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Hi Terry,

I should have given more details in my new member registration,

I have already received treatment which was IMRT about 15 months

ago. Last PSA was 1.5, next one due in January. The PSA was

3.6 before treatment,biopsy Gleason 6, stage T1c I believe. I

am 50 years old.

Anyway, things are going pretty well so far. My only complaint

is a little rectal bleeding which I did not expect. But it seems

to be getting better( I hope).

Happy New Year to all,

>

> Welcome to circlek2 circlek2@... who has joined the

> ProstateCancerSupport group and says:

>

>

>

> I am a prostate cancer patient and am interested in learning about

others

> experiences with treatments and side effects...

>

>

>

> Sorry to hear of your diagnosis but welcome to the club you never

wanted to

> join. No doubt you're in a bit of a state of shock, and perhaps

feeling

> isolated. You'll find plenty of friendly folk on this List who

will do what

> they can to help you through.

>

>

>

> You might find it useful to visit YANA - You Are Not Alone Now

> www.yananow.net <http://www.yananow.net/> a site set up for newly

diagnosed

> people. The first section gives some basic information in plain

language

> with links to more complex and technical sites. The second section

of the

> site is where men are invited to tell their prostate cancer

stories and how

> they arrived at their decisions regarding treatment. Many people

have mailed

> to say how useful they have found this, especially because most of

the men

> are happy to respond to specific questions. The section of the

site can be

> found by clicking the link labelled Experiences or going to

> http://www.yananow.net/Experiences.html

>

>

>

> But in any event, please post some details of your diagnosis -

your Age,

> your PSAs leading up to the diagnosis, your Gleason Score and

Staging (these

> terms are all explained on the YANA site) and any questions you

might have.

> Just remember - there are no dumb questions. We all started off

where you

> are now, but we've collectively learned a lot over the years.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> All the best

>

>

>

> Terry Herbert

>

> in Melbourne Australia

>

> Diagnosed '96: Age 54: Stage T2b: PSA 7.2: Gleason 3+3=6: No

treatment. June

> '04: TURP. Nov '06 PSA 31.4

>

> My site is at www.prostatecancerwatchfulwaiting.co.za

>

> It is a tragedy of the world that no one knows what he doesn't

know, and the

> less a man knows, the more sure he is that he knows everything.

Joyce

> Carey

>

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G’day ,

I was a bit busy yesterday and I’m

not sure if anyone addressed your specific questions. I’ll provide my 2

cents worth in case no one else has – my comments below preceded by **TH

<snip> 1. Is it usual practice for a

Physicians Assistant to perform the biopsy. <snip> **TH I’ve

only had two biopsy procedures. Both times they were performed by qualified

doctors. Although the incidence of bad side effects from biopsy is reportedly

low, I would personally prefer to have the procedure done by the best qualified

person.

<snip> Also, the doctor's office is

telling me that I have to come in two separate times...the first for just an

ultrasound and the second for the actual biopsy. Otherwise the insurance

company will not pay for it. <snip> **TH I don’t see any

necessity for this double dip, but there is no harm done either, apart from the

waste of your time, but then our time doesn’t usually come into the

equation as far as the medical world is concerned.

<snip> 2. Should the free PSA be

taken before doing the biopsy? <snip> **TH Yes, in my opinion. The free

PSA is part of the diagnostic procedure (or should be) and indicates the probability

of an elevated PSA being associated with PCa or some other cause. The whle idea

of having a free PSA test is to establish whether it is worthwhile having a

biopsy and to avoid unnecessary biopsy.

<snip> My doctor says that the free

PSA test should be done instead of a second biopsy (6 months later) if the

first biopsy is good. <snip> **TH I cannot understand this line of

thinking at all. It makes no sense to me from what I have learned.

<snip> 3. Also, I was reading about

a doctor at Northwestern

University who does a Pro

PSA test and says this is more reliable? <snip> **TH I always think I am

pretty well up with new developments, but I must confess I had never heard the

expression pro-PSA prior to your posting, so thanks for that (anyone else

interested might like to read this: http://www.drcatalona.com/quest/quest_fall03_1.asp

) I see that it is a further enhancement of the free PSA test and has been developed

by Dr Catalona and his team. What he says makes sense to me as an additional

test to be taken in the decision making process prior to biopsy.

<snip> 4. Also, should a radiologist

read the ultrasound? I asked my doctor about this and he said he reads it. <snip>

**TH One bit of advice given me (by a radiologist admittedly) was that

most of the equipment in doctors rooms is either outdated or inefficient so

that the scans are poor quality. Add to that the lack of expertise on the part

of the doctor and the way to go for any scans (or any other procedure for that

matter) is to get the person best qualified with the best equipment to do the

work!

Hope this helps some. I must say that if I

were in your position I’d be considering looking for a doctor who may

have a greater interest in PCa than your guy seems to have.

All the best

Terry

From: ProstateCancerSupport

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On Behalf Of herestoyou2007

Sent: Thursday, 4 January 2007 8:38 AM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject: New member

I am 54 years old and have had prostatitis about 6 or

7 years ago. I

also ride my bicycle over 4000 miles a year which I have read may

cause inflammation? About 2 months ago I was experiencing similar

symptoms and went to general physician. He prescribed antibiotic

(Factiv). Went back in two weeks and he did DRE and prescribed Bactrim

for approx two weeks. Went back and he ordered a PSA. It came out at

7.7. I continued to take Bactrim and went to a urologist approx. two

weeks later. He did another PSA which came in at 7.6. He also did a

DRE. He wants a biopsy and this is the point at which I have

questions. I have done some research and have these concerns.

