Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! Valeria At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: >Thank you! > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT >46/Texas/nulligravida >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Re: Abbreviations > > >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K for >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly used >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do use. It >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the commonly >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of it. >Margaret > > > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were listening, Margaret >>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>> Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! Valeria At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: >Thank you! > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT >46/Texas/nulligravida >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Re: Abbreviations > > >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K for >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly used >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do use. It >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the commonly >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of it. >Margaret > > > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 I think that is what I was thinking about procedures. Cardiac Cath would make the RCA mean something that I would think that would be acceptable. But... What Jan says is true:WSTPMTR. Having never done a cardiac catheterization before for this company or anyone else, I guess I will find out soon. Thanks Aliceanne On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:15:50 -0400 Valeria Truitt writes: > Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the > lab > section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is > little > doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. > > What I caution students to remember is that every medical document > is also > a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be > subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to > stand on > its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that > there > are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that > subsequent care > providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would > otherwise > have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is > subpoenaed > to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as > Margaret > mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates > in > hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties > may > use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from > all > medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. > > One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is > that > even though they went to medical school and through an internship > and a > residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they > know, they > assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot > that > THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting > nicely > selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! > > Valeria > > At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: > >Thank you! > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT > >46/Texas/nulligravida > >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com > >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word > >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription > >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Re: Abbreviations > > > > > >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the > >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K > for > >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly > used > >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do > use. It > >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the > commonly > >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of > it. > >Margaret > > > > > > > > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to > >nmtc-unsubscribe > > > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 I think that is what I was thinking about procedures. Cardiac Cath would make the RCA mean something that I would think that would be acceptable. But... What Jan says is true:WSTPMTR. Having never done a cardiac catheterization before for this company or anyone else, I guess I will find out soon. Thanks Aliceanne On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:15:50 -0400 Valeria Truitt writes: > Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the > lab > section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is > little > doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. > > What I caution students to remember is that every medical document > is also > a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be > subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to > stand on > its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that > there > are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that > subsequent care > providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would > otherwise > have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is > subpoenaed > to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as > Margaret > mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates > in > hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties > may > use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from > all > medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. > > One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is > that > even though they went to medical school and through an internship > and a > residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they > know, they > assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot > that > THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting > nicely > selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! > > Valeria > > At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: > >Thank you! > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT > >46/Texas/nulligravida > >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com > >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word > >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription > >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Re: Abbreviations > > > > > >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the > >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K > for > >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly > used > >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do > use. It > >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the > commonly > >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of > it. > >Margaret > > > > > > > > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to > >nmtc-unsubscribe > > > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 I think that is what I was thinking about procedures. Cardiac Cath would make the RCA mean something that I would think that would be acceptable. But... What Jan says is true:WSTPMTR. Having never done a cardiac catheterization before for this company or anyone else, I guess I will find out soon. Thanks Aliceanne On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:15:50 -0400 Valeria Truitt writes: > Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the > lab > section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is > little > doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. > > What I caution students to remember is that every medical document > is also > a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be > subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to > stand on > its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that > there > are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that > subsequent care > providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would > otherwise > have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is > subpoenaed > to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as > Margaret > mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates > in > hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties > may > use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from > all > medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. > > One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is > that > even though they went to medical school and through an internship > and a > residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they > know, they > assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot > that > THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting > nicely > selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! > > Valeria > > At 05:43 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: > >Thank you! > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT > >46/Texas/nulligravida > >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com > >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word > >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription > >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Re: Abbreviations > > > > > >Sorry Rennie, you are correct. I use abbreviations throughout the > >laboratory section. However, I don't use chemical names, such as K > for > >potassium, NA for sodium. Those are no-nos. But the commonly > used > >abbreviations, such as WBC, CBC, RBC, alk phos, bicarb, etc., I do > use. It > >may take awhile to get to knowing and understanding which are the > commonly > >used abbreviations and which aren't, but you will get the hang of > it. > >Margaret > > > > > > > > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to > >nmtc-unsubscribe > > > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: >And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT >46/Texas/nulligravida >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- > > > >Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the >lab >portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they >PT >they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The >exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as >hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: >And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT >46/Texas/nulligravida >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- > > > >Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the >lab >portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they >PT >they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The >exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as >hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: >And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT >46/Texas/nulligravida >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- > > > >Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the >lab >portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they >PT >they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The >exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as >hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 ACK, did I say sedation rate? Ummmmmmmm................ <blushing> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Rennie, Sorry, I do not change sed to sedation rate but I might change it to sedimentation rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 ACK, did I say sedation rate? Ummmmmmmm................ <blushing> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Rennie, Sorry, I do not change sed to sedation rate but I might change it to sedimentation rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 ACK, did I say sedation rate? Ummmmmmmm................ <blushing> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Rennie, Sorry, I do not change sed to sedation rate but I might change it to sedimentation rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Yes, I was! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were listening, Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Yes, I was! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were listening, Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Yes, I was! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were listening, Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 <blush blush blush blush blush> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 <blush blush blush blush blush> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 <blush blush blush blush blush> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Oh, SHUSH, Robyn!!! hehe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Valeria, This is priceless! LMAO!!! Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Oh, SHUSH, Robyn!!! hehe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Valeria, This is priceless! LMAO!!! Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Oh, SHUSH, Robyn!!! hehe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rennie - Student Member of AAMT 46/Texas/nulligravida Career Step Student www.careerstep.com Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription ~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- Valeria, This is priceless! LMAO!!! Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 We are Margaret Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Re: Abbreviations Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were listening, Margaret >>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>> Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! Valeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 We are Margaret Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Re: Abbreviations Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were listening, Margaret >>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>> Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! Valeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 We are Margaret Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Re: Abbreviations Well said Valeria, really cleared it up well. Hope lots of " newbies " were listening, Margaret >>> Valeria Truitt 06/26/01 06:15PM >>> Rennie, I think that the difference with using abbreviations in the lab section and for vital signs and other similar uses is that there is little doubt what those abbreviations stand for in that context. What I caution students to remember is that every medical document is also a legal document. Should one of the reports you have prepared be subpoenaed to court in a lawsuit, the document should be able to stand on its own before a jury. If a lawyer can demonstrate to a jury that there are several meanings of a particular abbreviation and that subsequent care providers MAY have relied on the wrong meaning, a suit that would otherwise have been won could be lost. Not to mention, if the document is subpoenaed to court and your ID is on it, you want to be proud of it! And as Margaret mentioned, 3rd-party payors may use the documents; family advocates in hospitals may use the documents; and physicians in other specialties may use the documents. They don't always know the abbreviations from all medical specialties nor have the reference materials that we have. One of the interesting quirks in the mindset of many physicians is that even though they went to medical school and through an internship and a residency, and perhaps years of experience, to learn what they know, they assume that EVERYBODY knows the abbreviations, lingo, jargon, argot that THEY know. Of course several publishing companies are profiting nicely selling reference books to those of us who DON'T know! Valeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Valeria, This is priceless! LMAO!!! Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Re: Abbreviations Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: >And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT >46/Texas/nulligravida >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- > > > >Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the >lab >portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they >PT >they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The >exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as >hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Valeria, This is priceless! LMAO!!! Robyn 43-Student-New Mexico Re: Abbreviations Rennie, Thanks for a new term! Sedation rate: The tendency of students to zone out or fall asleep when in the presence of a really boring instructor. Perhaps we should start rating instructors on their sedation rate? We could use an icon of a student with his/her head on the desk. One student is mildly uninteresting --> Five students is a real bore--bring other work and look like you're taking notes! Valeria At 06:03 PM 6/26/2001, Rennie wrote: >And.......do you change " sed " to sedation rate in the lab section? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Rennie - Student Member of AAMT >46/Texas/nulligravida >Career Step Student www.careerstep.com >Current Specialty: Studying Applied Medical Terminology (Word >Differentiation) and Beginning Transcription >~Find a job you love and you will never have to work again.~ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >----- Original Message ----- > > > >Yes, I forgot about that in my example... the abbreviations are OK in the >lab >portion of the report, but where I work, it's type what they say.. If they >PT >they get PT, and if they say prothrombin time, that's what they get. The >exceptions to that are slang, such as " crit " which is transcribed as >hematocrit. Another $0.02 from me > > >TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THIS MAILING LIST send a blank email to >nmtc-unsubscribe > >PLEASE VISIT THE NMTC WEB SITE - http://go.to/nmtc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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