Re: Please comment on this article! . . . One would think...

[Guest guest]

i regret getting silicone. i would not have got sick if i got saline.

now i may never have my brain back.

[Guest guest]

I agree with Lynda,

I had double bilumen, saline filled inside silicone shell. I was amnd

still am very sick. The chemicals that are sued to make the implants

are known carcinognes, neurotoxins, 37 different toxic chemicals that

were designed to be a pesticide!! They make you sick period. Just my

opinion.

Terri P

>

> >According to Dr. Kolb, not necessarily. She felt I would likely

not react

> >if I chose to implant with saline implants, if she did the

surgery. She

> >would not implant me with silicone because of the great risk of

reaction.

> >She felt most patients who react to saline implants react to a

leak or

> >bacterial infection from surgery -- both of which necessitate

explantation.

> >It is less frequently a reaction to the silicone shell with a

saline

> >implant.

> >

> >Kenda

> >

> > >

> > > QUESTION TO ALL:

> > >

> > > IF YOU GOT IMPLANTS AND JUST REJECTED SILICONE IMPLANTS, DO YOU

> > THINK IF YOU

> > > WOULD HAVE ALSO REJECTED SALINE IMPLANTS THE SAME WAY????

> > > THIS WAS A QUESTION I WAS ASKED AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE

ON THE SAME

> > > PAGE? THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

-Oh I forgot to mention again when they removed my residule capsule

there was blue nodules and free floating silicone in my supposed

saline implants. Don't forget about mold, fungus, bacteria

Terri P

-- In , Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

> I have to disagree with the fact that patients are reacting to a

leak

> in a saline implant. Many react immediately to the foreign object,

> many react to the silicone in the shell and show silicone

> sensitivity. The fact that Dr. Kolb has saline implants sometimes

> makes her a bit biased, I think.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 06:49 PM 2/5/2007, you wrote:

>

> >According to Dr. Kolb, not necessarily. She felt I would likely

not react

> >if I chose to implant with saline implants, if she did the

surgery. She

> >would not implant me with silicone because of the great risk of

reaction.

> >She felt most patients who react to saline implants react to a

leak or

> >bacterial infection from surgery -- both of which necessitate

explantation.

> >It is less frequently a reaction to the silicone shell with a

saline

> >implant.

> >

> >Kenda

> >

> > >

> > > QUESTION TO ALL:

> > >

> > > IF YOU GOT IMPLANTS AND JUST REJECTED SILICONE IMPLANTS, DO YOU

> > THINK IF YOU

> > > WOULD HAVE ALSO REJECTED SALINE IMPLANTS THE SAME WAY????

> > > THIS WAS A QUESTION I WAS ASKED AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE

ON THE SAME

> > > PAGE? THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I had saline and I think I reacted to the silicone shell or the

chemicals, or perhaps just having a foreign body in my body. Dr.

Feng thought my reaction was from the shell.

Sis

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...>

wrote:

>

> According to Dr. Kolb, not necessarily. She felt I would likely

not react

> if I chose to implant with saline implants, if she did the

surgery. She

> would not implant me with silicone because of the great risk of

reaction.

> She felt most patients who react to saline implants react to a

leak or

> bacterial infection from surgery -- both of which necessitate

explantation.

> It is less frequently a reaction to the silicone shell with a

saline

> implant.

>

> Kenda

>

> >

> > QUESTION TO ALL:

> >

> > IF YOU GOT IMPLANTS AND JUST REJECTED SILICONE IMPLANTS, DO YOU

THINK IF YOU

> > WOULD HAVE ALSO REJECTED SALINE IMPLANTS THE SAME WAY????

> > THIS WAS A QUESTION I WAS ASKED AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE

ON THE SAME

> > PAGE? THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!

>

[Guest guest]

Gretchy,

I got sick right away and I HAD SALINE. Saline is NOT SAFE either!!

If you reacted quickly to the silicone, I have the feeling you would

have reacted to the saline as well.

Sis

--- In , " foxygretchy " <gretchenc@...>

wrote:

>

> i regret getting silicone. i would not have got sick if i got saline.

> now i may never have my brain back.

>

[Guest guest]

thanks. i dont know why my body feels so hot and shakey inside.

feels like around my neck and arms itchy burny inside but its cold in

my house. i cant relax when this happens. my mind is ok but my body

is freaking out still. i hate this.

