Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 I did the Lemonade Fast at one time from the book The Master Cleanse by Stanley Burroughs, an excellent book. I never realized much about lemons and maple syrup till that book. Lemons turn into alkaline once they hit your digestive system and maple syrup and all the nutrients that are in it and it is a very fine food. My father in his younger years was raised in Marquette, Michigan. On there farm outside of town he had what he called the Sugar Shack where he made maple syrup. He was telling me that maple syrup is actually considered a vegetable. I never new that! I did the 10 day fast from that book and I remember my thinking at that time was I can do that you can drink warm or cold, taste good and it was easy to take to work already made what could be better and easier, plus taste great. Better then the green taste. I always wanted to find the easy way from me and my taste buds. But I have to tell you my big weakness always has been SUGAR, I just have a real liking for that. With the lemonade diet I love the taste but the maple syrup feed the candida and it wasn't solving the problem so what I did down the line was on a fast if I drank the lemonade and if I wanted sweeter I would add stevia which doesn't feed the problem. The lemonade cool or warm with cayenne only, actually isn't that bad tasting and it is great for the kidneys. I have to add I even at one time tried a fast with carrot,apple and ginger for 24 days and at that time I only lost 8 lbs in the 24 days and I should lost much more but it was feeding the candida. About 6 months later after trying the lemonade fast and I started getting real sick that lead me into the 37 day fast by then I knew what I had to really buckle down and do was green only, cleanse out all that old hard debris that was stuck then feed my body with liquid life (greens and water) If you ask yourself how on earth did I stay on that for that length of time, #1 I know that it works #2 I finally made myself sick enough I was severely numb from head to toe except my right thumb, I could hardly walk because of the pain from the numbness (it felt like broken glass stuck in my skin) I couldn't even stand to wear sock or have the sheets touch my feet. I was in sever pain, so I kept going as things were getting better each week from what i was doing that is what kept me going. My goal was to make it to 40 days like Jesus did but on day 37 I told myself, " That's why Jesus is Jesus and is , I am done! " Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Thank you , so, are you completly OK now? ...RP Kopera wrote: I did the Lemonade Fast at one time from the book The Master Cleanse by Stanley Burroughs, an excellent book. I never realized much about lemons and maple syrup till that book. Lemons turn into alkaline once they hit your digestive system and maple syrup and all the nutrients that are in it and it is a very fine food. My father in his younger years was raised in Marquette, Michigan. On there farm outside of town he had what he called the Sugar Shack where he made maple syrup. He was telling me that maple syrup is actually considered a vegetable. I never new that! I did the 10 day fast from that book and I remember my thinking at that time was I can do that you can drink warm or cold, taste good and it was easy to take to work already made what could be better and easier, plus taste great. Better then the green taste. I always wanted to find the easy way from me and my taste buds. But I have to tell you my big weakness always has been SUGAR, I just have a real liking for that. With the lemonade diet I love the taste but the maple syrup feed the candida and it wasn't solving the problem so what I did down the line was on a fast if I drank the lemonade and if I wanted sweeter I would add stevia which doesn't feed the problem. The lemonade cool or warm with cayenne only, actually isn't that bad tasting and it is great for the kidneys. I have to add I even at one time tried a fast with carrot,apple and ginger for 24 days and at that time I only lost 8 lbs in the 24 days and I should lost much more but it was feeding the candida. About 6 months later after trying the lemonade fast and I started getting real sick that lead me into the 37 day fast by then I knew what I had to really buckle down and do was green only, cleanse out all that old hard debris that was stuck then feed my body with liquid life (greens and water) If you ask yourself how on earth did I stay on that for that length of time, #1 I know that it works #2 I finally made myself sick enough I was severely numb from head to toe except my right thumb, I could hardly walk because of the pain from the numbness (it felt like broken glass stuck in my skin) I couldn't even stand to wear sock or have the sheets touch my feet. I was in sever pain, so I kept going as things were getting better each week from what i was doing that is what kept me going. My goal was to make it to 40 days like Jesus did but on day 37 I told myself, " That's why Jesus is Jesus and is , I am done! " Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Thats what happened to me, I new it worked but I wasnt taking myself far enough. All of my fasting was over a period of time that is where I received the experience of trying different ones. " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi , I am so glad you have regained your health and I too hope you can help many others on their journey to wellness. I personally don't see that I would ever fast for more then the 10 days I just did, but you never know. If my health ever fails again I might be prompted into extreme measures. Kopera wrote: > > No, I do not have any medical articles. All I know is what I saw and I > wish to God I would of took pictures not that it makes it any more > believable to someone that doesn't believe. I