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Hi Sandy,

I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't eating a lot

of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I cannot

remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another one.

Regards,

Steve

slwcew2@... wrote:

> Hi list:

>

> I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

>

> Sandy

>

>

> Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

>

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>

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> http://www.liverdoctor.com/

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Sandy & Steve,

I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell too.

Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to a lot of

places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver malfunction

(or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your food, all kinds of

bad things happen, including this. My understanding is that the bile doesn't go

where it's supposed to, but does go where it shouldn't be (like in your blood,

skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow color in my eyes]). Is this mostly

correct, Steve? I've been trying to learn all I can about this since my

full-blown IBS hit a year and a half ago. For the past year, with knowledge of

symptom maintenance, I have only the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal

with.

I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be a

stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa (which

might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a good

gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help cure it,

or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and they seem to

help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more soon. Do you

think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light stools?

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Barwick

gallstones

Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Hi Sandy,

I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't eating a

lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I cannot

remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another one.

Regards,

Steve

slwcew2@... wrote:

> Hi list:

>

> I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

>

> Sandy

>

>

> Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

>

> Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

>

> Web Sites for more information:

> http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

>

> List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> Post message: gallstones

>

> Group page: gallstones

> Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstones

> You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

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Mark,

If you are asking me, I don't have a clue. I am pretty much new to this list,

and am just learning about gallbladder problems/gallstone attacks. I had the

yellow, putty-like stools many months ago, and the doctor gave me a prescription

antibiotic and it took care of it. Whether you have the same problem I had,

there is no way for me to tell. You should check with your doctor, or if

unsatisfied with him, get a second opinion from another. Some people use

colloidal silver for internal infections, but in my case the colloidal silver

did not work for this particular problem. It is possible the microorganism was

a silver-resistant one. Colloidal silver has worked very well for me, for other

infections. Another good internal natural antibiotic is Nutribiotics grapefruit

seed

extract. You can probably find it on the internet using a search engine. I did

not have a chance to try that before taking the antibiotics my doctor gave me,

but my wife has used it since then for internal infections (UTI as well as

candida yeast infections) and it has worked wonderfully. Again, it is

impossible to tell over the internet what specifically is causing your situation

with the yellow stools. But if the flushes are not helping it, I would consider

looking for another possible cause, including infection, if it were me. Also,

as Tom and others have posted to this group, the " water cure " is working wonders

for many people. In terms of gallbladder problems, if you are dehydrated you

may have overly thick bile. 80% to 90% of my gallbladder pains disappeared when

I

increased my water intake to fit my body weight. The theory is that it thins

out the bile, allowing it to flow more smoothly and do its work emulsifying fats

more effectively. You can read about the water cure and how it is helping

people overcome a myriad of problems at: http://www.watercure2.com/

Regards,

Steve B.

Mark wrote:

> Sandy & Steve,

>

> I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell too.

Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to a lot of

places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver malfunction

(or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your food, all kinds of

bad things happen, including this. My understanding is that the bile doesn't go

where it's supposed to, but does go where it shouldn't be (like in your blood,

skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow color in my eyes]). Is this mostly

correct, Steve? I've been trying to learn all I can about this since my

full-blown IBS hit a year and a half ago. For the past year, with knowledge of

symptom maintenance, I have only the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal

with.

>

> I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be a

stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa (which

might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a good

gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help cure it,

or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and they seem to

help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more soon. Do you

think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light stools?

>

> -Mark

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't eating a

lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I cannot

remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

> > List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> > Post message: gallstones

> >

> > Group page: gallstones

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Mark,

It might be a good idea for you to look into symptom of gluten sensitivity

or celiac disease as your light stools, etc. and IBS sound very much like

that might be your problem. It is very common.

All the Best,

Arline

>

>Sandy & Steve,

>

>I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell

>too. Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to

>a lot of places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver

>malfunction (or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your

>food, all kinds of bad things happen, including this. My understanding is

>that the bile doesn't go where it's supposed to, but does go where it

>shouldn't be (like in your blood, skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow

>color in my eyes]). Is this mostly correct, Steve? I've been trying to

>learn all I can about this since my full-blown IBS hit a year and a half

>ago. For the past year, with knowledge of symptom maintenance, I have only

>the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal with.

>

>I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be

>a stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

>necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa

>(which might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a

>good gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help

>cure it, or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and

>they seem to help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more

>soon. Do you think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light

>stools?

>

>-Mark

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't

>eating a lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach

>infection. I cannot remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

>one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

> > List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> > Post message: gallstones

> >

> > Group page: gallstones

> > Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstones

> > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

>Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold

>yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day !

