Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Hi Jimmy, You sure have a full plate at the moment...You've started at a good place on finding out about neck surgery,,,,I really hope that it can work out and you get lots of possitive feedback on the surgery and can go forward and have it done....because you can regain use in your hand...Think possitive Lana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Hi Jimmy, You sure have a full plate at the moment...You've started at a good place on finding out about neck surgery,,,,I really hope that it can work out and you get lots of possitive feedback on the surgery and can go forward and have it done....because you can regain use in your hand...Think possitive Lana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2000 Report Share Posted April 7, 2000 Jimmy, Anne has had 2 neck surgeries. I do know that the instrumentation has significantly improved to monitor the nerve activity while the surgery is going on. Anne had a terrific team of surgeons in SanDiego, CA who are head and neck renowned. they have done well over 300 surgeries in the last three years. Kaiser Permanente pays them phenomenally because of their reputation and expertise. They are very personable and qualified. Perhaps you'd like to consult with them. Let me know. Good luck. Big decisions I know. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 Guys, When I asked my doctor about the Gamma Knife becoming cancerous he told me that there was a very small chance. But this doesn't give me a clear perspective of the exact chances. talks about his doctor not recommending the Gamma Knife on non cancerous tumors because the belts of radium can cause them to become cancerous. That was a concern of mine during my appointment last Monday. Vicki, you said that Anne had two neck surgeries in San Diego. Do they also specialize in the Gamma Knife? I am weighing my options as to whether choose another surgery or have the Gamma Knife. Would you please get me their number so I can contact them directly? Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 Vicki Well,right now,he has afew test to run before he decides if he can operate on the neck tumor.Rest assurred,no matter what he decides,I'll get a second opinion.So I tucked your email away for now,thankyou. Out of curiosity,could you tell me how Anne's surgeries turned out?The only other neck tumor situation I heard of was my sister.She had one,and the Dr said " no way could he remove it,he would have to cut too many nerves. " Jimmy Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > Jimmy, > Anne has had 2 neck surgeries. I do know that the instrumentation has > significantly improved to monitor the nerve activity while the surgery is > going on. Anne had a terrific team of surgeons in SanDiego, CA who are head > and neck renowned. they have done well over 300 surgeries in the last three > years. Kaiser Permanente pays them phenomenally because of their reputation > and expertise. They are very personable and qualified. Perhaps you'd like > to consult with them. Let me know. Good luck. Big decisions I know. Vicki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 Jimmy, Anne's first major NF surgery was on her neck at UCLA. She was 14 and we were petrified. It was protruding about 4 inches on the front right side of her neck. The prognosis was probably a trach, inability to speak, several days in intensive care and then recoup. This was 12 years ago. Thankfully progress has been made in the ENT world. Anne was a miracle to her famous surgeon Dr. Calcaterra. She talked within 4 hours after coming up from surgery (no ICU) just a whisper but it shocked him. He just turned to us and said " it's a miracle " . Her chords on the right were paralized. She has her speech back to a gruff sound and she can not sing and her breathing is a little labored (this could also be due to a lung tumor). In 1198 she had another neck surgery and they removed 6 tumors from her neck area. It was a relatively easy surgery in terms of what they took. they had to leave the clavicle tumor and there are others up behind the ear which they would like to do at another time and do not expect problems. If you need actual descriptions of the tumors and placement, I can check her files. One of the 6 tumors was protruding very badly like about 3-4 inches again. The hardest part for her was the staples. But you can not even see the scar which was from center up to her ear. Does this help? Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 Jimmy, Anne's first major NF surgery was on her neck at UCLA. She was 14 and we were petrified. It was protruding about 4 inches on the front right side of her neck. The prognosis was probably a trach, inability to speak, several days in intensive care and then recoup. This was 12 years ago. Thankfully progress has been made in the ENT world. Anne was a miracle to her famous surgeon Dr. Calcaterra. She talked within 4 hours after coming up from surgery (no ICU) just a whisper but it shocked him. He just turned to us and said " it's a miracle " . Her chords on the right were paralized. She has her speech back to a gruff sound and she can not sing and her breathing is a little labored (this could also be due to a lung tumor). In 1198 she had another neck surgery and they removed 6 tumors from her neck area. It was a relatively easy surgery in terms of what they took. they had to leave the clavicle tumor and there are others up behind the ear which they would like to do at another time and do not expect problems. If you need actual descriptions of the tumors and placement, I can check her files. One of the 6 tumors was protruding very badly like about 3-4 inches again. The hardest part for her was the staples. But you can not even see the scar which was from center up to her ear. Does this help? Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 Sally and anyone else interested: Anne's ENT surgeon specializing in Head/Neck is: Dr. o A Cueva, M.D.,F.A.C.S. Head and Neck Surgery PHONE 619/528-2597 Otiology/Neurotology Skull Base Surger4647 Zion Ave. San Diego, CA 92120 He worked on a team with Dr. Bill Mastrodimos, Neurosurgeon. The whole team of nurses, anesthetists, everyone involved with these guys is great! It is Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in San Diego. Gopod Luck, Sally. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 Jimmy!!!! many of us have had C spine and neck surgery! I've had 3! you arerightthough, it is very serious,, and you needa top surgeon. where is this tumor? Jimmy wrote: > Vicki > Well,right now,he has afew test to run before he decides if he can operate > on the neck tumor.Rest assurred,no matter what he decides,I'll get a second > opinion.So I tucked your email away for now,thankyou. > Out of curiosity,could you tell me how Anne's surgeries turned out?The only > other neck tumor situation I heard of was my sister.She had > one,and the Dr said " no way could he remove it,he would have to cut too many > nerves. " > Jimmy > Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > > > Jimmy, > > Anne has had 2 neck surgeries. I do know that the instrumentation has > > significantly improved to monitor the nerve activity while the surgery is > > going on. Anne had a terrific team of surgeons in SanDiego, CA who are > head > > and neck renowned. they have done well over 300 surgeries in the last > three > > years. Kaiser Permanente pays them phenomenally because of their > reputation > > and expertise. They are very personable and qualified. Perhaps you'd > like > > to consult with them. Let me know. Good luck. Big decisions I know. > Vicki > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2000 Report Share Posted April 8, 2000 Jimmy!!!! many of us have had C spine and neck surgery! I've had 3! you arerightthough, it is very serious,, and you needa top surgeon. where is this tumor? Jimmy wrote: > Vicki > Well,right now,he has afew test to run before he decides if he can operate > on the neck tumor.Rest assurred,no matter what he decides,I'll get a second > opinion.So I tucked your email away for now,thankyou. > Out of curiosity,could you tell me how Anne's surgeries turned out?The only > other neck tumor situation I heard of was my sister.She had > one,and the Dr said " no way could he remove it,he would have to cut too many > nerves. " > Jimmy > Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > > > Jimmy, > > Anne has had 2 neck surgeries. I do know that the instrumentation has > > significantly improved to monitor the nerve activity while the surgery is > > going on. Anne had a terrific team of surgeons in SanDiego, CA who are > head > > and neck renowned. they have done well over 300 surgeries in the last > three > > years. Kaiser Permanente pays them phenomenally because of their > reputation > > and expertise. They are very personable and qualified. Perhaps you'd > like > > to consult with them. Let me know. Good luck. Big decisions I know. > Vicki > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Jimmy, Mail your MRI's to another doctor like Epstein and get a second opinion. Mikey A At 02:52 PM 4/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: >ALOHA Kemosabies > >I finally saw my Dr about my spinal scan and the leg pain.Well,lets >see,along story short cuz I had to get up at 6am.He said I have " numorous >small tumors on thelumbar area " L1,L2,L3,L4,L5 " I said " whoa whoa Dr.you sunk >my battleship:)(he didn't laugh:(So anyhow,he said he could remove them " if >I want " " it will take two,maybe 3 surgeries " Worse case senerio " lots of leg >numbness,but no more pain " Well hey,if he numbs the leg,how do I know the >pain is really gone?Maybe it will still be there,I just can't >tell. " NO,No,No: " > Then we talked about the 14 yr old tumor.He said he could take that out no >problem.I said " but Dr I've grown attached to it (rim shot) > Here is the big thing.He thinks if I have a tumor in my neck removed,I'll >regain alot of mobility in my left hand(which is an atrophied lump)I'm >pretty excited about that(my hands been like this 9 years).Still,He wants >test done to see if the neck tumor will come out ok,or to see if it's >attached to ALOT of important nerves. >me personally,I'm skeptical about the whole day.Hard