Guest guest Posted April 27, 2000 Report Share Posted April 27, 2000 poly, I agree with your feelings on suing. When you say if you have a successful birth, you might think differently, I can understand that too, however, what about all this pain and suffering you have experienced? Who pays for that? C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2000 Report Share Posted April 27, 2000 , " I spoke to the Law firm they told me I did not have a case in regard to the retained placenta but if I were told that I could not have any more children that would definitely be a case. Has anyone gotten a percentage rate on the chances of getting pregnant with Ashermans? " This is what I have read: For mild to moderate adhesions, you might expect a 60-80% chance of successful pregnancy after repair. For more extensive adhesions, the chance of a successful pregnancy is lower. If a pregnancy does occur after repair of Ashermans syndrome, there is a greater chance of preterm labor and delivery (delivery of a premature baby), placenta accreta (where the placenta invades the uterine wall into the muscular component of the wall and becomes difficult to impossible to remove) and postpartum hemorrhage (heavy bleeding after the delivery of a baby). One other article I read said that success rates are above 85 percent when adhesions are minimal, however, if scar tissue has replaced most of the uterine cavity, there is little hope of restoring normal uterine function. I think the above speaks for itself and I believe that there must be some justice in this world to prove that we are going to have great problems getting pregnant and probably a lot more if we do get pregnant. I will definitely want to try to sue after I get the treatment I so much deserve first. Of course, if I do go on to have a successful birth, I will think differently, but until that time, I am going to gather up all the information I can find to help me win my battle. Poly Re:litigation Celest I also went to speak to a law firm after I spent a week in the hospital due to my doctors negligence of not removing all the placenta. My OBGYN office has four doctors that you alternate with. One of them delivered and then another sent me to ER when I went in so sick I could barely stand and then yet another performed the emergency DNC. The doctor who performed the DNC came to see the next day and told me that he filled an entire bucket of debris and that he thought maybe there was a hole in my uterus. Now my question now is how come they did not do an u/s to find out. His exact words were " I put the instrument in to pull out debris one time and it would stop but then the next time it would just keep going. " Anyway when I spoke to the Law firm they told me I did not have a case in regard to the retained placenta but if I were told that I could not have any more children that would definitely be a case. Has anyone gotten a percentage rate on the chances of getting pregnant with Ashermans? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ shapeani.gif ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2000 Report Share Posted May 29, 2000 Tanyia, Ask for your operative notes from your baby's delivery! They have to give those to you by law and it will tell you in detail what happened in the operating room. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2000 Report Share Posted May 29, 2000 Tanyia, I wrote to Medical Malpractice Law Email Forum and am just waiting for their reply as to whether I have a case. I don't know if the laws in Cyprus are the same as US but am gathering all that I can at the moment. I'll inform you when I get a reply. A high risk OB nurse replied to my email and I am passing on the email to you in the hope that it will help you. " Hello! I saw your post on the med malpractice list. I am a certified high risk OB nurse with 26 years experience and have been working with attorneys on malpractice cases for about 2 1/2 years. You might have a case since you have damages(no period, multiple D & C's, impaired fertility, etc.) Please email me back and let me know where you live, as I know attys all around the US who I can contact in your behalf. Gail Neuman RNC LNC Perinatal Nurse Associates 14591 Newport Avenue, Suite 102 Tustin, CA 92780 fax She couldn't help me coz I am from Cyprus, but I hope that she can help you. I'm sure she won't mind if you contact her. Let me know the outcome in any case. Love Poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2000 Report Share Posted May 29, 2000 Hi my name is I just joined this group. I was diagnosed about a year ago with Ashermens. I too also had retained placenta , it was left in for amonth which in turn ended up infecting and causing ashermans. They did laproscopy twice, injected dye, tried all different hormones, then on my second surgery to try and remove scar tisuue the doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant which resulted in me having a miscarriage. Because my uterus was so badly damaged they had to do an emergency hysterectomy(march3,2000). I have contacted a lawyer and I am in the process of trying to sue the doctor. The doctor that delivered my son was wearing sunglasses when he delivered my son beacuse he said he had an eye infection. In my opinion I think if he wasnt wearing sunglasses maybe placenta would not have been left. The glasses he was wearing were so dark I couldnt even see his eyes. When I went to go and get all my files I saw that he signed saying he removed all the placenta. That is not true and he never should have signed that piece of paper. Anyways i am finding it so hard to sue him, nobody wants to help me all the doctors stick together. I think I may have found a doctor in another city who is going to be on my side. He agrees that this doctor messed up. When this doctor that delivered my son did my D & C I was told that he removed most of my lining and that there was also a hole in my uterus. When he performed my D & C he was leaving for China the next day and he was in a big rush to leave, so he basically did it in a hurry. My son will be three in August, so I have been dealing with this for three years. I am getting tired and frustrated I dont know if I can take much more of this. I know I have to sue only for the purpose that what if he does this to somebody else. It is not right. He was negligent and I think he should be made aware of that fact. He took all my hopes and dreams of having more children away from me. Now that I have had to have a hysterectomy its finished, before there was always hope that maybe the problem could be fixed but not anymore. Anyways I just want to say good luck to everbody and if anyone has any advice or comforting words please write. Love Ouimet Retro@... Tanyia Pino wrote: > , > Hi. I was very interested to hear that you went to a lawyers office > after > hearing your story. I went into preterm labor at 26 weeks, they were > able > to stop the labor with medication and from then on I was on mandatory > bedrest in the hospital (where