Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 The Gleason and PSA, is that from Feb? What has it done since? Have done any treatments since Feb 06? If not, why? If so, which ones? My $.02, with an attitude like that, find a new doc!! daivde > > my urologist tells me If I had treatment when diagnosed on feb 06 It > would not have helped. the radiation oncolgist says that he is > painting a dark picture and is being very pesomistic..I am sure I did > not spell that right ! gleason 8 psa 28.something ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 since feb of 06 no treatment at all no symptoms....no urinating at night nothing ! psa history since feb...207 25.8 25.3 28.0 thats the psa activity...the action taken since feb...diet..pomogranit juice 3 times a day,excersize, no red meat and organic chicken and wild fish. I am 43 and not willing to roll the dice on my Q.O.L.. Re: 43 year old guy The Gleason and PSA, is that from Feb? What has it done since?Have done any treatments since Feb 06?If not, why? If so, which ones?My $.02, with an attitude like that, find a new doc!!daivde>> my urologist tells me If I had treatment when diagnosed on feb 06 It> would not have helped. the radiation oncolgist says that he is> painting a dark picture and is being very pesomistic.. I am sure I did> not spell that right ! gleason 8 psa 28.something !>__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 With all due respect by doing nothing you really "have" rolled the dice. Mick Hicks wrote: since feb of 06 no treatment at all no symptoms....no urinating at night nothing ! psa history since feb...207 25.8 25.3 28.0 thats the psa activity...the action taken since feb...diet..pomogranit juice 3 times a day,excersize, no red meat and organic chicken and wild fish. I am 43 and not willing to roll the dice on my Q.O.L.. Re: 43 year old guy The Gleason and PSA, is that from Feb? What has it done since?Have done any treatments since Feb 06?If not, why? If so, which ones?My $.02, with an attitude like that, find a new doc!!daivde>> my urologist tells me If I had treatment when diagnosed on feb 06 It> would not have helped. the radiation oncolgist says that he is> painting a dark picture and is being very pesomistic.. I am sure I did> not spell that right ! gleason 8 psa 28.something !>__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I agree with Mick – though your number is somewhat stable, it’s still high. With that much PSA circulating in your bloodstream, It’s likely doing harm and possibly creating other complications. Emerson www.flhw.org From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Mick Northrop Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:43 PM To: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: Re: Re: 43 year old guy With all due respect by doing nothing you really " have " rolled the dice. Mick Hicks <allstar003> wrote: since feb of 06 no treatment at all no symptoms....no urinating at night nothing ! psa history since feb...207 25.8 25.3 28.0 thats the psa activity...the action taken since feb...diet..pomogranit juice 3 times a day,excersize, no red meat and organic chicken and wild fish. I am 43 and not willing to roll the dice on my Q.O.L.. Re: 43 year old guy The Gleason and PSA, is that from Feb? What has it done since? Have done any treatments since Feb 06? If not, why? If so, which ones? My $.02, with an attitude like that, find a new doc!! daivde > > my urologist tells me If I had treatment when diagnosed on feb 06 It > would not have helped. the radiation oncolgist says that he is > painting a dark picture and is being very pesomistic.. I am sure I did > not spell that right ! gleason 8 psa 28.something ! > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Q.O.L. is good after Proton Treatment. So far, 1 month later after treatment, all systems are a go. Dan --- Hicks wrote: > since feb of 06 no treatment at all no > symptoms....no urinating at night nothing ! psa > history since feb...207 25.8 25.3 28.0 thats the psa > activity...the action taken since > feb...diet..pomogranit juice 3 times a > day,excersize, no red meat and organic chicken and > wild fish. I am 43 and not willing to roll the dice > on my Q.O.L.. > > > Re: 43 year old guy > > The Gleason and PSA, is that from Feb? What has it > done since? > > Have done any treatments since Feb 06? > > If not, why? If so, which ones? > > My $.02, with an attitude like that, find a new > doc!! > > daivde > > > > > > my urologist tells me If I had treatment when > diagnosed on feb 06 It > > would not have helped. the radiation oncolgist > says that he is > > painting a dark picture and is being very > pesomistic.. I am sure I did > > not spell that right ! gleason 8 psa 28.something > ! > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 My point was really