Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Dear Derrick Well I am sorry of course to hear that you have reached this point with your IGAN, but it sounds as though you were expecting it. Nevertheless, this is not a nice thing to have happen, however much it looked as though it was on the cards. Know that I wish you lots of luck with the surgery whenever it takes place, and know also that you will have the support of the group along your journey. I hope that once you start dialysis you start to feel much better. Thinking of you. Best wishes Fistula Pierre and group, As I predicted, I saw my neph this afternoon, he looked at my lab results and said " I think it is time to do a fistula, I would like it done before Christmas if possible " so there we are, I have finally made it. Strange thing, he did not ask if I would like HD or PD, guess he assumed HD. Having seen your experience, Pierre, I think I can handle that. I see the vein Surgeon next week to make arrangements. Derrick Sydney, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Tee hee Frances you are a card...agree with Derrick, your sense of humour is fab and a tonic. Re: Fistula Francis, I hope not, I want him to concentrate on the job in hand! Good to see you still have your sense of humour in spite of all your trials and tribulations. Derrick Sydney, Australia > Derrick, > > I love the idea of having a vein surgeon. Does he keep looking in the > mirror! > > Frances > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Frances, You're a hoot! Connie, USA Re: Fistula Derrick, I love the idea of having a vein surgeon. Does he keep looking in the mirror! Frances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Derrick, Sorry to hear you're soon going another step closer, but I really do think it's a good thing to be having the fistula surgery soon. Because it takes so long for a fistula to mature, I felt it was reassuring after I had it, and I just hoped it would be long enough until dialysis was needed so that the fistula would be good and ready (which is how it turned out - I started hemo 6 months after the fistula surgery). I don't think I ever once heard my pre-esrd nephrologist mention PD herself - only hemo and transplant. I only heard it from other members of the renal team. The social worker was really the only one who seemed to encourage PD. Maybe in your case, as in mine, there was an " assumed " reason for hemo ultimately being the choice (I mean a medical reason), but one that was never really stated to you. I get the feeling that you would have chosen hemo anyway, but if not, you could always ask. It should be your decision. Some nephrologists do have their own preference, and they do exert a lot of influence on patients' ultimate choice, I think. Keep in mind that if there are no medical contraindications, the choice of hemo vs PD is not written in stone. Many would say it's not a bad idea to have a working fistula regardless - there is if it's needed, sort of thing. Pierre Fistula Pierre and group, As I predicted, I saw my neph this afternoon, he looked at my lab results and said " I think it is time to do a fistula, I would like it done before Christmas if possible " so there we are, I have finally made it. Strange thing, he did not ask if I would like HD or PD, guess he assumed HD. Having seen your experience, Pierre, I think I can handle that. I see the vein Surgeon next week to make arrangements. Derrick Sydney, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Derrick, Please let me know the surgery date as soon as you get it so I can pray all goes well during the time you are in surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 , I am as mentally prepared as I can be having walked through it with Pierre, I can't wait to get it over with now. I see the conceited Surgeon for assessment or what ever they do next Tuesday prior to making arrangements for surgery. Derrick Sydney Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Pierre, I am as prepared mentally as I can be thanks to you and the group. I just can't wait to get it finalised and over and done with now which is a far cry from where I was 9 months ago! I see the conceited (Frances's joke) Surgeon next Tuesday arvo to make arrangements. The sooner the better. Derrick Sydney, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 , I will sure do that, we need all the help we can get! Derrick Sydney, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 That's how it was done for me, Derrick. An appointment with the vascular surgeon first, so that he/she can evaluate your veins and decide where to put it... and then the actual surgery. In my case, that came about 3 weeks after the consultation. Pierre P.S. These decisions apparently aren't too firm, because once I was on the operating table, the surgeon decided to make the vein-artery connection at the elbow instead of at the wrist. Re: Fistula > , > I am as mentally prepared as I can be having walked through > it with Pierre, I can't wait to get it over with now. I see the > conceited Surgeon for assessment or what ever they do next Tuesday > prior to making arrangements for surgery. > > Derrick > Sydney Australia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2002 Report Share Posted November 26, 2002 Derrick, That pretty much sums up how I felt at the time. I was glad to have it under my belt. There really isn't much to it you know. If my experience helped you in any way, all I can say is that I'm honoured that I could be of assistance to such a fine gentleman as yourself. Pierre Re: Fistula > Pierre, > I am as prepared mentally as I can be thanks to you and the > group. I just can't wait to get it finalised and over and done with > now which is a far cry from where I