the calorie burning motabolism. If we want our bodies to burn calories, burn fat, feel good and be healthy - it needs new batteries. It will still run with the used batteries - but it will not run at top function. Now hopefully Lucia will jump in here and give those #s and %s examples so I don't have to stop and get side tracked... But say you ate 1100 calories a day this week. Next week you tried the 1800 calories a day. While eating the 1100 caloires a day your motabolism may only be running at 50%. While eating 1800 calories a day you motabolism is runing at 100%. So if we figured out all the numbers, and added up exactly how many calories a day your body burned during those times....you would find that when eating only 1100 calories a day you may even have extra calories you didn't burn, and while eating 1800 calories a day you actualy burned more than that. (I am so sorry this is so long - but I know it can be hard to understand till it 'clicks' - then - it's a breeze.) As far as wanting to eat less calories than you burn - that's why I always stay just above my BMR. Even if I am at a moderate activity level, I stay between my BMR and sedative calorie total. But I have also learned that the body reacts to everything we do or eat. So there are dtimes when I find that actually eating that 2500 calories a day for a few days (my actual activity level) - that I will actualy loose more weight - it kind of stokes the preverbial fire so to say. If our bodies are given what it needs - it can deal with extra calories nicely. Of course to eat that amount of calories every day, that would result in my body adjusting to that new intake and burning just that amount - which would = no loss. > Anyway, my > question... I guess I would consider with my workout that I really > could have consumed 3,395 calories.. (I only consumed 1,100) so that > means I burned 2,295? For some reason I am not sure I have this all > right. ....IF you eat your BMR (1800 calories or what ever it was) - THEN you could say, that with your motabolism functioning properly, you could add up your calories consumed, then subtract all the activity burned and come up with a number like that. But you haven't been eating enough calories to have your motabolism running propperly. If your motabolism is only functioning at 50% - then your only burning 1/2 the calories doing whatever it is you do during the day. That's why you can actualy eat more and loose more weight when you keep track of what your body needs. Let me see if it's easier to see with an example. Week 1: Eating 1100 calories a day. Doing 2000 calories worth of exersice and calorie burning a day. Now we are lead to believe that this would mean we are depleted by 900 calories a day. Which would = almost a 2 pound loss a week. Then we realise that we bearly loose anything at all, much less 2 pounds a week. Why? Because although we are 'doing' 2000 calories worth of caloire burning activities - our body isn't using 2000 calories to do those activities. Why? Because the motabolism was not up to par. Why? Because it didn't have enough calories to maintain survivale if it didn't slow the calorie burning furnace (motabolism). Too few calories, not enough water, not enough movement, not enough/proper nutrition, certain foods - all these things = slower motablosim. Now Week 2 Eat 1800 calories a day. Doing 2000 calories worth of calorie burning activities. Here we would have a 1400 calorie deffinciatcy and therefore loose almost 1/2 pound a week. We will hae eaten 700 calories more per day and did the same activities, yet lost 1/2 pound a week instead of not loosing. Why? Because our bodies had the fuel it needed (new batteries) to do it's job propperly. Now these numbers aren't real numbers - I'm sure all of us use more than 2000 calories a day unless we literaly sit all day. So the numbers would be different. To increase your motablosm, certain foods (hot/spicey, proper nutrition/suppliments or healthy eating or both/some form of activity - not just exersice - but just steaedy movement. If your at a desk all day - every so often go to the restroom, grab a drink of water, stretch, tighten and feel the muscles in your body - just kind of wake it up :-), eat enough calories, drink plenty of water (1/2 your body weight = # of oz.) >Please correct me if I do not. I also know it takes burning > 3,500 calories to lose 1 lb right? ......Yes, a pound of fat FROM fat. A pund from carbs is only like 500. So without bothering a lengthy explination - don't skimp out on the carbs or do the atkins diet. A propperly runnning body will use all the carbs and protien it gets (within reason of course). > I think the reason why I might be > confused is when you work the machines at the gym, they tell you how > many calories you burn. ......Right - they are telling you how many calories a PROPERLY functioning body would be burning. Chances are (Lucia, do you know about this?) - chances are that thtose machine, and the amount of calories burned that it's showing are set for a healthy, lean, fit person who has a motablism running at 100%. I meen I'd be more apt to by a machine that would tell me I'm burning 200 calories and hour vs the one that says - well, in your case lady, probly only 75 and hour. LOL. For a machine to tell you the real amount that you are burning - it would have to be set up in