Texas EMS-L Rumor List

[Guest guest]

I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and I understand the

hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel obliged to.

Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to remain serving Arlington,

and in fact, has performed very well in the last few months. The

Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take over EMS.

Danny Kocurek

Medical Director

City of Arlington EMS System

[Guest guest]

Aww, Dr Kocurek, you've gone a ruined a MONTH's worth of great rumors. And

who are you to post success stories about a private EMS service like Rural

Metro? Don't you care about the citizens of Arlington? I mean, R/M doesn't

even use Texas certified/licensed medics, do they? I thought they just

hired folks off the street who had at least SEEN an ambulance before...

ROFLMAO. And ducking for cover...

Mike

<still lauging>

Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and I understand the

> hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel obliged to.

> Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to remain serving Arlington,

> and in fact, has performed very well in the last few months. The

> Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take over EMS.

> Danny Kocurek

> Medical Director

> City of Arlington EMS System

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com:

> http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

How did you know that R/M did this. It's been there hiring practice for

years seems like.....LOL

rxmd

Re: Texas EMS-L Rumor List

>Aww, Dr Kocurek, you've gone a ruined a MONTH's worth of great rumors. And

>who are you to post success stories about a private EMS service like Rural

>Metro? Don't you care about the citizens of Arlington? I mean, R/M

doesn't

>even use Texas certified/licensed medics, do they? I thought they just

>hired folks off the street who had at least SEEN an ambulance before...

>

>ROFLMAO. And ducking for cover...

>

>Mike

>

><still lauging>

>

> Texas EMS-L Rumor List

>

>

>> I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and I understand the

>> hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel obliged to.

>> Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to remain serving Arlington,

>> and in fact, has performed very well in the last few months. The

>> Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take over EMS.

>> Danny Kocurek

>> Medical Director

>> City of Arlington EMS System

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>> You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com:

>> http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>

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[Guest guest]

Aha! Someone agrees with me! That must make it " truth " !

Scary thing is, those folks that have seen an ambulance (and correctly

identified it as such) are *still* more qualified than those services who do

a two-week introductory training session on " What does an ambulance look

like " and " Why you don't have to stop and pull to the right when you hear

your *own* siren "

Mike

Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> >

> >

> >> I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and I understand the

> >> hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel obliged to.

> >> Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to remain serving Arlington,

> >> and in fact, has performed very well in the last few months. The

> >> Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take over EMS.

> >> Danny Kocurek

> >> Medical Director

> >> City of Arlington EMS System

> >>

> >>

>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >> You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com:

> >> http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

>

>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> >>

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Mike, I think you are way out of line on your statements about Rural/Metro.

If R/M did not use texas cert. medics then I believe that TDH would be on

that like stink on doo doo.

GS

[Guest guest]

Mike,

How special. Personal attacks on a group of people

that you have never met. All clumped into one big,

group. I would like you to email me privately, there

are a few things I would like to ask you.

Connie

--- " W. , EMT-I " wrote:

> Aww, Dr Kocurek, you've gone a ruined a MONTH's

> worth of great rumors. And

> who are you to post success stories about a private

> EMS service like Rural

> Metro? Don't you care about the citizens of

> Arlington? I mean, R/M doesn't

> even use Texas certified/licensed medics, do they?

> I thought they just

> hired folks off the street who had at least SEEN an

> ambulance before...

>

> ROFLMAO. And ducking for cover...

>

> Mike

>

> <still lauging>

>

> Texas EMS-L Rumor List

>

>

> > I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and

> I understand the

> > hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel

> obliged to.

> > Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to

> remain serving Arlington,

> > and in fact, has performed very well in the last

> few months. The

> > Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take

> over EMS.

> > Danny Kocurek

> > Medical Director

> > City of Arlington EMS System

> >

> >

> >

>

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> > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at

> iHello.com:

> >

>

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> >

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> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I agree with Connie. I have to admit that most of what I read here upsets

me. I don't think it is necessary to bash anyone, or any service, to get a

valid point across. It really saddens me that this is how a part of the EMS

community treats each other.