was 9 months ago! I see the > conceited (Frances's joke) Surgeon next Tuesday arvo to make > arrangements. The sooner the better. > > Derrick > Sydney, Australia > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 Pierre, Vascular surgeon? I would like to commend the person who used it because I like vein surgeon better. It is more descriptive. :-) Re: Fistula > , > I am as mentally prepared as I can be having walked through > it with Pierre, I can't wait to get it over with now. I see the > conceited Surgeon for assessment or what ever they do next Tuesday > prior to making arrangements for surgery. > > Derrick > Sydney Australia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 Well, technically, they deal with both arteries and veins, so a " vein surgeon " would only be able to do half the job : ) Pierre Re: Fistula > Pierre, > > Vascular surgeon? I would like to commend the person who used it because I like vein surgeon better. It is more descriptive. :-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 " NOTHING " gets by Pierre! Connie, USA Re: Fistula Well, technically, they deal with both arteries and veins, so a " vein surgeon " would only be able to do half the job : ) Pierre Re: Fistula > Pierre, > > Vascular surgeon? I would like to commend the person who used it because I like vein surgeon better. It is more descriptive. :-) > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 Derrick, You've received such positive encouragement and support, as you have given to others in the past. We will be thinking about you as you travel through this new venue and into your new life style. Good luck with your surgery, I hope that this doesn't interfere to much with your Holiday season. I sure hope that you feel better very soon. Connie, USA Fistula Pierre and group, As I predicted, I saw my neph this afternoon, he looked at my lab results and said " I think it is time to do a fistula, I would like it done before Christmas if possible " so there we are, I have finally made it. Strange thing, he did not ask if I would like HD or PD, guess he assumed HD. Having seen your experience, Pierre, I think I can handle that. I see the vein Surgeon next week to make arrangements. Derrick Sydney, Australia To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 Connie, Yes, the anticipation is almost exciting, but not quite. I would like to get it over before Christmas if I can, I suppose it depends on how busy the surgeon is. The strange this is Connie, I do not feel bad at all, I am ticking along OK at present. Derrick Sydney, Australia > Derrick, You've received such positive encouragement and support, as you > have given to others in the past. We will be thinking about you as you > travel through this new venue and into your new life style. Good luck with > your surgery, I hope that this doesn't interfere to much with your Holiday > season. I sure hope that you feel better very soon. Connie, USA > > Fistula > > > Pierre and group, > As I predicted, I saw my neph this afternoon, he > looked at my lab results and said " I think it is time to do a > fistula, I would like it done before Christmas if possible " so there > we are, I have finally made it. Strange thing, he did not ask if I > would like HD or PD, guess he assumed HD. Having seen your > experience, Pierre, I think I can handle that. I see the vein Surgeon > next week to make arrangements. > > Derrick > Sydney, Australia > > > > To edit your settings for the group, go to our Yahoo Group > home page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/ > Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 , You cannot escape the inevitable, I have been preparing myself for this for quite some time now, I think it would almost be an anticlimax if it didn't happen. Derrick Sydney, Australia > Derrick > I'm so sorry that you are having to have the fistula put in. I know that it is one of those things that most of here are going to have to face one day, but it still comes as a shock when the time comes. I will keep you in my prayers. Good luck with the surgery and I hope when the time comes when you have to make use of it that you will feel 1000% better. Please let all of know how you are doing! > > > Fistula > > > Pierre and group, > As I predicted, I saw my neph this afternoon, he > looked at my lab results and said " I think it is time to do a > fistula, I would like it done before Christmas if possible " so there > we are, I have finally made it. Strange thing, he did not ask if I > would like HD or PD, guess he assumed HD. Having seen your > experience, Pierre, I think I can handle that. I see the vein Surgeon > next week to make arrangements. > > Derrick > Sydney, Australia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Pierre, Jennie, and group, I saw the vein surgeon today. As you predicted, Pierre, not much to it. He examined my arms, decided which vein to use and signed me up for an op on 17 December. That took 15 mins and cost $120. Thanks for your prayers, , good to have re inforcement at a time like this. Thanks for your concern too, Jennie, being in the medical profession you would have an idea of what is involved although Melbourne is another world away! Derrick Sydney, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Thanks, Derrick. Well, yes, I must say that we've had a few patients on my ward who have had fistulas put in. They've all come through it just fine, so I hope it gives you a bit of reassurance. All the best for the 17th. Let us know how it goes. Derrick Hartley & lt;dhartle3@... & gt; wrote: Pierre, Jennie, and group, I saw the vein surgeon today. As you predicted, Pierre, not much to it. He examined my arms, decided which vein to use and signed me up for an op on 17 December. That took 15 