Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido

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In a message dated 11/5/2006 2:18:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

phonicity@... writes:

You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for sex?

Sex? Duh, what is that? The thought if it is so foreign to me, and makes

me cringe. My desire went right out the window!

Helen

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You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for sex? My

libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy. My hubby misses me

so much...we used to have a lot of fun together and I can only say that I WISH I

missed this too. Hoping something I'm doing will bring it back cause he's

several years younger than me and I worry.

Ives wrote: Amy, why don't you have your husband

read the STTM website? That's what I

did. While I wouldn't say that my husband was quite as bad as yours, he did

know there was something wrong with me (evidenced b y the lack of sex, and

the fact that I did not have any joy in anything I used to be interested in

before). I also sent him an article, I will see if I can find the link if

you want, " The Spoon Theory " , or something like that, about how much those

of us with these conditions can actually do in a day. That helped a lot,

and he still asks me if I have any spoons left for him.

Don't get me wrong, things aren't all rosey and peachy-keen, we just had

another argument last weekend, and I do get attitude far too often, even if

he doesn't come out and say it, its there. But he sees me going to doctors,

and reading, and researching, and trying things and knows that I am TRYING.

Best,

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http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical

invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.

-- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935

Re: adrenal crisis

>

>

> Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words.

>

> I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving

> lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy.

> I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and

> doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and

> my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and

> inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house

> and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm

> making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people

> tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine

> without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I

> feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space

> in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM?

>

> Amy

>

>

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>> phonicity@... writes:

>>

>> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us,

> trying to

>> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are

> NOT giving up!

>> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> ...you could not have said any better!

>>

>> Helen

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

, your libido shouldn't be out the window if

you're on natural hormone replacement therapy, that

is, bioidentical Estrogen, Progesterone, and

Testosterone in the proper balances. If you haven't

had your sex hormone levels tested through a saliva

test, you might want to consider doing so.

--- Whitmore wrote:

> You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost

> their lust for sex? My libido literally went out

> the window after my hysterectomy. My hubby misses

> me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together

> and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too.

> Hoping something I'm doing will bring it back cause

> he's several years younger than me and I worry.

>

>

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, if you've had a hysterectomy, then you should look into bioidentical

hormone replacement. Suzanne Somers will tell you all about how she would never

be without them and she and her husband have the sex-life of 18 year olds.

Re: adrenal crisis

>

>

> Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words.

>

> I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving

> lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy.

> I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and

> doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and

> my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and

> inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house

> and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm

> making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people

> tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine

> without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I

> feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space

> in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM?

>

> Amy

>

>

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>> phonicity@... writes:

>>

>> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us,

> trying to

>> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are

> NOT giving up!

>> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> ...you could not have said any better!

>>

>> Helen

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

,

You are right. I have had my hormones tested via saliva test in Feb, 05; Feb,

05 and Sept, 06. All of my sex hormones were off the charts due to overdosing

of HRT by traditional gyns. Had to stop everything and wait (yuck) for my

levels to come down on their own.

With the Sept, 06 saliva test, my progesterone is still high while my estradiol

is slightly low. Testosterone is okay now.

I am using a sublingual estradiol in a very, very low dose .05 per drop. And

I'm using Ostaderm for vaginal dryness. The dose is so low because I don't want

to become estrogen dominant again.

If you possibly have any additional thoughts on the libido issue, I would be

glad to consider anything that might be contributing to this gray void in my

Self.

Thank you.

JD wrote: , your libido shouldn't be out the window if

you're on natural hormone replacement therapy, that

is, bioidentical Estrogen, Progesterone, and

Testosterone in the proper balances. If you haven't

had your sex hormone levels tested through a saliva

test, you might want to consider doing so.

--- Whitmore

wrote:

> You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost

> their lust for sex? My libido literally went out

> the window after my hysterectomy. My hubby misses

> me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together

> and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too.

> Hoping something I'm doing will bring it back cause

> he's several years younger than me and I worry.

>

>

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,

The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id

hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone,

doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic

difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he

would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think

that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if

you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to

fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely

affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a

hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty

soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most

doctors are absolutely clueless about this.

Linn

> You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for

> sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy.