I almost delivered a 2nd time). I had > vaginal and regular ultrasounds everyday from then on and at about 33 > weeks > the specialist brought in specifically for me noticed I had two > placentas. > When I asked how that happens he replied, " Don't worry many animals > have > that too!!!! " I delivered naturally at 34 1/2 weeks with a very > painful > extraction of the placenta. I remember seeing the doctors face as she > was > removing the placenta and she had a very worried look on her and she > said > something like " shit " and then the drugs she gave me knocked me out. > About > one week after the delivery I was still bleeding which I thought was > normal > until a golf ball size clot came out. I was still boarding in the > hospital, > my son was in the NICU, so I showed the nurse. She did not think it > was a > problem. One week later after I returned home I was having terrible > cramps > in my abdomin, called the doctor and they rushed me to the hospital > for an > emergency D & C. They put a balloon in to try to keep the uterus open > but > from that moment on all the doctors in the group seemed very nervous > around > me. They told me I may never be able to have another child. At the > time I > wasn't concerned I just wanted to concentrate on my baby. They even > sent a > hospital psychologist to speak with me several times. The doctor who > delivered the baby never visited again except once briefly. After > that > people tried to get me to see a lawyer but I had only my baby in > mind. I > have seen 3 specialists and they all think my chances are very slim to > > conceive again. I am in the midst of having my sister be a > surrogate. But > maybe I should see a lawyer. What does it entail? The doctors all > said > they tried they're best. I don't know what to do. Any suggestions > would be > appreciated. > > Tanyia > > > >From: Chrissnappy@... > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups > >To: Ashermansegroups > >Subject: Re:litigation > >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:05:11 EDT > > > >Celest > >I also went to speak to a law firm after I spent a week in the > hospital due > >to my doctors negligence of not removing all the placenta. My OBGYN > office > >has four doctors that you alternate with. One of them delivered and > then > >another sent me to ER when I went in so sick I could barely stand and > then > >yet another performed the emergency DNC. > >The doctor who performed the DNC came to see the next day and told me > that > >he > >filled an entire bucket of debris and that he thought maybe there was > a > >hole > >in my uterus. Now my question now is how come they did not do an u/s > to > >find > >out. His exact words were " I put the instrument in to pull out debris > one > >time and it would stop but then the next time it would just keep > going. " > >Anyway when I spoke to the Law firm they told me I did not have a > case in > >regard to the retained placenta but if I were told that I could not > have > >any > >more children that would definitely be a case. Has anyone gotten a > >percentage > >rate on the chances of getting pregnant with Ashermans? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Hi , I'm the 'other' . I'm so sorry to hear your story. I just wanted to welcome you to the group. I'm sure you'll find lots of useful information and support hear. Take care, (so, we don't get confused, I can go by N - my last name is Noell). > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups >To: <Ashermansegroups> >Subject: Re: Re:litigation >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned out >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever you >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of you. > >You wrote: > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant or >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just the >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they do >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another time? > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any sunglasses >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about " If " >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing >someone special in your life and you know that from your own experience. >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their >negligence. > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something which >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove >their negligence. > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old you >are .? > >Much love, > >Poly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Poly, Can I put your e-mail address on the web-site for people that might run into the site and want to join this list? > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups >To: <Ashermansegroups> >Subject: Re: Re:litigation >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned out >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever you >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of you. > >You wrote: > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant or >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just the >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they do >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another time? > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any sunglasses >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about " If " >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing >someone special in your life and you know that from your own experience. >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their >negligence. > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something which >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove >their negligence. > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old you >are .? > >Much love, > >Poly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Poly, One more thing - I'll put a note for them to put 'Ashermans List' in the Subject line, so you'll be able to distinguish when someone is sending a note from the webiste. okay? > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups >To: <Ashermansegroups> >Subject: Re: Re:litigation >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned out >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever you >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of you. > >You wrote: > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant or >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just the >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they do >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another time? > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any sunglasses >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about " If " >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing >someone special in your life and you know that from your own experience. >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their >negligence. > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something which >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove >their negligence. > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old you >are .? > >Much love, > >Poly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned out the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever you need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of you. You wrote: The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant which resulted in me having a miscarriage. I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant or did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just the laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they do the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another time? If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any sunglasses and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about " If " he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing someone special in your life and you know that from your own experience. But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their negligence. All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something which could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove their negligence. I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old you are .? Much love, Poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Jane, Did you tell us this story before? The reason I ask is because I am SHOCKED! I think I would have remembered this story!! The more stories I hear, the worst they get! Have you sought legal counsel or is it your word against theirs? I am very surprised that at least one nurse would not have spoken up. ( Probably afraid of losing her job) There are many doctors that would be as shocked as we are to hear this story and would probably respect a nurse even more for not wanting to work for such a negligent doctor. I am so sorry to hear your story. At least you have your son though. My heart aches for all of you who have lost your children. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Poly, Even better! How do they add themselves to the list? Thanks for your help! Also, Celeste, do you have either of the following, so I can add to the web site? - Medical Information about Ashermans - Links to Medical Sites Thanks, > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups >To: <Ashermansegroups> >Subject: Re: Re:litigation >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 21:17:03 +0300 > >N, >Yes of course you can, but I was wondering if it might be easier to give >instructions of how they can add themselves in case I was away at some >point or you could add both I guess. >Poly > Re: Re:litigation > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > > > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned >out > >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever >you > >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of >you. > > > >You wrote: > > > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get >pregnant > >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > > > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just > >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't > >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it > >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to > >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant >or > >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just >the > >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they >do > >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another >time? > > > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any >sunglasses > >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about > " If " > >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " > >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing > >someone special in your life and you know that from your own >experience. > >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I > >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their > >negligence. > > > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something >which > >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are > >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good > >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove > >their negligence. > > > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you > >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your > >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old >you > >are .? > > > >Much love, > > > >Poly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Dear and Tanyia and all, Tanyia it would be wonderful if you could get legal results. It's fair and right, so I really wish you luck. , my story is similar to yours in many ways. I did not have a hysterectomy, but I could only have my one son by birth since my Ashermans is severe. My experience was like yours in that the doctors and nurses REALLY stuck together. My son was DROPPED into my abdominal cavity immediately after he was born by emergency C-section. More docs rushed to my side, they cut me some more to get him out, I screamed because I could feel the cutting, they gave me more anesthesia, and my husband was right there and saw the whole thing. My pelvic region was swollen up like a black-and-blue basketball after (way under the incision), and every single resident and nurse that checked me afterwards in my room literally GASPED when they saw my wounds. There would be whispered discussions, then they'd come back to me and tell me I was fine. Anyway, of ALL these medical personell, not ONE noted A THING in writing. They looked my husband and I IN THE EYE and said it didn't happen. My husband spend an hour looking at my son's black hair when he was crowning vaginally and just didn't fit out. Then during the C-section, he said he'll never forget seeing his boy for a split second, long and pink with a cute little face, then loosing that vision when the idiots dropped him back inside me. The medical records say it never happened. I've always wanted a glimpse inside their brains to see how they rationalize their behavior. Guess it's the basic instinct to cover your butt at all costs. Tanyia, your victory will in a way be my victory. YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!! Jane Re:litigation > >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:05:11 EDT > > > >Celest > >I also went to speak to a law firm after I spent a week in the > hospital due > >to my doctors negligence of not removing all the placenta. My OBGYN > office > >has four doctors that you alternate with. One of them delivered and > then > >another sent me to ER when I went in so sick I could barely stand and > then > >yet another performed the emergency DNC. > >The doctor who performed the DNC came to see the next day and told me > that > >he > >filled an entire bucket of debris and that he thought maybe there was > a > >hole > >in my uterus. Now my question now is how come they did not do an u/s > to > >find > >out. His exact words were " I put the instrument in to pull out debris > one > >time and it would stop but then the next time it would just keep > going. " > >Anyway when I spoke to the Law firm they told me I did not have a > case in > >regard to the retained placenta but if I were told that I could not > have > >any > >more children that would definitely be a case. Has anyone gotten a > >percentage > >rate on the chances of getting pregnant with Ashermans? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 N, Yes of course you can, but I was wondering if it might be easier to give instructions of how they can add themselves in case I was away at some point or you could add both I guess. Poly Re: Re:litigation >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned out >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever you >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of you. > >You wrote: > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant or >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just the >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they do >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another time? > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any sunglasses >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about " If " >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing >someone special in your life and you know that from your own experience. >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their >negligence. > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something which >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove >their negligence. > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old you >are .? > >Much love, > >Poly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 N, I should have read all my emails but was in a hurry. Ok Ashermans List is ok. If they add themselves, I get an automatic email telling when someone has added themselves or even when they want to leave the list. Poly Re: Re:litigation >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned out >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever you >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of you. > >You wrote: > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant or >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just the >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they do >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another time? > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any sunglasses >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about " If " >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing >someone special in your life and you know that from your own experience. >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their >negligence. > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something which >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove >their negligence. > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old you >are .? > >Much love, > >Poly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 N Poly is the queen of information! She can give you all the link websites. As far as the definition for Ashermans Syndrome, here are two to choose from. 1. Poly found this one: Ashermans syndrome is the occlusion or obliteration of the uterine cavity due to damage to the lining of the cavity (endometrium). When the endometrium is destroyed beyond a certain depth (believed to be the basalis level which is the level that promotes subsequent growth) in the context of hypoestrogenism (a low circulating estrogen concentration), then permanent scar tissue can easily form within the cavity. 2. Dr. Berger gave me this one: The occurrence of reduced or complete absence of menstruation associated with intrauterine adhesions that form as a result of an inflammatory response to injury or infection. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 N, I think the way to do it is as follows: Go to: /community/Ashermans Click on subscribe on the left. I think that is what they have to do but am not sure because when I do this I get my own information because I am already on the list. I suppose we could ask someone who added themselves to the list if this is the way. I know a new member has done that and I'll ask her privately. Poly Re: Re:litigation > > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > > > > > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned > >out > > >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever > >you > > >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of > >you. > > > > > >You wrote: > > > > > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get > >pregnant > > >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > > > > > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you just > > >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just don't > > >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it > > >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested to > > >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant > >or > > >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just > >the > > >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did they > >do > > >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another > >time? > > > > > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any > >sunglasses > > >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about > > " If " > > >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of " If's " > > >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with losing > > >someone special in your life and you know that from your own > >experience. > > >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and I > > >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for their > > >negligence. > > > > > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something > >which > > >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they are > > >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a good > > >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to prove > > >their negligence. > > > > > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of you > > >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed your > > >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old > >you > > >are .? > > > > > >Much love, > > > > > >Poly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Hi Poly this is Ouimet. In response to your questions that you asked, when I found out I was pregnant I was in shock, I was always told that i would never be able to get pregnant. They way the doctors found out that I was pregnant I was having pain for a while so my family doctor sent me for an ultrasound and that is when they found out I was pregnant. I was happy and also shocked at the same time. Two days after I found out I was pregnant I ended up having a miscarriage. They