that once you are diagnosed with PCa every decision from then on is a roll of the dice and one we have to live with. I didn't make my comment to cause debate on 's decision, because his decision is his decision and I respect it even though I don't understand it. I do however feel it is important that newcomers realize that "watchful waiting" is a choice or a roll of the dice just like any treatment and should be considered very carefully. Mick Emerson wrote: I agree with Mick – though your number is somewhat stable, it’s still high. With that much PSA circulating in your bloodstream, It’s likely doing harm and possibly creating other complications. Emerson www.flhw.org From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of Mick NorthropSent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:43 PMTo: ProstateCancerSupport Subject: Re: Re: 43 year old guy With all due respect by doing nothing you really "have" rolled the dice. Mick Hicks <allstar003> wrote: since feb of 06 no treatment at all no symptoms....no urinating at night nothing ! psa history since feb...207 25.8 25.3 28.0 thats the psa activity...the action taken since feb...diet..pomogranit juice 3 times a day,excersize, no red meat and organic chicken and wild fish. I am 43 and not willing to roll the dice on my Q.O.L.. Re: 43 year old guy The Gleason and PSA, is that from Feb? What has it done since?Have done any treatments since Feb 06?If not, why? If so, which ones?My $.02, with an attitude like that, find a new doc!!daivde>> my urologist tells me If I had treatment when diagnosed on feb 06 It> would not have helped. the radiation oncolgist says that he is> painting a dark picture and is being very pesomistic.. I am sure I did> not spell that right ! gleason 8 psa 28.something !> __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 As a newcomer and obviously knowing only what I have read I oseek opinons and info fromt those who have more insight and experience than I. What is it the you dont understand about my decsion ? [ProstateCancerSupp ort] Re: 43 year old guy The Gleason and PSA, is that from Feb? What has it done since?Have done any treatments since Feb 06?If not, why? If so, which ones?My $.02, with an attitude like that, find a new doc!!daivde>> my urologist tells me If I had treatment when diagnosed on feb 06 It> would not have helped. the radiation oncolgist says that he is> painting a dark picture and is being very pesomistic.. I am sure I did> not spell that right ! gleason 8 psa 28.something !> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 > > Well guys > still feeling great,new girfriend and feeling exceelent with no > treatment or sypmtoms.stats ? 43 gleason 8 psa 25.7 i am now a vegan > and energy levels great all body parts working like a 17 year old kid. > I had an mri which showed nothing at this time. the urologist and > radiation oncologist say get imediate treatment but the prostate > oncologist (ceders saini) Los angels says no harm in waiting. life > continues and so do I. The next day is not promised so i will take a > healthy today over a maybe tomorrow. all feedback accepetd good bad or > whatever. have a nice day all...unless you have other plans. > Hi Again: Almost a year ago I was in pretty much the same boat. 51 years old very active, performance cycling, scuba diving, hiking etc. I was diagnosed with a psa of 18 gleason 9. Had ALL the tests and it was found to have escaped a wee bit. Surgery was a poor option. Poor chance of getting it all and guaranteed impotence. So I did the hormone, radiation thing. Started Zolodex in July, had hdr brachytherapy in late October and just finished imrt radiation yesterday. HOPEFULLY " fixed " . Only time will tell now. As for degradation of quality of life? NONE!!!! The hormones definitely shoot your libido down a bit. In my case not totally. Sex isn't quite as enjoyable, but that's a temporary thing. No side effects from the brachytherapy except a bit of a sore bottom for a couple of days. I just finished the external radiation with no ill effects except for a bit of constipation which is easily dealt with.I didn't miss a day of work except when I went to the hospital for the hdr. Now, fingers and toes crossed, I am done! Need to have the psa closely monitored, stay on the Zolodex for a while then that should be it. Move on and hopefully die from old age. My point is, treatment will not necessarily put a big (or any) dent in your 'qol " . If it does it's usually temporary. You deal with it and move on. In my case there was consensus among the team of doctors I worked with,that left untreated I could look forward to taking the old dirt nap not too far down the road.Not an option I would consider Cheers e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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