Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Kat--- That is MY definition of a binge!! I once ate a WHOLE box of sugary cereal (cereal used to be my trigger food), I consider a binge eating a whole loaf of home-made bread with cinnamon and sugar and butter on it, or a whole bag of reeces pb cups or 1/2 a batch of chocolate chips cookies... just anything you INHALE or when you eat and feel completely out of control and feel as if you can't stop eating... its kind of an out of body experience-- or at least it is for me.. I SEE myself eating, and say to myself, " Nat, stop eating you're going to regret it later and you will NOT feel good " but is SO HARD to stop eating when you're in that mindset. I call it " The Zone. " > > > > > > If I try and stop a binge I will do it anyway and a lot worse > later. > > Regualr natural eaters binge sometimes. I really think anything we > > lable as a " Don't do " , becomes a fobidden fruit. > > I just had a pizza binge 20 minutes ago. It was about 4 pieces , > 2of > > which I am sure I really didnt need but I trust my body will even > it > > out later. I enjoyed it and I let myself do it. I didnt tell myself > I > > was bad or disgusting. > > I may not have much for breakfast, i may not have my occasional > late > > night snack but not because I wont let myself due to the pizza > binge, > > but because It may have no appeal to me. > > For me to give myself complete permission to have what I want when > I > > want, even if it I really want it but I am not hungry, takes all > the > > apsects of forbidden fruit and thus fear away. > > If I think I am depriving myself of anything (even a binge)I feel > > afraid and so I just tell myself I can have it and trust my body to > > adjust itself. > > > > The times when I have gone on binge cycles are usualy because I try > > to " Control " it in the first place. > > There really is no control in normal eating. > > > > A food that was always a big tempation to me was home made > chocolate > > chip cookies. I baked some yesterday and I have had a couple. > > Since they are there and I give myself full permission to have > them, > > even just for taste and pleasure, its nice that they are there but > Im > > not tempted. > > It only works for me though if I know I can have it no matter what. > > Hope thats of some help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Kat--- That is MY definition of a binge!! I once ate a WHOLE box of sugary cereal (cereal used to be my trigger food), I consider a binge eating a whole loaf of home-made bread with cinnamon and sugar and butter on it, or a whole bag of reeces pb cups or 1/2 a batch of chocolate chips cookies... just anything you INHALE or when you eat and feel completely out of control and feel as if you can't stop eating... its kind of an out of body experience-- or at least it is for me.. I SEE myself eating, and say to myself, " Nat, stop eating you're going to regret it later and you will NOT feel good " but is SO HARD to stop eating when you're in that mindset. I call it " The Zone. " > > > > > > If I try and stop a binge I will do it anyway and a lot worse > later. > > Regualr natural eaters binge sometimes. I really think anything we > > lable as a " Don't do " , becomes a fobidden fruit. > > I just had a pizza binge 20 minutes ago. It was about 4 pieces , > 2of > > which I am sure I really didnt need but I trust my body will even > it > > out later. I enjoyed it and I let myself do it. I didnt tell myself > I > > was bad or disgusting. > > I may not have much for breakfast, i may not have my occasional > late > > night snack but not because I wont let myself due to the pizza > binge, > > but because It may have no appeal to me. > > For me to give myself complete permission to have what I want when > I > > want, even if it I really want it but I am not hungry, takes all > the > > apsects of forbidden fruit and thus fear away. > > If I think I am depriving myself of anything (even a binge)I feel > > afraid and so I just tell myself I can have it and trust my body to > > adjust itself. > > > > The times when I have gone on binge cycles are usualy because I try > > to " Control " it in the first place. > > There really is no control in normal eating. > > > > A food that was always a big tempation to me was home made > chocolate > > chip cookies. I baked some yesterday and I have had a couple. > > Since they are there and I give myself full permission to have > them, > > even just for taste and pleasure, its nice that they are there but > Im > > not tempted. > > It only works for me though if I know I can have it no matter what. > > Hope thats of some help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Kat--- That is MY definition of a binge!! I once ate a WHOLE box of sugary cereal (cereal used to be my trigger food), I consider a binge eating a whole loaf of home-made bread with cinnamon and sugar and butter on it, or a whole bag of reeces pb cups or 1/2 a batch of chocolate chips cookies... just anything you INHALE or when you eat and feel completely out of control and feel as if you can't stop eating... its kind of an out of body experience-- or at least it is for me.. I SEE myself eating, and say to myself, " Nat, stop eating you're going to regret it later and you will NOT feel good " but is SO HARD to stop eating when you're in that mindset. I call it " The Zone. " > > > > > > If I try and stop a binge I will do it anyway and a lot worse > later. > > Regualr natural eaters binge sometimes. I really think anything we > > lable as a " Don't do " , becomes a fobidden fruit. > > I just had a pizza binge 20 minutes ago. It was about 4 pieces , > 2of > > which I am sure I really didnt need but I trust my body will even > it > > out later. I enjoyed it and I let myself do it. I didnt tell myself > I > > was bad or disgusting. > > I may not have much for breakfast, i may not have my occasional > late > > night snack but not because I wont let myself due to the pizza > binge, > > but because It may have no appeal to me. > > For me to give myself complete permission to have what I want when > I > > want, even if it I really want it but I am not hungry, takes all > the > > apsects of forbidden fruit and thus fear away. > > If I think I am depriving myself of anything (even a binge)I feel > > afraid and so I just tell myself I can have it and trust my body to > > adjust itself. > > > > The times when I have gone on binge cycles are usualy because I try > > to " Control " it in the first place. > > There really is no control in normal eating. > > > > A food that was always a big tempation to me was home made > chocolate > > chip cookies. I baked some yesterday and I have had a couple. > > Since they are there and I give myself full permission to have > them, > > even just for taste and pleasure, its nice that they are there but > Im > > not tempted. > > It only works for me though if I know I can have it no matter what. > > Hope thats of some help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I agree...I don't think binging is really about what or how much food is involved...it's more about the thought process for me. Eating a lot and being satisfied with what you ate in the end would not be a binge. I'd be happy with stopping at satisfaction. Binging doesn't result in any sort of satisfaction to me...that's why I keep on eating more and more until some external factor stops me...run out of food or can't physically eat more. When those external factors are gone, I go right back to more binging and still being unsatisfied until I hit those same external factors again. > > > > > > If I try and stop a binge I will do it anyway and a lot worse > later. > > Regualr natural eaters binge sometimes. I really think anything we > > lable as a " Don't do " , becomes a fobidden fruit. > > I just had a pizza binge 20 minutes ago. It was about 4 pieces , > 2of > > which I am sure I really didnt need but I trust my body will even > it > > out later. I enjoyed it and I let myself do it. I didnt tell myself > I > > was bad or disgusting. > > I may not have much for breakfast, i may not have my occasional > late > > night snack but not because I wont let myself due to the pizza > binge, > > but because It may have no appeal to me. > > For me to give myself complete permission to have what I want when > I > > want, even if it I really want it but I am not hungry, takes all > the > > apsects of forbidden fruit and thus fear away. > > If I think I am depriving myself of anything (even a binge)I feel > > afraid and so I just tell myself I can have it and trust my body to > > adjust itself. > > > > The times when I have gone on binge cycles are usualy because I try > > to " Control " it in the first place. > > There really is no control in normal eating. > > > > A food that was always a big tempation to me was home made > chocolate > > chip cookies. I baked some yesterday and I have had a couple. > > Since they are there and I give myself full permission to have > them, > > even just for taste and pleasure, its nice that they are there but > Im > > not tempted. > > It only works for me though if I know I can have it no matter what. > > Hope thats of some help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I agree...I don't think binging is really about what or how much food is involved...it's more about the thought process for me. Eating a lot and being satisfied with what you ate in the end would not be a binge. I'd be happy with stopping at satisfaction. Binging doesn't result in any sort of satisfaction to me...that's why I keep on eating more and more until some external factor stops me...run out of food or can't physically eat more. When those external factors are gone, I go right back to more binging and still being unsatisfied until I hit those same external factors again. > > > > > > If I try and stop a binge I will do it anyway and a lot worse > later. > > Regualr natural eaters binge sometimes. I really think anything we > > lable as a " Don't do " , becomes a fobidden fruit. > > I just had a pizza binge 20 minutes ago. It was about 4 pieces , > 2of > > which I am sure I really didnt need but I trust my body will even > it > > out later. I enjoyed it and I let myself do it. I didnt tell myself > I > > was bad or disgusting. > > I may not have much for breakfast, i may not have my occasional > late > > night snack but not because I wont let myself due to the pizza > binge, > > but because It may have no appeal to me. > > For me to give myself complete permission to have what I want when > I > > want, even if it I really want it but I am not hungry, takes all > the > > apsects of forbidden fruit and thus fear away. > > If I think I am depriving myself of anything (even a binge)I feel > > afraid and so I just tell myself I can have it and trust my body to > > adjust itself. > > > > The times when I have gone on binge cycles are usualy because I try > > to " Control " it in the first place. > > There really is no control in normal eating. > > > > A food that was always a big tempation to me was home made > chocolate > > chip cookies. I baked some yesterday and I have had a couple. > > Since they are there and I give myself full permission to have > them, > > even just for taste and pleasure, its nice that they are there but > Im > > not tempted. > > It only works for me though if I know I can have it no matter what. > > Hope thats of some help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 EXACTLY! I know exactly what you mean by the " Zone. " It's like you're being drugged or something! > > > > > > > > > If I try and stop a binge I will do it anyway and a lot worse > > later. > > > Regualr natural eaters binge sometimes. I really think anything we > > > lable as a " Don't do " , becomes a fobidden fruit. > > > I just had a pizza binge 20 minutes ago. It was about 4 pieces , > > 2of > > > which I am sure I really didnt need but I trust my body will even > > it > > > out later. I enjoyed it and I let myself do it. I didnt tell myself > > I > > > was bad or disgusting. > > > I may not have much for breakfast, i may not have my occasional > > late > > > night snack but not because I wont let myself due to the pizza > > binge, > > > but because It may have no appeal to me. > > > For me to give myself complete permission to have what I want when > > I > > > want, even if it I really want it but I am not hungry, takes all > > the > > > apsects of forbidden fruit and thus fear away. > > > If I think I am depriving myself of anything (even a binge)I feel > > > afraid and so I just tell myself I can have it and trust my body to > > > adjust itself. > > > > > > The times when I have gone on binge cycles are usualy because I try > > > to " Control " it in the first place. > > > There really is no control in normal eating. > > > > > > A food that was always a big tempation to me was home made > > chocolate > > > chip cookies. I baked some yesterday and I have had a couple. > > > Since they are there and I give myself full permission to have > > them, > > > even just for taste and pleasure, its nice that they are there but > > Im > > > not tempted. > > > It only works for me though if I know I can have it no matter what. > > > Hope thats of some help. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 So does " Last Supper " eating constitute a binge? I find that even now (okay, I'm still in the early stages of IE), I am prone to that desperate Last Supper style of eating that plagued me while on WW. I would allow myself just one " splurge " night - Saturday, the day of my weigh in - when I would go to a restaurant with my family and eat anything I would not allow myself to eat during the week. I compulsively cleaned my plate, in spite of feeling full to the point of discomfort, and would follow up with a dessert that I definitely had no room for but felt I had to eat because I would not have it during the week. I'd eat huge portions of foods that I didn't always crave at that moment just because they were forbidden at any other time. Anyway, because we still eat out on Saturday nights, I find myself lapsing into that mode of eating. I don't eat as much as I did and am honoring my cravings - last time we ate out, I ordered what my body wanted, grilled salmon and a salad. While in WW mode, I would have ignored my true cravings and forced myself to order the fattiest, heaviest foods on the menu because they were forbidden at other times. Although I am no longer eating to the point of almost being sick, I am still concerned that I overeat but am not sure how to combat this tendency. Any advice? > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to emotional > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was very > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found would lead > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with myself > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, and > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It feels > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) activity to > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 So does " Last Supper " eating constitute a binge? I find that even now (okay, I'm still in the early stages of IE), I am prone to that desperate Last Supper style of eating that plagued me while on WW. I would allow myself just one " splurge " night - Saturday, the day of my weigh in - when I would go to a restaurant with my family and eat anything I would not allow myself to eat during the week. I compulsively cleaned my plate, in spite of feeling full to the point of discomfort, and would follow up with a dessert that I definitely had no room for but felt I had to eat because I would not have it during the week. I'd eat huge portions of foods that I didn't always crave at that moment just because they were forbidden at any other time. Anyway, because we still eat out on Saturday nights, I find myself lapsing into that mode of eating. I don't eat as much as I did and am honoring my cravings - last time we ate out, I ordered what my body wanted, grilled salmon and a salad. While in WW mode, I would have ignored my true cravings and forced myself to order the fattiest, heaviest foods on the menu because they were forbidden at other times. Although I am no longer eating to the point of almost being sick, I am still concerned that I overeat but am not sure how to combat this tendency. Any advice? > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to emotional > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was very > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found would lead > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with myself > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, and > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It feels > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) activity to > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Normally I think of a binge as an eating experience where I have some desperate need, which I think can be met with some food or other. In a panic, I keep eating and eating, trying to find that one food that's going to make the need feel met. I'm barely aware of what I'm eating, how it's tasting, or whether I'm hungry. It's usually not until it gets painful that I think I finally realize that no food is going to make that desperate need feel met. I've noticed lately, however, that my binges are much shorter, cover a smaller group of foods, and I sometimes stop before the pain. This is progress, and I'm glad to be able to recognize it. So, to me, 4 slices of pizza at a meal wouldn't be a binge either, probably. However, if I were wolfing them down without tasting them, purely in response to that strange desperation, then I would call them a binge. > > > > > > If I try and stop a binge I will do it anyway and a lot worse > later. > > Regualr natural eaters binge sometimes. I really think anything we > > lable as a " Don't do " , becomes a fobidden fruit. > > I just had a pizza binge 20 minutes ago. It was about 4 pieces , > 2of > > which I am sure I really didnt need but I trust my body will even > it > > out later. I enjoyed it and I let myself do it. I didnt tell myself > I > > was bad or disgusting. > > I may not have much for breakfast, i may not have my occasional > late > > night snack but not because I wont let myself due to the pizza > binge, > > but because It may have no appeal to me. > > For me to give myself complete permission to have what I want when > I > > want, even if it I really want it but I am not hungry, takes all > the > > apsects of forbidden fruit and thus fear away. > > If I think I am depriving myself of anything (even a binge)I feel > > afraid and so I just tell myself I can have it and trust my body to > > adjust itself. > > > > The times when I have gone on binge cycles are usualy because I try > > to " Control " it in the first place. > > There really is no control in normal eating. > > > > A food that was always a big tempation to me was home made > chocolate > > chip cookies. I baked some yesterday and I have had a couple. > > Since they are there and I give myself full permission to have > them, > > even just for taste and pleasure, its nice that they are there but > Im > > not tempted. > > It only works for me though if I know I can have it no matter what. > > Hope thats of some help. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you are lapsing into that mode of eating. What mode of eating is that? You mention that you are no longer forcing yourself to eat forbidden foods that you don't want, so what are you doing now? If you are now eating what you really want as opposed to what is forbidden, I don't think I would call that last supper eating, would you? Is this restaurant out time the only time you allow yourself to eat what you want? Sorry, I'm sort of confused. > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to emotional > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was very > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found would lead > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with myself > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, and > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It feels > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) activity to > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you are lapsing into that mode of eating. What mode of eating is that? You mention that you are no longer forcing yourself to eat forbidden foods that you don't want, so what are you doing now? If you are now eating what you really want as opposed to what is forbidden, I don't think I would call that last supper eating, would you? Is this restaurant out time the only time you allow yourself to eat what you want? Sorry, I'm sort of confused. > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to emotional > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was very > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found would lead > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with myself > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, and > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It feels > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) activity to > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 By lapsing, I meant that I feel I go back into that Last Supper mode of eating when I overeat on Saturday nights at the restaurant. And yes, the restaurant out time is the " official " venue for eating what I want. That is not to say that I deprive myself during the week - if I want cookies, I'll have them - but I generally eat homecooked meals both for lunch and dinner. > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to emotional > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was very > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found would lead > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with myself > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, and > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It feels > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) activity to > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Are you positive that you are allowing yourself to eat ANY food when you're at the restaurant? Maybe you still haven't fully legalized ALL restaurant foods. Because if I go to a restaurant and order something I LOVE that I used to forbid, I find that I'm really concentrating on the food and I eat much less (so no overeating). But, if I get a " safe food, " it's harder to pay attention to it, and I might eat more. Did any of that make sense? > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to > emotional > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was > very > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found > would lead > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with > myself > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, > and > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > whatsoever. I > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It > feels > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) > activity to > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I definitely eat forbidden foods in restaurants, so I don't think that's the issue. I think the habit of overeating in a restaurant and feeling that I can only eat those forbidden foods at that time is the problem. > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to > > emotional > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was > > very > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found > > would lead > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated > with > > myself > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the > store, > > and > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > whatsoever. I > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It > > feels > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) > > activity to > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I definitely eat forbidden foods in restaurants, so I don't think that's the issue. I think the habit of overeating in a restaurant and feeling that I can only eat those forbidden foods at that time is the problem. > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to > > emotional > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was > > very > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found > > would lead > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated > with > > myself > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the > store, > > and > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > whatsoever. I > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It > > feels > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) > > activity to > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 So, you say " I think the habit of overeating in a restaurant and feeling that I can only eat those forbidden foods at that time is the problem. " and you say: " That is not to say that I deprive myself during the week - if I want cookies, I'll have them - but I generally eat homecooked meals both for lunch and dinner. " These seem to be in conflict, right. Clearly, you are depriving yourself of something you want during the week if the only time you can have these forbidden foods is at the restaurant, right? So, why are the home cooked meals not what " you want " ? Is it because someone ELSE is choosing what you eat for you? Is someone else cooking for you or choosing what you eat? Maybe it would help to contribute to the decision on what you eat during the week. Then restaurant time won't be the ONLY time that what you eat is under your control. In addition, restaurants serve too much food...at home, it is easier to have a smaller portion on your plate. It's human nature to eat more when