admitted me into the hospital that day and did they hysterectomy. The doctor told me that because my uterus was so badly damaged that was the only thing that could do. I was close to 3 months pregnant. The doctor said that there was no way that they baby could have grown full term. The doctor also said that because there was nothing left for him to scrape that's why they couldn't do a D & C. I had hysteroscopy and laproscopy done twice. I guess the second time they removed just enough scar tissue for me to pregnant. I am only 30 years old and I get so frustrated sometimes, I thank God everyday for my son and thank God that he is healthy. My husbands sister said that she would be a surrogate for us if that is what we wanted. I am still trying to get over my hysterectomy so maybe when I am little bit more emotionally stable I will sit down and discuss this with her. I just had my hysterectomy 2 months ago, so it is still fresh in my head. I never thought that it would end up having to come to me having a hysterectomy. I appreciate being able to talk to everybody, I talk to Mom and my husband and family but unless you have been through you don't really understand, and that is why it is so nice to be able to talk to other woman that have gone through what I have gone through. Thank you and take care. Love O Noell wrote: > Hi , > I'm the 'other' . I'm so sorry to hear your story. I just wanted > to > welcome you to the group. I'm sure you'll find lots of useful > information > and support hear. > Take care, > (so, we don't get confused, I can go by N - my last name is > Noell). > > > > > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups > >To: <Ashermansegroups> > >Subject: Re: Re:litigation > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > > > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned > out > >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever > you > >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of > you. > > > >You wrote: > > > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get > pregnant > >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > > > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you > just > >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just > don't > >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it > >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested > to > >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant > or > >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just > the > >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did > they do > >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another > time? > > > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any > sunglasses > >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about > " If " > >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of > " If's " > >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with > losing > >someone special in your life and you know that from your own > experience. > >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and > I > >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for > their > >negligence. > > > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something > which > >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they > are > >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a > good > >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to > prove > >their negligence. > > > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of > you > >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed > your > >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old > you > >are .? > > > >Much love, > > > >Poly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2000 Report Share Posted May 31, 2000 I was surprised as well (that not one nurse put a note in the records). Of course, I had to get the records from the hospital and the doctor -- they could have easily whited-out a phrase or even omitted pages. I poured through those records to find even the NAME of the nurses on duty, but they were no where to be found. I thought maybe I could contact them myself. What they did say, to explain the additional meds and stiching, was " the baby turned " . Right -- he turned in mid air!!!! It was a resident that dropped him. My doctor was one of the ones that came rushing afterwards. I had been in hard back labor for two whole days with a failed epidural. My husband was wiped too. It was going so poorly, we were in no shape to question it at the time. It was at Jefferson University (teaching) Hospital in Philadelphia. Since then, I've learned a lot about how these residents go for days without sleep. I'll never let my children or husband get near one unless the doctor promised IN WRITING that he'd be the one doing the surgery. Read those consent forms -- they say something like Dr. so-and-so or his assign. When I had my one surgery to attempt the Ashermans repair, I made the surgeon black out the part of the consent form that allowed other unknown people to cut me. , my son, had a wound on the top of his head from all the vacuunm and forceps action. I still have the huge scab in my dresser drawer. I had to cut it out of his hair when it finally healed. Worst of all, three months then six months came and went without him being able to lift his head and his head always lolled to one side. His neck was injured. We took him to Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia at 10 months and the doctors there said they were concerned that he still couldn't lift his head but we'd have to just wait and see. Shortly after that his neck began to improve, but it was really scary for almost a year. I tried three lawyers. They told me that if the baby had been permanently injured or died, I'd have had a better case. They said these suits tend to go to trial and cost a mint in expert fees -- they wanted me to pay those up front. (Yea, right. I was worried about that months mortgage since I had quit my job to care for my son. I'm gonna come up with thousands to pay an expert!!). They said the loss of " potential " children is not a concrete loss, and many jury members, annoyed at their own kids for one reason or another, wouldn't sympathize. There was also a big problem finding absolute medical evidence, even a single sentence, saying that a doctor's actions cause Ashermans. I remember feeling that even the researchers were covering the butts of their practicing colleagues. Considering the huge expense and the questionable payoff, the lawyers didn't want to put their time and money into it. I barely believe it myself, but life sure isn't fair. Worse things than this happen to people. I am lucky to have that little boy, very lucky and very blessed. Now, if we can just hear of a successful Ashermans law suit!!!! Jane Re: Re:litigation Jane, Did you tell us this story before? The reason I ask is because I am SHOCKED! I think I would have remembered this story!! The more stories I hear, the worst they get! Have you sought