> >

> >

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Steve,

Thanks for the suggestions. I will look into them. You don't remember the name

of the antibiotic, do you? I went to the doctor twice about a year ago, and he

just said go home, it's only ibs. He said if I wanted to pursue it, I could

bring in a stool sample. I never did. Sounds like I need to follow that advice

after all. Did your diagnosis come from a stool sample?

I am familiar with the water cure, though, and it doesn't help. In fact, I came

down with this disorder (1.5 yrs ago) after I started drinking large amounts of

daily water (7 yrs ago).

So, am I to understand that you regained healthy dark solid stools with only an

antibiotic prescription, and without doing any flushes?

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Barwick

gallstones

Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:26 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Mark,

If you are asking me, I don't have a clue. I am pretty much new to this list,

and am just learning about gallbladder problems/gallstone attacks. I had the

yellow, putty-like stools many months ago, and the doctor gave me a prescription

antibiotic and it took care of it. Whether you have the same problem I had,

there is no way for me to tell. You should check with your doctor, or if

unsatisfied with him, get a second opinion from another. Some people use

colloidal silver for internal infections, but in my case the colloidal silver

did not work for this particular problem. It is possible the microorganism was

a silver-resistant one. Colloidal silver has worked very well for me, for other

infections. Another good internal natural antibiotic is Nutribiotics grapefruit

seed

extract. You can probably find it on the internet using a search engine. I

did not have a chance to try that before taking the antibiotics my doctor gave

me, but my wife has used it since then for internal infections (UTI as well as

candida yeast infections) and it has worked wonderfully. Again, it is

impossible to tell over the internet what specifically is causing your situation

with the yellow stools. But if the flushes are not helping it, I would consider

looking for another possible cause, including infection, if it were me. Also,

as Tom and others have posted to this group, the " water cure " is working wonders

for many people. In terms of gallbladder problems, if you are dehydrated you

may have overly thick bile. 80% to 90% of my gallbladder pains disappeared when

I

increased my water intake to fit my body weight. The theory is that it thins

out the bile, allowing it to flow more smoothly and do its work emulsifying fats

more effectively. You can read about the water cure and how it is helping

people overcome a myriad of problems at: http://www.watercure2.com/

Regards,

Steve B.

Mark wrote:

> Sandy & Steve,

>

> I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell too.

Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to a lot of

places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver malfunction

(or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your food, all kinds of

bad things happen, including this. My understanding is that the bile doesn't go

where it's supposed to, but does go where it shouldn't be (like in your blood,

skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow color in my eyes]). Is this mostly

correct, Steve? I've been trying to learn all I can about this since my

full-blown IBS hit a year and a half ago. For the past year, with knowledge of

symptom maintenance, I have only the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal

with.

>

> I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be a

stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa (which

might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a good

gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help cure it,

or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and they seem to

help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more soon. Do you

think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light stools?

>

> -Mark

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't eating

a lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I cannot

remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

> > List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> > Post message: gallstones

> >

> > Group page: gallstones

> > Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstones

> > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

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Hi Arlene,

When I first read of Mark's symptoms I immediately thought of Celiac Disease as

I am biopsy diagnosed as having it myself. Mark, if I can be of any help,

please write me at moondancer@...

-------Original Message-------

From: grandy grandy

Date: Friday, August 31, 2001 06:34:38 PM

gallstones

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Mark,

It might be a good idea for you to look into symptom of gluten sensitivity

or celiac disease as your light stools, etc. and IBS sound very much like

that might be your problem. It is very common.

All the Best,

Arline

>

>Sandy & Steve,

>

>I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell

>too. Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to

>a lot of places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver

>malfunction (or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your

>food, all kinds of bad things happen, including this. My understanding is

>that the bile doesn't go where it's supposed to, but does go where it

>shouldn't be (like in your blood, skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow

>color in my eyes]). Is this mostly correct, Steve? I've been trying to

>learn all I can about this since my full-blown IBS hit a year and a half

>ago. For the past year, with knowledge of symptom maintenance, I have only

>the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal with.

>

>I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be

>a stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

>necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa

>(which might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a

>good gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help

>cure it, or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and

>they seem to help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more

>soon. Do you think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light

>stools?

>

>-Mark

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't

>eating a lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach

>infection. I cannot remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

>one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

> > List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> > Post message: gallstones

> >

> > Group page: gallstones

> > Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstones

> > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

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> >

> >

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Arline,

I checked into Celiac's symptoms years ago and it seems like some were very

different from mine. Although, it was many years ago, so I will go refresh my

memory.

Thanks for the suggestion.