more is in front of you...so don't beat yourself up too much about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to > > > emotional > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it > was > > > very > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found > > > would lead > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated > > with > > > myself > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the > > store, > > > and > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was > so > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. > It > > > feels > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) > > > activity to > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 So, you say " I think the habit of overeating in a restaurant and feeling that I can only eat those forbidden foods at that time is the problem. " and you say: " That is not to say that I deprive myself during the week - if I want cookies, I'll have them - but I generally eat homecooked meals both for lunch and dinner. " These seem to be in conflict, right. Clearly, you are depriving yourself of something you want during the week if the only time you can have these forbidden foods is at the restaurant, right? So, why are the home cooked meals not what " you want " ? Is it because someone ELSE is choosing what you eat for you? Is someone else cooking for you or choosing what you eat? Maybe it would help to contribute to the decision on what you eat during the week. Then restaurant time won't be the ONLY time that what you eat is under your control. In addition, restaurants serve too much food...at home, it is easier to have a smaller portion on your plate. It's human nature to eat more when more is in front of you...so don't beat yourself up too much about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to > > > emotional > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it > was > > > very > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found > > > would lead > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated > > with > > > myself > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the > > store, > > > and > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was > so > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. > It > > > feels > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) > > > activity to > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 So, you say " I think the habit of overeating in a restaurant and feeling that I can only eat those forbidden foods at that time is the problem. " and you say: " That is not to say that I deprive myself during the week - if I want cookies, I'll have them - but I generally eat homecooked meals both for lunch and dinner. " These seem to be in conflict, right. Clearly, you are depriving yourself of something you want during the week if the only time you can have these forbidden foods is at the restaurant, right? So, why are the home cooked meals not what " you want " ? Is it because someone ELSE is choosing what you eat for you? Is someone else cooking for you or choosing what you eat? Maybe it would help to contribute to the decision on what you eat during the week. Then restaurant time won't be the ONLY time that what you eat is under your control. In addition, restaurants serve too much food...at home, it is easier to have a smaller portion on your plate. It's human nature to eat more when more is in front of you...so don't beat yourself up too much about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to > > > emotional > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it > was > > > very > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found > > > would lead > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated > > with > > > myself > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the > > store, > > > and > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was > so > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. > It > > > feels > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) > > > activity to > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Nat, I'm totally with you. I also am a few weeks out of a six month diet/binge cycle (dieting all week, binging on the weekends) and am finding alternate ways to cope. Knitting is a great hobby and pretty easy to master (the basic anyway!). Sometimes I just buy a couple of balls of yarn at Walmart and just start to knit. Not with a specific goal in mind (like a sweater or a scarf) as that's too time consuming for me right now (bogged down with teaching and grad school) but just knitting. The action with my hands helps calm me. These past few weeks I'm doing more yoga. Nothing elaborate - just 10 minutes or so a night of the basics. I find it's really helping me cope with stress and keeping me away from the binges. Also, I find that if a craving to binge hits, if I premake dinner, even if I'm not going to eat it for a few hours yet, then it's easier to stay away, knowing I have something ready that I just have to heat up. Tam > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to emotional > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was very > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found would lead > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with myself > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, and > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It feels > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) activity to > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Nat, I'm totally with you. I also am a few weeks out of a six month diet/binge cycle (dieting all week, binging on the weekends) and am finding alternate ways to cope. Knitting is a great hobby and pretty easy to master (the basic anyway!). Sometimes I just buy a couple of balls of yarn at Walmart and just start to knit. Not with a specific goal in mind (like a sweater or a scarf) as that's too time consuming for me right now (bogged down with teaching and grad school) but just knitting. The action with my hands helps calm me. These past few weeks I'm doing more yoga. Nothing elaborate - just 10 minutes or so a night of the basics. I find it's really helping me cope with stress and keeping me away from the binges. Also, I find that if a craving to binge hits, if I premake dinner, even if I'm not going to eat it for a few hours yet, then it's easier to stay away, knowing I have something ready that I just