feel like a guy when I > took about my shit " AHH, I had a Good one!!! " HA HA! Well I really did, > not full of shit either (No punt intended!)14ft from day 16 to day 37. I > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 I believe between the psylluim and bentonite clay in the formula it is grabbing all the gunk, If all of you guys would of been there to see this stuff come out it was a dry as a bone and when I would wipe fake fragment would come off there was no smearing mess and it was huge solid pieces coming out at least a foot at a time, then the last colonics I got done which I did every Sunday on that fast the stuff coming out was very narrow the size of a pencil in diameter and there was one piece that was a curly cue about 6 " long. the reason I tell you that that is the size of the colon it was shrunk back by that time how it should be, we shouldn't get big compacted stuff that is a sign of constipation. Sorry for the graphics but to help give a understanding. You know, when something has aged from the weather or such it gets dry and brittle that is what it is like and it makes since because of YEARS of build up. I just someday you all will get feed up and try this route as I did and you will know exactly what I am talking about, it is amazing. I have to add to took me a long time to believe that all of this was true, I for a long time found it to hard to believe. Kopera " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi , Perhaps when you are eating more normally the herbs get mixed in with the normal waste and are not as obvious. When their is no food in the bowel then what ever you are ingesting will have to come out. IN horses we use pysllium to help with sand in the gut. It used to be thought the psyllium grabbed the sand and took it out of the intestine because it swelled so much. After many studies they found this was not the case at all, it simply was acting as a soothing agent to help with irritated gut lining. I guess its time for some double blind studies on this subject. Kopera wrote: > > I often wonder that myself about how this formula bulks up in your > body how much of that is from the herb combination itself. All you > have to do is put a little in water and you can see what happens it > bulks up big time. > Now from my own experience what was coming out of me it could of been > some of the herbs I was taking but when > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi , I don't think having anything coming out of you dry as a bone is healthy at all. Even if what is coming out needs to come out it should be soft and moist. The bowels absorb water and psyllium and bentonite are like major sponges. If you were not drinking enough it could cause serious trouble. We have about 5k pounds of bentonite clay at our place right now, bought to line the bottom of a a pond. Because of its ability to soak up huge amounts of water its very good for that. If your bowels were dry then I would say the products soaked up so much water there was nothing left to soak up. I give both Psyllium and Bentonite to my horses but in very small amounts and usually mixed with mineral salts to make them thirsty. Also as far as size of bowels, I have always been taught that the feces should be about the size of a banana and that pencil size stools could be a sign of cancer or polyps. My friend just went to the doctor for some bowel related issues and he concurred about that fact. Anyone else care to comment?? @ Morning sun Kopera wrote: > > I believe between the psylluim and bentonite clay in the formula it is > grabbing all the gunk, If all of you guys would of been there to see > this stuff come out it was a dry as a bone and when I would wipe fake > fragment would come off there was no smearing mess and it was huge > solid pieces coming out at least a foot at a time, then the last > colonics I got done which I did every Sunday on that fast the stuff > coming out was very narrow the size of a pencil in diameter and there > was one piece that was a curly cue about 6 " long. the reason I tell > you that that is the size of the colon it was shrunk back by that time > how it should be, we shouldn't get big compacted stuff that is a sign > of constipation. Sorry for the graphics but to help give a understanding. > You know, when something has aged from the weather or such it gets dry > and brittle that is what it is like and it makes since because of > YEARS of build up. I just someday you all will get feed up and try > this route as I did and you will know exactly what I am talking about, > it is amazing. > I have to add to took me a long time to believe that all of this was > true, I for a long time found it to hard to believe. > > Kopera > > " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Yes, here's my comment. I took bentonite clay (different than the type used to line stock tanks, which we have used here at the ranch) and didn't see anything dry in my stools. I never took massive amounts and I drank lots of water. If you have rapid transit, your stools are much smaller (thinner) and nutrients are not able to be absorbed as well. It sounds as though there wasn't enough fiber, soluble or insoluble, in the diet. When this happens, you also are not able to regulate sugar in your blood as optimally as when stools are bulkier and take awhile longer to pass. There is some differentiation between constipation and slower passing stools, just as there is a line between " normal " stools and thin or watery ones. The whole process of this dry fecal matter and colon cleansing seems odd. I don't see how it's possible (even though it might be) that anything dry and crumbly can come out of a wet environment, especially if it has been there for years. I'm not doubting that it happened to Kopera, I just don't understand it. " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi , I don't