one of thse air tight rooms I was talking about and monitared by scientist. (how cool would that be!) In lue of that - the next best approach would be - it would have to be able to factore in your age, wight, hieght, calories consumed on an average day, fat fat/water/lean mass %s.... > Is this how I should be calculating lossing the fat? If not Ang, any > information you can give me to help me understand this better I would > greatly appreciate. .....Here are a few things to keep in mind, maybe learn about. Fat = sugar don't mix. Eatting sugar = all your fat cells opening up like little pac men just waiting for a dribble of fat to store. Eat sugar free cookies, or fat free cookies - but not sugar and fat together. Eat melon, friut or salads a good 1/2 hour before you eat your carbs and protien for best diegestion and 'burnability'. Best way is to have a bowl of salad, mellon or piece of fruit while your making the dinner - then with your dinner - if you want to use a suppliment that is natural, healthy and will aslo help keep gunk and fat out of your system, take bromolne or aple pectone with the meal. You've hear " an apple a day keeps the doctor away " ? Well, truth be told, eat about 12 apples before each meal and that indeed would probably keep the doctor away. The pecton in the apples (bromalain in pineaple - fresh, ripe only), absorb alot of the preservatives and adatives, and even some non essential fats that we realy shouldn't be putting in our bodies. Drink milk, eat hard darriy or take calcium suppliments (be sure to get magnesium with it - or it won't be utalized propperly - NOT the stuf with D - D can be over done.) Take essential faty acids that can't be found in food today - they regulate the uses and storge of fat. If you don't eat much protien, take the amino acid suppliments or eat the combo of foods together that = protien chain building amino acids. (ex: Red beans and rice) Drink water - the top layer of fat is pretty easy to loose as it is hydrated. The lower layers are compact and have less blood circulation. To get the fat storage emptied from these cells, it takes more than just fewer calories than burned in a day. It takes hydration and circulation. Exersice or rubbing is good to get the blood flowing (Ya Lucia - I found yet another way around the arobics. LOL - I can't even spell that horrid word!), and you need lots of water so the cells rehydrate and then the essentioal fatty acids to break up the fat small enough to pass through the cell membranes. (that's why I keep telling everyone to get CLA). Well - This is so long I will stop or everyone might rally to have me expelled! LOL I hope this helps a bit. Ang > > Thanks so very much. > > Dianne > > > > Your BMI is the same as mine was at my start lst year - 41. But my > > body fat was 49.31%, and yours is only 36.08% ! Boy that extra 3 > > inches you have on me makes a difference! > > Let's see, 153 pounds of lean body mass, only 86 of it fat (I like > > seing such a small number associated with my fat. LOL) > > Ok. Your BMR is 1787. And sedative to slightly active is 2412 > > calories a day. Moderately active is 2823, and if you HAVE to have > > pizza you can go clear up to 3395 calories if you are heavely > active > > that day to burn them off. > > If you loose 1.3 pounds a week you could get down to 170, your BMI > > down to 28 (wow - what a drop! I'm STILL at 31), in under a year. > > Man, only 44 waist too, mine was 49.9999999 (I refuse to say 50 - I > > just won't do it). LOL. Buy the way - at 170 now, my waist has > > dwindled down to a 31 1/2 :-) Wow - that's darn near 20 inches. I > > can't hardly believe it. > > Ang > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 Hi Ang, Thanks for all the info! Wow.. I have heard it before but guess I have heard it from someone who knows first hand now. It sounds like you know your stuff when it comes to this. Hey, I think I am going to have a real issue now with understanding whether I should be eating more or less. Right now, I am trying to eat as little as possible and even with a work out last night at the gym which I feel was pretty good, I am up about 3 lbs this morning. Like you say, maybe my metabolism is not running at full speed. Must be the problem all along too. Well, I got alot more to learn here so I better try and soak it in. Dianne > Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had > answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a while. I > missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > > > Ang, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 Dianne, Here are some of the basics I have learned: To keep your metabolism up- eat several times a day, mini meals. Do not skip meals, especially breakfast, it slows it down. The longer you exercise, the longer your metabolism will stay elevated after-after burn! Stay hydrated- take your weight in half, that is the minimum ounces of water you need. If you work out and sweat heavily, you need even more. Avoid alcohol- it slows the metabolism and dehydrates you. Everybody needs atleast 1200 cals a day for best body and brain function so don't cut too much. It sounds strange but we actually need to eat to lose. Most of all, be patient and consistent. It needs to be a lifestyle change. Things you will do for the rest of your life. not to just lose but to maintain. And...... it's