> My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together

> and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something

> I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than

> me and I worry.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I'm " on " to bio-ID HRT after being overdosed with traditional HRT without

benefit of saliva testing for over a year beyond the hysterectomy. Still trying

to get my progesterone level down to within normal range for a post meno, HRT

person.

Thanks much,

Gikas wrote: , if you've had a hysterectomy, then

you should look into bioidentical hormone replacement. Suzanne Somers will tell

you all about how she would never be without them and she and her husband have

the sex-life of 18 year olds.

Re: adrenal crisis

>

>

> Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words.

>

> I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving

> lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy.

> I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and

> doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and

> my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and

> inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house

> and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm

> making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people

> tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine

> without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I

> feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space

> in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM?

>

> Amy

>

>

>>

>>

>> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>> phonicity@... writes:

>>

>> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us,

> trying to

>> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are

> NOT giving up!

>> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> ...you could not have said any better!

>>

>> Helen

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Linn,

This is encouraging news!

If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system correctly, I

must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time begin iodine (if

applicable according to loading test...and then not sure if I should use Lugol's

or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms are minimized with these first two steps, I

start taking Thyroid-S (couldn't find Armour) gradually increasing by 1/4 grain

every two to three weeks.

I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not overshooting the

optimal hormone target ranges. This is the depressing part...the time it takes

to get back to at least where I was.

I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a thyroid dump. But

I didn't notice any improvement with libido with the Cytomel. Perhaps because

my adrenals were not being addressed.

Linn wrote: ,

The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id

hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone,

doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic

difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he

would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think

that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if

you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to

fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely

affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a

hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty

soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most

doctors are absolutely clueless about this.

Linn

> You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for

> sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy.

> My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together

> and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something

> I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than

> me and I worry.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I'm probably not as up to par about how to systematically add in

everything as others on the group. This past summer I started with

kelp, then added Cortisol, then Armour after about 10 days of

Cortisol. Now I'm taking Iodoral instead of kelp, for about 2 months

I think. Was already taking bio-id progesterone at the same time.

This is the second time I've taken Armour, but this time I've had

great results. I do think all the other things come into play. For

instance without the iodine, between the Armour and the progesterone,

my breasts would be sore, added in the Iodoral, no breast problems.

The Iodoral also helped me regain moisture in my body. I've had dry

eyes for as long as I can remember, and in the past couple of years

developed vaginal dryness, the iodine has improved that

tremendously. I think Armour works as well as it does because it has

all the thryoid hormones in it. There's definitely a connection for

thyroid and libido. I would give the Thyroid S a try. I was able to

increase by 1/4 grain about every 10 days by taking the Armour

several times a day during the day without it having a bad effect on

adrenals. I started out with a 1/4 grain dose in the morning for

about a week, then added in another 1/4 grain in the afternoon, after

a week to 10 days added in a third dose and spaced those about 4

hours apart. Did that until I was taking five 1/4 grain doses a day

and then started increasing the morning dose to a higher one and kept

playing with it like that until I was able to take 1 whole grain in

the morning, which I like much better, gets me off to a much more

energetic start, and then I still take a lunch dose and an afternoon

dose. I had problems before with taking my dose all at one time in

the morning, and Val (might note here that Val knew immediately what

I needed to address and I was able to actually get up off the sofa

with her help!!) and the other gals on NTH helped me figure out how

to space it out. I know the Armour was a tremendous help with my

mood also. Check with Val and the others to see if you can't add in

the thyroid now with everything else. Or are you trying to see if

the iodine alone will kick your thyroid back into working order?

If you've been taking synthetic hormones it will take a little while

for those to get out of your body, so hang in there, things are on

the way up!! It does take time, but if it works for you like it did

me, before you know it, you'll be feeling much better! I look back

now and I can't believe how insidious thyroid and adrenal disease is

because you don't even realize that you're feeling that bad until it

just knocks you down and you can't get back up like you did all the

other times, at least that's how it felt for me. I started feeling a

lot better in about 6 weeks time and at the 3 month mark was feeling

pretty darn good!! Now if I can get back to my regular workout

schedule and wean off of Cortisol successfully, I'll be a happy camper.

Linn

> Linn,

>

> This is encouraging news!

