Re: Stress dosing.

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Mo:

I was reducing my HC and started a new job. I am actually back up high on

my dose and this time not gaining weight. I am just going to have to accept

that I will need the HC longer than I had hoped.

I was fine until I started the job. Then I crashed very badly the first

week and toward the end of this week since I stress dosed, I was much better

Hope you feel better soon!

-- Re: Stress dosing.

In a message dated 27/10/2006 16:24:33 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

Are you stress dosing with HC for the virus?

Hi

Well I did this time last week, big-time and then I was well enough to go

out one night at the weekend as planned and also to have a friend over for a

meal on Sunday.

Then when I stopped stress-dosing I think it started up again.

I think Val may have sussed it because you see I am in the process of

reducing my h.c and have been under a lot of stress this past week or so so

maybe

it is this that is causing the symptoms becausew they come and and they go

which is kind of wierd, a virus is other there or it is not?

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 04:23:35 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

hen I stress dose I do it for the whole day, not just one dose. That

inside shakiness is what I get and then take the HC in a higher dose for

that day and it is gone by the next day. If not I stress dose the next day

too.

Are you feeling better?

Hiya

Just up and feeling very depressed. I am feeling like I cannot/don't want to

face another day of feeling how I have been feeling.

And the not knowing what is causing it is a major stress in itself.

I don't know what to do for the best.

No feeling shakey as yet but my eyes have just oepned a matter of minutes.

I have taken one grain or Armour instead of the usual two to see if that

makes any difference but that is SUCH a low dose, it seems crazy but I will try

anything to feel OK again.

The stress dosing yesterday did not help but two tranquilisers did late last

night. But I only ever like to use them for emergencies.

I will see how I go today.

Thanks for caring.

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 04:25:24 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

I was fine until I started the job. Then I crashed very badly the first

week and toward the end of this week since I stress dosed, I was much better

Hi again

Maybe there is something similar going on for me in that I have this current

family stress which is unlikely to resolve for abut three weeks or so. Maybe

this is my version of you having the new job?

The extra stress for both of us making coping on the lowered h.c dose very

challenging/impossible even?

What dose were you on from reducing and what did you go back up to ?

Thanks

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 11:44:44 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Mo I would increase your dose back to the full dose you used to take for

a few days and see if it helps. No amount of wanting off HC is worth

this. I am hearing the depression form hypo which is the thyroid not

getting into your cells again.

Morning, oops afternoon Val

Way back up to the full 30 mg?

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 12:58:22 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Where are you at now? At least a 5MG a dya increase but probaboyl you

will need to go higher than that as the stress dosing doesn't seem to be

working for you I am thinking you need overall higher amounts.

I was at 2 1/2, 5, 5, and 2 1/2 before the current crisis hit. Then i stress

dosed and went back to this a few days ago but then had to stress dose

again....

I took 2 1.2 this morning first thing and then when I got your post I added

another 2 1.2 mg, three hour time lapse so next doswe due in one hour strictly

speaking.

Should I be increasing every dose higher or just some of them Val?

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 13:47:14 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

i would think at least 5-5-5-5 or maybe increasing the AM dose to 10.

That one is most likely setting the stage for you to fall back into the

adrenal fatigue.

Thanks Val. so far today I have taken 5 mg in two doses and then 10 for my

second dose a few minutes ago. I will do 5 and 5 for the rest of the day and

then take your suggestion for tomorrow.

This really brings it home to me how immediately we are affected by stress.

Very educational! And therefore how important it is that we set healthy

boundaries in our relationships with others. It was the not doing of this that

led

me into this current crisis situation and it was only through feeling so

awful that I took I took matters seriously and set the needed boundaries. I

copuld have done it before having to have a crisis to teach me but that's life I

suppose and I am just grateful that I have learned the important lesson.

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 15:14:45 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Hi Val

Well don't feel too bad Mo, I am back on HC too!

I have been feeling a bit frustrated because I was doing so well on the

reduction but, like I said, lessons are being learned and surely that is what we

are on this planet to do?!

Not sure if the

Diabetes did it or just having to go to the dreaded DOCTORS again,

probably the latter,

Well Val there would have been the initial shock which would be enough to

seriously stress your adrenals and THEN the dopey doc on top of it all when you

really need good and sensible medical support. So double whammy I am

guessing. What chance did your adrenals have?

but I found myself sleep ing 4-6 hours when I got

hoime from work for 3-4 days then the next felt like I had the flu but

low temps.. A sure sign for me thta I had slipped right back into

adrenal fatigue.

