Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 is that glucophage? -- Re: Re: the radical self-care bunch Thanks , but the Metformin was a wreck all by itself putting my in the ER! Then I almost became addicted to Lomotil to counter the effects of it. I would MUCH rather sue insulin than that again. Besides the problem is this was let go three years by my stoopid doctor so it is not just simple insulin resistance type 2. I am fairly certain from the results I am not getting that I have little insulin left and a burned out pancreas. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ok Val, will do. --- wrote: > Tell ya what I will send you my info and if by 9AM I > haven't posted > anything to the list call me. but if I am at work > you might have to try > 2 numbers. I am online before work every AM unless i > am dying! LOL That > is my only time I am worried about is overnight if > I should go too low > in my sleep and not wake up to correct it. but > believe me there is no > danger of that right now. Maybe in another week when > I get the insulin > closer to what I probably need but I am adjusting > very slowly and mostly > in the daytime. I feel when my levels even get near > 160 I start shaking. > And that is not even close to where I should be but > because I have had > so high sugar for so long my body acts like it is > too low way before it > is, so I get plenty of warning. > > -- > Artistic > Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store > (Closing after Xmas!!!) > > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 >>is that glucophage? << Yes... -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Val: Can you set your alarm for midnight and have some peanut or cashew butter on graham crackers ready? -- Re: Re: the radical self-care bunch Tell ya what I will send you my info and if by 9AM I haven't posted anything to the list call me. but if I am at work you might have to try 2 numbers. I am online before work every AM unless i am dying! LOL That is my only time I am worried about is overnight if I should go too low in my sleep and not wake up to correct it. but believe me there is no danger of that right now. Maybe in another week when I get the insulin closer to what I probably need but I am adjusting very slowly and mostly in the daytime. I feel when my levels even get near 160 I start shaking. And that is not even close to where I should be but because I have had so high sugar for so long my body acts like it is too low way before it is, so I get plenty of warning. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 I just got in my supply of glucophage from Thailand. I ordered it back when you mentioned going on it cause my blood sugar has been running high since all the solumedrol this summer. I thought I ordered T4 too, but it never arrived. I don't think I will be trying the glucophage now that I have seen how it effected you. Good luck with your insulin trial. I tend to agree with Linn. I used to work in endo lab, and diabetic camp, and the adults who tried to keep very tight control over their blood glucose levels had difficulty. Others who were not as adament at keeping it at 100 did better. Cheese sticks, cashew butter, etc. should hold you from midnight to 6:00 am. What are you eating before bed? -- Re: Re: the radical self-care bunch >>is that glucophage? << Yes... -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Hi , Having been through blood sugar issues myself and on the verge of passing out in ten seconds flat EVERY time I ate something (about 3-4 hours after), I used to sleep on the floor next to my husband's bed so that I would have time to grab his arm if I was going to go unconscious. Hypoglycemia severe. Low sugar, high insulin like crazy. Fast drops, within seconds. For 3 years I did that (1992-1995) while the stupid doctors in the Endocrinology Dept. at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, Nebraska told me there was nothing wrong with me, and that there is no such thing as hypoglycemia. I lost over 80 pounds and was so weak and malnourished (because I had grown afraid to eat) by the time I found a Broda doc after 3 years of researching my illness MYSELF in a medical library, I was almost dead. I'll never forget that, and since I know that karma comes around, I feel sorry for those docs and their families because one day they will themselves know what it is like to be deathly ill and have nobody believe them. So I figure when anyone has that type of illness experience, there is only one thing to do, and that's just to offer to be there to whatever extent is wanted. Otherwise, what was the use of going through that whole experience? This way it is turned into a positive. It's a kind of defeat of the illness, and of the stupid doctors and their ignorant attitudes - a " yep i got better and so is this other person going to get better, in spite of everything. " A little peace of mind goes a long ways. --- " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: > : > > That is very sweet of you. Maybe we could get > several members of the list > to rotate calling. > > > > -- Re: Re: the radical > self-care bunch > > Val I would be happy to call you twice a day, or as > many times as you'd like even, every day, to make > sure > you're ok, if you like. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sponsored Link Free Uniden 5.8GHz Phone System with Packet8 Internet Phone Service http://www.getpacket8.net/yahoo2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Alright, now I am gonna be waking up in the middle of the night and checking my sugar, and it REALLY isn't necessary yet. 171 just now, so I am gonna try to go back to sleep. This is a problem. Once i wake up past 2AM I have HELL going back to sleep and then it is another totally wasted day. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Couldn't have said this any better myself! Ditto!! How about I call you to check on you in the evenings? in Lake Worth jambrimar wrote: I really, really don't want anything to happen to you. I am very concerned. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 , This year one of the things docs told me is that I am insulin resistant. I have been told to eat something healthy every two hours and often I forget. I used to have severe hypoglycemia. It has kind of come and gone in my lifetime. Do you know why so many of us have blood sugar issues? What is the connection here? And also, what did you do to heal yourself from your blood sugar issues? I'm so glad you're better! That was no way to live!!! Thanks, JD wrote: Hi , Having been through blood sugar issues myself and on the verge of passing out in ten seconds flat EVERY time I ate something (about 3-4 hours after), I used to sleep on the floor next to my husband's bed so that I would have time to grab his arm if I was going to go unconscious. Hypoglycemia severe. Low sugar, high insulin like crazy. Fast drops, within seconds. For 3 years I did that (1992-1995) while the stupid doctors in the Endocrinology Dept. at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha, Nebraska told me there was nothing wrong with me, and that there is no such thing as hypoglycemia. I lost over 80 pounds and was so weak and malnourished (because I had grown afraid to eat) by the time I found a Broda doc after 3 years of researching my illness MYSELF in a medical library, I was almost dead. I'll never forget that, and since I know that karma comes around, I feel sorry for those docs and their families because one day they will themselves know what it is like to be deathly ill and have nobody believe them. So I figure when anyone has that type of illness experience, there is only one thing to do, and that's just to offer to be there to whatever extent is wanted. Otherwise, what was the use of going through that whole experience? This way it is turned into a positive. It's a kind of defeat of the illness, and of the stupid doctors and their ignorant attitudes - a " yep i got better and so is this other person going to get better, in spite of everything. " A little peace of mind goes a long ways. --- " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: > : > > That is very sweet of you. Maybe we could get > several members of the list > to rotate calling. > > > > -- Re: Re: the radical > self-care bunch > > Val I would be happy to call you twice a day, or as > many times as you'd like even, every day, to make > sure > you're ok, if you like. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sponsored Link Free Uniden 5.8GHz Phone System with Packet8 Internet Phone Service http://www.getpacket8.net/yahoo2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 >>I don't think I will be trying the glucophage now that I have seen how it effected you.<< it doesn't affect everyone liek it did me. BUT a word to the wise. If yu try it start very low. Split those 500MG tablets in half and only take one half a day for the first week, then add the second half. Have Immodium on hand just in case.Probabyl the reaction I had was from the idoit doctor's DOSE he started me on. He started me on 2000MG a day with no working up to it. Then once my system is in MOOOOVIN mode, it just kept going. I am sure this is at least part of the reasonm I am this tired still. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I sincerely believe that hypoglycemia is due to adrenal issues, or a symptom of it. I don't get hypoglycemia if I remember to take my Cortef on time, and I can often head off adrenal issues by eating protein. Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them. -- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935 > Do you know why so many of us have blood sugar issues? What is the > connection here? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 >>I sincerely believe that hypoglycemia is due to adrenal issues, or a symptom of it. I don't get hypoglycemia if I remember to take my Cortef on time, and I can often head off adrenal issues by eating protein.