[Guest guest]

Ditto.....and I love the " smiley faces " !!

Gretchen...please don't assume you would not have had a reaction to

the saline implants. A lot of us here had saline and have obviously

had problems. Some reacted within weeks to the saline too.!!!

i regret getting silicone.

i would not have got sick if i got saline.

> now i may never have my brain back.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Patty,

Well said!! There is so much for us to remember that just keeps

coming out.

Terri P

>

> I just don't know how any doctor can know that, since nobody

understands yet the complete mechanisms involved.

>

> For instance, remember the research in Austria that showed the

presence of proteins on the surface of the shell of implants? You

can certainly get proteins on the silicone shell of saline implants

just as with silicone gel implants, as they are both foreign objects.

Bodily tissues are in contact with the shell. Proteins are on the

shell, and these proteins are what are supposedly causing the

autoimmune response.

>

> I think sometimes it is hard for some plastic surgeons to be

completely objective about saline implants if they tend to think they

are safer, regardless of their good intentions. So many women have

gotten sick from saline implants....I just don't think it is

predictable who may or may not get sick from them.

> Patty

>

>

> Re: Re: Please comment on this

article! . . . One would think...

>

> According to Dr. Kolb, not necessarily. She felt I would likely not

react

> if I chose to implant with saline implants, if she did the surgery.

She

> would not implant me with silicone because of the great risk of

reaction.

> She felt most patients who react to saline implants react to a leak

or

> bacterial infection from surgery -- both of which necessitate

explantation.

> It is less frequently a reaction to the silicone shell with a saline

> implant.

>

> Kenda

>

> >

> > QUESTION TO ALL:

> >

> > IF YOU GOT IMPLANTS AND JUST REJECTED SILICONE IMPLANTS, DO YOU

THINK IF YOU

> > WOULD HAVE ALSO REJECTED SALINE IMPLANTS THE SAME WAY????

> > THIS WAS A QUESTION I WAS ASKED AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON

THE SAME

> > PAGE? THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!!!! !!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

-,

Very well said. It is hard for some people to understand I guess what

others have gone through. We can only try to get through with our

stories of survival in hopes that it will help to ease other peoples

pain. You are a blessing and an angel for sharing your story. There

has been so much suffering. But you are right about dwelling on it

and stressing about it. After they are out it is time to try to get

better and appreciate what you have.Alot of women have lost there

lives.

God bless you for supporting others after you have been through so

much yourself, that is what this board is really all about. Picking

up the pieces and helping others as best we can, when we can.

Terri P

-- In , Lamse

<wannabe_proverbs31@...> wrote:

>

> Gretchen,

>

> You may have also gotten sick with saline. I had saline for six

years with no noticable effects. However during those six years

unknown to me, my immune system started to fall. After two years

with implants I was diagnosed with IC, I had three severe kidney

infections that put me in the hospital for days, I had a thoat

infection that made me comatose because of a very high fever (105),

they found a mass in my right kidney. I never knew all these things

were related to my implants. At year five, it when all hell broke

loose. My body finally lost the fight. I couldn't work, I could no

longer attend my nursing classes, I couldn't care for my family, I

had beginning forms of mental confustion and dementia. My body was

so far gone I couldn't type without extreme pain. In fact, I had to

use wheelchairs when I went to the store, mall, or anywhere with alot

of walking. I am now one year post explant and I am starting to get

my life back. The only time I suffer from the

> brain fog is when I am extremely tired. I have learned to balance

every part of my day. This includes how much I do, don't do, think,

not think, stress or not to stress.

>

> I know how you feel, I wished I would not have chosen my

implants. I should have spent the money on therapy to better my self

esteem. I cannot spend my energy wishing on what should have been or

what I should've done. My energy needs to be focused on managing the

health I have and learning the lessons I needed from all of this.

Every day I enjoy now, though still very limited in comparrison to

what I used to be, I am grateful for what I have. I have learned to

love, laugh, and live by new standards. Sometimes we take for

granted what we have till it is ripped from our lives.

>

> Have patience, my dear, please focus on your healing.

>

>

> foxygretchy <gretchenc@...> wrote:

> i regret getting silicone. i would not have got sick if i

got saline.

> now i may never have my brain back.

>

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