not just about numbers on a scale or even inches. It is about a healthier lifestyle, feeling better. The " results " are not always seen in the short term. Just keep it simple, things you can stick with. That is why most diets fail. People set unrealistic goal and set themselves up for failure. Little changes, work on habits. You can do it!!! Just to note here, I have lost 85 pounds. I have an under active thyroid, arthritis, asthma, bad knees and back. If I can do it, anybody can, really! Just work on one thing at a time wether it be getting more active, eating better, staying hydrated, ect. You can do it! Gena > Hi Ang, > > Thanks for all the info! Wow.. I have heard it before but guess I > have heard it from someone who knows first hand now. It sounds like > you know your stuff when it comes to this. > > Hey, I think I am going to have a real issue now with understanding > whether I should be eating more or less. Right now, I am trying to > eat as little as possible and even with a work out last night at the > gym which I feel was pretty good, I am up about 3 lbs this morning. > > Like you say, maybe my metabolism is not running at full speed. Must > be the problem all along too. Well, I got alot more to learn here so > I better try and soak it in. > > Dianne > > >> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had >> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a while. I >> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) >> >>> Ang, >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 And the point your at now is a scarry one, I remember. I remember trying so hard to keep food at a minimum, activiey maxed and gaining instead of looseing. I all but had to starve myself to NOT gain, and still didn't loose. When I found out what the problem was, that I needed more fuel for the body - I was more than happy at the thought of eating more - as I was so hungry all the time - but scared that I would gain even more. Here's what I suggest. (FIRST - nothing fast - everything done slowly, max at a few hundred calories a day so you don't put on any weight trying to get yourself back in order) Start taking your calcuim because your body needs it and it will help a bit in the long run with getting your body to get rid of some extra fat and keep it from storing too much. Be sure to be drinking enough water too. If your already use too fewer calories - it should be no problem for you to stick to your BMR (which is the max wieght loss place for calories counters). Take a good week to increase your calories up to your BMR. But don't do it with a sweet treat or some no-no. Instead - try to get your motabolism going strong by incorporateing fiber and raw enzimes. Maybe keeping your meals and snacks as they are - but add a piece of 7 grain, or whole grain bread to your lunch and breakfast. Maybe some fresh pineapple (not canned) - keep a bowl of that on the counter and grab a slice when you walk by. Try making a fresh spinach salad with various types of lettus and cabage in it, some boiled egg (whites - yolks are great for the dog), make croutons with your 7 grain bread, lots of fresh veggies - tomatoe, bell peppers, cucumber, clerey cut real REAL tiny, carrots, fat free dressings. Things like that are excellent for health, you won't feel guilty about them, and the complex carbs and live enzimes will make your body very happy. Also - if you like it and can handle it - do hot and spicey for condoment. Every time my husband feels a bit 'chunky' he starts into the peppers again and boy does it do a number to his motabolism. (I never believed all that before - hot = burn calories - but seeing him loose 225 pounds in one year made a believer out of me!) Also - if you are exersiceing I wish you'd try CLA. Do a search on it - I started taking it because of all the great health benefits and because I knew my body needed it to function and regulate fat (not store so much). Boy was I suprised to find that it realy started sliding my weight off. One of the great 'side effects' is that it breaks up the large fat molicules, letting the stored fat permiate through the cell wall. With the stored energy running in the blood, you feel less hungry, and your mucles use more energy because it is prevalent and available. I noticed very quickly a definate toneing in my muscles (you can even see them now!!!) I know it was mucle building becuase in 10 days of takeing 4000 mg a day, I had gained 3 pounds (muscle) but had lost a bit over a 1/2 inch in my stomach and 1/4 inch on the upper thighs (lost fat). I beleive that the reason it was so much easier for me to loose wieght after discovering this - is because more muscle = more calories burned. (Note - I won't take a 'diet' pill. That's about the worse thing you can do for permanent weight loss. Ok if you have 5 pounds to loose every now and again throu out life - but lots of loss = doing it the right way. CLA is like a vitamin in regards that it is something we need. But unlike most vitamins we can't get it from food anymore) Ang > Hi Ang, > > Thanks for all the info! Wow.. I have heard it before but guess I > have heard it from someone who knows first hand now. It sounds like > you know your stuff when it comes to this. > > Hey, I think I am going to have a real issue now with understanding > whether I should be eating more or less. Right now, I am