legal counsel or is it your word against theirs? I am very surprised that at least one nurse would not have spoken up. ( Probably afraid of losing her job) There are many doctors that would be as shocked as we are to hear this story and would probably respect a nurse even more for not wanting to work for such a negligent doctor. I am so sorry to hear your story. At least you have your son though. My heart aches for all of you who have lost your children. Celeste ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2000 Report Share Posted May 31, 2000 , I can barely imagine the pain of this after just hearing you were pregnant. And I'm so sorry you lost your second child. I just wish I could give you a hug. Take Care, Jane Re: Re:litigation > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > > > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things turned > out > >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you whenever > you > >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 of > you. > > > >You wrote: > > > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get > pregnant > >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > > > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, you > just > >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just > don't > >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is it > >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am interested > to > >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get pregnant > or > >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or just > the > >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? Did > they do > >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in another > time? > > > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any > sunglasses > >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean about > " If " > >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of > " If's " > >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with > losing > >someone special in your life and you know that from your own > experience. > >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams and > I > >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for > their > >negligence. > > > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is something > which > >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, they > are > >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a > good > >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to > prove > >their negligence. > > > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope of > you > >having your own biological child (unless of course if they removed > your > >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how old > you > >are .? > > > >Much love, > > > >Poly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2000 Report Share Posted May 31, 2000 I have found that a successful Ashermans lawsuit is almost impossible but maybe one of us will have some success. Celeste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2000 Report Share Posted May 31, 2000 Jane Thank you very much for replying to me I appreciate it very much. It is nice to know that there are people out there that care and sympathize with me. Thank you again. O The Spetsas' wrote: > > , I can barely imagine the pain of this after just hearing you > were pregnant. And I'm so sorry you lost your second child. I just > wish I could give you a hug. Take Care, Jane > Re: Re:litigation > > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:24:23 +0300 > > > > > >Hi and welcome to our support group. I am so sorry things > turned > > out > > >the way they did for you, but know that we are here for you > whenever > > you > > >need to vent. We now have 2 's, I hope we don't confuse the 2 > of > > you. > > > > > >You wrote: > > > > > >The doctor removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get > > pregnant > > >which resulted in me having a miscarriage. > > > > > >I am really surprised at this because from what I have learnt, > you > > just > > >can't remove a " little bit " and attempt to get pregnant. You just > > > don't > > >know how and in which direction the placenta will grow so how is > it > > >possible for the baby to grow to full term? Anyhow, I am > interested > > to > > >learn if it was your doctor who told you to go ahead and get > pregnant > > or > > >did it just happen? Also did you have hysteroscopical surgery or > just > > the > > >laparoscopy? How many weeks were you when you lost your baby.? > Did > > they do > > >the hysterectomy just after you gave birth or did you go in > another > > time? > > > > > >If it is any consolation to you , my doctor didn't wear any > > sunglasses > > >and she still caused me Ashermans, but I do know what you mean > about > > " If " > > >he wasn't wearing them. You know, since I lost my sons, a lot of > > " If's " > > >came into my life. It is one of the hardest things to cope with > > losing > > >someone special in your life and you know that from your own > > experience. > > >But in any case, both our doctors took away our hopes and dreams > and > > I > > >certainly believe that in our case, these doctors should pay for > > their > > >negligence. > > > > > >All doctors tend to " stick " together because I guess, it is > something > > which > > >could happen to any of them and if they go against one doctor, > they > > are > > >going against themselves. That is why I believe we need to find a > > > good > > >solicitor who can throw the right questions at the right time to > > prove > > >their negligence. > > > > > >I just wanted to finish by saying, there is still one more hope > of > > you > > >having your own biological child (unless of course if they > removed > > your > > >ovaries also). Have you thought of surrogacy? Can you tell us how > old > > you > > >are .? > > > > > >Much love, > > > > > >Poly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2000 Report Share Posted May 31, 2000 Jane Hi its O, I cant believe what happened to you, that is awful. I dont know who these doctors think they are. I am in the process now of trying to sue the doctor that messed me up, I hope I can at least get a little justice. These lawyers treat us like we are the bad guys. I too had to come up with money up front for my lawyer, I told him i didnt have it and finally he agreed that he wont take any money until there is a settlement (30%). But I sometimes feel like he just keeps putting me off, I am going to call him and tell him if he doesnt want this case then I will go some where else. I have a specialist from Toronto, Canada on my side who is willing to testify that this so called doctor messed me up. Since I was first diagnosed with Ashermans I have spent close to $3000.00, going to Toronto to see this specialist, I live in Ottawa, Canada. I was told that I had to go to another city to get a doctor to testify because the all stick together. I did go and I feel that I should be reimbursed for the amount of money