Re: big enzyme mistake I made

[Guest guest]

both the tropps and the kirkmans are high lipase(fat dissolving

enzymes) formulas and the trouble with this is that nerves and myelin

sheathing are also fatty tissue so i suspect that lipase enzymes

getting across a leaky gut may be attacking the myelin sheathing.

the houstonni enzymes are low lipase.............. there is a zyme

coming out without papian/bromelin.

as i have stated before i don't think the rice bran in the houstonni

enzymes is significant from an scd point of view but houstonni either

have legal verisons or they are due out very soon. www.houstonni.com

> My son Leo has been SCD since Dec, although we didn't do the intro

and early stages til right after Christmas. He was doing very well

on it in December, and after first starting the early stages, but

then suddenly the gains seemed to be lost. He was doing horribly at

school too; very aggressive. I was thinking it was the nuts, yogurt,

or perhaps a phenol problem. However, looking over my food journal,

I began to wonder if the enzymes were possibly a problem. Others had

had such success with them that I couldn't wait to try them. Leo had

already been on Kirkman's for a long time, while on the GF/CF diet

prior to SCD (although I never witnessed any improvements

attributable to those enzymes). So, when I recieved the Thropp's

enzymes, I disregarded the instruction to start with 1/3 capsule,

figuring it didn't apply since we had already been doing enzymes. I

gave him a whole enzyme for each meal and snack. Well, I decided to

try stopping the enzymes (after stopping yogurt, nut flours, honey,

and greatly reducing fruits). That very evening I got a call from

Thropp himself asking how the enzymes were working. He said I

should definitely NOT be giving a whole capsule each meal. The next

day, I reduced it to a third capsule -- Leo was a little better, but

still not up to par. I removed the enzymes completely and he is now

much better, again showing the greatly improved eye contact,

calmness, and conversational abilities we had seen when starting the

SCdiet.

>

> I also read that some can't use the Thropp's due to I think the

papaise or bromelaise or something, and maybe Leo is one of those. I

will probably test just a small amount of the Thropp's at a later

date. In the meantime, I will be looking forward to the Houstonni No-

phenol coming out. I understand they also have an enzyme without the

papaise/bromelase -- is that correct, and is that legal at this point?

>

> Thanks, I just don't want others to make the same mistake. I

really don't think any of the foods were causing the problems Leo was

having, although I will be re-introducing the things I removed very

gradually. I guess this another case where the diet alone would be

great, and sometimes supplements can obscure how great the diet is!

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[Guest guest]

Houston Nutraceuticals makes AFP Peptizyde and the website said there

will be a new version of H N-Zyme Prime that will not have papain or

bromelain in it.

The website said these will be available in February.

Jody

mom to -5.1 and -7.4

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if Pancreatic enzymes such as Creon-20 are safe?

Re: big enzyme mistake I made

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> both the tropps and the kirkmans are high lipase(fat dissolving

> enzymes) formulas and the trouble with this is that nerves and myelin

> sheathing are also fatty tissue so i suspect that lipase enzymes

> getting across a leaky gut may be attacking the myelin sheathing.

>

> the houstonni enzymes are low lipase.............. there is a zyme

> coming out without papian/bromelin.

>

> as i have stated before i don't think the rice bran in the houstonni

> enzymes is significant from an scd point of view but houstonni either

> have legal verisons or they are due out very soon. www.houstonni.com

>

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> > My son Leo has been SCD since Dec, although we didn't do the intro

> and early stages til right after Christmas. He was doing very well

> on it in December, and after first starting the early stages, but

> then suddenly the gains seemed to be lost. He was doing horribly at

> school too; very aggressive. I was thinking it was the nuts, yogurt,

> or perhaps a phenol problem. However, looking over my food journal,

> I began to wonder if the enzymes were possibly a problem. Others had

> had such success with them that I couldn't wait to try them. Leo had

> already been on Kirkman's for a long time, while on the GF/CF diet

> prior to SCD (although I never witnessed any improvements

> attributable to those enzymes). So, when I recieved the Thropp's

> enzymes, I disregarded the instruction to start with 1/3 capsule,

> figuring it didn't apply since we had already been doing enzymes. I

> gave him a whole enzyme for each meal and snack. Well, I decided to

> try stopping the enzymes (after stopping yogurt, nut flours, honey,

> and greatly reducing fruits). That very evening I got a call from

> Thropp himself asking how the enzymes were working. He said I

> should definitely NOT be giving a whole capsule each meal. The next

> day, I reduced it to a third capsule -- Leo was a little better, but

> still not up to par. I removed the enzymes completely and he is now

> much better, again showing the greatly improved eye contact,

> calmness, and conversational abilities we had seen when starting the

> SCdiet.

> >

> > I also read that some can't use the Thropp's due to I think the

> papaise or bromelaise or something, and maybe Leo is one of those. I

> will probably test just a small amount of the Thropp's at a later

> date. In the meantime, I will be looking forward to the Houstonni No-

> phenol coming out. I understand they also have an enzyme without the

> papaise/bromelase -- is that correct, and is that legal at this point?

> >

> > Thanks, I just don't want others to make the same mistake. I

> really don't think any of the foods were causing the problems Leo was

> having, although I will be re-introducing the things I removed very

> gradually. I guess this another case where the diet alone would be

> great, and sometimes supplements can obscure how great the diet is!

> >

> >

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