trying to > eat as little as possible and even with a work out last night at the > gym which I feel was pretty good, I am up about 3 lbs this morning. > > Like you say, maybe my metabolism is not running at full speed. Must > be the problem all along too. Well, I got alot more to learn here so > I better try and soak it in. > > Dianne > > > > Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had > > answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a while. I > > missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > > > > > Ang, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2002 Report Share Posted October 19, 2002 Hi Ang, Yeah, this is scary. Not sure if I have ever seen this before with me. I had alittle of the soup that I had made yesterday since breakfast and I stepped on the scale and I am up another 2 lbs.. so that is actually 5 more lbs. Wow. I can say today I am the heaviest I have ever been in my life and I have been eating less and working out. I can't dwell on it too much right now. I am doing too much correctly but I am very puzzled at what I see. Dianne > > > Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had > > > answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a while. > I > > > missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > > > > > > > Ang, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Ya. I know I watched the scale climb and climb to my high point I couldn't stop it. I was so scared because I didn't want to be that obese, and at the same I was afraid to diet because every time I did I just put on even more weight. I went from scared and desperate to completely giving up and deciding I'd just get a divorce if I had to (so my husband wouldn't see me like that), and just become a home bound person who did nothing but eat and gain weight. I went back and forth all day everyday, eat and give up - then scared and starve. The only thing I could do is to finaly stop diets, forget about it completely. I had to focus on living long enough to raise my new baby and that's all that mattered to me at that point. Ang > > > > Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had > > > > answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > while. > > I > > > > missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > > > > > > > > > Ang, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Ya. I know I watched the scale climb and climb to my high point I couldn't stop it. I was so scared because I didn't want to be that obese, and at the same I was afraid to diet because every time I did I just put on even more weight. I went from scared and desperate to completely giving up and deciding I'd just get a divorce if I had to (so my husband wouldn't see me like that), and just become a home bound person who did nothing but eat and gain weight. I went back and forth all day everyday, eat and give up - then scared and starve. The only thing I could do is to finaly stop diets, forget about it completely. I had to focus on living long enough to raise my new baby and that's all that mattered to me at that point. Ang > > > > Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had > > > > answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > while. > > I > > > > missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > > > > > > > > > Ang, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Ya. I know I watched the scale climb and climb to my high point I couldn't stop it. I was so scared because I didn't want to be that obese, and at the same I was afraid to diet because every time I did I just put on even more weight. I went from scared and desperate to completely giving up and deciding I'd just get a divorce if I had to (so my husband wouldn't see me like that), and just become a home bound person who did nothing but eat and gain weight. I went back and forth all day everyday, eat and give up - then scared and starve. The only thing I could do is to finaly stop diets, forget about it completely. I had to focus on living long enough to raise my new baby and that's all that mattered to me at that point. Ang > > > > Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had > > > > answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > while. > > I > > > > missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > > > > > > > > > Ang, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Dianne, It's just the salt in the soup. Drink alot of water today, get some good cardio in if you can and eat some celery, works for me every time. The celery is a good diuretic, so is watermelon. Gena > Hi Ang, > > Yeah, this is scary. Not sure if I have ever seen this before with > me. I had alittle of the soup that I had made yesterday since > breakfast and I stepped on the scale and I am up another 2 lbs.. so > that is actually 5 more lbs. Wow. I can say today I am the heaviest > I have ever been in my life and I have been eating less and working > out. I can't dwell on it too much right now. I am doing too much > correctly but I am very puzzled at what I see. > > Dianne > > >>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I had >>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > while. >> I >>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) >>>> >>>>> Ang, >>>> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 i am the same