it has cost me to go. When I would go down to Toronto my husband would take time off work to look after the baby and my mother would take time off work to come with me for support. When I had my hysterectomy my mother took one month off work and my husband took a month off. For two months I could not do nothing. I couldnt even pick my son up or get down on the floor and play with him. I felt so bad for him, he didnt understand what was happening to mommy. Anyways I get so angry and upset when I talk about this, it hurts so much.But I am going to try my hardest to get this lawsuit going and hopefully make this doctor pay for what he has done. I am not doing this for the money I am doing this for every other woman that has had to go through this and the many more that I am sure will come. Its sad to say but I am sure there will be more and I dont want anyone to have to go through what I went through, I dont even wish this on my worst enemy. Everbody Take Care and hopefully one of us can make these doctors pay. O The Spetsas' wrote: > I was surprised as well (that not one nurse put a note in the > records). Of course, I had to get the records from the hospital and > the doctor -- they could have easily whited-out a phrase or even > omitted pages. I poured through those records to find even the NAME of > the nurses on duty, but they were no where to be found. I thought > maybe I could contact them myself. > > What they did say, to explain the additional meds and stiching, was > " the baby turned " . Right -- he turned in mid air!!!! It was a > resident that dropped him. My doctor was one of the ones that came > rushing afterwards. I had been in hard back labor for two whole days > with a failed epidural. My husband was wiped too. It was going so > poorly, we were in no shape to question it at the time. > > It was at Jefferson University (teaching) Hospital in > Philadelphia. Since then, I've learned a lot about how these > residents go for days without sleep. I'll never let my children or > husband get near one unless the doctor promised IN WRITING that he'd > be the one doing the surgery. Read those consent forms -- they say > something like Dr. so-and-so or his assign. When I had my one surgery > to attempt the Ashermans repair, I made the surgeon black out the part > of the consent form that allowed other unknown people to cut me. > > , my son, had a wound on the top of his head from all the > vacuunm and forceps action. I still have the huge scab in my dresser > drawer. I had to cut it out of his hair when it finally healed. > Worst of all, three months then six months came and went without him > being able to lift his head and his head always lolled to one side. > His neck was injured. We took him to Childrens Hospital in > Philadelphia at 10 months and the doctors there said they were > concerned that he still couldn't lift his head but we'd have to just > wait and see. Shortly after that his neck began to improve, but it > was really scary for almost a year. > > I tried three lawyers. They told me that if the baby had been > permanently injured or died, I'd have had a better case. They said > these suits tend to go to trial and cost a mint in expert fees -- they > wanted me to pay those up front. (Yea, right. I was worried about > that months mortgage since I had quit my job to care for my son. I'm > gonna come up with thousands to pay an expert!!). They said the loss > of " potential " children is not a concrete loss, and many jury members, > annoyed at their own kids for one reason or another, wouldn't > sympathize. There was also a big problem finding absolute medical > evidence, even a single sentence, saying that a doctor's actions cause > Ashermans. I remember feeling that even the researchers were covering > the butts of their practicing colleagues. Considering the huge > expense and the questionable payoff, the lawyers didn't want to put > their time and money into it. > > I barely believe it myself, but life sure isn't fair. Worse things > than this happen to people. I am lucky to have that little boy, very > lucky and very blessed. > > Now, if we can just hear of a successful Ashermans law suit!!!! > Jane > Re: Re:litigation > > > Jane, > > Did you tell us this story before? The reason I ask is because I am > SHOCKED! > I think I would have remembered this story!! The more stories I > hear, the > worst they get! Have you sought legal counsel or is it your word > against > theirs? I am very surprised that at least one nurse would not have > spoken > up. ( Probably afraid of losing her job) There are many doctors > that would > be as shocked as we are to hear this story and would probably > respect a nurse > even more for not wanting to work for such a negligent doctor. I am > so sorry > to hear your story. > > At least you have your son though. My heart aches for all of you > who have > lost your children. > > Celeste > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 O, I have posted to this board : http://prairielaw.com/forums/forum.asp?channelId=4 & subId=9 & forumId=34 and told them my story. I am getting replies at the moment but haven't come to the conclusion as to whether I have a case or not, perhaps you can write to them too. I'll let everyone know of the outcome. Love Poly Re: Re:litigation > > > Jane, > > Did you tell us this story before? The reason I ask is because I am > SHOCKED! > I think I would have remembered this story!! The more stories I > hear, the > worst they get! Have you sought legal counsel or is it your word > against > theirs? I am very surprised that at least one nurse would not have > spoken > up. ( Probably afraid of losing her job) There are many doctors > that would > be as shocked as we are to hear this story and would probably > respect a nurse > even more for not wanting to work for such a negligent doctor. I am > so sorry > to hear your story. > > At least you have your son though. My heart aches for all of you > who have > lost your children. > > Celeste > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 O. -- it is very positive that you have a doctor willing to testify for you. That could make the difference. I think if someone with Ashermans wins a law suit, then the doctors would talk about it and they will work harder to prevent it, even if it is to just cover themselves. That would prevent others from experiencing this in the future. We all understand in this group. You and I are extremely, extremely, extremely blessed to have the kids we do, even if our dreams of how are family would look like have been shattered. Also, it is new and fresh to you, but I can tell you that as the years go by, it really gets less painful (emotionally). Take Care, Jane Re: Re:litigation > > > Jane, > > Did you tell us this story before? The reason I ask is because I am > SHOCKED! > I think I would have remembered this story!! The more stories I > hear, the > worst they get! Have you sought legal counsel or is it your word > against > theirs? I am very surprised that at least one nurse would not have > spoken > up. ( Probably afraid of losing her job) There are many doctors > that would > be as shocked as we are to hear this story and would probably > respect a nurse > even more for not wanting to work for such a negligent doctor. I am > so sorry > to hear your story. > > At least you have your son though. My heart aches for all of you > who have > lost your children. > > Celeste > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2000 Report Share Posted June 8, 2000 , Hi. I think your story is terrible. Someone else should have delivered your baby if the doctor had an infection. I don't have any great words of advice but, I hope you enjoy and love your son every minute of the day. That's what I do since I most likely can't have any more babies I want to enjoy every moment I have with my son. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you. Tanyia > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups >To: Ashermansegroups >Subject: Re: Re:litigation >Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 20:37:16 -0400 > >Hi my name is I just joined this group. I was diagnosed about a >year ago with Ashermens. I too also had retained placenta , it was left >in for amonth which in turn ended up infecting and causing ashermans. >They did laproscopy twice, injected dye, tried all different hormones, >then on my second surgery to try and remove scar tisuue the doctor >removed a little bit. He removed enough for me to get pregnant which >resulted in me having a miscarriage. Because my uterus was so badly >damaged they had to do an emergency hysterectomy(march3,2000). I have >contacted a lawyer and I am in the process of trying to sue the doctor. >The doctor that delivered my son was wearing sunglasses when he >delivered my son beacuse he said he had an eye infection. In my opinion >I think if he wasnt wearing sunglasses maybe placenta would not have >been left. The glasses he was wearing were so dark I couldnt even see >his eyes. When I went to go and get all my files I saw that he signed >saying he removed all the placenta. That is not true and he never should >have signed that piece of paper. Anyways i am finding it so hard to sue >him, nobody wants to help me all the doctors stick together. I think I >may have found a doctor in another city who is going to be on my side. >He agrees that this doctor messed up. When this doctor that delivered my >son did my D & C I was told that he removed most of my lining and that >there was also a hole in my uterus. When he performed my D & C he was >leaving for China the next day and he was in a big rush to leave, so he >basically did it in a hurry. My son will be three in August, so I have >been dealing with this for three years. I am getting tired and >frustrated I dont know if I can take much more of this. I know I have to >sue only for the purpose that what if he does this to somebody else. It >is not right. He was negligent and I think he should be made aware of >that fact. He took all my hopes and dreams of having more children away >from me. Now that I have had to have a hysterectomy its finished, before >there was always hope that maybe the problem could be fixed but not >anymore. Anyways I just want to say good luck to everbody and if anyone >has any advice or comforting words please write. > >Love Ouimet >Retro@... > >Tanyia Pino wrote: > > > , > > Hi. I was very interested to hear that you went to a lawyers office > > after > > hearing your story. I went into preterm labor at 26 weeks, they were > > able > > to stop the labor with medication and from then on I was on mandatory > > bedrest in the hospital (where I almost delivered a 2nd time). I had > > vaginal and regular ultrasounds everyday from then on and at about 33 > > weeks > > the specialist brought in specifically for me noticed I had two > > placentas. > > When I asked how that happens he replied, " Don't worry many animals > > have > > that too!!!! " I delivered naturally at 34 1/2 weeks with a very > > painful > > extraction of the placenta. I remember seeing the doctors face as she > > was > > removing the placenta and she had a very worried look on her and she > > said > > something like " shit " and then the drugs she gave me knocked me out. > > About > > one week after the delivery I was still bleeding which I thought was > > normal > > until a golf ball size clot came out. I was still boarding in the > > hospital, > > my son was in the NICU, so I showed the nurse. She did not think it > > was a > > problem. One week later after I returned home I was having terrible > > cramps > > in my abdomin, called the doctor and they rushed me to the hospital > > for an > > emergency D & C. They put a balloon in to try to keep the uterus open > > but > > from that moment on all the doctors in the group seemed very nervous > > around > > me. They told me I may never be able to have another child. At the > > time I > > wasn't concerned I just wanted to concentrate on my baby. They even > > sent a > > hospital psychologist to speak with me several times. The doctor who > > delivered the baby never visited again except once briefly. After > > that > > people tried to get me to see a lawyer but I had only my baby in > > mind. I > > have seen 3 specialists and they all think my chances are very slim to > > > > conceive again. I am in the midst of having my sister be a > > surrogate. But > > maybe I should see a lawyer. What does it entail? The doctors all > > said > > they tried they're best. I don't know what to do. Any suggestions > > would be > > appreciated. > > > > Tanyia > > > > > > >From: Chrissnappy@... > > >Reply-To: Ashermansegroups > > >To: Ashermansegroups > > >Subject: Re:litigation > > >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:05:11 EDT > > > > > >Celest > > >I also went to speak to a law firm after I spent a week in the > > hospital due > > >to my doctors negligence of not removing all the placenta. My OBGYN > > office > > >has four doctors that you alternate with. One of them delivered and > > then > > >another sent me to ER when I went in so sick I could barely stand and > > then > > >yet another performed the emergency DNC. > > >The doctor who performed the DNC came to see the next day and told me > > that > > >he > > >filled an entire bucket of debris and that he thought maybe there was > > a > > >hole > > >in my uterus. Now my question now is how come they did not do an u/s > > to > > >find > > >out. His exact words were " I put the instrument in to pull out debris > > one > > >time and it would stop but then the next time it would just keep > > going. " > > >Anyway when I spoke to the Law firm they told me I did not have a > > case in > > >regard to the retained placenta but if I were told that I could not > > have > > >any > > >more children that would definitely be a case. Has anyone gotten a > > >percentage > > >rate on the chances of getting pregnant with Ashermans? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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