abbreviations

[Guest guest]

Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab

section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little

doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also

a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on

its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there

are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care

providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise

have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed

to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret

mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in

hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may

use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all

medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that

even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a

residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they

assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that

THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely

selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

Valeria

At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

>Thank you!

>

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

>46/Texas/nulligravida

>Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

>Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

>Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

>~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Re: Abbreviations

>

>

>Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the

>laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K for

>potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly used

>abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do use. It

>may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the commonly

>used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of it.

>Margaret

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were

listening, Margaret

>>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>>

Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab

section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little

doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also

a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on

its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there

are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care

providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise

have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed

to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret

mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in

hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may

use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all

medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that

even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a

residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they

assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that

THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely

selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

Valeria

At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

>Thank you!

>

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

>46/Texas/nulligravida

>Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

>Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

>Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

>~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Re: Abbreviations

>

>

>Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the

>laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K for

>potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly used

>abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do use. It

>may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the commonly

>used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of it.

>Margaret

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I think that is what I was thinking about procedures. Cardiac Cath would

make the RCA mean something that I would think that would be acceptable.

But...

What Jan says is true:WSTPMTR. Having never done a cardiac

catheterization before for this company or anyone else, I guess I will

find out soon.

Thanks

Aliceanne

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:15:50 -0400 Valeria Truitt

writes:

> Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the

> lab

> section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is

> little

> doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

>

> What I caution students to remember is that every medical document

> is also

> a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

> subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to

> stand on

> its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that

> there

> are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that

> subsequent care

> providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would

> otherwise

> have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is

> subpoenaed

> to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as

> Margaret

> mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates

> in

> hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties

> may

> use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from

> all

> medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

>

> One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is

> that

> even though they went to medical school and through an internship

> and a

> residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they

> know, they

> assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot

> that

> THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting

> nicely

> selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

>

> Valeria

>

> At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

> >Thank you!

> >

> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

> >46/Texas/nulligravida

> >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

> >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

> >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

> >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Re: Abbreviations

> >

> >

> >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the

> >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K

> for

> >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly

> used

> >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do

> use. It

> >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the

> commonly

> >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of

> it.

> >Margaret

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

I think that is what I was thinking about procedures. Cardiac Cath would

make the RCA mean something that I would think that would be acceptable.

But...

What Jan says is true:WSTPMTR. Having never done a cardiac

catheterization before for this company or anyone else, I guess I will

find out soon.

Thanks

Aliceanne

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:15:50 -0400 Valeria Truitt

writes:

> Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the

> lab

> section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is

> little

> doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

>

> What I caution students to remember is that every medical document

> is also

> a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

> subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to

> stand on

> its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that

> there

> are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that

> subsequent care

> providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would

> otherwise

> have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is

> subpoenaed

> to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as

> Margaret

> mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates

> in

> hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties

> may

> use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from

> all

> medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

>

> One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is

> that

> even though they went to medical school and through an internship

> and a

> residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they

> know, they

> assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot

> that

> THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting

> nicely

> selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

>

> Valeria

>

> At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

> >Thank you!

> >

> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

> >46/Texas/nulligravida

> >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

> >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

> >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

> >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Re: Abbreviations

> >

> >

> >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the

> >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K

> for

> >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly

> used

> >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do

> use. It

> >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the

> commonly

> >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of

> it.

> >Margaret

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >nmtc-unsubscribe

> >

> >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I think that is what I was thinking about procedures. Cardiac Cath would

make the RCA mean something that I would think that would be acceptable.

But...

What Jan says is true:WSTPMTR. Having never done a cardiac

catheterization before for this company or anyone else, I guess I will

find out soon.

Thanks

Aliceanne

On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:15:50 -0400 Valeria Truitt

writes:

> Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the

> lab

> section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is

> little

> doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

>

> What I caution students to remember is that every medical document

> is also

> a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

> subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to

> stand on

> its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that

> there

> are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that

> subsequent care

> providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would

> otherwise

> have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is

> subpoenaed

> to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as

> Margaret

> mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates

> in

> hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties

> may

> use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from

> all

> medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

>

> One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is

> that

> even though they went to medical school and through an internship

> and a

> residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they

> know, they

> assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot

> that

> THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting

> nicely

> selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

>

> Valeria

>

> At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

> >Thank you!

