LID & molasses (was Re: IAN, comment)

[Guest guest]

One thing that I think that we are ALL forgetting is

that the LID stands for LOW Iodine Diet, it does not

stand for NO Iodine diet. Remember that we are all

trying to stay under the 50 mcg /day.

We can't let ourselves be driven crazy over this

issue. My physician allows foods on an " exchange "

basis, much like the Diabetic diet does. He has

listed certain foods as containing small amounts of

iodine and I am allowed small amounts of these foods.

(This includes brown sugar in small amounts). Almost

every food group contains foods that have a small

amount of iodine in every food and their are not many

" free foods " including vegitables or fruit. Water is

about the only thing that is " free " .

I think that may be why we are seeing so much

descripancy across the country on these minor issues.

The general idea that everyone has is to ELIMATE the

biggest offenders which include dairy, seafood, and

iodized salts which we are all sticking to. (right

now I can't remember any other biggies because of

being hypo).

Remember that we all try our best and if we follow the

LID closely than we will all have successful scans.

Let's not drive ourselves crazy with this.

Kari

43 yo Hurthle cell, tt in 08/01, waiting for first

scan 10/15 if my TSH is high enough and hopefully RAI

after that.

--- katiekabob@... wrote:

> I hate to sound so cynical but with few exceptions,

> I don't think most people handing out the LID know

> what's on it or why. Whenever I have been given LID

> instructions, not only have they varied

> one from another, but inevitably, they have been

> lifted from another institution, and no one seems to

> know who actually did the research.

>

> When I have questioned the doctors on inclusions or

> exclusions, they shrug. I think the overall feeling

> is, it's only 2 weeks, and it's only a few foods,

> and not many of them are inclined to do

> any research into it. One exception that comes to

> mind is Lee, MD, an endo who does regular

> urine testing on her patients. Two years ago I

> posted my notes from her LID seminar; she

> tells me she is expecting her study to be published

> in a few months. I am staying on top of it, and

> will post the info as soon as it is ready.

>

> A while back, Jill put a lot of time into

> researching the molasses/iodine connection, and, as

> Ian has said, there doesn't seem to be iodine in

> molasses. The NIH diet disallows SULFURED molasses,

> but doesn't mention unsulfured, so that might just

> be the key.

>

> Personally, I don't find it all that much of a

> hardship, and am willing to forgo molasses and brown

> sugar for the 2 weeks, until something more

> definitive is published. Now if someone could only

> prove that milk has no iodine .... :-)

>

>

> -

> NYC (TT 2/99 dx pap/foll; RAI 100 mCi 3/99 & 4/00;

> current TSH ~.06 on .225 levothyroxine)

>

>

> chris nelson wrote:

>

> > Hi Ian,

> >

> > I spoke with Albany Medical Center Nuc. Med. Dept.

> this morning. I asked

> > about the brown sugar and molasses. I was told

> that molasses contains

> > iodine, and that brown sugar is white sugar with

> molasses, therefore it's

> > not allowed.

> >

> >

> > Near Albany NY

> > TT 7/27/01; pap w/foll variant; RAI mid Dec.

> >

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

& & Kari

In October 2000 I sent an email to every sugar producer, manufacturer or

trade organisation that I could find, asking for any data that they had on

iodine content.

As usual, most didn't answer, but two did. One said:

" The iodine content of a wide variety of sugar products is listed in McCance

and Widdowson's " The Composition of foods " which most dieticians will keep

on their bookshelf.

Most of the sugar products listed have extremely low levels of iodine,

including Black Treacle. "

The other said that the matter was under investigation. I have just emailed

her to find if she has any detail yet.

I agree with 's comment about people not knowing who did the research,

and in some cases the ban is from a well-meaning but incorrect assumption.

The only molasses product that I have ever found with a significant iodine

content is an cattle feed based on molasses, to which assorted minerals

including iodine have been added. I assume that this is not a regular part of

anyone's diet but until I have evidence to the contrary I dare not say so.

I also agree with Kari, but with one caveat. Some foods might be listed

because of 'small but significant' iodine contents, others may be listed

because of a 'usually insignificant, but sometimes sky-high' iodine content.

The latter may be a problem and at the moment we cannot be sure, because

nobody knows why molasses is on the banned list or who put it there.

I'd love to know why the NIH lists sulfured molasses as different from

ordinary, but again, no-one knows who did the research.

And 's final point, no, it's not a hardship, but wouldn't it be nice to

know for sure? There are many foods that are PROBABLY low, and which can be

eaten in reduced amounts, which would make the LID a whole lot easier.

Ian

> I hate to sound so cynical but with few exceptions, I don't think most

people handing out the LID know what's on it or why. Whenever I have been

given LID instructions, not only have they varied > one from another, but

inevitably, they have been lifted from another institution, and no one seems

to know who actually did the research. >

> When I have questioned the doctors on inclusions or exclusions, they shrug.

I think the overall feeling is, it's only 2 weeks, and it's only a few foods,

and not many of them are inclined to do > any research into it. One

exception that comes to mind is Lee, MD, an endo who does regular

urine testing on her patients. Two years ago I posted my notes from her LID

seminar; she > tells me she is expecting her study to be published in a few

months. I am staying on top of it, and will post the info as soon as it is

ready. >

> A while back, Jill put a lot of time into researching the molasses/iodine

connection, and, as Ian has said, there doesn't seem to be iodine in

molasses. The NIH diet disallows SULFURED molasses, > but doesn't mention

unsulfured, so that might just be the key. >

> Personally, I don't find it all that much of a hardship, and am willing to

forgo molasses and brown sugar for the 2 weeks, until something more

definitive is published. Now if someone could only > prove that milk has no

iodine .... :-) >

> > -

> NYC (TT 2/99 dx pap/foll; RAI 100 mCi 3/99 & 4/00; current TSH ~.06 on .225

levothyroxine) >

> > chris nelson wrote:

> > > Hi Ian,

> > > > I spoke with Albany Medical Center Nuc. Med. Dept. this morning. I

asked > > about the brown sugar and molasses. I was told that molasses

contains > > iodine, and that brown sugar is white sugar with molasses,

therefore it's > > not allowed.

> > > >

> > Near Albany NY > > TT 7/27/01; pap w/foll variant; RAI mid Dec.

> > >

> > For more information regarding thyroid cancer visit www.thyca.org. If

you do not wish to belong to this group, you may UNSUBSCRIBE by sending a

blank email to thyca-unsubscribe >

> >