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: grandy grandy

gallstones

Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:33 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Mark,

It might be a good idea for you to look into symptom of gluten sensitivity

or celiac disease as your light stools, etc. and IBS sound very much like

that might be your problem. It is very common.

All the Best,

Arline

>

>Sandy & Steve,

>

>I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell

>too. Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to

>a lot of places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver

>malfunction (or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your

>food, all kinds of bad things happen, including this. My understanding is

>that the bile doesn't go where it's supposed to, but does go where it

>shouldn't be (like in your blood, skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow

>color in my eyes]). Is this mostly correct, Steve? I've been trying to

>learn all I can about this since my full-blown IBS hit a year and a half

>ago. For the past year, with knowledge of symptom maintenance, I have only

>the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal with.

>

>I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be

>a stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

>necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa

>(which might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a

>good gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help

>cure it, or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and

>they seem to help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more

>soon. Do you think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light

>stools?

>

>-Mark

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't

>eating a lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach

>infection. I cannot remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

>one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

> > List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> > Post message: gallstones

> >

> > Group page: gallstones

> > Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstones

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here's a list of Celiac's symptoms that I don't have:

1.) I generally have no abdominal pain;

2.) No anemia (at least I don't think I do - never had before);

3.) No skin rashes on buttocks, elbows, knees;

4.) There are plenty of non-gluten foods that I don't tolerate;

5.) My stools do not float;

6.) I do not bruise easily (don't bruise at all).

Plus, no Celiac symptom-sets, that I've come across, include heartburn.

I understand that all symptoms don't always present, so I am going to consider

this when/if I go in for a massive check-up. I'm compiling a file of all

possible blood/medical tests that might find something, and present it to the

doctor.

Thanks,

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: moondancer

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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 8:10 AM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Hi Arlene,

When I first read of Mark's symptoms I immediately thought of Celiac Disease

as I am biopsy diagnosed as having it myself. Mark, if I can be of any help,

please write me at moondancer@...

-------Original Message-------

From: grandy grandy

Date: Friday, August 31, 2001 06:34:38 PM

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Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Mark,

It might be a good idea for you to look into symptom of gluten sensitivity

or celiac disease as your light stools, etc. and IBS sound very much like

that might be your problem. It is very common.

All the Best,

Arline

>

>Sandy & Steve,

>

>I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell

>too. Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to

>a lot of places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver

>malfunction (or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your

>food, all kinds of bad things happen, including this. My understanding is

>that the bile doesn't go where it's supposed to, but does go where it

>shouldn't be (like in your blood, skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow

>color in my eyes]). Is this mostly correct, Steve? I've been trying to

>learn all I can about this since my full-blown IBS hit a year and a half

>ago. For the past year, with knowledge of symptom maintenance, I have only

>the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal with.

>

>I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be

>a stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

>necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa

>(which might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a

>good gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help

>cure it, or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and

>they seem to help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more

>soon. Do you think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light

>stools?

>

>-Mark

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't

>eating a lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach

>infection. I cannot remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

>one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

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Mark,

Here are a couple of websites belonging to a gastroenterologist who has

spent many years studying gluten and other sensitivities that you may be

interested in. This disease is seldom discovered in this country. The tests

are inadequate and the knowledge of the doctors about is largely myth.

www.enterolab.com

www.finerhealth.com

The symptoms of Celiac are many and different. In fact one can have this

sensitivity and not have any symptoms at all but it is pretty important to

identify it if one has it.

All the Best,

Arline

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<< By that I mean that Yes or No to those items -- whether all

or some -- doesn't get you closer to knowing whether you are a celiac or

not. It shows that you are thinking and aware of your body. That part

is good. >>

***********************

Hello, Mark,

I have to study up on this disease when I get a chance.

Let me start off by saying that ANYONE who doesn't have dark-colored stools

can't use this.

When studying at Dr. Mercola's website about gallstones and his recipe for a

cleanse, I noticed that he gave his patient's, who still have gallbladders,

something called Beta-TCP. What this product is, is it's taurine and beets,

along with a couple of other things. Taurine and organic beets, I should

say. Anyway, what taurine and beets do is thin down the bile allowing it to

pass freely. Again, you must have normal colored stools to even use it.

So far, and I'm reporting my findings, I haven't had not one GB attack or

pain since my last cleanse. My last cleanse was over a month ago, and

shortly after that, I started using this product. You take it with your

meals.

Here's the thing: You can't buy it direct from the company that puts it out,

i.e., a place called Biotics. All healthcare practicioneers can sell it.