>

> If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system

> correctly, I must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time

> begin iodine (if applicable according to loading test...and then

> not sure if I should use Lugol's or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms

> are minimized with these first two steps, I start taking Thyroid-S

> (couldn't find Armour) gradually increasing by 1/4 grain every two

> to three weeks.

>

> I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not

> overshooting the optimal hormone target ranges. This is the

> depressing part...the time it takes to get back to at least where I

> was.

>

> I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a

> thyroid dump. But I didn't notice any improvement with libido with

> the Cytomel. Perhaps because my adrenals were not being addressed.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , just wanted to say you're not alone. I was happy to read

your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same

circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's

wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back

of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido

back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so

he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the

worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole

situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI)

either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so

oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in

Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as

far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if

the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle.

My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the

dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she

hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her

on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit

we have to do something.

Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone

out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you

(and I for that matter!).

in NY

>

> > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust

for

> > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my

hysterectomy.

> > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun

together

> > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping

something

> > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger

than

> > me and I worry.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't even have the excuse of a hysterectomy! I don't know where mine

went. I do vaguely recall that I had quite a bit of libido while pregnant,

but after the pregnancy, WHAMOO, in the dumps. Is that progesterone that is

high while you're pregnant?

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical

invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.

-- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935

Re: adrenal crisis

>

>

>>

>>

>> Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words.

>>

>> I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving

>> lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy.

>> I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and

>> doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and

>> my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and

>> inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house

>> and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm

>> making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people

>> tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine

>> without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I

>> feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space

>> in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM?

>>

>> Amy

>>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>>> phonicity@... writes:

>>>

>>> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us,

>> trying to

>>> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are

>> NOT giving up!

>>> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ...you could not have said any better!

>>>

>>> Helen

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Linn,

Okay...so that's why I'm still having a " strong " heart beat in my chest...the

Cytomel being synthetic is probably taking longer to exit stage left. I was

wondering about that. More like worrying.

And it is interesting about the kelp vs. Iodoral...kind of like Isocort vs. HC.

The reason why I'm waiting is that my self-prescribed Thyroid-S and HC have not

arrived as yet. I lie in wait for the mail man every day.

Thanks again for explaining how you increased your dosages and in what order.

Honestly ladies...I read and read but I cannot retain or recall info worth a

hoot!

Linn wrote: ,

I'm probably not as up to par about how to systematically add in

everything as others on the group. This past summer I started with

kelp, then added Cortisol, then Armour after about 10 days of

Cortisol. Now I'm taking Iodoral instead of kelp, for about 2 months

I think. Was already taking bio-id progesterone at the same time.

This is the second time I've taken Armour, but this time I've had

great results. I do think all the other things come into play. For

instance without the iodine, between the Armour and the progesterone,

my breasts would be sore, added in the Iodoral, no breast problems.

The Iodoral also helped me regain moisture in my body. I've had dry

eyes for as long as I can remember, and in the past couple of years

developed vaginal dryness, the iodine has improved that

tremendously. I think Armour works as well as it does because it has

all the thryoid hormones in it. There's definitely a connection for

thyroid and libido. I would give the Thyroid S a try. I was able to

increase by 1/4 grain about every 10 days by taking the Armour

several times a day during the day without it having a bad effect on

adrenals. I started out with a 1/4 grain dose in the morning for

about a week, then added in another 1/4 grain in the afternoon, after

a week to 10 days added in a third dose and spaced those about 4

hours apart. Did that until I was taking five 1/4 grain doses a day

and then started increasing the morning dose to a higher one and kept

playing with it like that until I was able to take 1 whole grain in

the morning, which I like much better, gets me off to a much more

energetic start, and then I still take a lunch dose and an afternoon

dose. I had problems before with taking my dose all at one time in

the morning, and Val (might note here that Val knew immediately what

I needed to address and I was able to actually get up off the sofa

with her help!!) and the other gals on NTH helped me figure out how

to space it out. I know the Armour was a tremendous help with my

mood also. Check with Val and the others to see if you can't add in

the thyroid now with everything else. Or are you trying to see if

the iodine alone will kick your thyroid back into working order?