Oh I see, so we have both been reacting to sudden, unexpected stress in

similar ways then.

My temp went UP and I wonder why? that is what made me think I had a virus

but there was no sign of any of the wet stuff that usually goes with a virus,

no streaming eyes, nose, no cough, only heavy sweating and sneezing in the

night. I just sussed that the sneezing in the ight would have been the hot

sweats cooling me down as I was throwing off the duvet all the time and then

getting chilled. Duh! Virus indeed. And then it would be there one day and gone

the next and then back the next.............

Then I got my blood labs compared to my saliva labs

less than a month between, and my Free T3 in blood labs was WAY over

range. So i am back on HC and guess what? Since I have been back on it

the last three days my sugar has come WAY down!

REALLY?!

I was 179 yesterday Am

which is still not good but WAY better than the 300's I had been seeing.

So much for the myth thta taking HC raises blood sugar!

Wow! That is really something Val.

So these recent cravings of mine could be because my blood sugar was

dropping also but mine would not have been anything like as high as yours -

hence

the cravings!

All is being revealed.

Mo

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Mo I would increase your dose back to the full dose you used to take for

a few days and see if it helps. No amount of wanting off HC is worth

this. I am hearing the depression form hypo which is the thyroid not

getting into your cells again.

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Where are you at now? At least a 5MG a dya increase but probaboyl you

will need to go higher than that as the stress dosing doesn't seem to be

working for you I am thinking you need overall higher amounts.

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 17:05:49 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

If the tranquilizers are helping then you DO have too much stress. I would

continue to stress dose on and off. I just have to accept I have to do that

too. I have had to use xanax on and off to deal with the lawsuit issues and

the stalking issues. The stress makes so much difference in how badly I

feel. Weather as well. Hope you can go lay out in the fresh air and get a

bit of sunshine on your skin today.

Hiya again

My current lot of stress is likely to last another couple of weeks before

resolution so what I will do ip back up to a higher daily dose I think - for

now.

Disappointing buy necessary.

Hey what's all this about a stalker? You OK? Obviously not.

Mo

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i would think at least 5-5-5-5 or maybe increasing the AM dose to 10.

That one is most likely setting the stage for you to fall back into the

adrenal fatigue.

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 18:02:22 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

How is that for stress?

Wow !

I am SO sorry to hear about your father, when they did he pass away?

Mo xx

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Well don't feel too bad Mo, I am back on HC too! Not sure if the

Diabetes did it or just having to go to the dreaded DOCTORS again,

probably the latter, but I found myself sleep ing 4-6 hours when I got

hoime from work for 3-4 days then the next felt like I had the flu but

low temps.. A sure sign for me thta I had slipped right back into

adrenal fatigue. Then I got my blood labs compared to my saliva labs

less than a month between, and my Free T3 in blood labs was WAY over

range. So i am back on HC and guess what? Since I have been back on it

the last three days my sugar has come WAY down! I was 179 yesterday Am

which is still not good but WAY better than the 300's I had been seeing.

So much for the myth thta taking HC raises blood sugar!

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Mo:

I was on 30 mgs a day and had weaned down to 10 mgs a day, and was

exercising, mowing the lawn, but not losing weight but feeling pretty good.

Now with the long hours at work and not enough sleep, tho I am OK at work, I

crash at 2 or 3:00 and am useless for the rest of the night. By Saturday I

feel horrible.

Now I am back up to 30 or more mgs. I might have to increase for the

weekend. Other stress was water getting inside my new car and ruining the

carpet. No time to get that fixed and will just have to live with the swamp

smell and mold. Bathroom gutted and no contractor willing to do the work or

contractors telling me why I should not have marble or glass tiles or why I

should allow them to turn my tub/shower into a shower only. That kind of

crap.

Other issues regarding my father's estate, fighting among people who THINK

they should be heirs, etc.

In addition to Lyme this stress is really the killer.

-- Re: Stress dosing.

In a message dated 28/10/2006 04:25:24 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

I was fine until I started the job. Then I crashed very badly the first

week and toward the end of this week since I stress dosed, I was much better

Hi again

Maybe there is something similar going on for me in that I have this current

family stress which is unlikely to resolve for abut three weeks or so. Maybe

this is my version of you having the new job?

The extra stress for both of us making coping on the lowered h.c dose very

challenging/impossible even?