think having anything coming out of you dry as a bone is healthy at all. Even if what is coming out needs to come out it should be soft and moist. The bowels absorb water and psyllium and bentonite are like major sponges. If you were not drinking enough it could cause serious trouble. We have about 5k pounds of bentonite clay at our place right now, bought to line the bottom of a a pond. Because of its ability to soak up huge amounts of water its very good for that. If your bowels were dry then I would say the products soaked up so much water there was nothing left to soak up. I give both Psyllium and Bentonite to my horses but in very small amounts and usually mixed with mineral salts to make them thirsty. Also as far as size of bowels, I have always been taught that the feces should be about the size of a banana and that pencil size stools could be a sign of cancer or polyps. My friend just went to the doctor for some bowel related issues and he concurred about that fact. Anyone else care to comment?? @ Morning sun --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi There, The black stuff coming out of me was solid, diameter of a banana and a foot or longer each time. Yes I agree that that doesnt seem right or healthy because I wasnt right or healthy until all that came out. I can proudly say, Now I have Conquered MS and I owe it all to that. I have danced around and around with so many different products and ideas and until I gave up what I was doing for a short time look what it did for me, it healed me. Messing with ones taste buds is a hard thing to change or give up. Until you stop doing what you did to get you there in the first place and cleanse out that old debris, nothing will change. It was years of build up of all the improper eating and mucous, really how would you think it should look.I invested years of not taking care of myself. The diameter of the colon I learned that from the gal that did the colonics and I have never research it any further but I trust she has to know what she is talking about after all that is her shitty job. hahaha!!!! kopera " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi , I don't think having anything coming out of you dry as a bone is healthy at all. Even if what is coming out needs to come out it should be soft and moist. The bowels absorb water and psyllium and bentonite are like major sponges. If you were not drinking enough it could cause serious trouble. We have about 5k pounds of bentonite clay at our place right now, bought to line the bottom of a a pond. Because of its ability to soak up huge amounts of water its very good for that. If your bowels were dry then I would say the products soaked up so much water there was nothing left to soak up. I give both Psyllium and Bentonite to my horses but in very small amounts and usually mixed with mineral salts to make them thirsty. Also as far as size of bowels, I have always been taught that the feces should be about the size of a banana and that pencil size stools could be a sign of cancer or polyps. My friend just went to the doctor for some bowel related issues and he concurred about that fact. Anyone else care to comment?? @ Morning sun Kopera wrote: > > I believe between the psylluim and bentonite clay in the formula it is > grabbing all the gunk, If all of you guys would of been there to see > this stuff come out it was a dry as a bone and when I would wipe fake > fragment would come off there was no smearing mess and it was huge > solid pieces coming out at least a foot at a time, then the last > colonics I got done which I did every Sunday on that fast the stuff > coming out was very narrow the size of a pencil in diameter and there > was one piece that was a curly cue about 6 " long. the reason I tell > you that that is the size of the colon it was shrunk back by that time > how it should be, we shouldn't get big compacted stuff that is a sign > of constipation. Sorry for the graphics but to help give a understanding. > You know, when something has aged from the weather or such it gets dry > and brittle that is what it is like and it makes since because of > YEARS of build up. I just someday you all will get feed up and try > this route as I did and you will know exactly what I am talking about, > it is amazing. > I have to add to took me a long time to believe that all of this was > true, I for a long time found it to hard to believe. > > Kopera > > " > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 It must be years of diaper changing, and or being around horses, that women can discuss this subject so freely. But I think I can speak for the guys here and say, we will keep our distance. ....RP Kopera wrote: Hi There, The black stuff coming out of me was solid, diameter of a banana and a foot or longer each time. Yes I agree that that doesnt seem right or healthy because I wasnt right or healthy until all that came out. I can proudly say, Now I have Conquered MS and I owe it all to that. I have danced around and around with so many different products and ideas and until I gave up what I was doing for a short time look what it did for me, it healed me. Messing with ones taste buds is a hard thing to change or give up. Until you stop doing what you did to get you there in the first place and cleanse out that old debris, nothing will change. It was years of build up of all the improper eating and mucous, really how would you think it should look.I invested years of not taking care of myself. The diameter of the colon I learned that from the gal that did the colonics and I have never research it any further but I trust she has to know what she is talking about after all that is her shitty job. hahaha!!!! kopera " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi , I don't think having anything coming out of you dry as a bone is healthy at all. Even if what is coming out