If you've been taking synthetic hormones it will take a little while

for those to get out of your body, so hang in there, things are on

the way up!! It does take time, but if it works for you like it did

me, before you know it, you'll be feeling much better! I look back

now and I can't believe how insidious thyroid and adrenal disease is

because you don't even realize that you're feeling that bad until it

just knocks you down and you can't get back up like you did all the

other times, at least that's how it felt for me. I started feeling a

lot better in about 6 weeks time and at the 3 month mark was feeling

pretty darn good!! Now if I can get back to my regular workout

schedule and wean off of Cortisol successfully, I'll be a happy camper.

Linn

> Linn,

>

> This is encouraging news!

>

> If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system

> correctly, I must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time

> begin iodine (if applicable according to loading test...and then

> not sure if I should use Lugol's or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms

> are minimized with these first two steps, I start taking Thyroid-S

> (couldn't find Armour) gradually increasing by 1/4 grain every two

> to three weeks.

>

> I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not

> overshooting the optimal hormone target ranges. This is the

> depressing part...the time it takes to get back to at least where I

> was.

>

> I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a

> thyroid dump. But I didn't notice any improvement with libido with

> the Cytomel. Perhaps because my adrenals were not being addressed.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

, you have a good plan set out. Stick too it! Don't get caught up in

raising doses too fast, etc. I started on Armour almost a year ago, and I

am soooo much better than I was a year ago! Certainly not 100%, as I'm

peeling away the layers of the onion and uncovering other stuff, but you

have a great plan put together.

Best,

http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com

http://www.CurlyRescue.com

~ The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical

invents the views. When he has worn them out the conservative adopts them.

-- Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935

Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido

> Linn,

>

> This is encouraging news!

>

> If I understand the process of revitalizing my endocrine system correctly,

> I must first treat adrenals (stage 5), at the same time begin iodine (if

> applicable according to loading test...and then not sure if I should use

> Lugol's or Iodoral). Then once my symptoms are minimized with these first

> two steps, I start taking Thyroid-S (couldn't find Armour) gradually

> increasing by 1/4 grain every two to three weeks.

>

> I plan on saliva testing every six months to make sure I'm not

> overshooting the optimal hormone target ranges. This is the depressing

> part...the time it takes to get back to at least where I was.

>

> I've been so low emotionally since stopping Cytomel due to a thyroid dump.

> But I didn't notice any improvement with libido with the Cytomel. Perhaps

> because my adrenals were not being addressed.

>

>

>

> Linn wrote: ,

>

> The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id

> hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone,

> doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic

> difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he

> would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think

> that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if

> you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to

> fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely

> affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a

> hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty

> soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most

> doctors are absolutely clueless about this.

>

> Linn

>

>

>

>> You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for

>> sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy.

>> My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together

>> and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something

>> I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than

>> me and I worry.

>>

>>

>>

>> .

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for sharing and no, that was not TMI. I have the same trouble and am

using Ostaderm by Bezwecken (I think) which helps.

I've found that if I put on music and have just a little sip of something

alcoholic to relax me...and it's night time when my cortisol elevates and I have

a bit of energy, LOL, then I can " seem " fairly into sex. It just doesn't happen

that often because this is such an effort. With my spirits so low, I am the

least exciting person I know!

I am not surprised that you are experiencing low DHEA with the symptom of low

libido. What I am discovering is that ALL of our hormones must be relatively in

sinc ration wise and that's damned hard to accomplish especially on our own!

I'm glad you have a doc willing to prescribe things like DHEA. I had a

discussion with my hubby about my lack of libido and told him how much it was

bothering me and that I knew it was bothering him and that I was sorry. He said

that it really helped him to know I missed him that way too.

andreah1166 wrote: Hi , just wanted to say you're

not alone. I was happy to read

your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same

circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's

wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back

of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido

back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so

he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the

worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole

situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI)

either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so

oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in

Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as

far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if

the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle.

My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the

dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she

hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her

on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit

we have to do something.

Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone

out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you

(and I for that matter!).

in NY

>

> > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust

for

> > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my

hysterectomy.

> > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun

together

> > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping

something

> > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger

than

> > me and I worry.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, your progesterone goes way up when you're pregnant. I'm sorry you're in

the same boat, but glad to have the company.