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>Mike,

> How special. Personal attacks on a group of people

>that you have never met. All clumped into one big,

>group. I would like you to email me privately, there

>are a few things I would like to ask you.

>Connie

>

>--- " W. , EMT-I " wrote:

> > Aww, Dr Kocurek, you've gone a ruined a MONTH's

> > worth of great rumors. And

> > who are you to post success stories about a private

> > EMS service like Rural

> > Metro? Don't you care about the citizens of

> > Arlington? I mean, R/M doesn't

> > even use Texas certified/licensed medics, do they?

> > I thought they just

> > hired folks off the street who had at least SEEN an

> > ambulance before...

> >

> > ROFLMAO. And ducking for cover...

> >

> > Mike

> >

> > <still lauging>

> >

> > Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> >

> >

> > > I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and

> > I understand the

> > > hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel

> > obliged to.

> > > Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to

> > remain serving Arlington,

> > > and in fact, has performed very well in the last

> > few months. The

> > > Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take

> > over EMS.

> > > Danny Kocurek

> > > Medical Director

> > > City of Arlington EMS System

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at

> > iHello.com:

> > >

> >

>http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

> > >

> >

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> > >

> >

> >

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Are you trying to upset people or illicit a certain response such

as...well....I am sure you know what I mean. My husband works for Rural

Metro. He is a nationally registered Paramedic, he graduated at the top of

his class and yes,he is even certified. So, before you go making cute little

remarks about Rural Metro's hiring practices....don't...just stay up there

on your high horse and let us mortals do the talking.....and typing. Have a

nice weekend

> --- " W. , EMT-I " wrote:

> > Aww, Dr Kocurek, you've gone a ruined a MONTH's

> > worth of great rumors. And

> > who are you to post success stories about a private

> > EMS service like Rural

> > Metro? Don't you care about the citizens of

> > Arlington? I mean, R/M doesn't

> > even use Texas certified/licensed medics, do they?

> > I thought they just

> > hired folks off the street who had at least SEEN an

> > ambulance before...

> >

> > ROFLMAO. And ducking for cover...

> >

> > Mike

> >

> > <still lauging>

> >

> > Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> >

> >

> > > I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and

> > I understand the

> > > hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel

> > obliged to.

> > > Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to

> > remain serving Arlington,

> > > and in fact, has performed very well in the last

> > few months. The

> > > Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take

> > over EMS.

> > > Danny Kocurek

> > > Medical Director

> > > City of Arlington EMS System

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at

> > iHello.com:

> > >

> >

> http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

> > >

> >

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with brenda.....I worked for r/m for well over a year and granted some

of the medics may not be the best at times but no different than with any other

private or city based ems system.....my wife is a supervisor with rural metro

and I was a lead medic....until i left for more money at a hospital....but that

is besides the point....Mike I would suggest you take a chill pill about a

company who is damn good and provides excellent service....until maybe you work

with them...and get to know more that just mayber one or two of the possibly bad

apples that you ran into.....

Jim

sen wrote:

> Mike,

> Are you trying to upset people or illicit a certain response such

> as...well....I am sure you know what I mean. My husband works for Rural

> Metro. He is a nationally registered Paramedic, he graduated at the top of

> his class and yes,he is even certified. So, before you go making cute little

> remarks about Rural Metro's hiring practices....don't...just stay up there

> on your high horse and let us mortals do the talking.....and typing. Have a

> nice weekend

> > --- " W. , EMT-I " wrote:

> > > Aww, Dr Kocurek, you've gone a ruined a MONTH's

> > > worth of great rumors. And

> > > who are you to post success stories about a private

> > > EMS service like Rural

> > > Metro? Don't you care about the citizens of

> > > Arlington? I mean, R/M doesn't

> > > even use Texas certified/licensed medics, do they?

> > > I thought they just

> > > hired folks off the street who had at least SEEN an

> > > ambulance before...

> > >

> > > ROFLMAO. And ducking for cover...

> > >

> > > Mike

> > >

> > > <still lauging>

> > >

> > > Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> > >

> > >

> > > > I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and

> > > I understand the

> > > > hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel

> > > obliged to.

> > > > Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to

> > > remain serving Arlington,

> > > > and in fact, has performed very well in the last

> > > few months. The

> > > > Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take

> > > over EMS.

> > > > Danny Kocurek

> > > > Medical Director

> > > > City of Arlington EMS System

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at

> > > iHello.com:

> > > >

> > >

> > http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

> > > >

> > >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

oh mike and another thing....at least rural metro hasn't had to declare

bankruptcy....how many times???........

Jim

[Guest guest]

Re: All Rural Metro rumors. I spend lots of time in Tucson (Pima County),

AZ, and just about all EMS and fire services outside the Tucson City limits

are R/M. I have been greatly impressed with their service and drop into the

station about a half mile from our house frequently to visit with their

firefighter/medics.

However, it is apparent the company is in grave financial trouble. This was

pointed out to me in the most disturbing way recently: They have always

had a " rattlesnake pickup " service, so you could call them to get the

rattlers out of your yard and they would send a special snake unit manned by

a Paramedic/Snake Wrangler. They recently announced that due to cutbacks in

expenses they were eliminating the snake service. YIKES!!! Now what are we

to do when one of the big creepy-crawlies decides to sunbathe next to our

pool? Offer him a i?

The sky may indeed be falling.

Gene Gandy, JD, LP

[Guest guest]

Slapping around (verbally) the RM organization and by extension, the

employees, is the same as kicking a man when he is down. Bad form, NO

style points!

One thing I learned long ago, that especially applies to EMS...may my

words be sweet, because tomorrow, I might have to eat them.

I rode CCTs for RM/SW (Phoenix/Mesa/sdale) as a transport nurse when

I was off shift from my flying job. Sure, some people didn't like the

job; but hey, those that did the most griping probably wouldn't have been

happy anywhere, any way. Their negative attitude made life miserable for

those who were trying to make a go of it.

" Leadership is action, not position "

Larry RN CFRN LEMT-P

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[Guest guest]

Gene,

I thought they grew tougher folks out in your neck of the woods. Heck, when

we see a snake, we just kill it and be done with it. We don't need no

stinking rattlesnake truck!!

(Just funnin')

E Tyler

R/M Galv. Co.

[Guest guest]

Whats the big deal, why do you have to slap around the people that are

employed at a private?These people have to make a living too.It may not be

the first choice or their true desire ,maybe they are just trying to get a

little time under their belt.I worked for a private for five years before I

went to work for a municipality.(does that make me any less of a medic,I

dont think so)The system I work for now is one of the best in Texas.I have

the people I had the pleasure of working with to thank for the experience

that I have gained,some of the best and most experianced medics I have ever

known still work for privates,(and I have worked in EMS for 13 years.)Please

watch what you say as it may come back to haunt you,you never know you may

be the one who has no choice but to go work for a private and then you will

have to make the best of your situation.People also learn differently not

every body is cut out from the same mold.Some people tend to grasp things a

little slower and others can watch it once and perform it better than the

instructor.Everybody is different!Everybody will run a call different no two

medics will perform exactly the same.So dont be so quick to judge your

fellow medics for how they perform or what they know,instead try and teach

them or help them to be a better medic.

Geisen EMT-P

Kerrville Fire Dept.

[Guest guest]

Only when it comes to R/M. I know that what is happening is not the fault

of the employees, but of management, and the employees are the ones that are

caught in the middle. But what has happened is due to poor management and

the fact the R/M thinks that it is the ruler of EMS. R/M has left a bad

taste in a lot of mouths in Texas over the yrs. Now they are reapping what

they have sawn.

Thanks

WD ex-RM

Re: Texas EMS-L Rumor List

>I agree with Connie. I have to admit that most of what I read here upsets

>me. I don't think it is necessary to bash anyone, or any service, to get a

>valid point across. It really saddens me that this is how a part of the EMS

>community treats each other.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Little YOU know!!! These are an endangered species and If I'm caught killing

one I'll be subject to " rescue " at 0500 by a SWAT Team of snake lovers and

deported to Arkansas.