> >

> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

> >46/Texas/nulligravida

> >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

> >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

> >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

> >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > Re: Abbreviations

> >

> >

> >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the

> >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K

> for

> >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly

> used

> >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do

> use. It

> >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the

> commonly

> >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of

> it.

> >Margaret

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >nmtc-unsubscribe

> >

> >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

>And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section?

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

>46/Texas/nulligravida

>Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

>Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

>Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

>~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

>Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the

>lab

>portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they

>PT

>they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The

>exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as

>hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

>And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section?

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

>46/Texas/nulligravida

>Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

>Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

>Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

>~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

>Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the

>lab

>portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they

>PT

>they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The

>exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as

>hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me

>

>

>TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to

>nmtc-unsubscribe

>

>PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

>And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section?

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

>46/Texas/nulligravida

>Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

>Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

>Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

>~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

>Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the

>lab

>portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they

>PT

>they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The

>exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as

>hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me

>

>

>TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to

>nmtc-unsubscribe

>

>PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc

>

>

[Guest guest]

ACK, did I say sedation rate? Ummmmmmmm................

<blushing>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Rennie, Sorry, I do not change sed to sedation rate but I might change it to

sedimentation rate.

[Guest guest]

ACK, did I say sedation rate? Ummmmmmmm................

<blushing>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Rennie, Sorry, I do not change sed to sedation rate but I might change it to

sedimentation rate.

[Guest guest]

ACK, did I say sedation rate? Ummmmmmmm................

<blushing>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Rennie, Sorry, I do not change sed to sedation rate but I might change it to

sedimentation rate.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were

listening, Margaret

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were

listening, Margaret

[Guest guest]

Yes, I was!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were

listening, Margaret

[Guest guest]

<blush blush blush blush blush>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

[Guest guest]

<blush blush blush blush blush>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

[Guest guest]

<blush blush blush blush blush>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

[Guest guest]

Oh, SHUSH, Robyn!!!

hehe

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Valeria,

This is priceless! LMAO!!!

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

[Guest guest]

Oh, SHUSH, Robyn!!!

hehe

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Valeria,

This is priceless! LMAO!!!

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

[Guest guest]

Oh, SHUSH, Robyn!!!

hehe

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

46/Texas/nulligravida

Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----

Valeria,

This is priceless! LMAO!!!

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

[Guest guest]

We are Margaret

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

Re: Abbreviations

Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were

listening, Margaret

>>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>>

Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab

section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little

doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also

a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on

its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there

are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care

providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise

have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed

to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret

mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in

hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may

use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all

medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that

even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a

residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they

assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that

THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely

selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

Valeria

[Guest guest]

We are Margaret

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

Re: Abbreviations

Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were

listening, Margaret

>>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>>

Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab

section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little

doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also

a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on

its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there

are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care

providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise

have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed

to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret

mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in

hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may

use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all

medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that

even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a

residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they

assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that

THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely

selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

Valeria

[Guest guest]

We are Margaret

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

Re: Abbreviations

Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were

listening, Margaret

>>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>>

Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab

section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little

doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context.

What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also

a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be

subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on

its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there

are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care

providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise

have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed

to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret

mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in

hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may

use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all

medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have.

One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that

even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a

residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they

assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that

THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely

selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know!

Valeria

[Guest guest]

Valeria,

This is priceless! LMAO!!!

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

Re: Abbreviations

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

>And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section?

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>Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the

>lab

>portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they

>PT

>they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The

>exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as

>hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me

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[Guest guest]

Valeria,

This is priceless! LMAO!!!

Robyn

43-Student-New Mexico

Re: Abbreviations

Rennie,

Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone

out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor.

Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We

could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student

is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work

and look like you're taking notes!

Valeria

At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote:

>And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section?

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Rennie - Student Member of AAMT

>46/Texas/nulligravida

>Career Step Student www.careerstep.com

>Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word

>Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription

>~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>----- Original Message -----

>

>

>

>Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the

>lab

>portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they

>PT

>they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The

>exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as

>hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me

>

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