For example, if you go to a chiropractor, he can sell it. An M.D. could sell

it, but they're mostly narrow-minded about stuff like this. Dr. Mercola is a

D.O., i.e., an osteopathic doctor, but he's also a naturopathic doctor. So

he sells it to his patients. If you have a doctor that is not against

natural medicines, they'll probably sell it or get it for you. I buy it from

a chiropractor in Ca. He's the only person which I can find that sells it

over the internet.

For those who have no GB, they don't need this product. They need something

called Beta-Plus. It is a fat emulsefier (not sure of my spelling).

Another thing that I've done in the last two weeks is take Steve's advice and

do the water cure. I drink a lot more water than I did before, plus adding

that extra sea salt to my water. Between these two things, I've been feeling

wonderful! I don't mean to say that I'll never have another attack, but

right now these are really helping me a lot.

Hope this helps someone.

Susie

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Arline,

Thanks so much for the stool-test lead. I'll for sure be sending some off. I'm

still reading the site, so excuse me if my questions are answered there

somewhere.

Is it possible that a clogged gallbladder/liver (stones) is the cause of Celiac

Sprue? If so, therefore could flushing possibly cure it (as flushing/cleansing

is represented to be able to cure so many other disorders)?

Also, how does one ship a stool sample? I'm guessing they need to be

cold-shipped.

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: grandy grandy

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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Mark,

Here are a couple of websites belonging to a gastroenterologist who has

spent many years studying gluten and other sensitivities that you may be

interested in. This disease is seldom discovered in this country. The tests

are inadequate and the knowledge of the doctors about is largely myth.

www.enterolab.com

www.finerhealth.com

The symptoms of Celiac are many and different. In fact one can have this

sensitivity and not have any symptoms at all but it is pretty important to

identify it if one has it.

All the Best,

Arline

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You wrote, " So, am I to understand that you regained healthy dark solid stools

with only an antibiotic prescription, and without doing any flushes?

Mark,

Yes, that was the case with me, as all I had was a simple internal infection.

But that may not be the same thing you are dealing with. I do not remember what

the antibiotic was. Probably keflex, but sorry, it's been too long ago to

remember.

Regards,

Steve

Mark wrote:

> Steve,

>

> Thanks for the suggestions. I will look into them. You don't remember the name

of the antibiotic, do you? I went to the doctor twice about a year ago, and he

just said go home, it's only ibs. He said if I wanted to pursue it, I could

bring in a stool sample. I never did. Sounds like I need to follow that advice

after all. Did your diagnosis come from a stool sample?

>

> I am familiar with the water cure, though, and it doesn't help. In fact, I

came down with this disorder (1.5 yrs ago) after I started drinking large

amounts of daily water (7 yrs ago).

>

> So, am I to understand that you regained healthy dark solid stools with only

an antibiotic prescription, and without doing any flushes?

>

> -Mark

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:26 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

> Mark,

>

> If you are asking me, I don't have a clue. I am pretty much new to this

list, and am just learning about gallbladder problems/gallstone attacks. I had

the yellow, putty-like stools many months ago, and the doctor gave me a

prescription antibiotic and it took care of it. Whether you have the same

problem I had, there is no way for me to tell. You should check with your

doctor, or if unsatisfied with him, get a second opinion from another. Some

people use colloidal silver for internal infections, but in my case the

colloidal silver did not work for this particular problem. It is possible the

microorganism was a silver-resistant one. Colloidal silver has worked very well

for me, for other infections. Another good internal natural antibiotic is

Nutribiotics grapefruit seed

> extract. You can probably find it on the internet using a search engine. I

did not have a chance to try that before taking the antibiotics my doctor gave

me, but my wife has used it since then for internal infections (UTI as well as

candida yeast infections) and it has worked wonderfully. Again, it is

impossible to tell over the internet what specifically is causing your situation

with the yellow stools. But if the flushes are not helping it, I would consider

looking for another possible cause, including infection, if it were me. Also,

as Tom and others have posted to this group, the " water cure " is working wonders

for many people. In terms of gallbladder problems, if you are dehydrated you

may have overly thick bile. 80% to 90% of my gallbladder pains disappeared when

I

> increased my water intake to fit my body weight. The theory is that it

thins out the bile, allowing it to flow more smoothly and do its work

emulsifying fats more effectively. You can read about the water cure and how it

is helping people overcome a myriad of problems at: http://www.watercure2.com/

>

> Regards,

> Steve B.

