Re: neck pain

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I never had neck pain with high blood pressure. And my BP is good right

now so it isn't from that now. Heck at the doctor's office it was 100/72

so that is really good for me!

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>>and have you ever heard of this as a symptom of hypertension plus the

frequent urination (anyone?) as I am really surprised by this as I have never

heard

of it before.<<

No I haven't heard of this and I would have to think it would depend on why your

BP was high to begin with. If it is high due to fluid retention, yup could cue

frequent urination, if it is high due to stress it might cause neck pain from

STRESS rather than the BP. Headaches are a common symptom of high BP.

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In a message dated 10/10/2006 21:42:46 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

No I haven't heard of this and I would have to think it would depend on why

your BP was high to begin with. If it is high due to fluid retention, yup

could cue frequent urination, if it is high due to stress it might cause neck

pain from STRESS rather than the BP. Headaches are a common symptom of high

BP.

Well I have a bit of fluid retention. The beck pain i have been putting down

to FM getting worse again rather than stress but it seemed indicate of

something when I woke in the middle of the night with severe neck pain and only

then took my BP and it was the highest it has ever been, and that is with me

not being particularly stressed.

i had forgotten my last dose of h.c so I thought, as I had a pulse of early

90, that this was the reason for the neck pain, the my thyroid levels had

dropped and then I came the link I posted which gave frequent urination and neck

pain as symptoms.

Will have to look into this some more......

Mo

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In a message dated 11/10/2006 11:23:52 GMT Daylight Time,

smann writes:

Does the neck pain coincide with any other symptoms? My Lyme started out as

a neck pain that almost seemed like a sore neck from exercising.

I had it as part of FM (well I made that assumption because it went, the

last pain of the FM to go about a month on h.c and Armour).

Then it came back couple of months ago when I was overmedicated with

hyper.hypo symptoms and I put this neck pain down to the hypo side of hyper if

you

see what I mean?

Then the other night I forgot to take my last dose of h.c (which I am

reducing right now) and lying in bed watching late night television, I became to

feel a bit peculiar. Still not remembering about the missed dose, I took my BP

which was very high and my pulse was low 90s. Penny still did not drop until

the next morning. O woke in the night with really bad neck pain, much worse

than I jave ever known it.

When I took my BP in the morning is was 200/99 and then 199/101 which was

seriously scary. I then thought, because by then I had realised I had missed my

last h.c dose of the night before, that this was low thyroid from missing the

h.c.

Thought I had a grip on understanding what had happened and then read that

neck pain can be a sympton of hypertension and then I began to wonder if it had

been hypertension that has been causing it all along and that is why the

pain got bad with my BP went through the roof night before last.

Got such a fright that I am now taking thge BP meds my doctor prescribed

ages ago!

Mo

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In a message dated 11/10/2006 12:42:36 GMT Daylight Time, macedgeca@...

writes:

MO, I have a LOT of neck pain but don't have high blood pressure, in

fact it's low.

I also have shoulder pain and TMJ, so that whole area is a really big

problem.

I'm desperate to find a solution. I started increasing thyroid a

little, will see if that helps.

Elyse

I am beginning to think the neck pain was not part of the FM at all now. I

think this because if the FM was coming back it would most likely come baclk

everywhere and just the neck.

I do have problems with a tight jaw sometimes, tension? and I kind of grind

my bottom front teeth against the top ones on one side. Is that TMJ? Are you

tense when it happens or does it just happen all the time for you Elyse?

thanks.

Mo

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In a message dated 11/10/2006 13:21:58 GMT Daylight Time,

lynnyvonne@... writes:

Fluid retention is major problem, though, as is frequent urination;

so maybe there is a connection there.

Hi

And even with fluid retention your BP is not gone higher? It usually does I

think.

I have been reading about inter-cranial pressure with hypertension but that

would not apply to you if yours is not low.