GG

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/00 8:53:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rxmd@...

writes:

<< Only when it comes to R/M. I know that what is happening is not the fault

of the employees, but of management, and the employees are the ones that are

caught in the middle. But what has happened is due to poor management and

the fact the R/M thinks that it is the ruler of EMS. R/M has left a bad

taste in a lot of mouths in Texas over the yrs. Now they are reapping what

they have sawn. >>

Amen Wayne! There are some excellent medics who work for R/M but their

management is very poor.

KC ex r/m

[Guest guest]

If a farmer has a bad crop and loses his farm, due to poor management, (not

wasting his funds, just not watching close enough) does he deserve it?

[Guest guest]

Mike I've been reading your statements and also found them rather harsh, how

'bout trying the " humor " on your service?

[Guest guest]

I thought she made a very good statement.

[Guest guest]

Either this person is

a) very, very misinformed

missing a sense of humor

or c) way too wrapped up in internet mailing lists.

It's called humor. I understand your local Rent-a-Center is running a two

week special on slightly used senses of humor.

Mike

Re: Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> Mike, I think you are way out of line on your statements about

Rural/Metro.

> If R/M did not use texas cert. medics then I believe that TDH would be on

> that like stink on doo doo.

>

>

>

> GS

>

>

[Guest guest]

Geez, people! I realize this is a rather trying situation for a lot of

folks, but can you not still recognize humor? I thought the ROFLMAO

(Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Arse Off) would have offset a lot of

this...

For anyone who's still offended, my original post was HUMOROUS. As in,

somthing to LAUGH AT.

We all need a laugh, don't we?

Mike

PS - I never thought I'd have to explain THIS one. No wonder we argue about

licensed vs. certified, NSC or not, etc. We can't even properly identify

HUMOR and SARCASM. Ugh...

Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> >

> >

> > > I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and

> > I understand the

> > > hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel

> > obliged to.

> > > Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to

> > remain serving Arlington,

> > > and in fact, has performed very well in the last

> > few months. The

> > > Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take

> > over EMS.

> > > Danny Kocurek

> > > Medical Director

> > > City of Arlington EMS System

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at

> > iHello.com:

> > >

> >

> http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

> > >

> >

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > >

> >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

*WOW!* You know, you're right! That MUST have been a comical statement,

then...

Mike :/

Re: Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> Mike, I think you are way out of line on your statements about

Rural/Metro.

> If R/M did not use texas cert. medics then I believe that TDH would be on

> that like stink on doo doo.

>

>

>

> GS

>

>

[Guest guest]

LOL, *another* one. No, for the record, I have several medics who I

consider mentors that work for R/M and volunteer alongside me, and I've had

many great interactions with R/M staff in all facets of their business.

From now on, I'll try not to throw anyone off with dry humor... god forbid

people on here actually *enjoy* being on this list. I'll let you guys fight

it amongst yourselves, and be there when you stroke out from taking

everything you read so g-dd-mned seriously.

Mike

Texas EMS-L Rumor List

> > >

> > >

> > > > I hate to interrupt all of these great rumors, and

> > > I understand the

> > > > hesitancy to post facts on this list, but I feel

> > > obliged to.

> > > > Rural/Metro Arlington has announced plans to

> > > remain serving Arlington,

> > > > and in fact, has performed very well in the last

> > > few months. The

> > > > Arlington Fire Department has no plans to take

> > > over EMS.

> > > > Danny Kocurek

> > > > Medical Director

> > > > City of Arlington EMS System

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > > You have a voice mail message waiting for you at

> > > iHello.com:

> > > >

> > >

> > http://click./1/3555/4/_/4981/_/957456026/

> > > >

> > >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Good god people we all know that EMS People all have a wierd sence of humor. It

is not to be taken seriously . Read it all before you jump and become defensive.

We are all in the same profession some are better at than others. We are a rare

bred of Medics and we all do the same job, some of us make a primary job of it

to support our family and some do it on a vol base but remember why we do the

job that we do.( We do it to help the sick,dying, And injuried) so take this how

you please .

EMT-P, CCT