<<\ Actually I have been looking into the cortisol/ blood sugar connection alot lately! (n the same way that low OR high cortisol affects thyroid conversion and use, it also affects blood sugar the same way and possibly due to the thyroid connection. When your body is hypo it cannot use glucose so excess can be stored in the blood, just as in hyper or hypo cortisolism. HIGH cortisol also causes hypo and hyper blood sugar levels... As it stops the conversion of T4 to T3. Which further substantiates the fact that my HC usage has been treating high cortisol rather than low. THIS is why I had no problems recognizing a need for adrenal support in the night time for me, my shakes were only from low cortisol, not hypoglycemia! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Thanks ...that's good news since I'm going to be treating my adrenals soon. Ives wrote: I sincerely believe that hypoglycemia is due to adrenal issues, or a symptom of it. I don't get hypoglycemia if I remember to take my Cortef on time, and I can often head off adrenal issues by eating protein. Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them. -- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935 > Do you know why so many of us have blood sugar issues? What is the > connection here? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 wrote:>When your body is hypo it cannot use glucose so excess can be stored in the blood, just as in hyper or hypo cortisolism. So when glucose remains in the blood, that triggers insulin to be released...to store the blood sugar for later use, right? >HIGH cortisol also causes hypo and hyper blood sugar levels... As it stops the conversion of T4 to T3. And T3 would be the substance to trigger the glucose in the blood to be utilized, right? >Which further substantiates the fact that my HC usage has been treating high cortisol rather than low. You can use HC to treat HIGH or ELEVATED cortisol? I didn't know that. I had planned to take Seriphos at night to lower my elevated cortisol and take HC during the day to raise my daytime depressed cortisol. Does the release of insulin (in response to high blood sugar) trigger the release of cortisol? --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 >>You can use HC to treat HIGH or ELEVATED cortisol? I didn't know that. I had planned to take Seriphos at night to lower my elevated cortisol and take HC during the day to raise my daytime depressed cortisol.<< YES. you may not need the Seriphos at night once on HC. By taking the HC it lowers your ACTH, which in turn should lower your nighttime cortisol as well. Many of us need a bedtime dose of HC to sleep well and this is why it can actually lower it too much. I don't take ANY HC first thiing in the AM now but I still need the bedtime dose! \ >>Does the release of insulin (in response to high blood sugar) trigger the release of cortisol?<< This I don't know yet! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 One thing I know for sure. My lack of insulin has definitely been the cause of my fatigue! I did a 25U dose then when sugar was still too high this morning I took a second shot of 5U THIS is good! I am cleaning my house and after a big breakfast my levels are not low, but reasonable. They went up to 232 right after the meal but now are down to 169, this s has not happened with the lower doses they had me on. And i certainly had NO energy. My LR is HALF way to looking good... YAY!!!! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Thanks Val! wrote: >>You can use HC to treat HIGH or ELEVATED cortisol? I didn't know that. I had planned to take Seriphos at night to lower my elevated cortisol and take HC during the day to raise my daytime depressed cortisol.<< YES. you may not need the Seriphos at night once on HC. By taking the HC it lowers your ACTH, which in turn should lower your nighttime cortisol as well. Many of us need a bedtime dose of HC to sleep well and this is why it can actually lower it too much. I don't take ANY HC first thiing in the AM now but I still need the bedtime dose! \ >>Does the release of insulin (in response to high blood sugar) trigger the release of cortisol?<< This I don't know yet! -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 - You really can outsmart the doctors. I've been praying for you. --- wrote: > One thing I know for sure. My lack of insulin has > definitely been the > cause of my fatigue! I did a 25U dose then when > sugar was still too high > this morning I took a second shot of 5U THIS is > good! I am cleaning my > house and after a big breakfast my levels are not > low, but reasonable. > They went up to 232 right after the meal but now are > down to 169, this s > has not happened with the lower doses they had me > on. And i certainly > had NO energy. My LR is HALF way to looking good... > YAY!!!! > > -- > Artistic > Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store > (Closing after Xmas!!!) > > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sponsored Link Get a free Motorola Razr! Today Only! Choose Cingular, Sprint, Verizon, Alltel, or