Those damn doctors and their anti-despressants. It took me two years to get

off Prozac!

Have you talked to your doctor or looked into it yourself, the reasons for

the fluid retention and frequent urination.

I found it pointed to insulin resistance and now, more recently, that is

also applies to hypertension. Have you had your blood sugar checked recently?

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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In a message dated 11/10/2006 14:03:05 GMT Daylight Time,

florida_native222@... writes:

Also, I forgot to mention that I developed a

stiff/sore neck too and I think that part is adrenal

related because I seem to get it when I’m low in

cortisol.

Oh I see . Well I am reducing my h.c but, for me anyway, this pain

came back before I started to do this.

Mo

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[Guest guest]

Does the neck pain coincide with any other symptoms? My Lyme started out as

a neck pain that almost seemed like a sore neck from exercising.

-- Re: neck pain

In a message dated 10/10/2006 21:42:46 GMT Daylight Time,

artisticgroomer@... writes:

No I haven't heard of this and I would have to think it would depend on why

your BP was high to begin with. If it is high due to fluid retention, yup

could cue frequent urination, if it is high due to stress it might cause

neck

pain from STRESS rather than the BP. Headaches are a common symptom of high

BP.

Well I have a bit of fluid retention. The beck pain i have been putting down

to FM getting worse again rather than stress but it seemed indicate of

something when I woke in the middle of the night with severe neck pain and

only

then took my BP and it was the highest it has ever been, and that is with me

not being particularly stressed.

i had forgotten my last dose of h.c so I thought, as I had a pulse of early

90, that this was the reason for the neck pain, the my thyroid levels had

dropped and then I came the link I posted which gave frequent urination and

neck

pain as symptoms.

Will have to look into this some more......

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/10/2006 15:44:48 GMT Daylight Time,

lynnyvonne@... writes:

terrible sweating.

This is insulin resistance also i believe. I have this. Sometimes I wonder

why I bother taking a shower because half an hour later I need another one. A

little better now summer has gone.

Pse keep us informed of what your doctor has to say on all of this.

I am determined to get to the bottom of the mystery!

Mo

NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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MO, I have a LOT of neck pain but don't have high blood pressure, in

fact it's low.

I also have shoulder pain and TMJ, so that whole area is a really big

problem.

I'm desperate to find a solution. I started increasing thyroid a

little, will see if that helps.

Elyse

>

>

> In a message dated 10/10/2006 20:50:50 GMT Daylight Time,

> artisticgroomer@... writes:

>

> I never had neck pain with high blood pressure. And my BP is good

> right

> now so it isn't from that now. Heck at the doctor's office it was

> 100/72

> so that is really good for me!

>

>

>

> and have you ever heard of this as a symptom of hypertension plus the

> frequent urination (anyone?) as I am really surprised by this as I

> have never heard

> of it before.

> I was thinking the frequent urination was IR (and that is not to

> say that it

> may not be, I started on a BP med today because it was scarily high

> and it

> remains to be seen if the neck pain goes and the frequent urination.

> BUT having said that, the neck pain only returned recently and I

> thought it

> was FM returning. Then it got really bad last night when the BP

> went through

> the roof. It was back to just being annoying today when my BP is

> down a bit.

> Hmmmmm.

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mo,

I'm struggling with neck pain. I've recently been trying to

eliminate anything that could possibly cause tension there. I found

out that my migraine medicine actually has a neck pain side effect!

This was causing a vicious cycle of neck pain and more migraines.

The beginning of my neck pain was 3 years ago when I took a drug

called Wellbutrin. It caused serious pain for me(my stupid doctor

prescribed it for depression, libido, and weight loss when he should

have tested my thyroid).

Until recently, I used large doses of caffeine to improve my ability

to focus, now I know that hurts me too.

I just tried splitting my Armour into 3 doses just in case that

might cause a stimulating effect on my neck, I'm not sure yet if

it's helping.