needs to come out it should be soft and moist. The bowels absorb water and psyllium and bentonite are like major sponges. If you were not drinking enough it could cause serious trouble. We have about 5k pounds of bentonite clay at our place right now, bought to line the bottom of a a pond. Because of its ability to soak up huge amounts of water its very good for that. If your bowels were dry then I would say the products soaked up so much water there was nothing left to soak up. I give both Psyllium and Bentonite to my horses but in very small amounts and usually mixed with mineral salts to make them thirsty. Also as far as size of bowels, I have always been taught that the feces should be about the size of a banana and that pencil size stools could be a sign of cancer or polyps. My friend just went to the doctor for some bowel related issues and he concurred about that fact. Anyone else care to comment?? @ Morning sun Kopera wrote: > > I believe between the psylluim and bentonite clay in the formula it is > grabbing all the gunk, If all of you guys would of been there to see > this stuff come out it was a dry as a bone and when I would wipe fake > fragment would come off there was no smearing mess and it was huge > solid pieces coming out at least a foot at a time, then the last > colonics I got done which I did every Sunday on that fast the stuff > coming out was very narrow the size of a pencil in diameter and there > was one piece that was a curly cue about 6 " long. the reason I tell > you that that is the size of the colon it was shrunk back by that time > how it should be, we shouldn't get big compacted stuff that is a sign > of constipation. Sorry for the graphics but to help give a understanding. > You know, when something has aged from the weather or such it gets dry > and brittle that is what it is like and it makes since because of > YEARS of build up. I just someday you all will get feed up and try > this route as I did and you will know exactly what I am talking about, > it is amazing. > I have to add to took me a long time to believe that all of this was > true, I for a long time found it to hard to believe. > > Kopera > > " > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 I know many shy away about talking about it but as I have gotten into all this stuff I have found there is one thing we all have in common and it is: My favorite subject poop and parasites. How was yours today!!!HaHa Kopera rich perillo wrote: It must be years of diaper changing, and or being around horses, that women can discuss this subject so freely. But I think I can speak for the guys here and say, we will keep our distance. ....RP Kopera wrote: Hi There, The black stuff coming out of me was solid, diameter of a banana and a foot or longer each time. Yes I agree that that doesnt seem right or healthy because I wasnt right or healthy until all that came out. I can proudly say, Now I have Conquered MS and I owe it all to that. I have danced around and around with so many different products and ideas and until I gave up what I was doing for a short time look what it did for me, it healed me. Messing with ones taste buds is a hard thing to change or give up. Until you stop doing what you did to get you there in the first place and cleanse out that old debris, nothing will change. It was years of build up of all the improper eating and mucous, really how would you think it should look.I invested years of not taking care of myself. The diameter of the colon I learned that from the gal that did the colonics and I have never research it any further but I trust she has to know what she is talking about after all that is her shitty job. hahaha!!!! kopera " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi , I don't think having anything coming out of you dry as a bone is healthy at all. Even if what is coming out needs to come out it should be soft and moist. The bowels absorb water and psyllium and bentonite are like major sponges. If you were not drinking enough it could cause serious trouble. We have about 5k pounds of bentonite clay at our place right now, bought to line the bottom of a a pond. Because of its ability to soak up huge amounts of water its very good for that. If your bowels were dry then I would say the products soaked up so much water there was nothing left to soak up. I give both Psyllium and Bentonite to my horses but in very small amounts and usually mixed with mineral salts to make them thirsty. Also as far as size of bowels, I have always been taught that the feces should be about the size of a banana and that pencil size stools could be a sign of cancer or polyps. My friend just went to the doctor for some bowel related issues and he concurred about that fact. Anyone else care to comment?? @ Morning sun Kopera wrote: > > I believe between the psylluim and bentonite clay in the formula it is > grabbing all the gunk, If all of you guys would of been there to see > this stuff come out it was a dry as a bone and when I would wipe fake > fragment would come off there was no smearing mess and it was huge > solid pieces coming out at least a foot at a time, then the last > colonics I got done which I did every Sunday on that fast the stuff > coming out was very narrow the size of a pencil in diameter and there > was one piece that was a curly cue about 6 " long. the reason I tell > you that that is the size of the colon it was shrunk back by that time > how it should be, we shouldn't get big compacted stuff that is a sign > of constipation. Sorry for the graphics but to help give a understanding. > You know, when something has aged from the weather or such it gets dry > and brittle that is what it is like and it makes since because of > YEARS of build up. I just someday you all will get feed up and try > this route as I did and you will know exactly what I am talking about, > it is amazing. > I