have to heat up. Tam > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to emotional > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it was very > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found would lead > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated with myself > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the store, and > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability whatsoever. I > > came home and started to just create random things. It was so > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. It feels > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) activity to > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Actually, I am the master of what I eat at home and prepare for the entire family. After reading your comment, I do believe I might still be restricting or limiting myself at home during the week such that the Saturday night restaurant meal is a release, celebration, etc. I find it's difficult to eat according to my craving during the week as I have to shop and prep dinners for the family ahead of time. I also think I am imposing restrictions on the types of food I allow myself to eat during the week, but I'm still too frightened to take a big plunge in the other direction. Any advice? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives to > > > > emotional > > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and it > > was > > > > very > > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I found > > > > would lead > > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more frustrated > > > with > > > > myself > > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to the > > > store, > > > > and > > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It was > > so > > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of binging. > > It > > > > feels > > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any moment) > > > > activity to > > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 So, what is the diff between what you cook during the week and what is available at the restaurant? Is it an ingredient or a way the food is presented? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives > to > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and > it > > > was > > > > > very > > > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I > found > > > > > would lead > > > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more > frustrated > > > > with > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to > the > > > > store, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It > was > > > so > > > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of > binging. > > > It > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any > moment) > > > > > activity to > > > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 So, what is the diff between what you cook during the week and what is available at the restaurant? Is it an ingredient or a way the food is presented? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives > to > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and > it > > > was > > > > > very > > > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I > found > > > > > would lead > > > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more > frustrated > > > > with > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to > the > > > > store, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It > was > > > so > > > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of > binging. > > > It > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any > moment) > > > > > activity to > > > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 So, what is the diff between what you cook during the week and what is available at the restaurant? Is it an ingredient or a way the food is presented? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives > to > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and > it > > > was > > > > > very > > > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I > found > > > > > would lead > > > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more > frustrated > > > > with > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to > the > > > > store, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It > was > > > so > > > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of > binging. > > > It > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any > moment) > > > > > activity to > > > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 I've thought about this a lot since posting and hearing your comments. I truly feel that the restaurant meal is a whole experience for me - one of release, celebration, and relaxation. At home, during the week, I am eating with the family but not as relaxed due to kids' evening demands of homework, bed time, etc. I also recognize now that I overeat to comfort myself - I am not necesarily depressed or angry or avoiding anything, I just find something warm and fuzzy in eating, and the experience somehow allows me to relax. What do you make of this? Is it terrible to seek comfort in food as I have been? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What kind of activities have you tried as alternatives > > to > > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > > > eating? What worked for you and what did not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently, I found myself in a pattern of binging, and > > it > > > > was > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > depressing. Every bored or frustrated moment that I > > found > > > > > > would lead > > > > > > > > > to a binge. The more that I binged, the more > > frustrated > > > > > with > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > > > and isolated I became. Finally, on a whim, I went to > > the > > > > > store, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > bought some art supplies. I have no artistic ability > > > > > > whatsoever. I > > > > > > > > > came home and started to just create random things. It > > was > > > > so > > > > > > > > > satisfying that I was able to break the cycle of > > binging. > > > > It > > > > > > feels > > > > > > > > > good to know that I have any easy (pick up at any > > moment) > > > > > > activity to > > > > > > > > > do whenever I feel bored and frustrated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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