to believe he only >thinks good things will happen from all this. Well,it's my decision,I could >let it be.Who can tell me about neck tumor surgeries? >Jimmy > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Thata the plan mikey.Does he have an e mail address also? Jimmy Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > Jimmy, > Mail your MRI's to another doctor like Epstein and get a second opinion. > Mikey A > > > At 02:52 PM 4/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >ALOHA Kemosabies > > > >I finally saw my Dr about my spinal scan and the leg pain.Well,lets > >see,along story short cuz I had to get up at 6am.He said I have " numorous > >small tumors on thelumbar area " L1,L2,L3,L4,L5 " I said " whoa whoa Dr.you sunk > >my battleship:)(he didn't laugh:(So anyhow,he said he could remove them " if > >I want " " it will take two,maybe 3 surgeries " Worse case senerio " lots of leg > >numbness,but no more pain " Well hey,if he numbs the leg,how do I know the > >pain is really gone?Maybe it will still be there,I just can't > >tell. " NO,No,No: " > > Then we talked about the 14 yr old tumor.He said he could take that out no > >problem.I said " but Dr I've grown attached to it (rim shot) > > Here is the big thing.He thinks if I have a tumor in my neck removed,I'll > >regain alot of mobility in my left hand(which is an atrophied lump)I'm > >pretty excited about that(my hands been like this 9 years).Still,He wants > >test done to see if the neck tumor will come out ok,or to see if it's > >attached to ALOT of important nerves. > >me personally,I'm skeptical about the whole day.Hard to believe he only > >thinks good things will happen from all this. Well,it's my decision,I could > >let it be.Who can tell me about neck tumor surgeries? > >Jimmy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Thanks Vicki,thats all my ? for now:).The Dr is not even worried about the neck tumor right now.I saw him about my leg pain,and the neck tumor was " a bonus " .Right now we are talking about the lumbar tumors,and yanking the lump(14 yr tumor)out at the same time.I'm not sure if he classes that as a spinal tumor,but I do,it is pretty far away from the spine(ubder my shoulder blade) and doesnt hurt at all,except when I rake the bump on a chair spindal. Jimmy Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > Jimmy, > Anne's first major NF surgery was on her neck at UCLA. She was 14 and we > were petrified. It was protruding about 4 inches on the front right side of > her neck. The prognosis was probably a trach, inability to speak, several > days in intensive care and then recoup. This was 12 years ago. Thankfully > progress has been made in the ENT world. Anne was a miracle to her famous > surgeon Dr. Calcaterra. She talked within 4 hours after coming up from > surgery (no ICU) just a whisper but it shocked him. He just turned to us and > said " it's a miracle " . Her chords on the right were paralized. She has her > speech back to a gruff sound and she can not sing and her breathing is a > little labored (this could also be due to a lung tumor). In 1198 she had > another neck surgery and they removed 6 tumors from her neck area. It was a > relatively easy surgery in terms of what they took. they had to leave the > clavicle tumor and there are others up behind the ear which they would like > to do at another time and do not expect problems. If you need actual > descriptions of the tumors and placement, I can check her files. One of the > 6 tumors was protruding very badly like about 3-4 inches again. The hardest > part for her was the staples. But you can not even see the scar which was > from center up to her ear. Does this help? Vicki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Thanks Vicki,thats all my ? for now:).The Dr is not even worried about the neck tumor right now.I saw him about my leg pain,and the neck tumor was " a bonus " .Right now we are talking about the lumbar tumors,and yanking the lump(14 yr tumor)out at the same time.I'm not sure if he classes that as a spinal tumor,but I do,it is pretty far away from the spine(ubder my shoulder blade) and doesnt hurt at all,except when I rake the bump on a chair spindal. Jimmy Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > Jimmy, > Anne's first major NF surgery was on her neck at UCLA. She was 14 and we > were petrified. It was protruding about 4 inches on the front right side of > her neck. The prognosis was probably a trach, inability to speak, several > days in intensive care and then recoup. This was 12 years ago. Thankfully > progress has been made in the ENT world. Anne was a miracle to her famous > surgeon Dr. Calcaterra. She talked within 4 hours after coming up from > surgery (no ICU) just a whisper but it shocked him. He just turned to us and > said " it's a miracle " . Her chords on the right were paralized. She has her > speech back to a gruff sound and she can not sing and her breathing is a > little labored (this could also be due to a lung tumor). In 1198 she had > another neck surgery and they removed 6 tumors from her neck area. It was a > relatively easy surgery in terms of what they