What dose were you on from reducing and what did you go back up to ?

Thanks

Mo

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Mo:

If the tranquilizers are helping then you DO have too much stress. I would

continue to stress dose on and off. I just have to accept I have to do that

too. I have had to use xanax on and off to deal with the lawsuit issues and

the stalking issues. The stress makes so much difference in how badly I

feel. Weather as well. Hope you can go lay out in the fresh air and get a

bit of sunshine on your skin today.

-- Re: Stress dosing.

In a message dated 28/10/2006 04:23:35 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

hen I stress dose I do it for the whole day, not just one dose. That

inside shakiness is what I get and then take the HC in a higher dose for

that day and it is gone by the next day. If not I stress dose the next day

too.

Are you feeling better?

Hiya

Just up and feeling very depressed. I am feeling like I cannot/don't want to

face another day of feeling how I have been feeling.

And the not knowing what is causing it is a major stress in itself.

I don't know what to do for the best.

No feeling shakey as yet but my eyes have just oepned a matter of minutes.

I have taken one grain or Armour instead of the usual two to see if that

makes any difference but that is SUCH a low dose, it seems crazy but I will

try

anything to feel OK again.

The stress dosing yesterday did not help but two tranquilisers did late last

night. But I only ever like to use them for emergencies.

I will see how I go today.

Thanks for caring.

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 20:22:55 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

I was on 30 mgs a day and had weaned down to 10 mgs a day,

I was down to 15 mgs and ready to decrease furthr to 12 1/2 when the stress

hit. Tricky business.

How do we do this unless we wrap ourselves in cotton wool, so to speak?

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 21:29:39 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Well I WAS doing great till this Diabetes then that stupid doctor and ending

up in the ER with dehydration.

But that's the thing Val - we often have no control about what comes our

way, all we can have influence over is how we respond is what I am thinking and

that is the tricky one surely?

Mo

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My dad's ex girlfriend felt she could harass him the entire time he was ill

with cancer, steal his money and possessions, tell him to move out of HIS

house, and threaten me as well as her daughter and son-in-law threatening me

and curse me out. This woman pretended she and dad were married, tied the

estate up in court for 2 years, could not understand why dad removed her

name a beneficiary from one of his accounts, nevermind he had to move in

with me because she was making him more ill and screwing with his medication

taking away necessary meds making him very ill and she would not leave his

house. she blocked all my attempts at getting dad better treatment and the

doctors disliked her so much they avoid my dad and would only speak with me

towards the end.

Cops did nothing cause her son is a cop. This has gone on and one with me

paying legal fees, her not. She lost both cases but the ordeal was

ridiculous. I think the judge dragged out the case cause my lawyer was her

buddy and he got more legal fees each time judge granted a postponement. In

fact, my lawyer, whom I like, informed me that the statue of limitations for

another law suit was actually double what I KNOW it is, perhaps making me

retain him longer. Maybe he is just overly cautious but that does not

explain the judge repeatedly allowing this to go on indefinitely. I had a

different lawyer in the beginning who was bargaining with HER trying to get

me to give her half. Like I would bargain with a woman who alienated all of

my dad's family from him and toward the end she was so obnoxious no one

would even visit dad. When dad moved in with me he had non-stop visitors

who told him they could not stand being around this woman.

I KNOW he would have lived longer had she been out of the picture. I don't

think he would have gotten lung cancer had she not smoked int he house. He

had quit over 20 years ago. She also had birds in the house that transmit

lung infections thru the air.

Then I got my mercury fillings removed, supposedly safely but actually major

contaminated and had to do heavy duty IV and oral chelation. Had to quit my

job and go on medical leave, etc. Now starting new job and just sold dad's

house that this woman had tried to get for herself. She contested the will

as well. Now did we ward dad? Yes. And he also told me that since he got

cancer all she talked about was him changing the will. She tried to get a

lawyer to call dad in the hospital, she tried to get the deed put in her

name.

So now she is aparently mad enough to threaten me and she has a history of

hitting me in the hospital and punching my brother. Plus my brother and

sister are angry that they did not get as much money as me, nevermind I

spent my money on legal fees to defend what they did get so they would not

have to pay this woman if she won the case as being dad's widow receiving

the house and his cars. In the process I realized my boyfriend of 5 years

was a selfish, lazy person and got out of that relationship too!