>

> Mark wrote:

>

> > Sandy & Steve,

> >

> > I also have the light colored stools. Mine have a uniquely horrid smell

too. Having " putty-like " (color and texture) stools, at least according to a lot

of places on the internet, is a good sign of gallstones and/or liver malfunction

(or hepatitis). I guess when there's no bile to digest your food, all kinds of

bad things happen, including this. My understanding is that the bile doesn't go

where it's supposed to, but does go where it shouldn't be (like in your blood,

skin and eyes [although, I have no yellow color in my eyes]). Is this mostly

correct, Steve? I've been trying to learn all I can about this since my

full-blown IBS hit a year and a half ago. For the past year, with knowledge of

symptom maintenance, I have only the putty-like stools and frequent bm's to deal

with.

> >

> > I'm glad to hear that there could be another possibility, that it could be

a stomach infection. I have some questions about this. Would the infection

necessarily be a result of gallstones or liver weakness, or vise versa (which

might cause which)? Or could the infection exist all alone, with a good

gb/liver? Also, if it is a stomach infection, would doing flushes help cure it,

or would more measures be in order? I have done two so far, and they seem to

help, for a short while anyway. I plan to do at least one more soon. Do you

think just doing flushes will be sufficient to cure the light stools?

> >

> > -Mark

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Steve Barwick

> > gallstones

> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> > Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

> >

> > Hi Sandy,

> >

> > I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't

eating a lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I

cannot remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> > worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

one.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Steve

> >

> > slwcew2@... wrote:

> >

> > > Hi list:

> > >

> > > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> > >

> > > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> > >

> > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> > >

> > > Web Sites for more information:

> > > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> > >

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I am a celiac. I have read about the disease for over ten years. And I

know well several other celiacs. The partial list below is not a good

short list. By that I mean that Yes or No to those items -- whether all

or some -- doesn't get you closer to knowing whether you are a celiac or

not. It shows that you are thinking and aware of your body. That part

is good.

The remark " Celiac's symptoms " is misinformation. Though the statement

" all symptoms don't always present " is including the idea that the list

given is not complete, this is misleading to the idea that it is a good

short list in discussing that disease. It was this type of

misinformation from medical references that delayed my own discovery by

several years.

Celiac discussion is available at alt.support.celiac

best wishes,

Pat

Mark wrote:

> ,

>

> here's a list of Celiac's symptoms that I don't have:

> 1.) I generally have no abdominal pain;

> 2.) No anemia (at least I don't think I do - never had before);

> 3.) No skin rashes on buttocks, elbows, knees;

> 4.) There are plenty of non-gluten foods that I don't tolerate;

> 5.) My stools do not float;

> 6.) I do not bruise easily (don't bruise at all).

>

> Plus, no Celiac symptom-sets, that I've come across, include

> heartburn.

>

> I understand that all symptoms don't always present, so I am going to

> consider this when/if I go in for a massive check-up. I'm compiling a

> file of all possible blood/medical tests that might find something,

> and present it to the doctor.

>

> Thanks,

>

> -Mark

>

>

>

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I figured it might be something like that. It sounds like the liver might be

at the bottom of virtually all food/digestion problems. It makes sense. I

hope you're right. I just did my third flush yesterday and today. Boy did I

feel bad! Starting to feel better now, though. Thousands of chunks of gravel

and little stones came out. Way more than last time. I'm hoping for an

improvement in my condition soon. Even if I don't go to the doc or send stool

samples for a Celiac diagnosis, I should probably starting eating potatos

instead of grains/bread. >>

********************************************************

Hello,

I'm not Agnes, but there is also someone who can help, immensly. Her name is

Dr. Cabot, and she's wonderful! She's studied these problems for a

long, long time. BTW, she is an M.D., but also a naturopathic doctor and is

well-versed on liver-GB problems. Dr. Cabot has lots of years of research

backing her in diagnosing yours and my specific problems. Any GB problem, any

liver problem, etc., she's very well acquainted with it. And I don't know if

you knew Dale or not, but he, if he was around now, could verify her

specific treatments.

Her website is: www.liverdoctor.com

She's not a USA doc, but this person knows her stuff, by all means.

Hope this helps!

Susie

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>

>Is it possible that a clogged gallbladder/liver (stones) is the cause of

>Celiac Sprue?

Celiac is the primary and first disease. I don't know for certain and don't

think anybody does but I have read that it is believed by some that Celiac

disease causes an enzyme to dysfunction which prevents proper digestion of

fats (and other things).

If so, therefore could flushing possibly cure it (as flushing/cleansing is

represented to be able to cure so many other disorders)?

The only treatment and " cure " for Celiac is to stop eating gluten but if you

form stones you still need to deal with that added problem.

>

>Also, how does one ship a stool sample? I'm guessing they need to be

>cold-shipped.

They send you directions, a plastic container, a mailer envelope, and the

overnight express company will come to your door and pick it up on whatever

morning you specify. It is very efficient. The stool will need to be frozen

in the container they send.