1. Is it usual practice for a Physicians Assistant to perform the

biopsy. Also, the doctor's office is telling me that I have to come in

two separate times...the first for just an ultrasound and the second

for the actual biopsy. Otherwise the insurance company will not pay

for it.

2. Should the free PSA be taken before doing the biopsy? My doctor

says that the free PSA test should be done instead of a second biopsy

(6 months later) if the first biopsy is good.

3. Also, I was reading about a doctor at Northwestern University

who

does a Pro PSA test and says this is more reliable?

4. Also, should a radiologist read the ultrasound? I asked my doctor

about this and he said he reads it.

Any info is greatly appreciated.

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Since you have so many questions you might

want to go for a second opinion with another urologist.

Kathy

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ProstateCancerSupport

[mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of herestoyou2007

Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007

4:38 PM

To:

ProstateCancerSupport

Subject:

New member

I am 54 years old and have had prostatitis about 6 or

7 years ago. I

also ride my bicycle over 4000 miles a year which I have read may

cause inflammation? About 2 months ago I was experiencing similar

symptoms and went to general physician. He prescribed antibiotic

(Factiv). Went back in two weeks and he did DRE and prescribed Bactrim

for approx two weeks. Went back and he ordered a PSA. It came out at

7.7. I continued to take Bactrim and went to a urologist approx. two

weeks later. He did another PSA which came in at 7.6. He also did a

DRE. He wants a biopsy and this is the point at which I have

questions. I have done some research and have these concerns.

1. Is it usual practice for a Physicians Assistant to perform the

biopsy. Also, the doctor's office is telling me that I have to come in

two separate times...the first for just an ultrasound and the second

for the actual biopsy. Otherwise the insurance company will not pay

for it.

2. Should the free PSA be taken before doing the biopsy? My doctor

says that the free PSA test should be done instead of a second biopsy

(6 months later) if the first biopsy is good.

3. Also, I was reading about a doctor at Northwestern University

who

does a Pro PSA test and says this is more reliable?

4. Also, should a radiologist read the ultrasound? I asked my doctor

about this and he said he reads it.

Any info is greatly appreciated.

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My biggest symptom now is the fatigue. And going to college isn't

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Hello,

I came across this group in search for answers to my own mysterious

problems. First of all, about 15+ years ago I wasn't feeling well and

was found to have a very high viral titer to Epstein Barr Virus

which at the time caused a severe chronic fatiuge.

Since then I went on to develop Grave's disease ( an autoimmune

disease) and was treated with the maximum dosage of radiotherapy to

destroy my thyroid gland, now I have to repy completely on thryoid

replace homones but still have problems wtih this autoimmunity. My

ANA is high, I am seeing a neurologist for muscle weakness,

especially in my legs. I can not stand in line as my legs become too

weak.

I used to be able to play the piano and sing in church but I can not

do that any more. I can't stand on the stage to sing as my balance is

off and my legs become too weak, the last time I tried I had to hold

onto something for balance and to keep my legs from giving way.

I attended church last Sunday night, my Dad is music director and I

sit with him on the front row, well I was scared almost to death as I

felt so dizzy that I felt like I was going to pass out and then I

couldn't walk to the back of the church to leave as I was too dizzy,

I finally told my Dad that I had vertigo and would have to leave, he

asked if I could wait for a few moments that the service was almost

over and it seemed like forever but I made it, after church was over

though, I stood up slowly and told my Dad that I needed to walk along

the wall and not the center isle to get outdoors and he offered to go

wtih me, he lead me outside and I couldn't even make it to my car, so

he walked me to his car and drove me home, then went back for my car.

The point is, I could hardly walk across the parking lot and when i

got to his car, it was all I could do was to stand there.

I have had this dizziness for over a month now, really bad. I know

there are a lot of things that can cause dizziness but for this long?

I do have pressure it seems, in my ears and allergies it seems but I

have never had it this bad. I don't know what is causing the

dizziness.

I know that when I stand in line that I can not stand there for only

a few moments and then I have to go to my car and rest, then go back

in and try my best to finsh my transaction, it is embarrassing but

when I also have a difficult time when it gets really bad of moving

my hands fast enough to get my money out and coordinating myself.

My neurologists wants me to have a muscle biopsy but I haven't had

that as of yet. I did have EMG of my arms and it shows capel tunnel.

My primary complaint is muscle weakness and dizziness when I see my

neruo.

A few years ago I had an MRI of the head, ( I had 2 or 3 which were

normal at the time).

I have a family history of autoimmune disease and I know that MS may

be connected in some way.

can someone please enlighten me as to whether or not this sounds like

MS? I am not looking to have another autoimmune disease, I just need

to know somehow what in the world is going on and who knows I have

also thought that it may be due to my Graves disease but I don't know

of people who are having these kind of problems with it although I

know when you don't have enough thyroid hormone in your body it can

cause leg weakness but still, I have suspected something underneath

causing all of these strange sypmtoms.

I have a list of sypmtoms over the years but the ones that concern me

the most now are, loss of balance, unable to stand or walk very far

as my legs are weak, dizziness ( severe) extreme fatigue, even after

resting. I am unable to work.

Thank you for your patience, I know this way long.

God bless all,

Vicky

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