have to add to took me a long time to believe that all of this was > true, I for a long time found it to hard to believe. > > Kopera > > " > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Well, I don't have expertise in this area, but I guess my comment would be that Kopera is now symptom free for over 2 and 1/2 years, specifically since her 37 day juice fast and cleanse and pooping the dry black stuff-- so what she did apparently worked. -- In mscured , " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: > > Hi , > > I don't think having anything coming out of you dry as a bone is healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi , I don't deny that you saw the stuff come out, my concern would be that others think in order to be healthy they will have to have the same thing happen. I am completely well and have never seen anything weird, even after parasite cleansing. I eat meat also and so was expecting the worst. As far as size of colon, all of the babies diapers that I have changed have large size bowels. I also always checked my kids as they were growing and same thing. If you do a search on colon cancer, one of the first signs is pencil size stools, I think I will keep looking for bananas! Kopera wrote: > > Hi There, > > The black stuff coming out of me was solid, diameter of a banana and a > foot or longer each time. Yes I agree that that doesnt seem right or > healthy because I wasnt right or healthy until all that came out. I > can proudly say, Now I have Conquered MS and I owe it all to that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 Hi Rich, This is one reason why men die so young. If more people were comfortable talking about bowel health, or even thinking about it, Americans might be more healthy overall. I am still blown away when I ask people how many times they go and the answer is 2-3 times per week. And the really scary thing is that they think its normal. Well it may be normal for them but certainly not healthy. I gave some enzymes to a friend of mine awhile back and told him to take 4 per day. After a few weeks he told me he was only going to take 1 because they were making him go to the bathroom more. Somehow we as Americans have decided its not a good idea to go more then its convenient or something like that. I do look at manure alot, its the way I can tell if the horse is healthy or not. For a horse being constipated is a life and death situation so you have to manage them carefully. If a person died after a short bit of constipation we might pay closer attention to what goes in the toilet. rich perillo wrote: > > It must be years of diaper changing, and or being around horses, that > women can discuss this subject so freely. But I think I can speak for > the guys here and say, we will keep our distance. ....RP > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2007 Report Share Posted November 19, 2007 I know, I know. I'll try to have a more symbiotic relationship with my toilet. ....RP " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi Rich, This is one reason why men die so young. If more people were comfortable talking about bowel health, or even thinking about it, Americans might be more healthy overall. I am still blown away when I ask people how many times they go and the answer is 2-3 times per week. And the really scary thing is that they think its normal. Well it may be normal for them but certainly not healthy. I gave some enzymes to a friend of mine awhile back and told him to take 4 per day. After a few weeks he told me he was only going to take 1 because they were making him go to the bathroom more. Somehow we as Americans have decided its not a good idea to go more then its convenient or something like that. I do look at manure alot, its the way I can tell if the horse is healthy or not. For a horse being constipated is a life and death situation so you have to manage them carefully. If a person died after a short bit of constipation we might pay closer attention to what goes in the toilet. rich perillo wrote: > > It must be years of diaper changing, and or being around horses, that > women can discuss this subject so freely. But I think I can speak for > the guys here and say, we will keep our distance. ....RP > > --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2007 Report Share Posted November 20, 2007 Hi , No need to worry about that, I should of made myself clearer. When that happened with the pencil size poop was when I was at the end of the 37 day fast, as life went on from that time now which that fast took place 3 years ago my poop return to the banana, because of eating habits. During that fast it just goes to show how the colon gets stretch out and compacted from constipation. Dr said a normal stool should not be formed as we are talking about, but it shouldn't be diarrhea either. Kopera " Kindscher (Charter) " wrote: Hi , I don't deny that you saw the stuff come out, my concern would be that others think in order to be healthy they will have to have the same thing happen. I am completely well and have never seen anything weird, even after parasite cleansing. I eat meat also and so was expecting the worst. As far as size of colon, all of the babies diapers that I have changed have large size bowels. I also always checked my kids as they were growing and same thing. If you do a search on colon cancer, one of the first signs is pencil size stools, I think I will keep looking for bananas! Kopera wrote: > > Hi There, > > The black stuff coming out of me was solid, diameter of a banana and a > foot or longer each time. Yes I agree that that doesnt seem right or > healthy because I wasnt right or healthy until all that came out. I > can proudly say, Now I have Conquered MS and I owe it all to that. > Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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