Re: Dr. Shaw says no Vineger

[Guest guest]

I don't think Dr. Shaw has anything about the SCD in his book.... I've loaned

out my copy so can't check it, but I'm fairly certain about that. So, his

approach to yeast control or gut healing is really from a different slant. This

diet is completely different from any other yeast diet or dietary intervention

for autism or gut disorders that you might have tried or read about before. It's

almost a totally different premise. You have to decide which diet you want to

follow......... it's really difficult to combine different

philosophies/approaches. Of course, any food that an individual child can't

tolerate or is severely allergic to is not included in the diet for that

particular child. You certainly don't have to use vinegar...... my daughter

has been on SCD for over 8 months and I have never given her vinegar..... not

for any particular reason..... I wasn't conciously avoiding it, I just haven't

ever used it. I keep her diet pretty simple.

Patti, mom to Katera, age 7

Dr. Shaw says no Vineger

I've been reading Dr. Shaw's book, " Biological Treatments for Autism

and PDD " . He talks in great depth about the yeast issues associated

with autism. He claims that vineger of all kinds should not be

consumed because it is a femented food and as such, will cause the

yeast to colonize more easily.

I'm curious if any one can comment on this since vineger is legal on

the SCD. I have stopped using it for the time being. Thanks.

a

[Guest guest]

> I've been reading Dr. Shaw's book, " Biological Treatments for

Autism

> and PDD " . He talks in great depth about the yeast issues

associated

> with autism. He claims that vineger of all kinds should not be

> consumed because it is a femented food and as such, will cause the

> yeast to colonize more easily.

>

> I'm curious if any one can comment on this since vineger is legal

on

> the SCD.

I feel that his statement is in the same ballpark as 'no mushrooms

while attacking candida, no camembert while cleaning the gut'. Simply

missing the point. I have great respect for his work, have read the

book, but felt that he could not give definite answers about WHAT TO

DO with all these g.i. issues, except giving Nystatin forever and

cutting out table sugar.

Shaw has done important research, but underestimates the power of

giving the right kind of food. Lots of fermented foods fall into that

category (e.g. Kimchi). Read the label on the vinegar though.

Marjan

The Netherlands

mom to Nick, 7, scd since january 18 2003

[Guest guest]

unpasturised vinegar may be a problem for some but apple cider

vinegar is a 'vermont folk medicine' remedy......... maybe as a sort

of yeast probiotic in part...........but the other side is being a

source of yeats spores.

interestingly vermont folk medicine is also very hot on iodine which

many parents here would do to pay more attention to.

my page on iodine

http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/compendium/iodine.html

> I've been reading Dr. Shaw's book, " Biological Treatments for

Autism

> and PDD " . He talks in great depth about the yeast issues

associated

> with autism. He claims that vineger of all kinds should not be

> consumed because it is a femented food and as such, will cause the

> yeast to colonize more easily.

>

> I'm curious if any one can comment on this since vineger is legal

on

> the SCD. I have stopped using it for the time being. Thanks.

>

> a

[Guest guest]

> I've been reading Dr. Shaw's book, " Biological Treatments for Autism

> and PDD " . He talks in great depth about the yeast issues associated

> with autism. He claims that vineger of all kinds should not be

> consumed because it is a femented food and as such, will cause the

> yeast to colonize more easily.

>

> I'm curious if any one can comment on this since vineger is legal on

> the SCD. I have stopped using it for the time being. Thanks.

>

> a

If you've been reading BTVC, Elaine reminds us:

" Vinegar is legal provided it is not like rice vinegar with added sugar, etc.

Wine vinegar, white vinegar and even apple cider vinegar provided it does

not have a lot of sediment in it (mother in vinegar terms).

Balsamic is OK if it is the real thing but most are imitations and have

added illegals. "

[Guest guest]

a, a lot of the " no yeast " diets say no vinegars of any sort. We mostly

use apple cider vinegar here. Apple cider vinegar has malic acid in it which is

actually said to have anti-fungal properties. Check out this link

http://www.iknowthecause.com/modules.php?op=modload & name=News & file=article & sid=9\

1 If you were worried but wanted to use some vinegar, just try the apple cider

vinegar.

Take care,

steph o.

mom to ben 6.5 yo pdd/adhd

scd 16 mos

Subject: Dr. Shaw says no Vineger