way, what's gone is gone and good for me, but i still see what's there as well. my mom actually commented on my weight loss this weekend which made me feel good untill we went shopping and i saw this ugly belly in the mirror, that was all celulite looking, roled up in a few areas, and i couldn't see my bellybutton the whoel way. it just upset me. i want a belly button, i want to lose mybelly. i love the rest of my body and feel i'm doing good losing weight but id o want to get rid of this belly and it's frustrating not to notice things yoruself. > >>>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I > > had > >>>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > >> while. > >>> I > >>>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ang, > >>>>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 You have realy done great :-) But I know what you mean about wondering why you don't feel so great. I go back and forth. I'm excited and feel great about myself - then some days instead of seeing how great I look I only see how great I don't look. Some times I think - WOW I can whear a 13/14 - size 34 waist! Then other days I think - man - 34 waist??? 170 pounds??? Am I nuts? How can I think I look good? I'm only 5'2 " for heavens sake! But sinse I like feeling good vs. bad - I try to stay there. I realy think attitude makes a big difference for me. I have found that certain clothing makes me feel better than other and I try to dress nice every day. Big change from 25 - 50 pounds ago. Then I would wear huge t-shirts (most of them so old) and big baggy jogging pants. Even if I weren't fat I'd have still looked horrible. Ang > >>>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I > > had > >>>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > >> while. > >>> I > >>>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ang, > >>>>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 You have realy done great :-) But I know what you mean about wondering why you don't feel so great. I go back and forth. I'm excited and feel great about myself - then some days instead of seeing how great I look I only see how great I don't look. Some times I think - WOW I can whear a 13/14 - size 34 waist! Then other days I think - man - 34 waist??? 170 pounds??? Am I nuts? How can I think I look good? I'm only 5'2 " for heavens sake! But sinse I like feeling good vs. bad - I try to stay there. I realy think attitude makes a big difference for me. I have found that certain clothing makes me feel better than other and I try to dress nice every day. Big change from 25 - 50 pounds ago. Then I would wear huge t-shirts (most of them so old) and big baggy jogging pants. Even if I weren't fat I'd have still looked horrible. Ang > >>>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I > > had > >>>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > >> while. > >>> I > >>>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ang, > >>>>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 You have realy done great :-) But I know what you mean about wondering why you don't feel so great. I go back and forth. I'm excited and feel great about myself - then some days instead of seeing how great I look I only see how great I don't look. Some times I think - WOW I can whear a 13/14 - size 34 waist! Then other days I think - man - 34 waist??? 170 pounds??? Am I nuts? How can I think I look good? I'm only 5'2 " for heavens sake! But sinse I like feeling good vs. bad - I try to stay there. I realy think attitude makes a big difference for me. I have found that certain clothing makes me feel better than other and I try to dress nice every day. Big change from 25 - 50 pounds ago. Then I would wear huge t-shirts (most of them so old) and big baggy jogging pants. Even if I weren't fat I'd have still looked horrible. Ang > >>>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I > > had > >>>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > >> while. > >>> I > >>>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ang, > >>>>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 , Exactly! I don't know what these people are seeing. Sometimes I think they are just being nice, I don't know. I know I look better but still have a long ways to go. It's nice to get the weight loss recognized but I know I don't look as good as people are saying I do, yet. I wont be happy until my belly has gone down more and I can wear shirts without worrying about my ugly flappy belly hanging out. I envy people who can wear short midriff shirts! I don't know how much more I need to lose to get rid of it but I guess when I'm there, I'm there. Just have to keep focused. I got slack after reaching 200. i kind of let it get to my head that I have lost so much but enough of that. I'm trying to get back on track and work on the last of it. Gena >> >>> >>> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 to getto my goal it's about 50 lbs or so of weight, but it's about 6- 7 inches of waist, and to me it looks like abotu thirty pounds hanging there, but i'm probably exagerating, who knows maybe it is. but maybe it's only ten or fifteen, i won't know till i get there as well. today i'm much more positive and i know i can and will do this. > , > Exactly! I don't know what these people are seeing. Sometimes I think > they are just being nice, I