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I had been going and getting tests for everything but cortisol and told

coffee was OK as long as black. When I started using a lab in FL that was

the main office so ran them there, they said no, because the caffeine spikes

insulin and cortisol which in turn changes thyroid levels. I showed them the

thing from their papers that showed coffee was ok and told them that i had

been drinking coffe before I went. The lab tech two days in a row after that

days test ran tests with and then without coffee. My thyroid free t3 and tsh

were higher with coffee. How is that for strange. I mentioned this back then

on about.com. Many lab techs and a scientist agreed, they would never drink

coffee prior to testing. JMHO from seeing it.

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>Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

>To: <The_Thyroid_Support_Group >

>Subject: Re: -fasting question for tests

>Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:38:53 -0500

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>Yes, if HealthCheck says you can have the black coffee and water, then, as

>far as I'm concerned, we could have it. Just don't put any cream of sugar

>or anything else in it. The only thing that I was ever told (but not by

>them) about drinking water beforehand is that it can affect your chloride,

>but this one doesn't seem to be of major importance on testing. I just

>wouldn't be drinking a gallon of water throughout the 10 to 12 hrs, lol! I

>had a doctor one time tell me that I couldn't have so much as a sip of

>water or even ice chips the whole time, and I almost passed out in the

>office, before the blood tests! I won't go down THAT road again. I

>suspect that adrenals had something to do with that, though I didn't know

>it at the time, and the idiot didn't even test me for anything else, though

>I was complaining of feeling faint and almost choking to death with

>absolutely no water. Just no food, other drinks, or anything that would

>involve caloric intake. You would want the blood sugar to be fasting, but

>make sure you tell the lab that it IS fasting, of your own choice. Thyroid

>panels alone, are never fasting.

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> -fasting question for tests

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> I'm going to get the VIP Plus Profile II which includes the cholesterol

>tests. The paperwork I received simply said to fast 10-12 hours. On the

>site it said if a test says to fast you can have water and black coffee. I

>just want to make sure it is ok to have coffee. I don't want to screw up

>anything but I really would like to be able to have my coffee. Topper said

>you might know about this.

> Thanks.

> Shelli

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Actually makes good sense, come to think of it, because coffeee does

stimulate the adrenal glands and the cortex of the brain. I suppose that

would stimulate the hypothalamu, in turn stimulating the pituitary, in turn

stimulating the thyroid gland, BUT, what if the gland can't make any more

T3? What then? It would go to reason to me, if the gland can't make it,

then how could it be increased? The cortisol part makes perfect sense.

Makes me wonder, though, thyroid tests have always been nonfasting, so what

other foods could affect this cycle of happenings at testing time, or, for

that matter, any other time?

Re: -fasting question for tests

> I had been going and getting tests for everything but cortisol and told

> coffee was OK as long as black. When I started using a lab in FL that was

> the main office so ran them there, they said no, because the caffeine

spikes

> insulin and cortisol which in turn changes thyroid levels. I showed them

the

> thing from their papers that showed coffee was ok and told them that i had

> been drinking coffe before I went. The lab tech two days in a row after

that

> days test ran tests with and then without coffee. My thyroid free t3 and

tsh

> were higher with coffee. How is that for strange. I mentioned this back

then

> on about.com. Many lab techs and a scientist agreed, they would never

drink

> coffee prior to testing. JMHO from seeing it.

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Aha!

Guess what I'll be drinking the morning of my upcoming thyroid panel? ;)

blithe

> Actually makes good sense, come to think of it, because coffeee does

> stimulate the adrenal glands and the cortex of the brain. I suppose

that

> would stimulate the hypothalamu, in turn stimulating the pituitary,

in turn

> stimulating the thyroid gland, BUT, what if the gland can't make any

more

> T3? What then? It would go to reason to me, if the gland can't

make it,

> then how could it be increased? The cortisol part makes perfect sense.

> Makes me wonder, though, thyroid tests have always been nonfasting,

so what

> other foods could affect this cycle of happenings at testing time,

or, for

> that matter, any other time?

>

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