Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 In a message dated 11/5/2006 2:18:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, phonicity@... writes: You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for sex? Sex? Duh, what is that? The thought if it is so foreign to me, and makes me cringe. My desire went right out the window! Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than me and I worry. Ives wrote: Amy, why don't you have your husband read the STTM website? That's what I did. While I wouldn't say that my husband was quite as bad as yours, he did know there was something wrong with me (evidenced b y the lack of sex, and the fact that I did not have any joy in anything I used to be interested in before). I also sent him an article, I will see if I can find the link if you want, " The Spoon Theory " , or something like that, about how much those of us with these conditions can actually do in a day. That helped a lot, and he still asks me if I have any spoons left for him. Don't get me wrong, things aren't all rosey and peachy-keen, we just had another argument last weekend, and I do get attitude far too often, even if he doesn't come out and say it, its there. But he sees me going to doctors, and reading, and researching, and trying things and knows that I am TRYING. Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them. -- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935 Re: adrenal crisis > > > Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words. > > I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving > lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy. > I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and > doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and > my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and > inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house > and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm > making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people > tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine > without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I > feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space > in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM? > > Amy > > >> >> >> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> phonicity@... writes: >> >> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us, > trying to >> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are > NOT giving up! >> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!! >> >> >> >> ...you could not have said any better! >> >> Helen >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , your libido shouldn't be out the window if you're on natural hormone replacement therapy, that is, bioidentical Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone in the proper balances. If you haven't had your sex hormone levels tested through a saliva test, you might want to consider doing so. --- Whitmore wrote: > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost > their lust for sex? My libido literally went out > the window after my hysterectomy. My hubby misses > me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. > Hoping something I'm doing will bring it back cause > he's several years younger than me and I worry. > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , if you've had a hysterectomy, then you should look into bioidentical hormone replacement. Suzanne Somers will tell you all about how she would never be without them and she and her husband have the sex-life of 18 year olds. Re: adrenal crisis > > > Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words. > > I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving > lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy. > I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and > doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and > my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and > inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house > and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm > making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people > tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine > without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I > feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space > in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM? > > Amy > > >> >> >> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> phonicity@... writes: >> >> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us, > trying to >> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are > NOT giving up! >> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!! >> >> >> >> ...you could not have said any better! >> >> Helen >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , You are right. I have had my hormones tested via saliva test in Feb, 05; Feb, 05 and Sept, 06. All of my sex hormones were off the charts due to overdosing of HRT by traditional gyns. Had to stop everything and wait (yuck) for my levels to come down on their own. With the Sept, 06 saliva test, my progesterone is still high while my estradiol is slightly low. Testosterone is okay now. I am using a sublingual estradiol in a very, very low dose .05 per drop. And I'm using Ostaderm for vaginal dryness. The dose is so low because I don't want to become estrogen dominant again. If you possibly have any additional thoughts on the libido issue, I would be glad to consider anything that might be contributing to this gray void in my Self. Thank you. JD wrote: , your libido shouldn't be out the window if you're on natural hormone replacement therapy, that is, bioidentical Estrogen, Progesterone, and Testosterone in the proper balances. If you haven't had your sex hormone levels tested through a saliva test, you might want to consider doing so. --- Whitmore wrote: > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost > their lust for sex? My libido literally went out > the window after my hysterectomy. My hubby misses > me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. > Hoping something I'm doing will bring it back cause > he's several years younger than me and I worry. > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone, doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most doctors are absolutely clueless about this. Linn > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than > me and I worry. > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , I'm " on " to bio-ID HRT after being overdosed with traditional HRT without benefit of saliva testing for over a year beyond the hysterectomy. Still trying to get my progesterone level down to within normal range for a post meno, HRT person. Thanks much, Gikas wrote: , if you've had a hysterectomy, then you should look into bioidentical hormone replacement. Suzanne Somers will tell you all about how she would never be without them and she and her husband have the sex-life of 18 year olds. Re: adrenal crisis > > > Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words. > > I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving > lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy. > I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and > doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and > my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and > inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house > and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm > making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people > tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine > without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I > feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space > in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM? > > Amy > > >> >> >> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> phonicity@... writes: >> >> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us, > trying to >> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are > NOT giving up! >> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!! >> >> >> >> ...you could not have said any better! >> >> Helen >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Linn, This is encouraging news! If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system correctly, I must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time begin iodine (if applicable according to loading test...and then not sure if I should use Lugol's or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms are minimized with these first two steps, I start taking Thyroid-S (couldn't find Armour) gradually increasing by 1/4 grain every two to three weeks. I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not overshooting the optimal hormone target ranges. This is the depressing part...the time it takes to get back to at least where I was. I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a thyroid dump. But I didn't notice any improvement with libido with the Cytomel. Perhaps because my adrenals were not being addressed. Linn wrote: , The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone, doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most doctors are absolutely clueless about this. Linn > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than > me and I worry. > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , I'm probably not as up to par about how to systematically add in everything as others on the group. This past summer I started with kelp, then added Cortisol, then Armour after about 10 days of Cortisol. Now I'm taking Iodoral instead of kelp, for about 2 months I think. Was already taking bio-id progesterone at the same time. This is the second time I've taken Armour, but this time I've had great results. I do think all the other things come into play. For instance without the iodine, between the Armour and the progesterone, my breasts would be sore, added in the Iodoral, no breast problems. The Iodoral also helped me regain moisture in my body. I've had dry eyes for as long as I can remember, and in the past couple of years developed vaginal dryness, the iodine has improved that tremendously. I think Armour works as well as it does because it has all the thryoid hormones in it. There's definitely a connection for thyroid and libido. I would give the Thyroid S a try. I was able to increase by 1/4 grain about every 10 days by taking the Armour several times a day during the day without it having a bad effect on adrenals. I started out with a 1/4 grain dose in the morning for about a week, then added in another 1/4 grain in the afternoon, after a week to 10 days added in a third dose and spaced those about 4 hours apart. Did that until I was taking five 1/4 grain doses a day and then started increasing the morning dose to a higher one and kept playing with it like that until I was able to take 1 whole grain in the morning, which I like much better, gets me off to a much more energetic start, and then I still take a lunch dose and an afternoon dose. I had problems before with taking my dose all at one time in the morning, and Val (might note here that Val knew immediately what I needed to address and I was able to actually get up off the sofa with her help!!) and the other gals on NTH helped me figure out how to space it out. I know the Armour was a tremendous help with my mood also. Check with Val and the others to see if you can't add in the thyroid now with everything else. Or are you trying to see if the iodine alone will kick your thyroid back into working order? If you've been taking synthetic hormones it will take a little while for those to get out of your body, so hang in there, things are on the way up!! It does take time, but if it works for you like it did me, before you know it, you'll be feeling much better! I look back now and I can't believe how insidious thyroid and adrenal disease is because you don't even realize that you're feeling that bad until it just knocks you down and you can't get back up like you did all the other times, at least that's how it felt for me. I started feeling a lot better in about 6 weeks time and at the 3 month mark was feeling pretty darn good!! Now if I can get back to my regular workout schedule and wean off of Cortisol successfully, I'll be a happy camper. Linn > Linn, > > This is encouraging news! > > If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system > correctly, I must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time > begin iodine (if applicable according to loading test...and then > not sure if I should use Lugol's or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms > are minimized with these first two steps, I start taking Thyroid-S > (couldn't find Armour) gradually increasing by 1/4 grain every two > to three weeks. > > I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not > overshooting the optimal hormone target ranges. This is the > depressing part...the time it takes to get back to at least where I > was. > > I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a > thyroid dump. But I didn't notice any improvement with libido with > the Cytomel. Perhaps because my adrenals were not being addressed. > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hi , just wanted to say you're not alone. I was happy to read your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI) either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle. My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit we have to do something. Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you (and I for that matter!). in NY > > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than > > me and I worry. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I don't even have the excuse of a hysterectomy! I don't know where mine went. I do vaguely recall that I had quite a bit of libido while pregnant, but after the pregnancy, WHAMOO, in the dumps. Is that progesterone that is high while you're pregnant? Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them. -- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935 Re: adrenal crisis > > >> >> >> Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words. >> >> I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving >> lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy. >> I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and >> doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and >> my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and >> inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house >> and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm >> making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people >> tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine >> without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I >> feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space >> in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM? >> >> Amy >> >> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> phonicity@... writes: >>> >>> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us, >> trying to >>> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are >> NOT giving up! >>> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> ...you could not have said any better! >>> >>> Helen >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Linn, Okay...so that's why I'm still having a " strong " heart beat in my chest...the Cytomel being synthetic is probably taking longer to exit stage left. I was wondering about that. More like worrying. And it is interesting about the kelp vs. Iodoral...kind of like Isocort vs. HC. The reason why I'm waiting is that my self-prescribed Thyroid-S and HC have not arrived as yet. I lie in wait for the mail man every day. Thanks again for explaining how you increased your dosages and in what order. Honestly ladies...I read and read but I cannot retain or recall info worth a hoot! Linn wrote: , I'm probably not as up to par about how to systematically add in everything as others on the group. This past summer I started with kelp, then added Cortisol, then Armour after about 10 days of Cortisol. Now I'm taking Iodoral instead of kelp, for about 2 months I think. Was already taking bio-id progesterone at the same time. This is the second time I've taken Armour, but this time I've had great results. I do think all the other things come into play. For instance without the iodine, between the Armour and the progesterone, my breasts would be sore, added in the Iodoral, no breast problems. The Iodoral also helped me regain moisture in my body. I've had dry eyes for as long as I can remember, and in the past couple of years developed vaginal dryness, the iodine has improved that tremendously. I think Armour works as well as it does because it has all the thryoid hormones in it. There's definitely a connection for thyroid and libido. I would give the Thyroid S a try. I was able to increase by 1/4 grain about every 10 days by taking the Armour several times a day during the day without it having a bad effect on adrenals. I started out with a 1/4 grain dose in the morning for about a week, then added in another 1/4 grain in the afternoon, after a week to 10 days added in a third dose and spaced those about 4 hours apart. Did that until I was taking five 1/4 grain doses a day and then started increasing the morning dose to a higher one and kept playing with it like that until I was able to take 1 whole grain in the morning, which I like much better, gets me off to a much more energetic start, and then I still take a lunch dose and an afternoon dose. I had problems before with taking my dose all at one time in the morning, and Val (might note here that Val knew immediately what I needed to address and I was able to actually get up off the sofa with her help!!) and the other gals on NTH helped me figure out how to space it out. I know the Armour was a tremendous help with my mood also. Check with Val and the others to see if you can't add in the thyroid now with everything else. Or are you trying to see if the iodine alone will kick your thyroid back into working order? If you've been taking synthetic hormones it will take a little while for those to get out of your body, so hang in there, things are on the way up!! It does take time, but if it works for you like it did me, before you know it, you'll be feeling much better! I look back now and I can't believe how insidious thyroid and adrenal disease is because you don't even realize that you're feeling that bad until it just knocks you down and you can't get back up like you did all the other times, at least that's how it felt for me. I started feeling a lot better in about 6 weeks time and at the 3 month mark was feeling pretty darn good!! Now if I can get back to my regular workout schedule and wean off of Cortisol successfully, I'll be a happy camper. Linn > Linn, > > This is encouraging news! > > If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system > correctly, I must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time > begin iodine (if applicable according to loading test...and then > not sure if I should use Lugol's or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms > are minimized with these first two steps, I start taking Thyroid-S > (couldn't find Armour) gradually increasing by 1/4 grain every two > to three weeks. > > I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not > overshooting the optimal hormone target ranges. This is the > depressing part...the time it takes to get back to at least where I > was. > > I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a > thyroid dump. But I didn't notice any improvement with libido with > the Cytomel. Perhaps because my adrenals were not being addressed. > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , you have a good plan set out. Stick too it! Don't get caught up in raising doses too fast, etc. I started on Armour almost a year ago, and I am soooo much better than I was a year ago! Certainly not 100%, as I'm peeling away the layers of the onion and uncovering other stuff, but you have a great plan put together. Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them. -- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935 Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido > Linn, > > This is encouraging news! > > If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system correctly, > I must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time begin iodine (if > applicable according to loading test...and then not sure if I should use > Lugol's or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms are minimized with these first > two steps, I start taking Thyroid-S (couldn't find Armour) gradually > increasing by 1/4 grain every two to three weeks. > > I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not > overshooting the optimal hormone target ranges. This is the depressing > part...the time it takes to get back to at least where I was. > > I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a thyroid dump. > But I didn't notice any improvement with libido with the Cytomel. Perhaps > because my adrenals were not being addressed. > > > > Linn wrote: , > > The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id > hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone, > doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic > difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he > would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think > that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if > you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to > fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely > affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a > hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty > soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most > doctors are absolutely clueless about this. > > Linn > > > >> You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for >> sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. >> My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together >> and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something >> I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than >> me and I worry. >> >> >> >> . >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , Thank you for sharing and no, that was not TMI. I have the same trouble and am using Ostaderm by Bezwecken (I think) which helps. I've found that if I put on music and have just a little sip of something alcoholic to relax me...and it's night time when my cortisol elevates and I have a bit of energy, LOL, then I can " seem " fairly into sex. It just doesn't happen that often because this is such an effort. With my spirits so low, I am the least exciting person I know! I am not surprised that you are experiencing low DHEA with the symptom of low libido. What I am discovering is that ALL of our hormones must be relatively in sinc ration wise and that's damned hard to accomplish especially on our own! I'm glad you have a doc willing to prescribe things like DHEA. I had a discussion with my hubby about my lack of libido and told him how much it was bothering me and that I knew it was bothering him and that I was sorry. He said that it really helped him to know I missed him that way too. andreah1166 wrote: Hi , just wanted to say you're not alone. I was happy to read your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI) either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle. My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit we have to do something. Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you (and I for that matter!). in NY > > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than > > me and I worry. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yep, your progesterone goes way up when you're pregnant. I'm sorry you're in the same boat, but glad to have the company. Ives wrote: I don't even have the excuse of a hysterectomy! I don't know where mine went. I do vaguely recall that I had quite a bit of libido while pregnant, but after the pregnancy, WHAMOO, in the dumps. Is that progesterone that is high while you're pregnant? Best, http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them. -- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935 Re: adrenal crisis > > >> >> >> Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words. >> >> I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving >> lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy. >> I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and >> doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and >> my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and >> inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house >> and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm >> making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people >> tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine >> without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I >> feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space >> in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM? >> >> Amy >> >> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> phonicity@... writes: >>> >>> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us, >> trying to >>> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are >> NOT giving up! >>> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> ...you could not have said any better! >>> >>> Helen >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Linn: How much armour are you taking? -- Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido , The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone, doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most doctors are absolutely clueless about this. Linn > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than > me and I worry. > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 : I wonder why your doc only gave you DHEA? Estrogen, progesterone needs to be replaced with the hyst. That jibberish about your ovaries working even tho the uterus is gone, is incorrect. Generally due to enervation ffrom the surgery, the connections die and the ovaries no longer function. Have you had tests to assess your levels? If the estrogen and progesterone do not work (bioidentical) then one can add testosterone. I assure you, the testosterone will work in giving you back a libido! The estrogen will immediately relieve the dryness too. -- Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido Hi , just wanted to say you're not alone. I was happy to read your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI) either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle. My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit we have to do something. Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you (and I for that matter!). in NY > > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than > > me and I worry. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , there is NO reason that you cannot be tested for your hormone levels, and of COURSE they can be tested even after a hysterectomy. Your doctor sounds very unknowledgable. The lack of lubrication is probably a lack of Estrogen, and the lack of libido is probably a lack of all three, Estrogen, Progesterone, and especially Testosterone. These levels are VERY easy to find out, with a saliva test. If you want to do it yourself, go to ZRT Labs or Canary Club or Diagnos-Test and order the test kit. You can also talk to Pete at Bellevue Pharmacy, whom I HIGHLY recommend. He and his team there KNOW female hormones both before and after hysterectomies and/or menopause and also have a saliva test kit they can send out to you. They will give you a consultation, and then write up a plan for you AND they will talk to your doctor as well. They prescribe bioidentical hormones and will ship to you anywhere. Don't take synthetics. They are extremely reasonable in their consultation fee, and you get it back in full if you use them for your prescriptions. I think it's 24.00 for the first 15 minutes and 2.00 a minute after that, and it usually doesn't run much at all. They are GOOD, the best. Email is Consultph@... (make it " Attention Pete " and tell him that from Norfolk, VA referred you if you like. I refer people to him all the time. (and no, i dont get anything for it, he and his team are just so good and nobody should be suffering like you and so many other women are) Website is: http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com Consultation page is: http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com/hormone/overview.asp Order Saliva Test: http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com/hormone/lab.asp You no longer even have a cycle if you've had a hysterectomy, and the only difference this should make in testing is that you can take the test ANY time rather than having to wait until Day 21 of your cycle as you would if you were still intact. Of course your levels can still be measured. You'll need to go off the DHEA for a week prior though. --- andreah1166 wrote: > But the whole > situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication > (sorry if TMI) > either, that whole section of my body is lifeless > yet so > oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a > hysterectomy, in > Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested > my hormones and as > far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they > really don't know if > the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I > am in a cycle. > My testosterone was almost non existent as well as > my DHEA. So, the > dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up > mid-range and she > hoped that would change my drive but it's done > nothing. I told her > on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) > that next visit > we have to do something. > Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to > know there's someone > out here that has almost the same