Oh and get this, she wanted her daughter to inherit one of the cars and my

dad HATED this daughter and would not allow her in his house.

How is that for stress?

Sadnra

-- Re: Stress dosing.

In a message dated 28/10/2006 17:05:49 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

If the tranquilizers are helping then you DO have too much stress. I would

continue to stress dose on and off. I just have to accept I have to do that

too. I have had to use xanax on and off to deal with the lawsuit issues and

the stalking issues. The stress makes so much difference in how badly I

feel. Weather as well. Hope you can go lay out in the fresh air and get a

bit of sunshine on your skin today.

Hiya again

My current lot of stress is likely to last another couple of weeks before

resolution so what I will do ip back up to a higher daily dose I think - for

now.

Disappointing buy necessary.

Hey what's all this about a stalker? You OK? Obviously not.

Mo

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He passed away 2 years ago.

Oh and get this, my chelation treatment was paid for by my insurance co but

they are now avoiding the remaining payment so the doc billed me and offered

me a 50 % discount if I pay by Nov 4. Gee, my ins is supposed to pay and it

is their job to file the claims and CALL me if there is a problem. My ins

has a history if pretending they are not supposed to pay. I repeatedly

asked everytime I went in for chelation if my ins was paying and was told it

was. Now it has not and I am supposed to pay thousands?? I don't think so.

Boy do I need HC!

-- Re: Stress dosing.

In a message dated 28/10/2006 18:02:22 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

How is that for stress?

Wow !

I am SO sorry to hear about your father, when they did he pass away?

Mo xx

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 21:49:35 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Yes BUT I still believe that adrenal healing just takes TIME

and that is a concern for me - the time because it wil be two years that I

have been on next Spring and I hear the longer I leave it the harder it will be

come to the point of being impossible after two years or even before that

time.

Incidentally, even after going back up on my dose today to 20 mg I still

have palps, pulse 96 right now at bedtime, last dose of h.c hour and half

ago.......

Mo

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In a message dated 28/10/2006 22:28:24 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

Boy do I need HC!

or a big stick!

Mo

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So i am back on HC and guess what? Since I have been back on it

> the last three days my sugar has come WAY down! I was 179 yesterday Am

> which is still not good but WAY better than the 300's I had been

seeing.

> So much for the myth thta taking HC raises blood sugar!

Really?! That's amazing, Val! I was wondering about this very issue,

now that I FINALLY started HC today! (Hurray!!! But that saga is

another post!)

As I've mentioned here, I want OFF my metformin. I take mine for

blood sugar crashes, but since I've learned about the B12 absorption

issue...

Anyway, I was wondering if I should stay on it, to counter any

increase in glucose from the HC, and I don't want to tip the cart with

too many changes at once.

But I'm thinking that with the adrenals supported, sugar crashes

shouldn't be as big of an issue. They've also decreased dramatically

ever since I got up to 2.75 grains of N-throid.

Any thoughts on the matter?

Warmly,

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In a message dated 29/10/2006 00:00:04 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

Mo there is a fella on the Iodine list that just yuesterday weaned off

HC after 6 years on it... I do nto feel time is as important a factor as

some would have us think. he was on 20MG for 6 years!

Really? Do you know what the basis is for the thinking that 18 months/2

years is the limit, where it comes from?

Thanks Val.

Mo

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>>How do we do this unless we wrap ourselves in cotton wool, so to speak?<<

Well I WAS doing great till this Diabetes then that stupid doctor and ending up

in the ER with dehydration. I really think thatis what did me in again as I HATE

HATE HATE doctors and hospitals too... Then needed 2 LITERS of fluids IV to

bring me back to normal... But outside stressors are just as bad as these

internal ones I had. this is why I live miles from my family. Though it si

lonely at times, especially around the holidays, the rest of the year I am SO

glad I no longer communicate with them!

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Yes BUT I still believe that adrenal healing just takes TIME. Maybe had

all this happened say a year from now I might have been fine, btu my

adrenals have just had the stress of havign to take over for the meds I

was supplying and from all I have read I weaned off WAY fast for them to

be able to sdo this.. STRESS, then I just went back to back TWOvacations

before that right after weanign off HC.. STRES and asking for trouble...

So I feel certain that in a few months when my sugar is better

controlled I will be able to wean again, this time I will do it slower

and see if it sticks better! LOL BTW my sugar this afternoon when it is

usually worst was 179 still so the HC is at the very least not hurting

it and I think helping it come down.

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