My blood pressure has always been pretty low, so I don't think

that's an issue with me.

Fluid retention is major problem, though, as is frequent urination;

so maybe there is a connection there.

Lynn S.

> Is there any possibility that your neck pain is related to BP as I

am now

> suspecting mine is?

> have you heard of this before, did you see the link I sent earlier?

> And also that frequent urination is a symptom of hypertension? Did

you know

> that?

>

> Mo

>

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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>

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>

[Guest guest]

“Neck Pain” - something I’ve dealt with for 20 years.

I think we both have a lot in common. I had a very

small car accident which caused a minor whiplash...so

they say and has created tremendous pain over the

years in the back of my neck. It is so hard to believe

that a little thrust of the neck could cause so much

pain. Perhaps I had adrenal fatigue at that time which

causes poor healing. Also, I've read that Lyme settles

in injured areas of the body. I went to a chinese

doctor for all my symptoms and he said that I had Lyme

and prescribed me chinese herbs that didn’t do

anything for me. I spend $1000 and was dedicated to

getting better. He said that many times, Lyme cannot

be detected in a blood test. I had this test and he

was right but who’s to say that I had it to begin

with. Never remember gettting a rash. I’ve had to see

chiropractors weekly just to manage the pain. The

adjustments never could hold and after reading the

symptoms of adrenal fatigue on Dr. Rinds site, I think

I finally found the answer. Poor connective tissue and

inability to hold adjustments are symptoms of weak

adrenals. I began on Icosort 2.5 weeks ago as my first

line of defense and it seems as though my neck pain

has decreased. It’s too soon to tell but what also

helped my neck pain was to see an ART® Practitioner.

They generally are chiropractors who use this

technique to remove scar tissue and entrapped nerves.

It really helped substantially, but it took 5 months.

There is a book about how Lyme can wreak havoc on

women's hormones.

--- " C. Mannelli, Ed.D. "

wrote:

> Does the neck pain coincide with any other symptoms?

> My Lyme started out as

> a neck pain that almost seemed like a sore neck from

> exercising.

>

> -- Re: neck pain

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>

>

> In a message dated 10/10/2006 21:42:46 GMT Daylight

> Time,

> artisticgroomer@... writes:

>

> No I haven't heard of this and I would have to think

> it would depend on why

> your BP was high to begin with. If it is high due to

> fluid retention, yup

> could cue frequent urination, if it is high due to

> stress it might cause

> neck

> pain from STRESS rather than the BP. Headaches are a

> common symptom of high

> BP.

>

> Well I have a bit of fluid retention. The beck pain

> i have been putting down

>

> to FM getting worse again rather than stress but it

> seemed indicate of

> something when I woke in the middle of the night

> with severe neck pain and

> only

> then took my BP and it was the highest it has ever

> been, and that is with me

>

> not being particularly stressed.

> i had forgotten my last dose of h.c so I thought, as

> I had a pulse of early

> 90, that this was the reason for the neck pain, the

> my thyroid levels had

> dropped and then I came the link I posted which gave

> frequent urination and

> neck

> pain as symptoms.

> Will have to look into this some more......

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

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Elyse, I have most of my pain in my neck, shoulders and upper back, and of

course TMJ. The only thing that helps is Bowen therapy. (and my Bowen

practitioner just had a baby and is out for 3 months....... no treatments forf

me until next year :-(

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---- macedgeca wrote:

> MO, I have a LOT of neck pain but don't have high blood pressure, in

> fact it's low.

> I also have shoulder pain and TMJ, so that whole area is a really big

> problem.

> I'm desperate to find a solution. I started increasing thyroid a

> little, will see if that helps.

>

> Elyse

>

>

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> >

> >

> > In a message dated 10/10/2006 20:50:50 GMT Daylight Time,

> > artisticgroomer@... writes:

> >

> > I never had neck pain with high blood pressure. And my BP is good

> > right

> > now so it isn't from that now. Heck at the doctor's office it was

> > 100/72

> > so that is really good for me!