situation! Best > of luck to you > (and I for that matter!). > in NY ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com (http://www.yahoo.com/preview) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , Just ask, somebody here will help. Lots of people have been in the same position before so they understand, especially about not being able to remember everything. I wouldn't have gotten this far without all the help. Linn > Linn, > > Okay...so that's why I'm still having a " strong " heart beat in my > chest...the Cytomel being synthetic is probably taking longer to > exit stage left. I was wondering about that. More like worrying. > > And it is interesting about the kelp vs. Iodoral...kind of like > Isocort vs. HC. > > The reason why I'm waiting is that my self-prescribed Thyroid-S and > HC have not arrived as yet. I lie in wait for the mail man every day. > > Thanks again for explaining how you increased your dosages and in > what order. Honestly ladies...I read and read but I cannot retain > or recall info worth a hoot! > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 , I was on 2 grains but have increased my Iodoral dose and noticed that I was getting some hyper symptoms, so I backed my dose down to 1 1/2 to see how I feel. So far so good, but will give it another 2 weeks to see if it's still okay. Linn > Linn: > > How much armour are you taking? > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 , it does feel good knowing we're not alone. I've talked to my hubby too and he's amazingly understanding but I can't help but wonder how long he'll be understanding, you know? I will look up the Ostraderm and give it a whirl. I see a naturopath who is also a certified nurse midwife (so she can prescribe) next Monday and I'm hoping of talking her into testosterone. Still trying to figure out if I want to tell my dr. that I'm going to see her. Think I'll try the alcohol too, hey you never know!!!!! Thanks again and have a great day! We'll get thru this somehow!!!! in NY > > > > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust > for > > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my > hysterectomy. > > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun > together > > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping > something > > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger > than > > > me and I worry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks so much , I've printed out your post and will check out their website, etc. I'm seeing a naturopath next Monday and she assured me she will be testing everything under the sun so I will see what happens then, she did also assure me that she will prescribe whatever is needed hormone-wise. I think my reg. dr. is being overly cautious and only doing one thing at a time, I understand that but I'm the one suffering! I've had blood hormone tests done...should I read my results as a woman in menopause even if I have my ovaries? > > > > But the whole > > situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication > > (sorry if TMI) > > either, that whole section of my body is lifeless > > yet so > > oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a > > hysterectomy, in > > Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested > > my hormones and as > > far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they > > really don't know if > > the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I > > am in a cycle. > > My testosterone was almost non existent as well as > > my DHEA. So, the > > dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up > > mid-range and she > > hoped that would change my drive but it's done > > nothing. I told her > > on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) > > that next visit > > we have to do something. > > Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to > > know there's someone > > out here that has almost the same situation! Best > > of luck to you > > (and I for that matter!). > > in NY > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com > (http://www.yahoo.com/preview) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks , I replied to in this thread saying I'm seeing a naturopath next Monday who will be testing everything again and she can prescribe (she's a midwife too) hormones, etc. I'm hoping she'll be my salvation then I'll break down and tell my reg. dr or switch and say the heck with her. Have to drive 2 1/2 hours to see this naturopath. The dryness was starting even before my hysterectomy but it wasn't totally non existent as it is now. I had been on the pill since I was 17 (I'm 39) and for at least 10-15 years I was taking them all month and not taking a break for a period as I had bad endometriosis. That had to have screwed me up royally. The year before my hyst. I switched to the Mirena IUD and was only getting small amounts of progesterone thru that, I have a feeling that made matters even worse. At this point I can only hope that the naturopath will sympathize and help me out. I had everything tested in June but like I said in my post, my dr. said she wasn't sure about the numbers because of my hyst. Gee, thanks doc. My testosterone was .5 with the range being 0-80 (guessing, don't have the paper in front of me for the range but I'm pretty sure that was the number. I asked her right then about the testosterone but she said to do the DHEA first. All of this makes me wonder if it's more hormonal that thyroid for me. I'm taking armour and have recently started isocort and things are much better but there's still issues that are exactly the same. Isn't it awful that we feel we have to scream at the dr. for help? Ugh. in NY > > > > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust > for > > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my > hysterectomy. > > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun > together > > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping > something > > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger > than > > > me and I worry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 After my hysterectomy, I was supplemented with testosterone and it didn't save my libido. There's more going on here. Also, your fat cells make estrogen after your ovaries are taken or die. The ovaries aren't the only place estrogen is manufactured. " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: : I wonder why your doc only gave you DHEA? Estrogen, progesterone needs to be replaced with the hyst. That jibberish about your ovaries working even tho the uterus is gone, is incorrect. Generally due to enervation ffrom the surgery, the connections die and the ovaries no longer function. Have you had tests to assess your levels? If the estrogen and progesterone do not work (bioidentical) then one can add testosterone. I assure you, the testosterone will work in giving you back a libido! The estrogen will immediately relieve the dryness too. -- Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido Hi , just wanted to say you're not alone. I was happy to read your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI) either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle. My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit we have to do something. Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you (and I for that matter!). in NY > > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than > > me and I worry. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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