>

Hope this helps to find out what your problems are. It really helped me.

Arline

>>

> Mark,

>

> Here are a couple of websites belonging to a gastroenterologist who has

> spent many years studying gluten and other sensitivities that you may be

> interested in. This disease is seldom discovered in this country. The

>tests

> are inadequate and the knowledge of the doctors about is largely myth.

>

> www.enterolab.com

>

> www.finerhealth.com

>

> The symptoms of Celiac are many and different. In fact one can have this

> sensitivity and not have any symptoms at all but it is pretty important

>to

> identify it if one has it.

>

> All the Best,

>

> Arline

>

>

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I would say Celiac is a syndrome/disorder, not really disease.

It is a product of disease or better call it disorder, not really a cause.

Wheat is one of the causes. Just one of many.

I think intahepatic stones are actually more a disorder, then disease.

Mark, just keep cleansing your liver.

All your symptoms are liver related. Even if it is not celiac.

More then 50% of people who consumed wheat bread all their life, older then

30, are more or less wheat intolerant.

Food intolerance, if acquired through life, is actually liver that

" acquired " too many stones.

So celiac (disorder) is a product of intahepatic stones (primary disorder).

Celiac is just another name for liver disease/disorder. Almost all food

sensitivities and allergies are liver related.

People who do over 16 flushes rarely have allergies.

Celiac is also caused by intahepatic stones. Just keep flushing! Repeted

flushing can often " flush " celiac.

More then 40% of people older then 30, who ate bread all their life have to

some degree celiac syndrome/disorder.

Celiac is curable and preventable syndrome for most adults.

Don't get scared by web sites and doctors.

BUT, It is always smart to decrease/minimize consumption of grains, the

main cause.

Cave-man didn't eat grains. People with blood type O are close genetic

relatives to cave-man.

More then 40% of people on this planet are still blood type O, almost all

Africans are blood type O, and over 40% of Caucasians.

Being genetic relative to cave man means grains (bad food) can harm your

health.

Agnes

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Agnes,

I figured it might be something like that. It sounds like the liver might be at

the bottom of virtually all food/digestion problems. It makes sense. I hope

you're right. I just did my third flush yesterday and today. Boy did I feel bad!

Starting to feel better now, though. Thousands of chunks of gravel and little

stones came out. Way more than last time. I'm hoping for an improvement in my

condition soon. Even if I don't go to the doc or send stool samples for a Celiac

diagnosis, I should probably starting eating potatos instead of grains/bread.

Do you think a possible stomach infection (see Steve above) could also be

eventually cured by flushing?

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: Agnes

gallstones

Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 7:55 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

I would say Celiac is a syndrome/disorder, not really disease.

It is a product of disease or better call it disorder, not really a cause.

Wheat is one of the causes. Just one of many.

I think intahepatic stones are actually more a disorder, then disease.

Mark, just keep cleansing your liver.

All your symptoms are liver related. Even if it is not celiac.

More then 50% of people who consumed wheat bread all their life, older then

30, are more or less wheat intolerant.

Food intolerance, if acquired through life, is actually liver that

" acquired " too many stones.

So celiac (disorder) is a product of intahepatic stones (primary disorder).

Celiac is just another name for liver disease/disorder. Almost all food

sensitivities and allergies are liver related.

People who do over 16 flushes rarely have allergies.

Celiac is also caused by intahepatic stones. Just keep flushing! Repeted

flushing can often " flush " celiac.

More then 40% of people older then 30, who ate bread all their life have to

some degree celiac syndrome/disorder.

Celiac is curable and preventable syndrome for most adults.

Don't get scared by web sites and doctors.

BUT, It is always smart to decrease/minimize consumption of grains, the

main cause.

Cave-man didn't eat grains. People with blood type O are close genetic

relatives to cave-man.

More then 40% of people on this planet are still blood type O, almost all

Africans are blood type O, and over 40% of Caucasians.

Being genetic relative to cave man means grains (bad food) can harm your

health.

Agnes

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Susie,

Thanks for the lead. I'm into all I can get. Although after first glance, she

doesn't appear to focus on olive-oil flushing; looks like she sells

herbal/nutrient prods. My problem is I'm kinda burnt out on pills; I've taken so

very many, and none have cured. Not saying I'm not taking anything now or not

researching anything new; I'm just more skeptical about pills than I used to be,

especially about curing the liver.

Have you both done flushes AND taken the Livatone? What's your experience(s)?

Let me reword my problem with " pills & herbs " . Recently I thought I'd try

Dandelion greens for my liver. I spent the next two days with an ibs flare-up.