T-Mobile. http://www.letstalk.com/inlink.htm?to=592913 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Val, I wouldn't think it would be necessary to check it every night in the middle of the night. Depending on what time you take your last dose, in the evening, shoot for when the peak action of that insulin, say about 6 hours later than when you took it. So if you could take the dose around 4 or 5 in the afternoon, then make sure and check your BG around 11:00, you'd get a good view of how it's working. Plus didn't you say that you get up really early in the morning, then you could do your morning check then. Linn > Alright, now I am gonna be waking up in the middle of the night and > checking my sugar, and it REALLY isn't necessary yet. 171 just now, > so I > am gonna try to go back to sleep. This is a problem. Once i wake up > past > 2AM I have HELL going back to sleep and then it is another totally > wasted day. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Val, That's because the glucose hasn't been getting to your cells to give you energy. The insulin is like a key that unlocks the cell and lets the glucose enter. Linn > One thing I know for sure. My lack of insulin has definitely been the > cause of my fatigue! I did a 25U dose then when sugar was still too > high > this morning I took a second shot of 5U THIS is good! I am cleaning my > house and after a big breakfast my levels are not low, but reasonable. > They went up to 232 right after the meal but now are down to 169, > this s > has not happened with the lower doses they had me on. And i certainly > had NO energy. My LR is HALF way to looking good... YAY!!!! > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Thanks Linn. I do check before bed and also eat a protein snack at bedtime as well. maybe I will allow myself some real p-nut butter tonight! I am also awake usually by 5 AM the latest! LOL -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Yes, it would, that's what insulin resistance is, your body is producing insulin, it's just not recognizing it correctly, it's as if it has the wrong key. Linn > Would the same be the case with IR, Linn? > > > > > > > > Val, > > > > That's because the glucose hasn't been getting to your cells to give > > you energy. The insulin is like a key that unlocks the cell and lets > > the glucose enter. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Awesome Val!!! Way to GO! --- wrote: > One thing I know for sure. My lack of insulin has > definitely been the > cause of my fatigue! I did a 25U dose then when > sugar was still too high > this morning I took a second shot of 5U THIS is > good! I am cleaning my > house and after a big breakfast my levels are not > low, but reasonable. > They went up to 232 right after the meal but now are > down to 169, this s > has not happened with the lower doses they had me > on. And i certainly > had NO energy. My LR is HALF way to looking good... > YAY!!!! > > -- > Artistic > Grooming- Hurricane WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store > (Closing after Xmas!!!) > > http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Sponsored Link Get an Online or Campus degree Associate's, Bachelor's, or Master's - in less than one year. http://www.findtherightschool.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 : Watching my sis and dad die from cancer treatment makes me think about the karma to the jerks too. I must have been severely hyperinsulinemic growing up. No matter what I had for breakfast, I would be hypoglycemic and nauseated as a kid, for years. I was extremely underweight but mom disguised it with clothes. I also developed a phobia of eating, not exactly sure from what. I always attributed it to friction during mealtime at home. Later when I moved out I started eating normally and putting on weight. But for years in late adolescence and early 20's I was 105 at 5'6 " and not small boned. For much of my life I woke up with a kind of morning sickness which I figured was hypoglycemia. Funny, no doctor I ever went to even noticed! -- Re: Re: the radical > self-care bunch > > Val I would be happy to call you twice a day, or as > many times as you'd like even, every day, to make > sure > you're ok, if you like. __________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Free Uniden 5.8GHz Phone System with Packet8 Internet Phone Service http://www.getpacket8.net/yahoo2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Do high fat snacks at that time not help at all? -- Re: Re: the radical self-care bunch Alright, now I am gonna be waking up in the middle of the night and checking my sugar, and it REALLY isn't necessary yet. 171 just now, so I am gonna try to go back to sleep. This is a problem. Once i wake up past 2AM I have HELL going back to sleep and then it is another totally wasted day. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV My Ebay Jewelry Store (Closing after Xmas!!!) http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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