don't know. I know I look better but still > have a long ways to go. It's nice to get the weight loss recognized but > I know I don't look as good as people are saying I do, yet. I wont be > happy until my belly has gone down more and I can wear shirts without > worrying about my ugly flappy belly hanging out. I envy people who can > wear short midriff shirts! I don't know how much more I need to lose to > get rid of it but I guess when I'm there, I'm there. Just have to keep > focused. I got slack after reaching 200. i kind of let it get to my > head that I have lost so much but enough of that. I'm trying to get > back on track and work on the last of it. > > Gena > > >> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Ang, Oh yes, big baggy, cover up things! I'm all too familiar with those. My belly still really bugs me so I still go for longer shirts but not as baggy anymore. I'm very self conscious though and if I feel something shows my belly too much I wont wear it. I am so dang thick waisted I hate it! I have no butt, skinny legs but a 40 inch waist! I can wear those pants that look like denim but are stretchy in a 14-16, some 18 but I'm not real comfortable. Most of my tops are 14-16 or X large. I think I will be happy to get to a 10-12 in pants. I can't imagine losing much more on top, I have big boobs. It's weird, when I'm doing laundry or taking out a shirt it's like this looks soo small???! It can't possibly fit! Then I put it on and it does. It's weird, I still don't believe I'm that size ya know? Gena > You have realy done great :-) > But I know what you mean about wondering why you don't feel so > great. I go back and forth. I'm excited and feel great about > myself - then some days instead of seeing how great I look I only see > how great I don't look. Some times I think - WOW I can whear a > 13/14 - size 34 waist! Then other days I think - man - 34 waist??? > 170 pounds??? Am I nuts? How can I think I look good? I'm only > 5'2 " for heavens sake! > But sinse I like feeling good vs. bad - I try to stay there. I realy > think attitude makes a big difference for me. > I have found that certain clothing makes me feel better than other > and I try to dress nice every day. Big change from 25 - 50 pounds > ago. Then I would wear huge t-shirts (most of them so old) and big > baggy jogging pants. Even if I weren't fat I'd have still looked > horrible. > Ang > > >>>>>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I >>> had >>>>>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a >>>> while. >>>>> I >>>>>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ang, >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Ang, Oh yes, big baggy, cover up things! I'm all too familiar with those. My belly still really bugs me so I still go for longer shirts but not as baggy anymore. I'm very self conscious though and if I feel something shows my belly too much I wont wear it. I am so dang thick waisted I hate it! I have no butt, skinny legs but a 40 inch waist! I can wear those pants that look like denim but are stretchy in a 14-16, some 18 but I'm not real comfortable. Most of my tops are 14-16 or X large. I think I will be happy to get to a 10-12 in pants. I can't imagine losing much more on top, I have big boobs. It's weird, when I'm doing laundry or taking out a shirt it's like this looks soo small???! It can't possibly fit! Then I put it on and it does. It's weird, I still don't believe I'm that size ya know? Gena > You have realy done great :-) > But I know what you mean about wondering why you don't feel so > great. I go back and forth. I'm excited and feel great about > myself - then some days instead of seeing how great I look I only see > how great I don't look. Some times I think - WOW I can whear a > 13/14 - size 34 waist! Then other days I think - man - 34 waist??? > 170 pounds??? Am I nuts? How can I think I look good? I'm only > 5'2 " for heavens sake! > But sinse I like feeling good vs. bad - I try to stay there. I realy > think attitude makes a big difference for me. > I have found that certain clothing makes me feel better than other > and I try to dress nice every day. Big change from 25 - 50 pounds > ago. Then I would wear huge t-shirts (most of them so old) and big > baggy jogging pants. Even if I weren't fat I'd have still looked > horrible. > Ang > > >>>>>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I >>> had >>>>>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a >>>> while. >>>>> I >>>>>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ang, >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Oh I know! I look at my belly and think there is atleast 30 lbs right there! Then there is the flab on my back, butt and arms, yuck! We can do it. One day at a time. Stay positive, that's right! Gena > > to getto my goal it's about 50 lbs or so of weight, but it's about 6- > 7 inches of waist, and to me it looks like abotu thirty pounds > hanging there, but i'm probably exagerating, who knows maybe it is. > but maybe it's only ten or fifteen, i won't know till i get there as > well. today i'm much more positive and i know i can and will do this. > > >> , >> Exactly! I don't know what these people are seeing. Sometimes I > think >> they are just being nice, I don't know. I know I look better but > still >> have a long ways to go. It's nice to get