That's the basic way things go anymore. You see, I can't digest what's supposed

to aid my digestion. The ones that help seem to help at first, but then their

effects fade. But I keep searching.

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: Tishri7@...

gallstones

Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:40 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

I figured it might be something like that. It sounds like the liver might be

at the bottom of virtually all food/digestion problems. It makes sense. I

hope you're right. I just did my third flush yesterday and today. Boy did I

feel bad! Starting to feel better now, though. Thousands of chunks of gravel

and little stones came out. Way more than last time. I'm hoping for an

improvement in my condition soon. Even if I don't go to the doc or send stool

samples for a Celiac diagnosis, I should probably starting eating potatos

instead of grains/bread. >>

********************************************************

Hello,

I'm not Agnes, but there is also someone who can help, immensly. Her name is

Dr. Cabot, and she's wonderful! She's studied these problems for a

long, long time. BTW, she is an M.D., but also a naturopathic doctor and is

well-versed on liver-GB problems. Dr. Cabot has lots of years of research

backing her in diagnosing yours and my specific problems. Any GB problem, any

liver problem, etc., she's very well acquainted with it. And I don't know if

you knew Dale or not, but he, if he was around now, could verify her

specific treatments.

Her website is: www.liverdoctor.com

She's not a USA doc, but this person knows her stuff, by all means.

Hope this helps!

Susie

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Agnes,

We can quibble about what we call it (disease or disorder) but if the body

forms antibodies as a result of eating grains, one would be well advised to

find out a little accurate information about it in order that their body

isn't destroyed in one way or another. Doing liver flushes may be beneficial

and necessary if one is forming stones, etc. but it isn't going to save the

life of somebody who has autoimmune reactions to grains. It doesn't have

anything to do with allergies.

Certainly we all have choices whether or not to look into information that

may help us.

Arline

>

>I would say Celiac is a syndrome/disorder, not really disease.

>

>It is a product of disease or better call it disorder, not really a cause.

>

>Wheat is one of the causes. Just one of many.

>

>I think intahepatic stones are actually more a disorder, then disease.

>

>Mark, just keep cleansing your liver.

>

>All your symptoms are liver related. Even if it is not celiac.

>

>More then 50% of people who consumed wheat bread all their life, older then

>30, are more or less wheat intolerant.

>

>Food intolerance, if acquired through life, is actually liver that

> " acquired " too many stones.

>So celiac (disorder) is a product of intahepatic stones (primary disorder).

>

>Celiac is just another name for liver disease/disorder. Almost all food

>sensitivities and allergies are liver related.

>People who do over 16 flushes rarely have allergies.

>

>Celiac is also caused by intahepatic stones. Just keep flushing! Repeted

>flushing can often " flush " celiac.

>More then 40% of people older then 30, who ate bread all their life have to

>some degree celiac syndrome/disorder.

>

>Celiac is curable and preventable syndrome for most adults.

>Don't get scared by web sites and doctors.

>

>

>BUT, It is always smart to decrease/minimize consumption of grains, the

>main cause.

>

>Cave-man didn't eat grains. People with blood type O are close genetic

>relatives to cave-man.

>

>More then 40% of people on this planet are still blood type O, almost all

>Africans are blood type O, and over 40% of Caucasians.

>Being genetic relative to cave man means grains (bad food) can harm your

>health.

>

>Agnes

>

>

>

>

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Steve,

Sorry to keep pestering you about this, but:

How long had you had the stomach infection? Can a person have one for years?

Have you remembered the name of the bug or the antibiotic yet?

Also:

It seems there may be a strange connection with dental infections (according to

others posts here) and digestion disorders. I just realized I had a cavity at

the time my disorder appeared. And I hadn't had a cavity for 20+ years previous.

Hmmm. Did you by any chance have anything similar?

-Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Barwick

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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Hi Sandy,

I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't eating a

lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I cannot

remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another one.

Regards,

Steve

slwcew2@... wrote:

> Hi list:

>

> I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

>

> Sandy

>

>

> Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

>

> Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

>

> Web Sites for more information:

> http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

>

> List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> Post message: gallstones

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> Group page: gallstones

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To all celiac experts:

If I am a celiac, how long after stopping eating gluten should I see an

improvement in my stool color? Min time? Max time?

Thanks, -Mark

----- Original Message -----

From: grandy grandy

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Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 6:02 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

>Is it possible that a clogged gallbladder/liver (stones) is the cause of

>Celiac Sprue?

Celiac is the primary and first disease. I don't know for certain and don't

think anybody does but I have read that it is believed by some that Celiac

disease causes an enzyme to dysfunction which prevents proper digestion of

fats (and other things).