> >

> >

> >

> > and have you ever heard of this as a symptom of hypertension plus the

> > frequent urination (anyone?) as I am really surprised by this as I

> > have never heard

> > of it before.

> > I was thinking the frequent urination was IR (and that is not to

> > say that it

> > may not be, I started on a BP med today because it was scarily high

> > and it

> > remains to be seen if the neck pain goes and the frequent urination.

> > BUT having said that, the neck pain only returned recently and I

> > thought it

> > was FM returning. Then it got really bad last night when the BP

> > went through

> > the roof. It was back to just being annoying today when my BP is

> > down a bit.

> > Hmmmmm.

> >

> > Mo

> >

> > NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Mo,

Actualy, my BP is definitely higher recently since starting Armour

and getting all this fluid retention. (This is one of my new

symptoms that I've acquired since starting Armour, I'm up to six

grains and still can't get enough). Anyway, my BP used to be real

low, and now it's more like low average. Also, my glucose was

normal.

I'm seeing my new doctor tomorrow so I'll ask about BP, fluid

retention, frequent urination, and neck pain.

Someone mentioned neck pain being and adrenal issue, and I'm leaning

toward that. I'm on 30 mg of HC, but still having other adrenal

symptoms like unstable temps and terrible sweating. (I can't get

dressed for an hour after a bath because it makes me sweat so much.

(Sorry that's gross!)

Lynn S.

>

>

> Hi

> And even with fluid retention your BP is not gone higher? It

usually does I

> think.

> I have been reading about inter-cranial pressure with hypertension

but that

> would not apply to you if yours is not low.

> Those damn doctors and their anti-despressants. It took me two

years to get

> off Prozac!

> Have you talked to your doctor or looked into it yourself, the

reasons for

> the fluid retention and frequent urination.

> I found it pointed to insulin resistance and now, more recently,

that is

> also applies to hypertension. Have you had your blood sugar

checked recently?

>

> Mo

>

> NOVA Counselling & Healing Services

>

>

>

>

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Elyse - could you be low in Vitamin D? I was having all-over joint

pain, but especially in the upper body - hips, back, shoulders,

neck. It was especially excruciating in my lower left back and

hips.

My back felt like someone was jabbing a short, hot knife in it. I

could not get in a car without my husband lifting my legs in. Hurt

too much to move them. My hips felt like someone was drilling right

into the joints.

I'm a runner so my sports medicine doc did xrays to make sure I

hadn't injured myself. Nope, nothing wrong. My NP ran blood tests

and found I was very low in Vit D. She prescribed 2000 mg/day. After

30 days, it dawned on me, wow, the pain was just - gone!

If you live in the north, it can be especially difficult to get

sufficient Vit D from sunshine. The sun is really only strong enough

during 3 months of summer. Couple that with working in an office

during the day and it gets even harder.

A little background:

Musculoskeletal Pain Symptoms Linked to Vitamin-D Deficiency, Again

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/538290

(of note in this one - several patients in the study were diagnosed

with possible " somatization " - definition " The process by which

psychologic distress is expressed as physical symptoms " . In other

words, doctors thought it was all in their heads. Sheesh.)

Lack of Vitamin D Linked to Pain

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/78/95751.htm

Vitamin D Deficiency May Have Role in Chronic Low Back Pain

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/331/7508/109-a

Dietary Supplement Fact Sheet: Vitamin D - Nat'l Institute of Health

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp

" Symptoms of bone pain and muscle weakness may indicate vitamin D

deficiency, but symptoms may be subtle and go undetected in the

initial stages "

>>I have a LOT of neck pain but don't have high blood pressure, in

>>fact it's low. I also have shoulder pain and TMJ, so that whole

>>area is a really big problem. I'm desperate to find a solution. I

>>started increasing thyroid a little, will see if that helps.