the weight loss recognized > but >> I know I don't look as good as people are saying I do, yet. I wont > be >> happy until my belly has gone down more and I can wear shirts > without >> worrying about my ugly flappy belly hanging out. I envy people who > can >> wear short midriff shirts! I don't know how much more I need to > lose to >> get rid of it but I guess when I'm there, I'm there. Just have to > keep >> focused. I got slack after reaching 200. i kind of let it get to > my >> head that I have lost so much but enough of that. I'm trying to > get >> back on track and work on the last of it. >> >> Gena >> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Oh I know! I look at my belly and think there is atleast 30 lbs right there! Then there is the flab on my back, butt and arms, yuck! We can do it. One day at a time. Stay positive, that's right! Gena > > to getto my goal it's about 50 lbs or so of weight, but it's about 6- > 7 inches of waist, and to me it looks like abotu thirty pounds > hanging there, but i'm probably exagerating, who knows maybe it is. > but maybe it's only ten or fifteen, i won't know till i get there as > well. today i'm much more positive and i know i can and will do this. > > >> , >> Exactly! I don't know what these people are seeing. Sometimes I > think >> they are just being nice, I don't know. I know I look better but > still >> have a long ways to go. It's nice to get the weight loss recognized > but >> I know I don't look as good as people are saying I do, yet. I wont > be >> happy until my belly has gone down more and I can wear shirts > without >> worrying about my ugly flappy belly hanging out. I envy people who > can >> wear short midriff shirts! I don't know how much more I need to > lose to >> get rid of it but I guess when I'm there, I'm there. Just have to > keep >> focused. I got slack after reaching 200. i kind of let it get to > my >> head that I have lost so much but enough of that. I'm trying to > get >> back on track and work on the last of it. >> >> Gena >> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Oh I know! I look at my belly and think there is atleast 30 lbs right there! Then there is the flab on my back, butt and arms, yuck! We can do it. One day at a time. Stay positive, that's right! Gena > > to getto my goal it's about 50 lbs or so of weight, but it's about 6- > 7 inches of waist, and to me it looks like abotu thirty pounds > hanging there, but i'm probably exagerating, who knows maybe it is. > but maybe it's only ten or fifteen, i won't know till i get there as > well. today i'm much more positive and i know i can and will do this. > > >> , >> Exactly! I don't know what these people are seeing. Sometimes I > think >> they are just being nice, I don't know. I know I look better but > still >> have a long ways to go. It's nice to get the weight loss recognized > but >> I know I don't look as good as people are saying I do, yet. I wont > be >> happy until my belly has gone down more and I can wear shirts > without >> worrying about my ugly flappy belly hanging out. I envy people who > can >> wear short midriff shirts! I don't know how much more I need to > lose to >> get rid of it but I guess when I'm there, I'm there. Just have to > keep >> focused. I got slack after reaching 200. i kind of let it get to > my >> head that I have lost so much but enough of that. I'm trying to > get >> back on track and work on the last of it. >> >> Gena >> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 I think I have a distorted body image. I Try not to judge my body, but instead remember when I liked the way I looked and shoot for a goal of those clothing. Ang > > , > > Exactly! I don't know what these people are seeing. Sometimes I > think > > they are just being nice, I don't know. I know I look better but > still > > have a long ways to go. It's nice to get the weight loss recognized > but > > I know I don't look as good as people are saying I do, yet. I wont > be > > happy until my belly has gone down more and I can wear shirts > without > > worrying about my ugly flappy belly hanging out. I envy people who > can > > wear short midriff shirts! I don't know how much more I need to > lose to > > get rid of it but I guess when I'm there, I'm there. Just have to > keep > > focused. I got slack after reaching 200. i kind of let it get to > my > > head that I have lost so much but enough of that. I'm trying to > get > > back on track and work on the last of it. > > > > Gena > > > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 I know what you mean! And before - I'd do the laundry and run hide it - put it away quick because it looked so huge! Now, (whispered) there are a few dresses that are clingy like and when not on me the look so tiny - I leave them right on top the basket! LOL Love those boobs now - before long they may dissapear :-( I kept mine for the longest time, then all of the sudden they disapeared! From a DD to a B :-( Freaks me out! Ang > >>>>>>> Sure. And no problem at all with the questions. I felt I > >>> had > >>>>>>> answered them all and didn't keep up with the group for a > >>>> while. > >>>>> I > >>>>>>> missed it (and the extra motivation :-) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ang, > >>>>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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