mins and cost $120. Thanks for your prayers, , good to have re inforcement at a time like this. Thanks for your concern too, Jennie, being in the medical profession you would have an idea of what is involved although Melbourne is another world away! Derrick Sydney, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Jennie, Will do. You must be on night shift. I can't sleep so I thought I would scan the web. Derrick Sydney, Australia Pierre, Jennie, and group, > I saw the vein surgeon today. As you > predicted, Pierre, not much to it. He examined my arms, decided which > vein to use and signed me up for an op on 17 December. That took 15 > mins and cost $120. Thanks for your prayers, , good to have re > inforcement at a time like this. Thanks for your concern too, Jennie, > being in the medical profession you would have an idea of what is > involved although Melbourne is another world away! > > Derrick > Sydney, Australia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Hi Derrick, My apologies for the delay in writing, I have just caught up on my emails. It's not nice spending so much money on specialists, and I bet the gap is nearly 50%. And you pay the full fee just because, you could have been in there for 5 minutes for all you know, and still paid the full initial fee. I have entered it into my calendar to remember your surgery for Dec 17, it will be fine, no need for luck. Enjoy the deep sleep, that is if you get knocked out completely for it? Hey everyone, talking about paying, do you pay everytime you see your Neph? I have heard some people see their Neph on Medicare. I pay $85AUD each time, and get back less than half. Leonie (Sydney, Australia) Fistula Pierre, Jennie, and group, I saw the vein surgeon today. As you predicted, Pierre, not much to it. He examined my arms, decided which vein to use and signed me up for an op on 17 December. That took 15 mins and cost $120. Thanks for your prayers, , good to have re inforcement at a time like this. Thanks for your concern too, Jennie, being in the medical profession you would have an idea of what is involved although Melbourne is another world away! Derrick Sydney, Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Leonie, Yes it is about the same for me, $85 per visit with about 50% rebate from Medicare. You are between a rock and a hard place, I look at it from the point of view that you need the best so you have to pay. Derrick Sydney, Australia > Hi Derrick, > > My apologies for the delay in writing, I have just caught up on my > emails. > It's not nice spending so much money on specialists, and I bet the gap > is nearly 50%. > And you pay the full fee just because, you could have been in there for > 5 minutes for all you know, and still paid the full initial fee. > I have entered it into my calendar to remember your surgery for Dec 17, > it will be fine, no need for luck. Enjoy the deep sleep, that is if you > get knocked out completely for it? > > Hey everyone, talking about paying, do you pay everytime you see your > Neph? > I have heard some people see their Neph on Medicare. I pay $85AUD each > time, and get back less than half. > > Leonie (Sydney, Australia) > > Fistula > > Pierre, Jennie, and group, > I saw the vein surgeon today. As you > predicted, Pierre, not much to it. He examined my arms, decided which > vein to use and signed me up for an op on 17 December. That took 15 > mins and cost $120. Thanks for your prayers, , good to have re > inforcement at a time like this. Thanks for your concern too, Jennie, > being in the medical profession you would have an idea of what is > involved although Melbourne is another world away! > > Derrick > Sydney, Australia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 When I went for that consultation, I was first seen by a pretty vascular nurse who said I had nice veins, I was very happy about that : ) $120 eh? Better start saving your pennies for the post-surgery follow-up appointment : ) I've never had to pay a single penny here, for anything. Well, it's 4 PM here, so, I'm off to dialysis. Pierre Fistula > Pierre, Jennie, and group, > I saw the vein surgeon today. As you > predicted, Pierre, not much to it. He examined my arms, decided which > vein to use and signed me up for an op on 17 December. That took 15 > mins and cost $120. Thanks for your prayers, , good to have re > inforcement at a time like this. Thanks for your concern too, Jennie, > being in the medical profession you would have an idea of what is > involved although Melbourne is another world away! > > Derrick > Sydney, Australia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 Frances, I knew you wouldn't be able to resist that one. Talking about the weather, it is snowing in the Snowy Mountains south of Sydney, the temperature in Sydney has dropped, but that doesn't help the bushfires, they are raging because of the high winds. I think the whole world has gone mad 'cept thee and me and I have mi doubts about thee. Derrick Sydney Australia > , > > My house is full of the stuff (wind that is) contributed to by the dog and my > husband! > > Take care, > > Frances > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 , You sure are a wit! In the South East of England where I live we have snow forecast for this weekend, but judging by the sky, it looks like it could be here today. Strange, because yesterday I didn't wear a coat down the beach whilst walking the dog, yet today its freezing. Perhaps the world has in fact gone schizophrenic! Incidentally I hear the set of Home and Away copped it in the fire. Well, they say some good always comes out of bad! Keep doing that rain dance, Frances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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