If so, therefore could flushing possibly cure it (as flushing/cleansing is

represented to be able to cure so many other disorders)?

The only treatment and " cure " for Celiac is to stop eating gluten but if you

form stones you still need to deal with that added problem.

>

>Also, how does one ship a stool sample? I'm guessing they need to be

>cold-shipped.

They send you directions, a plastic container, a mailer envelope, and the

overnight express company will come to your door and pick it up on whatever

morning you specify. It is very efficient. The stool will need to be frozen

in the container they send.

>

Hope this helps to find out what your problems are. It really helped me.

Arline

>>

> Mark,

>

> Here are a couple of websites belonging to a gastroenterologist who has

> spent many years studying gluten and other sensitivities that you may be

> interested in. This disease is seldom discovered in this country. The

>tests

> are inadequate and the knowledge of the doctors about is largely myth.

>

> www.enterolab.com

>

> www.finerhealth.com

>

> The symptoms of Celiac are many and different. In fact one can have this

> sensitivity and not have any symptoms at all but it is pretty important

>to

> identify it if one has it.

>

> All the Best,

>

> Arline

>

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Mark,

My stools had been yellow for about a month. No cavities at the time, that I

know of. Sorry, do not remember the name of the antibiotic. The doctor did not

test me for a specific bug. He just said it sounds like an intestinal

infection, and prescribed an antibiotic. Doctors know which

antibiotics work best for infections in any part of your body, whether upper GI,

lower GI, upper respiratory, etc. Since he did not test for a specific bug, he

may have prescribed a broad spectrum antibiotic known for effectiveness in the

intestinal tract. I just don't remember.

Regards,

Steve B.

Mark wrote:

> Steve,

>

> Sorry to keep pestering you about this, but:

> How long had you had the stomach infection? Can a person have one for years?

Have you remembered the name of the bug or the antibiotic yet?

>

> Also:

> It seems there may be a strange connection with dental infections (according

to others posts here) and digestion disorders. I just realized I had a cavity at

the time my disorder appeared. And I hadn't had a cavity for 20+ years previous.

Hmmm. Did you by any chance have anything similar?

>

> -Mark

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't eating a

lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I cannot

remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

> > List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> > Post message: gallstones

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From: Steve Barwick

gallstones

Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 10:08 PM

Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

Mark,

My stools had been yellow for about a month. No cavities at the time, that I

know of. Sorry, do not remember the name of the antibiotic. The doctor did not

test me for a specific bug. He just said it sounds like an intestinal

infection, and prescribed an antibiotic. Doctors know which

antibiotics work best for infections in any part of your body, whether upper

GI, lower GI, upper respiratory, etc. Since he did not test for a specific bug,

he may have prescribed a broad spectrum antibiotic known for effectiveness in

the intestinal tract. I just don't remember.

Regards,

Steve B.

Mark wrote:

> Steve,

>

> Sorry to keep pestering you about this, but:

> How long had you had the stomach infection? Can a person have one for years?

Have you remembered the name of the bug or the antibiotic yet?

>

> Also:

> It seems there may be a strange connection with dental infections (according

to others posts here) and digestion disorders. I just realized I had a cavity at

the time my disorder appeared. And I hadn't had a cavity for 20+ years previous.

Hmmm. Did you by any chance have anything similar?

>

> -Mark

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Steve Barwick

> gallstones

> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:27 PM

> Subject: Re: Yellow/gold stool

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> I have had the yellow colored bm's. My GP told me that if I wasn't eating

a lot of yellow squash, they indicated a low-grade stomach infection. I cannot

remember which antibiotic he prescibed me, but it

> worked. You might want to check back with your doctor, or go to another

one.

>

> Regards,

> Steve

>

> slwcew2@... wrote:

>

> > Hi list:

> >

> > I have had problems off and on now for over two years before finding

> > out I had gallstones (lots of them). During this time I have had

> > stange bowl movements. They have been yellow to golden in color. My

> > urine has been real golden also, even though I drink lots of water. I

> > will have a normal BM followed by up to three or more BM's with each

> > one more " loose " than the next. I mentioned this to my doctor during

> > a physical and he didn't have any answer. I thought it might be bile,

> > but I hear that is more green. Has anyone on this list had yellor or

> > golden BM's? It seems to come and go.

> >

> > Sandy

> >

> >

> > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories:

> > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials

> >

> > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/

> >

> > Web Sites for more information:

> > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/

> > http://www.liverdoctor.com/

> > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/

> >

> > List Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe

> > Post message: gallstones

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> > Group page: gallstones

> > Group Archives: http:///messages/gallstones

> > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold

yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day !

> >

> >

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