took. they had to leave the > clavicle tumor and there are others up behind the ear which they would like > to do at another time and do not expect problems. If you need actual > descriptions of the tumors and placement, I can check her files. One of the > 6 tumors was protruding very badly like about 3-4 inches again. The hardest > part for her was the staples. But you can not even see the scar which was > from center up to her ear. Does this help? Vicki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 I have no idea where it is in the neck.He just talked about it briefly. Jimmy Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > > > > > Jimmy, > > > Anne has had 2 neck surgeries. I do know that the instrumentation has > > > significantly improved to monitor the nerve activity while the surgery is > > > going on. Anne had a terrific team of surgeons in SanDiego, CA who are > > head > > > and neck renowned. they have done well over 300 surgeries in the last > > three > > > years. Kaiser Permanente pays them phenomenally because of their > > reputation > > > and expertise. They are very personable and qualified. Perhaps you'd > > like > > > to consult with them. Let me know. Good luck. Big decisions I know. > > Vicki > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2000 Report Share Posted April 9, 2000 Jimmy, The lumbar tumor removal went well on Anne. She was up riding a horse after 2 weeks. But she was in her teens and there were no complications. I hope this for you. Keep us posted. These are awful decisions. Just the idea of surgery scares me. I am a great nurse, but a very bad patient. All of you are so much better!!!!to say the least. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 Hello Sally, explained this reasoning a while back on a post. There may have been cases of beign tumors being malignant after Gamma Knife and since GK is used around the world, the statistics of tumors turning malignant is probably just .01% or something. , please correct me if I'm wrong =P Thanks, Mark ----Original Message Follows---- From: GospelBlessings@... When I asked my doctor about the Gamma Knife becoming cancerous he told me that there was a very small chance. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 In a message dated 4/7/00 2:53:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HandsomeJimmy@... writes: << I finally saw my Dr about my spinal scan and the leg pain.Well,lets see,along story short cuz I had to get up at 6am.He said I have " numorous small tumors on thelumbar area " L1,L2,L3,L4,L5 " I said " whoa whoa Dr.you sunk my battleship:)(he didn't laugh:(So anyhow,he said he could remove them " if I want " " it will take two,maybe 3 surgeries " Worse case senerio " lots of leg numbness,but no more pain " Well hey,if he numbs the leg,how do I know the pain is really gone?Maybe it will still be there,I just can't tell. " NO,No,No: " Then we talked about the 14 yr old tumor.He said he could take that out no problem.I said " but Dr I've grown attached to it (rim shot) Here is the big thing.He thinks if I have a tumor in my neck removed,I'll regain alot of mobility in my left hand(which is an atrophied lump)I'm pretty excited about that(my hands been like this 9 years).Still,He wants test done to see if the neck tumor will come out ok,or to see if it's attached to ALOT of important nerves. me personally,I'm skeptical about the whole day.Hard to believe he only thinks good things will happen from all this. Well,it's my decision,I could let it be.Who can tell me about neck tumor surgeries? Jimmy >> ---------------------- hi Jimmy, I have a similar tumor in my neck/shoulder tht has really wiped out my left arm and hand. My neuro won't touch it s its involved with other nerves and the nerve its on is imperative for using the arm and hand. Petito had EXACTLY the same tumor removed (same neuro as I have) and now he cant use the arm/hand at all. so I'm putting up with the occasional pain and limited use as it beats nothing. Don't mean to give ya a negative view. If your doc is confident, great. I wish you the best. But make sure he is very sure about taking it. Good luck bud. -Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 and Marie, Are you going to write up a document on what your research has found and do a summery?????? . Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > Hello Sally, > > explained this reasoning a while back on a post. There may have been > cases of beign tumors being malignant after Gamma Knife and since GK is used > around the world, the statistics of tumors turning malignant is probably > just .01% or something. > > , please correct me if I'm wrong =P > > Thanks, > > Mark > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: GospelBlessings@... > > > When I asked my doctor about the Gamma Knife becoming cancerous he told me > that there was a very small chance. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 and Marie, Are you going to write up a document on what your research has found and do a summery?????? . Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > Hello Sally, > > explained this reasoning a while back on a post. There may have been > cases of beign tumors being malignant after Gamma Knife and since GK is used > around the world, the statistics of tumors turning malignant is probably > just .01% or something. > > , please correct me if I'm wrong =P > > Thanks, > > Mark > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: GospelBlessings@... > > > When I asked my doctor about the Gamma Knife becoming cancerous he told me > that there was a very small chance. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 and Mark, I think that MS Drs are good and not so good.... but there is one thing that GK -FSR has over MS and that is I have never heard of a GK or FSR patient contracting " Golden Staf " or bed sores or any of those other type of hospital related problems. Have you. So I wonder how many people who have had MS have had hospital related post OP problems that has caused extra distress of the patient. Makes RadioSurgery/Therapy a little more safe do you think? In answer to the Sally if you want to go the percentage way. ... Malignancy from GK or FSR is about 98% that is what has been quoted to me by a NS who believes he is GOD of NS. .. Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > > Hello Sally, > > explained this reasoning a while back on a post. There may have been > cases of beign tumors being malignant after Gamma Knife and since GK is used > around the world, the statistics of tumors turning malignant is probably > just .01% or something. > > , please correct me if I'm wrong =P > > Thanks, > > Mark > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: GospelBlessings@... > > > When I asked my doctor about the Gamma Knife becoming cancerous he told me > that there was a very small chance. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 and Mark, I think that MS Drs are good and not so good.... but there is one thing that GK -FSR has over MS and that is I have never heard of a GK or FSR patient contracting " Golden Staf " or bed sores or any of those other type of hospital related problems. Have you. So I wonder how many people who have had MS have had hospital related post OP problems that has caused extra distress of the patient. Makes RadioSurgery/Therapy a little more safe do you think? In answer to the Sally if you want to go the percentage way. ... Malignancy from GK or FSR is about 98% that is what has been quoted to me by a NS who believes he is GOD of NS. .. Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > > Hello Sally, > > explained this reasoning a while back on a post. There may have been > cases of beign tumors being malignant after Gamma Knife and since GK is used > around the world, the statistics of tumors turning malignant is probably > just .01% or something. > > , please correct me if I'm wrong =P > > Thanks, > > Mark > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: GospelBlessings@... > > > When I asked my doctor about the Gamma Knife becoming cancerous he told me > that there was a very small chance. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Malignancy from GK or FSR is about 98% that is what has been quoted to me by a NS who believes he is GOD of NS.<-------Shouldn't I be dead by now if 98% results in Malignancy from GK and FSR? Also shouldn't the FDA(Food and Drug Administration) or whoever if ban the use of GK and FSR if the maglignancy rate was that high? Makes you think dosn't it? Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 If nobody knows whether GK causes malignancy, why risk it? Brackmann has mentioned situations where this happened but, it's very unpredictable. I don't see the point in trying this if it even has the slightest risk percentage. - Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > >Hello Sally, > > explained this reasoning a while back on a post. There may have been >cases of beign tumors being malignant after Gamma Knife and since GK is used >around the world, the statistics of tumors turning malignant is probably >just .01% or something. > >, please correct me if I'm wrong =P > >Thanks, > >Mark > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: GospelBlessings@... > > >When I asked my doctor about the Gamma Knife becoming cancerous he told me >that there was a very small chance. >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Ha Ha Mark I sure messed up there I was trying to point out that the chance of malignancy was two percent, because no doctor of any sort will give 100% guarantee of success and usually say that a they have a success rate of 98%.. Sorry about that. As you know I lean toward FSR for small VS tumours where hearing is trying to be preserved. . Re: Jimmy goes to Dr!!!! > Malignancy from GK or FSR is about 98% that is what has been quoted to me by > a NS who believes he is GOD of NS.<-------Shouldn't I be dead by now if 98% > results in Malignancy from GK and FSR? Also shouldn't the FDA(Food and Drug > Administration) or whoever if ban the use of GK and FSR if the maglignancy > rate was that high? Makes you think dosn't it? > > Mark > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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