Ives wrote: I don't even have the excuse of a

hysterectomy! I don't know where mine

went. I do vaguely recall that I had quite a bit of libido while pregnant,

but after the pregnancy, WHAMOO, in the dumps. Is that progesterone that is

high while you're pregnant?

Best,

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Re: adrenal crisis

>

>

>>

>>

>> Helen and , thank you so much for your kind supportive words.

>>

>> I'm just exhausted. And my husband thinks I'm a complete raving

>> lunatic. That is what hurts the most. I know he thinks I'm crazy.

>> I'm not crazy, just sick. But when he's so unsupportive and

>> doeesn't understand it all, it just makes me feel like both he and

>> my daughter would be better off without me. I feel his contempt and

>> inpatience so strongly. He thinks I should be cleaning the house

>> and doing all this stuff I'm not physically able to. He thinks I'm

>> making all this up and doing strange things to my body that people

>> tell me to do on the internet. He knows I order my own medicine

>> without a script, and he doesn't think that's a good idea. When I

>> feel his contempt so strongly, then I think I'm just taking up space

>> in the world........taking other people's oxygen? KWIM?

>>

>> Amy

>>

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> In a message dated 11/4/2006 2:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>>> phonicity@... writes:

>>>

>>> But you're NOT giving up...simply by being here, writing to us,

>> trying to

>>> discover the right thing to do for your body SHOWS that you are

>> NOT giving up!

>>> Take pride in that! And keep fighting!!!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> ...you could not have said any better!

>>>

>>> Helen

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Linn:

How much armour are you taking?

-- Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido

,

The major libido enhancer for me has been Armour. I've taken bio-id

hormones with and without Armour, even additional testosterone,

doesn't do a darn thing for me without the Armour. It's a drastic

difference. My husband knows this also now and I don't think he

would ever consent to having me stop the thyroid pills!! I do think

that having a hyst would have a lot to do with it though. Even if

you didn't lose your ovaries, it's very common for the ovaires to

fail within 2-5 years after a hyst. Ovarian failure will absolutely

affect your endocrine system. Even without ovarian failure, with a

hyst, how would one ovulate? No ovulation, no progesterone, pretty

soon adrenal and thyroid problems. It's all related. I think most

doctors are absolutely clueless about this.

Linn

> You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust for

> sex? My libido literally went out the window after my hysterectomy.

> My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun together

> and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping something

> I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger than

> me and I worry.

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

I wonder why your doc only gave you DHEA? Estrogen, progesterone needs to

be replaced with the hyst. That jibberish about your ovaries working even

tho the uterus is gone, is incorrect. Generally due to enervation ffrom the

surgery, the connections die and the ovaries no longer function. Have you

had tests to assess your levels?

If the estrogen and progesterone do not work (bioidentical) then one can add

testosterone. I assure you, the testosterone will work in giving you back a

libido! The estrogen will immediately relieve the dryness too.

-- Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido

Hi , just wanted to say you're not alone. I was happy to read

your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same

circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's

wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back

of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido

back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so

he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the

worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole

situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI)

either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so

oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in

Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as

far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if

the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle.

My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the

dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she

hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her

on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit

we have to do something.

Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone

out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you

(and I for that matter!).

in NY

>

> > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust

for

> > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my

hysterectomy.

> > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun

together

> > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping

something

> > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger

than

> > me and I worry.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, there is NO reason that you cannot be tested

for your hormone levels, and of COURSE they can be

tested even after a hysterectomy. Your doctor sounds

very unknowledgable.

The lack of lubrication is probably a lack of

Estrogen, and the lack of libido is probably a lack of

all three, Estrogen, Progesterone, and especially

Testosterone. These levels are VERY easy to find out,

with a saliva test.

If you want to do it yourself, go to ZRT Labs or

Canary Club or Diagnos-Test and order the test kit.

You can also talk to Pete at Bellevue Pharmacy, whom I

HIGHLY recommend. He and his team there KNOW female

hormones both before and after hysterectomies and/or

menopause and also have a saliva test kit they can

send out to you.

They will give you a consultation, and then write up a

plan for you AND they will talk to your doctor as

well.

They prescribe bioidentical hormones and will ship to

you anywhere. Don't take synthetics. They are

extremely reasonable in their consultation fee, and

you get it back in full if you use them for your

prescriptions. I think it's 24.00 for the first 15

minutes and 2.00 a minute after that, and it usually

doesn't run much at all. They are GOOD, the best.

Email is Consultph@... (make it

" Attention Pete " and tell him that from Norfolk,

VA referred you if you like. I refer people to him all

the time. (and no, i dont get anything for it, he and

his team are just so good and nobody should be

suffering like you and so many other women are)

Website is: http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com

Consultation page is:

http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com/hormone/overview.asp

Order Saliva Test:

http://www.bpharmacysolutions.com/hormone/lab.asp

You no longer even have a cycle if you've had a

hysterectomy, and the only difference this should make

in testing is that you can take the test ANY time

rather than having to wait until Day 21 of your cycle

as you would if you were still intact. Of course your

levels can still be measured. You'll need to go off

the DHEA for a week prior though.

--- andreah1166 wrote:

> But the whole

> situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication

> (sorry if TMI)

> either, that whole section of my body is lifeless

> yet so

> oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a

> hysterectomy, in

> Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested

> my hormones and as

> far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they

> really don't know if

> the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I

> am in a cycle.

> My testosterone was almost non existent as well as

> my DHEA. So, the

> dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up

> mid-range and she

> hoped that would change my drive but it's done

> nothing. I told her

> on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis)

> that next visit

> we have to do something.

> Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to

> know there's someone

> out here that has almost the same situation! Best

> of luck to you

> (and I for that matter!).

> in NY

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,

Just ask, somebody here will help. Lots of people have been in the

same position before so they understand, especially about not being

able to remember everything. I wouldn't have gotten this far without

all the help.

Linn

> Linn,

>

> Okay...so that's why I'm still having a " strong " heart beat in my

> chest...the Cytomel being synthetic is probably taking longer to

> exit stage left. I was wondering about that. More like worrying.

>

> And it is interesting about the kelp vs. Iodoral...kind of like

> Isocort vs. HC.

>

> The reason why I'm waiting is that my self-prescribed Thyroid-S and

> HC have not arrived as yet. I lie in wait for the mail man every day.

>

> Thanks again for explaining how you increased your dosages and in

> what order. Honestly ladies...I read and read but I cannot retain

> or recall info worth a hoot!

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I was on 2 grains but have increased my Iodoral dose and noticed that

I was getting some hyper symptoms, so I backed my dose down to 1 1/2

to see how I feel. So far so good, but will give it another 2 weeks

to see if it's still okay.

Linn

> Linn:

>

> How much armour are you taking?

>

>

>

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

, it does feel good knowing we're not alone. I've talked to my

hubby too and he's amazingly understanding but I can't help but

wonder how long he'll be understanding, you know? I will look up

the Ostraderm and give it a whirl. I see a naturopath who is also a

certified nurse midwife (so she can prescribe) next Monday and I'm

hoping of talking her into testosterone. Still trying to figure out

if I want to tell my dr. that I'm going to see her. Think I'll try

the alcohol too, hey you never know!!!!! Thanks again and have a

great day! We'll get thru this somehow!!!!

in NY

> >

> > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust

> for

> > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my

> hysterectomy.

> > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun

> together

> > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping

> something

> > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger

> than

> > > me and I worry.

> > >

> > >

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much , I've printed out your post and will check out

their website, etc. I'm seeing a naturopath next Monday and she

assured me she will be testing everything under the sun so I will

see what happens then, she did also assure me that she will

prescribe whatever is needed hormone-wise. I think my reg. dr. is

being overly cautious and only doing one thing at a time, I

understand that but I'm the one suffering! I've had blood hormone

tests done...should I read my results as a woman in menopause even

if I have my ovaries?

>

>

> > But the whole

> > situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication

> > (sorry if TMI)

> > either, that whole section of my body is lifeless

> > yet so

> > oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a

> > hysterectomy, in

> > Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested

> > my hormones and as

> > far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they

> > really don't know if

> > the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I

> > am in a cycle.

> > My testosterone was almost non existent as well as

> > my DHEA. So, the

> > dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up

> > mid-range and she

> > hoped that would change my drive but it's done

> > nothing. I told her

> > on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis)

> > that next visit

> > we have to do something.

> > Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to

> > know there's someone

> > out here that has almost the same situation! Best

> > of luck to you

> > (and I for that matter!).

> > in NY

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks , I replied to in this thread saying I'm seeing a

naturopath next Monday who will be testing everything again and she

can prescribe (she's a midwife too) hormones, etc. I'm hoping

she'll be my salvation then I'll break down and tell my reg. dr or

switch and say the heck with her. Have to drive 2 1/2 hours to see

this naturopath. The dryness was starting even before my

hysterectomy but it wasn't totally non existent as it is now. I had

been on the pill since I was 17 (I'm 39) and for at least 10-15

years I was taking them all month and not taking a break for a

period as I had bad endometriosis. That had to have screwed me up

royally. The year before my hyst. I switched to the Mirena IUD and

was only getting small amounts of progesterone thru that, I have a

feeling that made matters even worse. At this point I can only hope

that the naturopath will sympathize and help me out. I had

everything tested in June but like I said in my post, my dr. said

she wasn't sure about the numbers because of my hyst. Gee, thanks

doc. My testosterone was .5 with the range being 0-80 (guessing,

don't have the paper in front of me for the range but I'm pretty

sure that was the number. I asked her right then about the

testosterone but she said to do the DHEA first. All of this makes

me wonder if it's more hormonal that thyroid for me. I'm taking

armour and have recently started isocort and things are much better

but there's still issues that are exactly the same. Isn't it awful

that we feel we have to scream at the dr. for help? Ugh.

in NY

> >

> > > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust

> for

> > > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my

> hysterectomy.

> > > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun

> together

> > > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping

> something

> > > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger

> than

> > > me and I worry.

> > >

> > >

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

After my hysterectomy, I was supplemented with testosterone and it didn't save

my libido. There's more going on here.

Also, your fat cells make estrogen after your ovaries are taken or die. The

ovaries aren't the only place estrogen is manufactured.

" C. Mannelli, Ed.D. " wrote: :

I wonder why your doc only gave you DHEA? Estrogen, progesterone needs to

be replaced with the hyst. That jibberish about your ovaries working even

tho the uterus is gone, is incorrect. Generally due to enervation ffrom the

surgery, the connections die and the ovaries no longer function. Have you

had tests to assess your levels?

If the estrogen and progesterone do not work (bioidentical) then one can add

testosterone. I assure you, the testosterone will work in giving you back a

libido! The estrogen will immediately relieve the dryness too.

-- Re: adrenal crisis-missing libido

Hi , just wanted to say you're not alone. I was happy to read

your post and know that there's someone else out there with the same

circumstances! I too have a husband younger than I and while it's

wonderful and he's wonderful I have these awful feelings in the back

of my head that our marriage will be kaput if I can't get my libido

back. I have absolutely nothing. I only am intimate with him so

he's happy, I have to force myself. Don't get me wrong, it's not the

worst thing I've ever forced myself to do, ha ha! But the whole

situation just sucks, I don't have any lubrication (sorry if TMI)

either, that whole section of my body is lifeless yet so

oversensitive he can't even touch me. I too had a hysterectomy, in

Feb of this year. I kept my ovaries. They tested my hormones and as

far as progesterone and estrogen I was told they really don't know if

the levels are good or not as I have no idea where I am in a cycle.

My testosterone was almost non existent as well as my DHEA. So, the

dr. started me on DHEA, it's just finally got up mid-range and she

hoped that would change my drive but it's done nothing. I told her

on my last visit (to find out I have diverticulitis) that next visit

we have to do something.

Ok, I'm babbling, sorry...but just wanted you to know there's someone

out here that has almost the same situation! Best of luck to you

(and I for that matter!).

in NY

>

> > You mean there's somebody else out there whose lost their lust

for

> > sex? My libido literally went out the window after my

hysterectomy.

> > My hubby misses me so much...we used to have a lot of fun

together

> > and I can only say that I WISH I missed this too. Hoping

something

> > I'm doing will bring it back cause he's several years younger

than

> > me and I worry.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>>Also, your fat cells make estrogen after your ovaries are taken or die. The

ovaries aren't the only place estrogen is manufactured<<

Adrenals also make the sex hormones.

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